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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by ePoster: 6:51pm On Oct 12, 2020
Gamesmart:


How is it not an aspect of marriage?
Nope. When you get married, do you have that in your mind?
When I use the word, I mean cheating isn't a principle or foundation of and on which a marriage is built.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by BRATISLAVA: 7:10pm On Oct 12, 2020
ReluctantAdult:

How then do you explain the usual scenario of a male animal mating with many females? Very few species are monogamous. In fact 8 out of 10 species of mammals are polygamous and that's as a result of the steep difference in the testosterone levels between these genders.

Testosterone drives libido. A highly libidinous male isn't compatible with a female with low libido. Therefore he cools off with many different females to balance off the scales. It is what it is. You can't dispute nature.
Interesting.

We didn't know men are wild animals like lions/baboons, and should be in the wild, where brains aren't needed and only baser instincts function, until we read this.

No wonder lions/baboons don't need to go to school or drive cars or wear clothes; it's this testosterone thing that is only good for mating with many females that causes it. No threats in the wild at all. They just do it for pleasure.

In fact, male lions/baboons have been known to formalize marriages nowadays. But they wear human skin to do it. Testosterone, the power to have sex all the time without reason or excuse. Must be great to be a lion/baboon or other wild animal.

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Bjornson01(m): 7:18pm On Oct 12, 2020
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Liposure: 7:19pm On Oct 12, 2020
CHoccolaTE:
98% Men are just irrationally selfish and inconsiderate evil demons.

their self centered, one sided reasoning on this thread has proven it once again. why get married when you don't have any desire to stay faithful and you expect your wife to just tolerate your infidelity and keep treating STDs?

later somebody wlll come and ask me why do I hate men.
wrong. We are only human.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Bjornson01(m): 7:21pm On Oct 12, 2020
baralatie:

there is no relationship between testosterone levels and promiscuity in the animal kingdom.the testosterone levels in the blood stream is to fight or flight.that is why the big cats can fight but yet the females with less testosterone are the more successful hunters because of the instinct to keep the pride alive.







Testosterone has nothing to do with flight or a fight situation, adrenaline does.

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by xhoul: 7:24pm On Oct 12, 2020
thesicilian:
Why do you people keep emphasizing this matrimonial bed issue as if the ones they do outside is better? Cheating is cheating no matter where it is done and I condemn it in all ramifications.

Cheating on your matrimonial bed is the worst form of disrespect to ur spouse, i think. I av seen many married people cheating but they Neva do that in their homes, what dah hell happened to hotel rooms?

M not promoting cheating but if one wants to commit a crime, shouldn't he go a long way to ensure he is never caught, or at least sound more sane when caught
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:26pm On Oct 12, 2020
I get you

There is this sacredness tied to a matrimonial bed that makes it hit different.

xhoul:


Cheating on your matrimonial bed is the worst form of disrespect to ur spouse, i think. I av seen many married people cheating but they Neva do that in their homes, what dah hell happened to hotel rooms?

M not promoting cheating but if one wants to commit a crime, shouldn't he go a long way to ensure he is never caught, or at least sound more sane when caught

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:28pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
We are not like the animals, we have laws and social constructs.

This is why we cannot shift cheating to testosterone grin because cheating itself is a human concept and binds our relationships.

Other male mammals can have several mates, because they are not governed by so much.


Well laws and social constructs made by humans can be stupid.

Especially when they are aimed at suppressing natural urges.

So deferring to "our laws and social construct" is not a strong enough argument.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:30pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
By the way, adrenaline does more for 'fight or flight' responses not testosterone!


What I know and I am highlighting is that testosterone makes men very different from women.

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:30pm On Oct 12, 2020
What of the laws that are not stupid

Especially the kind that punishes crime, see why you have to stay open minded smiley

If i get you, not cheating is a way of suppressing natural urges - going by what i am reading here.

Gamesmart:


Well laws and social constructs made by humans can be stupid.

Especially when they are aimed at suppressing natural urges.

So deferring to "our laws and social construct" is not a strong enough argument.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:32pm On Oct 12, 2020
This is obvious, still doesn't cover up cheating!

Gamesmart:


What I know and I am highlighting is that testosterone makes men very different from women.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Olababee(f): 7:32pm On Oct 12, 2020
ReluctantAdult:
The reason I don't support monogamy or marriage in general. It's not a man's nature to stay with one woman.


So it's a woman's nature to stay with one man ? Just saying.. men need to learn how to have self control

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:34pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
Well, they have not attained relationship maturity.

Simple!

If a married man or woman cheats, it means they just could not be committed enough!

No mincing of words, it's just hard truth.

That is nonsense, mate.

Trying to be in relationship in a manner that suppresses you naturality and will highly never make you happy in your lifetime does not make you "mature", it makes you "delusional" (if a kind word is to be used) or "stupid" (if one is to be blunt and truthful).

All these "maturity" are just nonsense church pastor words.

A mature person takes care of himself and his interests.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:35pm On Oct 12, 2020
Like!

Many men just can't admit they don't have enough self control grin

Men are easily triggered, i get that! But never say it is their nature to cheat - that sounds very BS

Olababee:


So it's a woman's nature to stay with one man ? Just saying.. men need to learn how to have self control

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:35pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
Yes! There are successful monogamous homes.


Where?

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:36pm On Oct 12, 2020
ePoster:
Nope. When you get married, do you have that in your mind?
When I use the word, I mean cheating isn't a principle or foundation of and on which a marriage is built.

Says who?
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:37pm On Oct 12, 2020
What point are you trying to make


Mine is that cheating is wrong, and men can't excuse themselves with testosterone, nature blah blah blah

What is yours?

Gamesmart:


That is nonsense, mate.

Trying to be in relationship in a manner that suppresses you naturality and will highly never make you happy in your lifetime does not make you "mature", it makes you "delusional" (if a kind word is to be used) or "stupid" (if one is to be blunt and truthful).

All these "maturity" are just nonsense church pastor words.

A mature person takes care of himself and his interests.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by baralatie(m): 7:39pm On Oct 12, 2020
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:42pm On Oct 12, 2020
Everywhere

I have a very close uncle in that category, knew him before and when he married.

There are many bad ones, but because 1 egg in a crate is bad doesn't mean the rest are bad smiley

Gamesmart:


Where?
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by ReluctantAdult(m): 7:44pm On Oct 12, 2020
Olababee:


So it's a woman's nature to stay with one man ? Just saying.. men need to learn how to have self control
Exactly. Women's nature is to stay with the one man who's the most powerful/financially okay amongst all the men seeking her attention. That's why we have hypergamy.

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Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by sunjai(f): 7:45pm On Oct 12, 2020
BBBmall25:
Did U Find Out His Reasons For Cheating? Or U're Just Here Blowing Hot Air For Nothing Out Of "my Sister Sentiment?"
That's a big fat lie. A make-believe. God that made it man and a woman he knows nothing right?
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:46pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
What of the laws that are not stupid

Especially the kind that punishes crime, see why you have to stay open minded smiley

If i get you, not cheating is a way of suppressing natural urges - going by what i am reading here.


I never said all laws are stupid. I said laws can be stupid.

What I meant (for your last sentence) is that making laws or social constructs to "suppress natural urges" is stupid and bound to fail.

For example, making laws that homosexuals must ignore their natural urge and mate with opposite sex is stupid and will fail.

Making laws or social constructs that men (or indeed women) should be monogamous is stupid and will fail.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:48pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
This is obvious, still doesn't cover up cheating!


Calling it "cheating" or whatever you like, the man has urges and not getting his urges satisfied is a miserable life.

If the woman does not like it and cannot handle it, she is free and should be free to leave and find someone that will give her what she wants.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:49pm On Oct 12, 2020
Looks like they used a small sample size - so this research is limited.

It still picks adrenaline as the direct trigger of fight or flight.

baralatie:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-02-testosterone-spiking-winners-mat.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwju34qE2a_sAhWxy4UKHdElAl0QFjAKegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3FmuoB7IMP-D7ZCZtwLBur
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:52pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
What point are you trying to make


Mine is that cheating is wrong, and men can't excuse themselves with testosterone, nature blah blah blah

What is yours?


Mine is that an overwhelming majority of men cannot stick to one woman from one point till the end of their lives except they want to be miserable till they die. So shagging once in a while outside is healthy for them, they are entitled to it and their urge is an excuse.

If the women don't like it "tough", let her build her own happiness. They are free to focus on the negligible that will not cheat.

My only objection is men who flaunt it or do there deed disrespectfully like this bring the other girl to the house).
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:54pm On Oct 12, 2020
You're mixing things up.

I have nothing against polygamy! It is just not my preference.

All of my arguments are centred around two grow up adults who agree to be together and swear an oath!

The fact that there are faithful partners makes this nature jargons silly!

Gamesmart:


I never said all laws are stupid. I said laws can be stupid.

What I meant (for your last sentence) is that making laws or social constructs to "suppress natural urges" is stupid and bound to fail.

For example, making laws that homosexuals must ignore their natural urge and mate with opposite sex is stupid and will fail.

Making laws or social constructs that men (or indeed women) should be monogamous is stupid and will fail.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Gamesmart: 7:54pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
Everywhere

I have a very close uncle in that category, knew him before and when he married.

There are many bad ones, but because 1 egg in a crate is bad doesn't mean the rest are bad smiley


Oga, you are not with your uncle 24 hours.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Klinee: 7:55pm On Oct 12, 2020
nwaezeemmanuel:
If you don't know something, accept it and be open minded.

Like the question I asked
you, you have not reply me.
I asked are you a guy?
Because you are sounding like a woman or impotent guy from birth.
An average man knows that he can have orgasm without ejaculation but can't ejaculate without orgasm even the caption you posted here shows exactly.
So what are your points of argument?
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:58pm On Oct 12, 2020
My God! Make sure you don't marry just one woman.

This post screams infidelity and lack of self control.

Having sexual affairs outside marriage is unhealthy - increases the chances of getting and transmitting STIs.


Gamesmart:


Mine is that an overwhelming majority of men cannot stick to one woman from one point till the end of their lives except they want to be miserable till they die. So shagging once in a while outside is healthy for them, they are entitled to it and their urge is an excuse.

If the women don't like it "tough", let her build her own happiness. They are free to focus on the negligible that will not cheat.

My only objection is men who flaunt it or do there deed disrespectfully like this bring the other girl to the house).
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 7:59pm On Oct 12, 2020
Withdraw yourself from the mindset that every man cheats.

If you do, not every man does! Sorry, there are still faithful men out there.

Gamesmart:


Oga, you are not with your uncle 24 hours.
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by nwaezeemmanuel(m): 8:01pm On Oct 12, 2020
You probably didn't see the first picture

In my opinion, i think you are basing your knowledge on just your experience

Klinee:
Like the question I asked
you, you have not reply me.
I asked are you a guy?
Because you are sounding like a woman or impotent guy from birth.
An average man knows that he can have orgasm without ejaculation but can't ejaculate without orgasm even the caption you posted here shows exactly.
So what are your points of argument?
Re: Cheating! Some Men Are Something Else by Bjornson01(m): 8:12pm On Oct 12, 2020
baralatie:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-02-testosterone-spiking-winners-mat.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwju34qE2a_sAhWxy4UKHdElAl0QFjAKegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3FmuoB7IMP-D7ZCZtwLBur
This article just shows the relationship between testosterone and adrenaline levels in athlete wrestlers, as each win of a wrestler triggers the reward hormone "dopamine", This is a total digression from the topic in question.

You still seem not to understand what a flight or a fight situation is. This is aroused by the cognitive part of the human brain to either stand during times of danger or run away for self preservation, this in turn is triggered by neurons in the brain when danger is sensed, which then sends signals to the apex cortex of the kidney where the adrenal gland is situated releasing a short burst of adrenaline hormone to the blood stream which will only last for a while.

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