Ken4Christ:


David spoke concerning Jesus prophetically and not about himself. Apostle Peter made this clear in the book of Acts;

Acts 2:25-31
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

You may want to ask, why did Jesus go to hell?
He went on account of our sins. He had to suffer the punishment you and I were supposed to suffer so you will not need to go there. That is why John the Baptist said, 'behold the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.

2nd Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Ken4Christ:


David spoke concerning Jesus prophetically and not about himself. Apostle Peter made this clear in the book of Acts;

Acts 2:25-31
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

You may want to ask, why did Jesus go to hell?
He went on account of our sins. He had to suffer the punishment you and I were supposed to suffer so you will not need to go there. That is why John the Baptist said, 'behold the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.

2nd Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

DappaD:


Just leave Jesus out of this and tell me what David is looking for in your outdated “hellfire”

solite3:

@bolded Do you mean that Jesus went to hell to suffer for sins? If that is what you meant you are wrong. Jesus suffering and sacrifice for sins ended on the cross when he said it was finished.

Jesus going to hell was because he was dead, hell was not a place for punishment for the righteous, people like Abraham,David and others where in hell before the coming of Christ.When Jesus left hell they followed him.

Ken4Christ:


It was a prophecy. David saw the suffering of Jesus ahead. And Apostle Peter confirmed it.

Ken4Christ:


You gross dishonesty amazes me. Unbelief is what will take you to hell. The words are so clear. The teaching of eternal damnation is taught throughout the Bible. It's up to you to believe it or face the consequences of those who disbelieve it and refuse God's plan of salvation for their souls.

Ken4Christ:


If Jesus didn't go to hell, how did he get the keys of hell and death from Satan?

Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

michjunior:
FOR ME...HELL FIRE EXIST BUT PUNISHMENT IN HELL IS NOT FOR ALL ETERNITY....PROBABLY FOR A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME...NOT FOR ALL ETERNITY....
#JUST MY BELIEVE

Maximus69:


There is nothing called Hellfire!

It's a result of misinterpretation!

DappaD:


You didn't notice when he said “FOR ME...”?
He agrees that it's not what the Bible teaches but that it's solely his own opinion.

Brachaa:


Now its you who's sounding off cos you clearly dont understand the makeup of man. Man is made up of body, soul and spirit. So when man dies, the spirit goes back to God while the body goes back to dust but the soul remains in a state of inactivity in the grave (hell) until the day of final judgment when they shall rise to be condemned to the lake of fire (permanent death). That is why the Bible says in Ezekiel 18: 20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Mr man go and study your bible very and try to be civil in your approach to issues/ people next time. Its too early to start using vain words.

Shalom.

Wolgrace:


The grave is a lying bed of the dead who're spiritually embalmed & prepared by angels for the resurrection of saint's bodies to immortal.

A sinner's soul goes straight to hell with a mighty negative downward pull or force when he dies, while the redeemed soul with a mighty positive heavenward force carried by charioteer angels.

SOUL IN HEAVEN OR HELL.

Maximus69:


Is the bolded in agreement with God's word?

Ecclesiastes 3;19-21

Wolgrace:


It was king Solomon's question to the doubters, debators, scoffers, mockers, unbelievers and workers of iniquities, and the answer through Jesus Christ is Luke 10:24, 1Peter 1:10-12, 1Corinthians 13:12, Hebrew 12:22-24.....

Without Christ, you can't comprehend the spirit but spirit can comprehend the matter because the mighty veil of mortality has blind the eyes of men from spiritual beings and things...

Maximus69:


So what exactly was Jesus' response?

Wolgrace:


That is exactly He inspired the writers to write for us to read. He is not dead after all, He is risen and led His apostles with His Spirit because they were His witnesses, just like many of us today.. So, you can read His responses with the quoted scriptures I dished out..

Maximus69:


So where is Adam presently?

Wolgrace:


Heaven, through the grace and resurrection of Jesus Christ who is one of His first fruits..

Brother, believe in Christ Jesus.. I'm a witness.

Maximus69:


So Adam is in heaven after putting all human race in trouble for thousands of years shey? Romans 5:12

Well i've heard your own version of TRINITY, but be rest assured that Jesus can't redeem Adam because they're both equal before God.
Jesus' death can only redeem imperfect descendants of Adam who are suffering from the consequences of Adamic sin.
As for Adam who heard God's voice directly but chose to disobey him, he is gone for good nothing can bring him back!
And mind you God never said Adam will be taken to heaven after he disobeyed him, Adam will return to dust so forever and ever Adam is gone!

Wolgrace:


Did Adam force you to commit evil too? He committed his own and seeked God's mercy, hence the introduction of sacrificial offering, prayer, commandments, etc.. But in the beginning, they were not so.

Adam and Eve having obtained God's mercy taught Cain and Abel the rules but Cain chose to be rebellious.

IT IS A PERSONAL DECISION TO BE SINFUL..

chimdi101:
Chai, after reading almost all comments here, my IQ don reduce

You don't know what you're saying!

Let's bring it home perhaps you'll grasp the error you're making in this.

Adam was alone as the first creature, he had the privilege of speaking mouth to mouth with God, he named all the creatures, it was one of his ribs God used to create a wife for him, there was no fear of hunger, sickness, death, crime, even all the animals including sea creatures and insects obey Adam, everything on this planet belongs to him. Yet he rebelled against his Creator.

Now compare to his descendants, who only read about God in books, who had so many religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines about the same God, there are agnostics saying everyone should live the way they like God doesn't care, there are atheists saying "there is no God", confusion is everywhere, then comes the fear of death, sickness, insecurity, natural disasters, joblessness, disappointments, betrayal, criticism, antagonism and threat from fellow humans, and deficiency in our body. All these is causing stress and distractions each day we wake up.

So Jesus died and Adam has been forgiven but his descendants that his blunder brought into the most terrifying situations will be thrown into a place of eternal torment, simply because they don't know which of all the religions saying different things to believe Shey?

Guy abeg use your brains, whoever gives Adam a ticket to heaven must equally give Osama bin laden a sit next to God's throne!

Ken4Christ:


Don't digress. I have proven to you that hell fire is real. And it is not the physical grave. The terms use in connection to it doesn't fit a physical grave.

The Bible talks about sorrows of hell.
It also talks about pains of Hell.
It also talks about the gates of hell.
Our Lord Jesus said he has the keys of hell.
Jesus also talks about damnation of hell -Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

The Bible always talks about souls being cast or thrown into hell. Do you throw people into graves? Dead bodies are gently lowered into graves but lost souls are cast into hell.

Besides, it is humans that bury people in graves but there is nowhere that humans throw people into hell in the Bible.

I could go on and on.

The Bible talks about the "cords of Sheol" not your man made sorrow of hellfire HOGWASH DUBIOUSLY inserted into 2Samuel22:6 !

WAYO man, @ Matthew 23:33, Jesus Christ used the word Gehenna not your fake hellfire.

I challenge you to bring PROOF of any living person perpetually tortured and tormented in Gehenna

KNOWMORE56:



Your problem is you hardly answer questions.

If we should replace "common grave" with HELL all places we see it in the Word,

you'll see that the organization had done you more harm than good.

Bros, the Bible truth sets you free and NEVER harms anyone.

I have to use the following screenshot to expose the FALSE claim you can not defend on this thread.
"There is no direct threat of retribution or punishment in Psalms 9:17 ",( Biblehub finish work here pouring Sand on your garri)
The screenshot of Psalms 9:17 dumps your FALSE claim into the Dustbin

KNOWMORE56:
I want to get something clear about hell,

1. There's hell, it's nothing more than the common grave;

2. God will use fire to punish unrepentant sinners, but the fire won't be everlasting;

3. There's not going to be any fire were human beings will be roasted, God says such thing has never enter His heart;

4. Fire is symbol of the end of the sinners;

5. hell fire is the place sinners are tormented after death till the day of Judgment when they will be judged and cast into the lake of fire.

Please, I need to KNOWMORE

Maximus69, Janosky, dappaD, and any other person who can help me should get in. Thanks.

Ken4Christ:


You don't have to bother whether Adam made it to heaven or not

Izabel:
Lol, you're just confused,God loves you though

chimdi101:
Na so, did he tell you to tell me that?

AkinwaleJJ:


If people don't have to bother about where Adam is presently then why did you bring up the case of Lazarus and the rich man? The Bible said i'm a direct descendant of Adam that's why i'm facing all the calamities Adam brought upon human race. He disobeyed God and never had anything to do with God afterwards, so if you don't know where he is presently i don't think you have any idea about where sinners are going because Adam is the first and foremost wicked man.
If the law says whoever disobey traffic rules will be prosecuted then the first president of Nigeria defaulted, there shouldn't be any reason why the law will not take it's course.
Whatever punishment the first man served must become the law, if he's freed then there shouldn't be any traffic rule binding citizens.
Preach that and see if reasonable individuals will not accept your Jesus. But when you promote injustice then you're mocking your own God!

Janosky:

The Bible talks about the "cords of Sheol" not your man made sorrow of hellfire HOGWASH DUBIOUSLY inserted into 2Samuel22:6 !

WAYO man, @ Matthew 23:33, Jesus Christ used the word Gehenna not your fake hellfire.

I challenge you to bring PROOF of any living person perpetually tortured and tormented in Gehenna