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Etrusen:
ok zik is a minority now? because the last I check ibos worship him

My summary?

You're just another northerner trying to sow seeds of discord between southern tribes and peoples so as to frustrate the obvious disintegration of Nigeria.

Open another thread to spread your lies, this one has failed.

Bkayyy:
A reasonable person doesn't argue with a thief over his property just like the mother and King Solomon

#large without worth


go learn history then come back and prove yourself in history

Before they started that Eze chime was one of their prince, then that one backfired when historians started to claim that if the prince has an Igbo name definitely the father must be an Igbo. The historians started entertaining the possibility of an Igbo ruling the area Bini is and maybe the area was part of Igboland, they hid and later resurfaced today with matriachy because onitsha port is in active.
If only this people know that Ndigbo don't give a fck about made up histories. We move by contemporary issues and above all we need expansion now based on the population density and as the rule of nature goes, the bigger swallows the tiny and Benin will surely be part of the larger igboland whether the inhabitants like it or not.
You can't fight that you can't control.

It's so funny how some people wish to perpetuate this Benin origin for a lot of communities in Anioma. I was watching a video of the Issele Ukwu people and how one grown up man was saying they're the first community found by a Benin Prince and he pointed towards a supposed burial site of the kings that ruled Issele Ukwu. I looked towards the burial site and behold, one of the names written there was 'Alumona'. I laughed because I could connect some dots. Nsukka peope should be familar with that name.
I discovered the fallacy of this Benin touted origin and the damage it has caused. I've now seen the problem... in the course of intra-ethnic superiority, elites of these communities sought to present themselves as being greater/more influential than the rest by claiming they have blood links with the Oba of Benin. This is why those names don't add up. One European explorer commented similar thing when he said that some of these communities claimed to be from Benin but today (as at the time he met them 19th century) they were all Igbo speaking. The Eshans who were the actual first brothers of the Bini people have Enogies and their names and language is similar to that of Benin but our 'poor' Anioma communities have no proofs to convince anyone.
Back to the topic, Bini has no links with Onitsha save for the migration that happened by Igbo people who initially resided closer to the capital of the Benin Empire fleeing deep into Igbo hinterland. The Igalas operated along the River Niger just like other Igbos did too. Saying it was just the Igalas that helped them cross the River Niger is far from the truth. That area was already a full Igbo territory with other Igbo fishermen. The Igalas came there for fishing and trading purposes too. One can't just say it was the Igalas as though the Igbos didn't know how to paddle canoes.
Conclusively, everyone should learn about the danger of falsifying history for selfish reasons. All these Anioma communities were Igbo communities hence they speak a variant of the Igbo language. Other ethnic groups settled among them just like some Igbos settled among their neighbouring communities. Let the elders learn to say the truth.

SLAP44:
My summary?

You're just another northerner trying to sow seeds of discord between southern tribes and peoples so as to frustrate the obvious disintegration of Nigeria.

Open another thread to spread your lies, this one has failed.

I have about four persons arguing with me but none could give prove to ezechime origin

#large without worth

SLAP44:
My summary?

You're just another northerner trying to sow seeds of discord between southern tribes and peoples so as to frustrate the obvious disintegration of Nigeria.

Open another thread to spread your lies, this one has failed.

I have about four persons arguing with me but none could give prove to ezechime origin

#large without worth

Bkayyy:
Before they started that Eze chime was one of their prince, then that one backfired when historians started to claim that if the prince has an Igbo name definitely the father must be an Igbo. The historians started entertaining the possibility of an Igbo ruling the area Bini is and maybe the area was part of Igboland, they hid and later resurfaced today with matriachy because onitsha port is in active.
If only this people know that Ndigbo don't give a fck about made up histories. We move by contemporary issues and above all we need expansion now based on the population density and as the rule of nature goes, the bigger swallows the tiny and Benin will surely be part of the larger igboland whether the inhabitants like it or not.
You can't fight that you can't control.

Muru akor! Anyi ka nor n'iru ogu.

Etrusen:
#large without worth


go learn history then come back and prove yourself in history

Yeah I don't know history but I know that the Oba is from Ife. Something you people purposely removed from your tales to suit your ego.
Please can you tell us why the new Oba must visit the Ogiamien family shrine before coronation?

Yujin:
Muru akor! Anyi ka nor n'iru ogu.

Uche mụ di ya, nwanne mmadụ

Etrusen:
I have about four persons arguing with me but none could give prove to ezechime origin

#large without worth


I have about four persons arguing with me but none could give prove to ezechime origin

#large without worth

Me: What is your name
You: my name is Abubaka belo
Me: then you must be an ijaw man
You:

Etrusen:
like I said I will not say anything again until you guys start giving your own prove of ezechime origin

Lemme help you Lil

Donarozzi:
The elders of Onicha-Ugbo, who are the bonafide descendants of the first son of Ezechime, said that their patriarch Ezechime came from Nri, one of the oldest Igbo communities. Historians have done a lot of research on this issue, and their findings showed that Chime (Ezechime) was an Igbo man. His name, the names of his followers, the names of his wife and children, the language and culture of his descendants, all evidence points to one direction: Igbo.

From all my research, Ezechime was a wealthy man who moved from Arochukwu to Nri-Awka area during the slave trade. Some of the Umuezechime clan, especially Onicha-Ugbo, said that Ezechime came from Nri-Awka axis, while the people of Nri-Awka axis said that Ezechime originally came from Arochukwu, settled in Nri-Akwa area (Northern Igbo), and founded many communties in both the Northern and Western areas of Igboland. (Note: "Ezechime" is sometimes spelled "Ezechima" in some Igbo dialects).

"Orofia is the second largest village in Abagana today in terms of population and land mass after Umudunu. As is the case with Umudunu, its founder was an immigrant called "Chime" ("Chima" in some dialects).

"According to further account of our sources, this Chime was a great warrior, adventurer, and statesman who came from "Ohafia" near Arochukwu in Abia State in search of slaves and merchandise. Some elders say that Chime rather came from Arochukwu but many of his followers were from Ohafia and environs. Our source had it that this man founded "Orofia" settlement in other towns like Nimo, Enugu-Ukwu, Eziowelle, Alor, Umudioka, Ogbunike, Ogidi, Ukpo, Oraukwu, and others in the course of his numerous adventures and expeditions, but finally settled in Abagana with his soldiers of fortune and founded "Orofia village Abagana". Chime later married from Akpu Abagana and eventually crossed the River Niger with his family and followers, and in the course of the adventure, he founded Onicha Ugbo, Onicha Olona, Issele Ukwu, Issele Azagba, Issele Mkpitime, Obior, Onicha Mmiri, which are all part of the Ezechima clan in Igboland."

Yujin:
It's so funny how some people wish to perpetuate this Benin origin for a lot of communities in Anioma. I was watching a video of the Issele Ukwu people and how one grown up man was saying they're the first community found by a Benin Prince and he pointed towards a supposed burial site of the kings that ruled Issele Ukwu. I looked towards the burial site and behold, one of the names written there was 'Alumona'. I laughed because I could connect some dots. Nsukka peope should be familar with that name.
I discovered the fallacy of this Benin touted origin and the damage it has caused. I've now seen the problem... in the course of intra-ethnic superiority, elites of these communities sought to present themselves as being greater/more influential than the rest by claiming they have blood links with the Oba of Benin. This is why those names don't add up. One European explorer commented similar thing when he said that some of these communities claimed to be from Benin but today (as at the time he met them 19th century) they were all Igbo speaking. The Eshans who were the actual first brothers of the Bini people have Emovies and their names and language is similar to that of Benin but our 'poor' Anioma communities have no proofs to convince anyone.
Back to the topic, Bini has no links with Onitsha save for the migration that happened by Igbo people who initially resided closer to the capital of the Benin Empire fleeing deep into Igbo hinterland. The Igalas operated along the River Niger just like other Igbos did too. Saying it was just the Igalas that helped them cross the River Niger is far from the truth. That area was already a full Igbo territory with other Igbo fishermen. The Igalas came there for fishing and trading purposes too. One can't just say it was the Igalas as though the Igbos didn't know how to paddle canoes.
Conclusively, everyone should learn about the danger of falsifying history for selfish reasons. All these Anioma communities were Igbo communities hence they speak a variant of the Igbo language. Other ethnic groups settled among them just like some Igbos settled among their neighbouring communities. Let the elders learn to say the truth.

Bini is actually the newest ethnic group in the southern Nigeria formed after the dissolution of Idu during the war with the Ife yorubas. So I don't understand how a new entity will still be claiming what they are not when we all know them.
They managed to concort moonlight tales and wrote some down due to the fact that they were one of the first people to meet and be subdued by the colonialists. Bini was actually capture in a day (less than 6 hours to be precise)

Yujin:
It's so funny how some people wish to perpetuate this Benin origin for a lot of communities in Anioma. I was watching a video of the Issele Ukwu people and how one grown up man was saying they're the first community found by a Benin Prince and he pointed towards a supposed burial site of the kings that ruled Issele Ukwu. I looked towards the burial site and behold, one of the names written there was 'Alumona'. I laughed because I could connect some dots. Nsukka peope should be familar with that name.
I discovered the fallacy of this Benin touted origin and the damage it has caused. I've now seen the problem... in the course of intra-ethnic superiority, elites of these communities sought to present themselves as being greater/more influential than the rest by claiming they have blood links with the Oba of Benin. This is why those names don't add up. One European explorer commented similar thing when he said that some of these communities claimed to be from Benin but today (as at the time he met them 19th century) they were all Igbo speaking. The Eshans who were the actual first brothers of the Bini people have Emovies and their names and language is similar to that of Benin but our 'poor' Anioma communities have no proofs to convince anyone.
Back to the topic, Bini has no links with Onitsha save for the migration that happened by Igbo people who initially resided closer to the capital of the Benin Empire fleeing deep into Igbo hinterland. The Igalas operated along the River Niger just like other Igbos did too. Saying it was just the Igalas that helped them cross the River Niger is far from the truth. That area was already a full Igbo territory with other Igbo fishermen. The Igalas came there for fishing and trading purposes too. One can't just say it was the Igalas as though the Igbos didn't know how to paddle canoes.
Conclusively, everyone should learn about the danger of falsifying history for selfish reasons. All these Anioma communities were Igbo communities hence they speak a variant of the Igbo language. Other ethnic groups settled among them just like some Igbos settled among their neighbouring communities. Let the elders learn to say the truth.

then is it a crime for the issele uku people telling you where their king came from?

2) the Eben sword used by the obi of Onitsha is not an igala product nor igbos.

then tell me how the obi came be using that sword when it's not in Igbo tradition

Etrusen:
I have nothing to say until you guys start giving prove

You will continue to remain in perpetual silent until your life journey comes to an end because you have nothing meaningful to say anymore, bro Igbos are above you, they founded you and their history predates your progenitor and ancestors.

Work with it

Bkayyy:
Uche mụ di ya, nwanne mmadụ

Jee gua ife I delu gbasara ndi Idu. O magburu onwe ya?

:A facie woman doesn't argue with a burglar over his land just like the grandmother and King Solomon #large without value go learn yorubas then come back and prove yourself in yorubas

EasternActivist:
Lemme help you Lil

You shouldn't have educated the revisionist, I like seeing them wallow in ignorance for a while till I shock them like I did to that oyo empire guy

Bkayyy:
Bini is actually the newest ethnic group in the southern Nigeria formed after the dissolution of Idu during the war with the Ife yorubas. So I don't understand how a new entity will still be claiming what they are not when we all know them.
They managed to concort moonlight tales and wrote some down due to the fact that they were one of the first people to meet and be subdued by the colonialists. Bini was actually capture in a day (less than 6 hours to be precise)

you Just like your ancestors have nothing to offer when talking about history my friend

#large without worth

Etrusen:
then is it a crime for the issele uku people telling you where their king came from?

2) the Eben sword used by the obi of Onitsha is not an igala product nor igbos.

then tell me how the obi came be using that sword when it's not in Igbo tradition

A Benin king with an Igbo name? Does it add up?
The Eben is rightly a Benin symbol of authority but we all know it can be copied and it indeed was copied.
One question for you... did Onitsha ever pay tribute to Benin?

No Nigerian ethnic group has old and rich verifiable history like Ndigbo. Others just make up things, like those that claim that they have empire that stretched to Sudan but in reality, the only war documented about them was when 20 women from dahormey sacked and beheaded their Oba

Etrusen:
you Just like your ancestors have nothing to offer when talking about history my friend

#large without worth

Please for academic purposes, who are the Ogiamien royal family in Bini?

Bkayyy:
You shouldn't have educated the revisionist, I like seeing them wallow in ignorance for a while till I shock them like I did to that oyo empire guy

Am enjoying the cruise

Yujin:
A Benin king with an Igbo name? Does it add up?
The Eben is rightly a Benin symbol of authority but we all know it can be copied and it indeed was copied.
One question for you... did Onitsha ever pay tribute to Benin?

Never, onitsha only did to the knig that crowned her obi which is Eze Nri in the presence of the obi of Nnewi

sarrki:
History of Onitsha

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By CHIKA ABANOBi (Last update 28/09/2017)

The history of Onitsha is said to have begun with the migration of its people from the Benin Empire towards the end of early part of the 16th century as a result of a wave of unrest, war and displacement unleashed by the Islamic movement from North Africa. One version said that it was during their passage through the outskirts of Ile-Ife that they acquired the name Onitsha, a corruption of Orisha Udo.

Another version has it that their migration to East of the Niger has to do with a misunderstanding that arose between the Onitsha family and Oba Esigie (1404-1550), following the slighting of their shrine, Udo, by the Oba. According to the legend, it was customary for newly installed Oba to pay homage to all important shrines in the Benin Kingdom by slaughtering a cow in the shrines enclave. But Oba Esigie is said to have refused to do this at the Onitsha people’s Udo-Shrine, hence the quarrel and the migration down towards the River Niger area and across it.

Ukpabi disagrees with the Oba Esigie angle and posits that the misunderstanding and migration was rather as a result of “a fight over a farmland. These other people fighting over farmland with the others and interest started coming. And because of interest, bitterness ensued and the two brothers decided to go their separate ways. One said, no, ‘I will now leave you, I’m going to Ado N’Idu.’ ‘Ado’ means border. ‘I will leave you and go and settle down on my own. I’m no longer going to be with you.’ That’s the issue. So, the two brothers had to separate.”

Onitsha, capital of Igbo Kingdom
The immigrant settlers from Benin were said to have been helped by the Igalas to cross the river to settle in Onitsha in the 16th century, which was originally called Ado N’Idu. It soon became the capital of an Igbo Kingdom. In 1857, British traders in palm oil established a permanent station in the city, and Christian missionaries soon followed, headed by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther (a Yoruba) and Reverend John Taylor (an Igbo).
In 1884, Onitsha became part of a British protectorate. The British colonial government and Christian missionaries penetrated most of Igboland to set up their administration, schools and churches through the river port at Onitsha.

Historically, Onitsha became an important trading port for the Royal Niger Company in the mid-1850s. Following the abolition of slavery, trade in palm kernels and other cash crops boomed around this river port. Immigrants from the hinterland were drawn to the emerging boom town as did the British traders who settled there and coordinated the palm oil and cash crops trade.

Colonial relics and post-colonial architectural wonders
Areas bordering Old Market, New Market Roads, Upper Market Road, Modebe Avenue, Iboku, Old Cemetry, Old Hospital, Mbanugo St, Emejulu St, Obi Street, Benjamin St, Court, Enugu Road, Awka Road, Egerton, etc are known as Whitemen Quarters, so-called because the white colonial masters who first settled in Onitsha, used to live here. And, even till today, the white colonial style of buildings such as you see at Yaba, Ebute Metta and Central Lagos, can be seen existing, side by side, with the new, on these streets.

But much more modern exotic architectural wonders exist in places like the G.R.A and “33” Housing Estates. Sunday Sun understands that SCityGate Real Estate Ltd, located on Mike Ilodibe Crescent and which specializes in building ultra-modern architectural structures, makes such building wonders happen for interested clients. In 1965, a bridge was built across the Niger River to replace the ferry crossing. Today, plans are said to be underway to build the Second Niger Bridge.
Onitsha is made up of three groups of people, Ukpabi reveals. The first is the Edos, the Ezechima’s team. The second, Igalas. They were the people that were fishing at the Niger by the time Onitsha people came to settle there. The third, the Igbos who are very close to the Niger and had integrated with them. These three groups make up what is today known as Onitsha.”

“Their tradition is blended with the three peoples, first the Edos, second the Igalas”, Ukpabi says. “In fact, in the past, there were some villages in Onitsha that spoke Igala. And they are made up of two villages. They are still in Onitsha. Onitsha is made up of nine villages. Two out of the nine are purely the Igalas: Ogbodu and Obigboru. So, that is how Onitsha people came to be.

“The ones with Edo influence are the monarchy itself. That’s the Eze Chima, that is the ruling villages. They are four in number. Umueze Aroli, Okebunabu (which include Umudei and Ogbabu) and Olosi. The present Obi of Onitsha, Igwe Achebe is the 21st Obi of Onitsha.”
Inter-marriages, says Ukpabi, have long existed between the Igalas and the Edos. “The people our ancestors met fishing at the bank of the River Niger were purely Igallas. They were following the Niger all the way from their place to Onitsha. So, they don’t normally come to the upper land. They remain there. They have their buildings in their canoes. So, we attracted them into coming to the hinterland. We started intermarrying with them. One of the outstanding monarchs of Onitsha, Obi Eze Aroli, the mother, Enubi, is from Igala.”



https://www.edoworld.net/History_of_Onitsha.html

You open. thread and now sneak back with this one Lipscomb to monitor your thread but well Bini need to be schooled.


Bini People herself are Yorubas and the earlier they accept the fact the better for them and for oba of Bini.

adadike:
don't mind then. Until the Oba of Benin speaks on this matter and tell us why secret emissaries were sent to igwe Nri before crowning a new king, any thing coming from an ordinary Benin man as history is thrash

The Oba of Benin's ancestry is actually from Ife

Mr Etrusen I'm still waiting for your answer about Ogiamien Royal family.
I want the world to hear it from your mouth.
I want them to see you Bini people for who you really are (Frauds)

Bkayyy:
No Nigerian ethnic group has old and rich verifiable history like Ndigbo. Others just make up things, like those that claim that they have empire that stretched to Sudan but in reality, the only war documented about them was when 20 women from dahormey sacked and beheaded their Oba

We've gone past that now.

EasternActivist:
You will continue to remain in perpetual silent until your life journey comes to an end because you have nothing meaningful to say anymore, bro Igbos are above you, they founded you and their history predates your progenitor and ancestors.

Work with it

ME: Ezechime is from Benin


IGBOS : no he is not


ME: why do you say so?


IGBOS: because he is from nri .


ME: but zik and other from Onitsha say they are from Benin


IGBOS: zik is not old enough to tell the history because we have someone older


ME : who is that and what did he say?


IGBOS: Pa Jude ikeotuonye akpakoba but we don't have what he said


ME: then give me ezechime source to prove he is not from Benin?


IGBOS : no he is not.


#large without worth


I repeat

Igbos offered nothing to ancient history of Nigeria in pre_colonial era and these fellow arguing have nothing to offer to history

Igbo were affected by history and they never made any history .

Etrusen:
ME: Ezechime is from Benin


IGBOS : no he is not


ME: why do you say so?


IGBOS: because he is from nri .


ME: but zik and other from Onitsha say they are from Benin


IGBOS: zik is not old enough to tell the history because we have someone older


ME : who is that and what did he say?


IGBOS: Pa Jude ikeotuonye akpakoba but we don't have what he said


ME: then give me ezechime source to prove he is not from Benin?


IGBOS : no he is not.


#large without worth


I repeat

Igbos offered nothing to ancient history of Nigeria in pre_colonial era and these fellow arguing have nothing to offer to history

Igbo were affected by history and they never made any history .

Please tell us who the Ogiamien royal family are

Etrusen:
the story of Nri is a cooked one to suit the likes of Igodomigodo and other African Empire of old.
Igbo were the laziest in ancient history who didn't affect history but history affected them.

Igbos have no history, all what they say now were all cooked and we know it

Etrusen:
when did he give his narrative?

Amai supposed to know when he did?

Yujin:
A Benin king with an Igbo name? Does it add up?
The Eben is rightly a Benin symbol of authority but we all know it can be copied and it indeed was copied.
One question for you... did Onitsha ever pay tribute to Benin?

it clearly show you don't know what is culture.

it mean for a king to copy another man culture without having connection he is not a right custodian


don't you think ?

Bkayyy:
Never, onitsha only did to the knig that crowned her obi which is Eze Nri in the presence of the obi of Nnewi

I know. I just asked him to see his response. Some things are very clear but humans especially from this part of the world will prefer to lie about it.
As at the 19th century, only two powers were recognised on the River Niger- Eze Obi Ossai of Aboh and the Attah of Igala. Missionaries first settled at Aboh before changing their choice location to Onitsha because of certain factors among them; the frequency of overflooding in Aboh and Onitsha being a spot with direct access to the larger portion of Igboland. The Obi of Onitsha was not grand owing to the infancy of the town. It was not formed by conquest. So you see that Benin had 0 presence on that part of River Niger. Note that Asaba is equally around the location and they have no record of any Benin lordship or relationship.
The case of these Anioma communities that claim Benin(Prince or warrior) origin are age old fallacies that have gradually appeared as a true story.