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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:58pm On Oct 13, 2020
steady986:
Wait, Cousins got a ring? shocked

For me Javale needs to go. There's no point keeping him if he's a no-factor in the playoffs. Series after series he kept on being the fall guy. Having Cousins and Dwight will give us a more dynamic center position. Right from the off it was not our goal to have two rigid centers, circumstances forced our hands. I hope Cousins can stay fit though, because if he re-signs he's going to be our starting center. But I think we'll have enough to deal with short layoffs, by resorting to AD, Dwight and Markief, but a long injury will be bad.

Whichever way, our size will continue to be a nightmare for teams next season. Damn. Dwight, AD, Cousins, LeBron, Morris, Kuz...that's a lot to handle
He's eligible for one if the at the Lakers behest.

Yeah I think Javale is going to be the scape goat. Boogie slimmed down and was looking so good before the season started. Excited to see which version of him we get, hopefully he's not lost oo much productivity. And you're spot on, him and Dwight offer more versatility.

As for Kuzma, I hope he sorts things out because with the way he's been playing, he's not going to make it through next season. The Lakers also need a wing defender badly, we need someone to throw against someone like Kawhi. Jerami Grant would've been perfect, but unfortunately, hes way out of our price range. Maybe we can stick Jamychal Green from the Clippers or get Harkless.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:01pm On Oct 13, 2020
Bronsexuals always show their lack of basketball knowledge everywhere they go.
It's a constant like rain and taxes. So Drexler and Kersey, KJ by himself who beat Magic's Lakers are not good enough to take MJ to six? Shawn Kemp and the Glove who literally swept Hakeem and the two time defending champion Rockets should somehow not take the Bulls to six. Bronsexuality should be against the law

You have to be an irate Bronsexual crackhead to think a team Harden and Chris Paul very nearly beat cannot lose to a team led by the actual GOAT.

Truly not all crackheads are Bronsexuals but all Bronsexuals are crackheads grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody:
osayi90:
Congrats to the lakers and particularly LeBron James and Anthony Davis. I am a Clippers fan, but I am 80 percent confident that the Lakers will repeat as long as AD and LeBron are healthy. I do not care about the pieces they have around them. LeBron is on a mission and Anthony Davis is just so dynamic and special. It became obvious to me in the playoff that they were (the lakers) heads and shoulders above other teams. I don't care about Kelvin Durant and Kyrie. They have no leadership qualities. Kyrie personality is as toxic as his talent is great. He is a curse in disguise and he is hardly available (always injured) . Also much respect to Frank Vogel.

As for the Clippers, they need to get a very good coach. Lou-Williams needs to be serious-minded and organised. Pat Berverly should tone down the shenanigans and focus more on the game. Kawhi should be Kawhi. Paul George should be more confident in himself and assertive. The clippers should get one more good piece.
First of all how in the hell are you a Clippers fan?

The Lakers have a few holes they need to fill in their roster. They desperately need a defensive wing who can at least make the 3 at a decent clip.

The Clppers need to appoint Sam Cassell, he's their best option given the current pool IMO. Lou Williams will always be a defensive liability especially in the playoffs and when his shots arent falling he's useless. Beverly is point guard who can't create, an overrated defender who is basically useless on the offensive end. Paul George will always be Paul George, everyone saw this coming, this is who he is. The Clippers really aren't as good as people made them out to be. You should watch this video about PG, it was made a very long time ago and it summarizes who he is perfectly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsnHw6eN_Lk
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 3:29pm On Oct 13, 2020
A40:
Don't go out of your way to misunderstand me. The claim was that the Warriors were unbeatable, I showed you that the Warriors were 3-2 down and a healthy Chris Paul away from being eliminated. Even in Game 7 without CP3 it took 27 straight missed 3's for them to lose

The very next year the Rockets were clearly not nearly as good and it showed because they were the #4 seed not the #1 seed

Jordan lost to Orlando yes but that was after almost two years away from basketball. He averaged 31pts in that series so he didn't do too badly.

My argument is replace Harden with MJ in 2018 they would have beaten that Warriors squad. Unless you're telling me Harden is better than Mike.

They made two's but if they had a midrange killer like MJ they would not need to take that many three's. Harden took 13 3's only made 2.
MJ is great enough to cause that Rockets team to win but if we are allowed to make the argument that Rockets were not the same the next year then we can do so for GSW with KD. Remember they did 16-1 in 2017/18 with a 67-15 record. Following season they were 58-24 and the 2nd seeded team with very obvious chemistry issues. I believe the "unbeatable" GSW they were refering to was the 2017/18 version.
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 3:33pm On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
Naah you're wrong, LeBron needs 7 more rings with at least 4 more FMVPs to catch up with the real GOAT, Bill Russell, since we're counting rings.
Bros, we are not just counting rings. MJ averaged more points than Bron to add to his regular season MVP at age 35. Bron is chasing a ghost and he said so himself. I respect LBJ but he is also benefiting from the narratives he thinks are against him. Don't forget when KD and Curry were never allowed to get MVP votes because the media accepted that they will "cancel eachother out" but changed that same rule for LBJ and AD? Let us be objective. LBJ has not eclipsed Jordan yet and he will have to atleast match his FMVPs to be reasonably there.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 4:09pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:
Bros, we are not just counting rings. MJ averaged more points than Bron to add to his regular season MVP at age 35. Bron is chasing a ghost and he said so himself. I respect LBJ but he is also benefiting from the narratives he thinks are against him. Don't forget when KD and Curry were never allowed to get MVP votes because the media accepted that they will "cancel eachother out" but changed that same rule for LBJ and AD? Let us be objective. LBJ has not eclipsed Jordan yet and he will have to atleast match his FMVPs to be reasonably there.
He said he's chasing a ghost 4 years ago. You said you are not just counting rings but you are telling me Bron needs more ringshuh

Lol why are you people so obsessed with points? seriously! Jordan averaged more points, is that what you have to say? Bron led the league in assists and finished second in MVP voting while averaging three less points. You should also compare their stats in the finals.


Its not because of KD and Curry, its because its KD Curry Klay and Draymond. And wasnt the biggest argument against LeBron the fact that he had someone like AD and Giannis didnt? Thats why he didnt win.

I see now you're a Larriors fan who probably started watching basketball 5 years ago, so I get why some of your arguments sound so half formed. Theres no criteria that says the GOAT has to have the most rings or FMVP, never was until people started setting some asymmetric standards for LeBron.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:37pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:
MJ is great enough to cause that Rockets team to win but if we are allowed to make the argument that Rockets were not the same the next year then we can do so for GSW with KD. Remember they did 16-1 in 2017/18 with a 67-15 record. Following season they were 58-24 and the 2nd seeded team with very obvious chemistry issues. I believe the "unbeatable" GSW they were refering to was the 2017/18 version.
I am not delusional enough to suggest that MJ beats that Warriors team every year but I know for certain that he beats the 2017/2018 version of them.

Warriors at their strongest was the 16/17 season and even then you had the Spurs blowing them out in their own building till Zaza stepped on Kawhi's ankles and the series was ruined
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:48pm On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
He said he's chasing a ghost 4 years ago. You said you are not just counting rings but you are telling me Bron needs more ringshuh

Lol why are you people so obsessed with points? seriously! Jordan averaged more points, is that what you have to say? Bron led the league in assists and finished second in MVP voting while averaging three less points. You should also compare their stats in the finals.


Its not because of KD and Curry, its because its KD Curry Klay and Draymond. And wasnt the biggest argument against LeBron the fact that he had someone like AD and Giannis didnt? Thats why he didnt win.

I see now you're a Larriors fan who probably started watching basketball 5 years ago, so I get why some of your arguments sound so half formed. Theres no criteria that says the GOAT has to have the most rings or FMVP, never was until people started setting some asymmetric standards for LeBron.
Rings are a quantifiable way to characterize winning and dominance. FMVPs to a relaying-degree measure how much of that dominance and winning are dependent on said person. Let us not throw objectivity to the wind. The Bill Russell arguments are distractions that work both for and in your favor. If we take him as number one then MJ will still rank over LBJ which we are discussing. Harden has had a 29/11 season with better winning percentage than WestBrook but the MVP still went to Russell for his 31/10. The point being, there is no hard and fast rule to these things. The only constant is that Giannis had a better regular season statisitically and otherwise than every other player and with a better winning record. You are right that being the GOAT is not fixed on rings alone though.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody:
This is crazy. Barring any serious injury, this man is going to dominate your favourite players until he's forty. This sort of dominance is unprecedented.

Shout out to AD as well. He's starting to stake a claim to being better than a lot of the so called "top 5" players in the league.

Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:51pm On Oct 13, 2020
A40:
I am not delusional enough to suggest that MJ beats that Warriors team every year but I know for certain that he beats the 2017/2018 version of them.

Warriors at their strongest was the 16/17 season and even then you had the Spurs blowing them out in their own building till Zaza stepped on Kawhi's ankles and the series was ruined
I meant 2016/17 version of the warriors. My bad.

And yes, maybe they lose game 1 against Spurs with Kawhi (although they had lost a similar regular season game in Texas 22 points down after half time and without Durant). But, they are not winning that series. It would have been like Portland vs LAL this playoffs.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 4:55pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:
Rings are a quantifiable way to characterize winning and dominance. FMVPs to a relaying-degree measure how much of that dominance and winning are dependent on said person. Let us not throw objectivity to the wind. The Bill Russell arguments are distractions that work both for and in your favor. If we take him as number one then MJ will still rank over LBJ which we are discussing. Harden has had a 29/11 season with better winning percentage than WestBrook but the MVP still went to Russell for his 31/10. The point being, there is no hard and fast rule to these things. The only constant is that Giannis had a better regular season statisitically and otherwise than every other player and with a better winning record. You are right that being the GOAT is not fixed on rings alone though.
What about the five times LeBron was far and away the best player in the finals but came out of it with nothing to show for? The point is we don't take him as number 1, we don't even consider him better than Wilt, a guy his team beat multiple times and has fewer rings than Bill in the same era.

The biggest knock against Bron this year was he had AD. That was the argument everyone was making. You're right though, there is no definitive criteria to these awards. So stop trying to make it seem as if there is.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 4:57pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:
I meant 2016/17 version of the warriors. My bad.

And yes, maybe they lose game 1 against Spurs with Kawhi (although they had lost a similar regular season game in Texas 22 points down after half time and without Durant). But, they are not winning that series. It would have been like Portland vs LAL this playoffs.
The spurs would probably have lost that game and definitely that series. Anyone who tells you otherwise is on crack.

Where have I heard this spurs zaza argument before? Oh wait...

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:37pm On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
He's eligible for one if the at the Lakers behest.

Yeah I think Javale is going to be the scape goat. Boogie slimmed down and was looking so good before the season started. Excited to see which version of him we get, hopefully he's not lost oo much productivity. And you're spot on, him and Dwight offer more versatility.

As for Kuzma, I hope he sorts things out because with the way he's been playing, he's not going to make it through next season. The Lakers also need a wing defender badly, we need someone to throw against someone like Kawhi. Jerami Grant would've been perfect, but unfortunately, hes way out of our price range. Maybe we can stick Jamychal Green from the Clippers or get Harkless.
And AD about to get his max salary, which makes me feel Danny Green will be the one to be sacrificed.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:42pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:
I meant 2016/17 version of the warriors. My bad.

And yes, maybe they lose game 1 against Spurs with Kawhi (although they had lost a similar regular season game in Texas 22 points down after half time and without Durant). But, they are not winning that series. It would have been like Portland vs LAL this playoffs.
They were down by 23 points in the 3rd quarter. With Durant. It's more likely than likely that they lose the game.

If they have a healthy Kawhi who says they don't win two or three games? Heck who says they can't win the series? Neither you or that lousy crackhead Bronsexual can prove otherwise. It will forever be one of those unknown unknowns
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:52pm On Oct 13, 2020
Android17:
Bros, we are not just counting rings. MJ averaged more points than Bron to add to his regular season MVP at age 35. Bron is chasing a ghost and he said so himself. I respect LBJ but he is also benefiting from the narratives he thinks are against him. Don't forget when KD and Curry were never allowed to get MVP votes because the media accepted that they will "cancel eachother out" but changed that same rule for LBJ and AD? Let us be objective. LBJ has not eclipsed Jordan yet and he will have to atleast match his FMVPs to be reasonably there.
So who ever averaged more points automatically is the better player? Really? And are we still talking about regular season MVP when LeBron has won the finals MVP? Isn't the finals MVP the be all and end all? The bottom line is that at age 35, LeBron will be entering next season as the best player in the league. Same with MJ, but obviously he retired temporarily at 35

And in the three years KD and Steph played together, Giannis, Harden and Westbrook all won MVP. Giannis won it with 27.7 and 12.5 and had the best record in the league. Harden won it with 30pts and 8.8 assists while leading Houston to first in the west. Westbrook won it while averaging an unprecedented 31 point triple double. Tell me who you would have not given MVP from those three?
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:03pm On Oct 13, 2020
Crackhead Bronsexuals cannot fathom the fact that other teams could hang with KD Warriors because their Queen got gentlemanly swept even with Kyrie and Love grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody:
steady986:
And AD about to get his max salary, which makes me feel Danny Green will be the one to be sacrificed.
AD will most likely sign a 1+1. Gives the team flexibility in the next free agency to get another star and allows him to reach the tenure needed to sign the biggest supermax available. Danny Greens contract runs out in 2021 anyway. All the Lakers contracts do with that free agency class in mind.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 6:13pm On Oct 13, 2020
Lol. I love how someone is trying so hard to make us believe that KD Warriors was a beatable team in a 7-game series. The desperation grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:16pm On Oct 13, 2020
Why be a sheep when you can be the GOAT?

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 6:20pm On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
This is crazy. Barring any serious injury, this man is going to dominate your favourite players until he's forty. This sort of dominance is unprecedented.

Shout out to AD as well. He's starting stake a claim to being better than a lot of the so called "top 5" players in the league.
At 35, MJ knew doing more than scoring would be asking a bit too much from him. At 35 Bron is still dominant in every single category. Only God knows how many shots MJ had to take per game to score 33

By the time LeBron is done playing there won't be a doubt as to who the GOAT is.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:22pm On Oct 13, 2020
steady986:
Lol. I love how someone is trying so hard to make us believe that KD Warriors was a beatable team in a 7-game series. The desperation grin
LOL I'm telling you that man needs deliverance. He needs the holy ghost.


Only one man can save him now, cheesy

Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:24pm On Oct 13, 2020
steady986:
At 35, MJ knew doing more than scoring would be asking a bit too much from him. At 35 Bron is still dominant in every single category. Only God know how many shots he had to take per game to score 33

By the time LeBron is done playing there won't be a doubt as to who the GOAT is.
They'll always be doubt. There'll always be people like our resident village idiot.

But for objective people, the evidence will be too overwhelming to deny.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:29pm On Oct 13, 2020
cheesy

Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:31pm On Oct 13, 2020
Championship Chuck.


Listen to this man Giannis, he knows what he's talking about. cheesy

Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:36pm On Oct 13, 2020
This is why I will never take idiots like these seriously. 6-0 is better than 6-6 because its better to lose in the first round than the finals AKA Giannis had a better postseason than Jimmy Butler this year. Friggin idiots.

Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 6:39pm On Oct 13, 2020
WeissVonner:
This is crazy. Barring any serious injury, this man is going to dominate your favourite players until he's forty. This sort of dominance is unprecedented.

Shout out to AD as well. He's starting to stake a claim to being better than a lot of the so called "top 5" players in the league.
Just checked. MJ went 11 of 27 in that series while attempting only 2 threes. He was 30% from 3. LeBron meanwhile went 11 of 19 while attempting 6 threes. He was 41.7% from 3.

LET THAT SINK IN
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:45pm On Oct 13, 2020
steady986:
Just checked. MJ went 11 of 27 in that series while attempting only 2 threes. He was 30% from 3. LeBron meanwhile went 11 of 19 while attempting 6 threes. He was 41.7% from 3.

LET THAT SINK IN
Yeah in a lot of those finals the man went into complete brick mode but still won anyway. And he was never a good 3 point shooter except for that season when the NBA moved the line to help him. He was an unbelievably great player, no doubt about it. But the canonization of this man or his glorification as some kind of perfect deity is just ridiculous.
Re: The NBA Begins by Ocon: 7:50pm On Oct 13, 2020
So much gnashing of teeth
Lakers win really pained some people ehnnn grin
I love to see it
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:57pm On Oct 13, 2020
Lmaoooo at the two Bronsexual knobjockeys. CP3 and James Harden proved that the KD Warriors were very beatable. It literally took CP3 missing the last two games for Golden State to come back and win.

Just because your Queen was getting gentlemanly swept and his wig pushed back
by that team doesn't mean other teams didn't come extremely close to beating them. Hell even the Clippers took them to six but your Queen got waxed in 5
Re: The NBA Begins by Hohenheim(m): 9:01pm On Oct 13, 2020
The fact that you have to always mention Jordan anytime LeBron wins is disrespectful to Bron, let that man enjoy his chip, i don't think MJ even cares at all.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:25pm On Oct 13, 2020
Bronsexuals will always show their illiteracy about basketball anywhere they find themselves. How many times would we drum it into their ears that in the triangle system there is never one ball dominant creator unlike the PnR. No wonder idiots think all MJ did was score

I won't even talk about rebounding which is by far the easiest statistics to pad for any player gunning to do so

LeNomad has the shot chart of a center. If not that the average Bronsexual is clueless he would know that MJ would not be as efficient as someone that takes over 60% of his shots from 3ft. Common sense also dictates that someone taking 6 3's would likely have better efficiency than someone taking just 2

Walahi Bronsexuality should be against the law

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:31pm On Oct 13, 2020
Lol who is this chap? Abeg chale dey your dey
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