BMedia:


Everyone knows this except you're living under a rock.

https://www.nairaland.com/6220684/oyigbo-how-carnage-started-warning-

It's obvious you haven't even read the thread on the link you are giving me. Please read again carefully and pinpoint an evidence of killings by ipob

gidgiddy:


You really believe that IPOB just got up one day, started killing Northerners burning down Police stations and killing Soldiers and Police?

Dont you think that if this is how IPOB operates, they would have been doing the same in Abia, Imo Enugu and other places?

There is nothing that happened in Oyigbo that was not happening all across the South of Nigeria during ENDSARS. Police stations were being burnt, property destroyed and lives lost in almost every state in the South of Nigeria

But it was only Wike who went about proscribing people, shouting terrorism, imposing week long curfew and inviting the military

Repeating lies do not change facts.

IPOB (an officially proscribed anti-govt terrorist group) attacked & killed innocent northern businessmen & burnt their properties..

Oyigbo is the only place that happened in the south.

Even Wike mentioned the attack on another ethnic group live on his ban speech. Check youtube.

also check the thread below:
https://www.nairaland.com/6220684/oyigbo-how-carnage-started-warning-

jidamsel43:
Yes, it's right to kill all terrorists ' Ipob members ' who desecrated the sanctity of Nigerian Army by killing them and also fled with their weapons.

The town will experience less piece unless the perpetrators of this sacrilegious act are fished out to face the full wrath of the law

Hope you know Karma has a way of bookmarking our heart desires?

gidgiddy:


Where did you get this story that IPOB was carrying guns in Rivers, not to talk of Ebonyi?

I have people on ground even before it hit the media

No it's not.

Buttttttt.......The extra judicial Killing is not done only by the Nigerian Army. It's also being done by Kanu and by every elected Igbo leaders who refused to speak up against him.

Kanu is recruiting young Igbo men into a war that cannot be won. He's recruiting them to act an insurgents against their host. He's recruiting them as an enemy of the state. Above all he's recruiting them to be disrespectful.

If every elected Igbo leaders continue to refuse to speak up against him, Kanu will instigate another insurgent in another region and it will be worse than what's happening now.

Eastlink:
Hope you know Karma has a way of bookmarking our heart desires?

Condemn the evil killing of northerners & security agents by IPOB terrorists for once if you want to be taken seriously.

What do you think Karma should do to them?

luvmijeje:
No it's not.

Buttttttt.......The extra judicial Killing is not done only by the Nigerian Army. It's also being done by Kanu and by every elected Igbo leaders who refused to speak up against him.

Kanu is recruiting young Igbo men into a war that cannot be won. He's recruiting them to act an insurgents against their host. He's recruiting them as an enemy of the state. Above all he's recruiting them to be disrespectful.

If every elected Igbo leaders continue to refuse to speak up against him, Kanu will instigate another insurgent in another region and it will be worse than what's happening now.

That's the point. He's recruiting youths to become enemy of the state which people are turning from. Ipob weren't killing before na. Just processions, gatherings, protests


See my sister, if anyone touches ipob, we will from other places join them to fight back. But not when ipob is the miscreant. No. It should be in the defensive posture, not offense


I maintain my unashamed and planned apathy towards ipob,not just yesterday but today and tomorrow. But when it's defending it's sovereign interests and not when it's on rampage. It's that simple.

RedPhoenix:




Help us tell them o


Trailers were burnt down. Traders burnt down with their goods.


They went cheerfully killing on a killing spree, and when the heat us turned on, they begun to act like the cowards they are making all sorts of accusations on innocent people who weren't there when they started



I've told them. I still will tell them, they should only start what they can finish.

But trucks with cows and other goods and their owners and drivers were killed and burnt at fagba near agege in lagos and i didnt see any millitary extrajudicial bloodletting, maybe the rules of engagement applied differently to igbos.

Conrod:
But trucks with cows and other goods and their owners and drivers were killed and burnt at fagba near agege in lagos and i didnt see any millitary extrajudicial bloodletting, maybe the rules of engagement applied differently to igbos.

Smiles. I know about that incident even more personal than you think. Trust me. Non igbos had their properties burnt. Let's start from there


Also. Elders within the area came together to appease both sides. Hausa and yoruba alike.


There wasn't a deliberate approach against the military to Shoot or return or exchange shots and have them killed


When it happened in Udi, it wasn't anti-igbo
Through tough the last 15 years the army was flocking the south South, they didn't cry hatred against their tribe


Be mature.



The defense of " anti - igbo " as well as " anti yoruba " are too anklnoying to my levels of tolerwnce


When the SW governors where trying to make Lekki anti yoruba. You weren't there when I was dragging the entire yoruba race on that hypocritical stance.



Let's deal with issues without the ethnic coloration please

Muna4real:


It's obvious you haven't even read the thread on the link you are giving me. Please read again carefully and pinpoint an evidence of killings by ipob

I cannot wake a person pretending to sleep.

Everything pointed to the northerners being attacked and killed by protesters who were ipob members who hijacked the endsars protest

Maybe you lack data to watch the video shot by the northerners mentioning ipob as their attackers.

If not convinced go and watch Wikes ban video on youtube where he explicitly mentioned their attack on another ethnic group.

If still in doubt go to Oyigbo to find out this fact.

RedPhoenix:





That's the point. He's recruiting youths to become enemy of the state which people are turning from. Ipob weren't killing before na. Just processions, gatherings, protests


See my sister, if anyone touches ipob, we will from other places join them to fight back. But not when ipob is the miscreant. No. It should be in the defensive posture, not offense


I maintain my unashamed and planned apathy towards ipob,not just yesterday but today and tomorrow. But when it's defending it's sovereign interests and not when it's on rampage. It's that simple.

Good point. Kanu is just a senseless human being.

How can you be instigating war against elected leaders and security operatives and you expect there will be no fight back.

BMedia:


I cannot wake a person pretending to sleep.

Everything pointed to the northerners being attacked and killed by protesters who were ipob members who hijacked the endsars protest

Maybe you lack data to watch the video shot by the northerners mentioning ipob as their attackers.

If not convinced go and watch Wikes ban video on youtube where he explicitly mentioned their attack on another ethnic group.

If still in doubt go to Oyigbo to find out this fact.

This was exactly what happened. They went on a killing rampage and where gloriously celebrating it. While it appeared they were winning it seemed sweet at first.


But it became too much. When consequences are triggered. All we're hearing is people hate igbo. People do igbo.



I rather in the entire country do things with an igbo than anyone else. But I won't Bury the truth of what transpired.



Protest shouldn't be taken as legitimacy to go on Needless killing spree

BMedia:


Condemn the evil killing of northerners & security agents by IPOB terrorists for once if you want to be taken seriously.

What do you think Karma should do to them?

I have always condemned evil. When the nonsense in Oyigbo started I spoke up. I guess you opened the following threads for me.

https://www.nairaland.com/6214760/rejoinder-governor-wikes-ban-ipob

https://www.nairaland.com/6204998/how-end-ipob-menace-se

Conrod:
But trucks with cows and other goods and their owners and drivers were killed and burnt at fagba near agege in lagos and i didnt see any millitary extrajudicial bloodletting, maybe the rules of engagement applied differently to igbos.

When it is a proscribed anti-govt seccesionist group that sustained a hate campaign against the North & other regions that is involved in the killing of innocent northerners in fulfillment of their Radio threats, then of course the rules of engagement will be very different.

Not to mention the same group now going ahead to kill & disarm soldiers & policemen.

Nigerians will be supporting extra-judicial killings of another tribe. The same Nigerians will be wondering why this blood-soaked country has not progressed while Africa and indeed the world has left it behind

Very spiritually dead type of people

luvmijeje:


Good point. Kanu is just a senseless human being.

How can you be instigating war against elected leaders and security operatives and you expect there will be no fight back.

My problem with Kanu, Asari Dokubo I've said it from ages back. They don't know how to sustain peace. And to push for their agenda forcefully will lead to loss of lives. The SE can through a referendum become a country on its own. But it needs a process. It's getting faster. Thus isn't even the time for kanu to be pushing for violence but stylishly wining the hearts of the International. Community to support the move to make Ndigbo get the opportunity for a referendum.


He's grossly unstrategic like his brother there Asari


I may support their causes but will never see the too as intelligent enough to be effective leaders



I'm. Wishing the referendum comes but they shouldn't force a separation at the price of human lives...

RedPhoenix:




This was exactly what happened. They went on a killing rampage and where gloriously celebrating it. While it appeared they were winning it seemed sweet at first.


But it became too much. When consequences are triggered. All we're hearing is people hate igbo. People do igbo.



I rather in the entire country do things with an igbo than anyone else. But I won't Bury the truth of what transpired.



Protest shouldn't be taken as legitimacy to go on Needless killing spree

I asked you a question but I didn't get any answer. If you want peace in Oyigbo you would forgo revenge in your heart. Ask for justice rather. Let the culprit be tried and if found guilty sentenced. This is because from when you guy began taking revenge instead of justice, things got worst. If you use your thinking faculty, you would ask yourself why Jos, Southern Kaduna, Agatu, Mile 12 etc have become a killing field for your people and the indigenes. Have the years of revenge solved anything?

Oyigbo crisis didn't start today. They’ve been a problem going on in not just that axis, but other places. The EndSARS actually brought another dimension to it, the same way it brought another dimension to Fagba.

Eastlink:
I have always condemned evil. When the nonsense in Oyigbo started I spoke up. I guess you opened the following threads for me.

https://www.nairaland.com/6214760/rejoinder-governor-wikes-ban-ipob

https://www.nairaland.com/6204998/how-end-ipob-menace-se

What do you think Karma should do to the unarmed civilian killing IPOB terrorists?

Eastlink:
I asked you a question but I didn't get any answer. If you want peace in Oyigbo you would forgo revenge in your heart. This is because from when you guy began taking revenge instead of justice, things got worst. If you use your thinking faculty, you would ask yourself why Jos, Southern Kaduna, Agatu, Mile 12 etc have become a killing field for your ethnic group. Have the years of revenge solved anything?

I will never stand for an army killing even one in youth. Not to even say two.


I'm saying when they come they leave destruction behind. Who do we blame?


That's the point. So to me to avoid soldier is to not incite their invite. Simple. Them no get sebse



Be it in Aba, Rivers, Port Harcourt. Owerrri


Nigerian Army on its own has been cultured to hate the south. Some people come give them invitation. You sef check am out.?



We all. Know the non-southern soldier is technically trained to hate people that don't look like them fine.... But why then invite them? Why?




Why extend the invitation to your so called enemy to come to your territory. Why?


You see my anger now?

RedPhoenix:



I will never stand for an army killing even one in youth. Not to even say two.


I'm saying when they come they leave destruction behind. Who do we blame?


That's the point. So to me to avoid soldier is to not incite their invite. Simple. Them no get sebse



Be it in Aba, Rivers, Port Harcourt. Owerrri


Nigerian Army on its own has been cultured to hate the south. Some people come give them invitation. You sef check am out.?



We all. Know the non-southern soldier is technically trained to hate people that don't look like them fine.... But why then invite them? Why?

Nigerian army has done worst in the middle-belt as it has done in the south. There is always this ethnic thing about the security forces that have made Nigeria a worst place to live in. This is the reason why people are asking questions about how this country is run. The earlier we change this culture, the better. Else, a time might come when people won't trust the military. It's happening where people take laws into their hands. If there is justice nothing of such will happen. But the country is badly stained.

Make you self check am.

Conrod:
But trucks with cows and other goods and their owners and drivers were killed and burnt at fagba near agege in lagos and i didnt see any millitary extrajudicial bloodletting, maybe the rules of engagement applied differently to igbos.

I have warned every Igbo youth not to engage in any protest that concerns Nigeria but the foolish ones will never understand. When problems hit you Nigerians keep mute.
As for wike he should just watch what will hit him and the Fulani military this week.

RedPhoenix:



I have people on ground even before it hit the media

Anyone can say anything. Mere words are not proof of anything. One thing is definitely clear. Wilkes narrative that IPOB just got up one morning, started to kill people in Oyigbo, burning down Police stations and killing Soldiers is simply not true.

Videos have now emerged that right before Wike proscribed IPOB on 23rd of October, there was a 4 way battle between Oyigbo residents, Northerners, the security forces and ENDSARS protesters. There were serious problems in Oyigbo

But according to Wike and his supporters, IPOB just got one morning and started destroying lives and property. There was no mention of the Northerners nor ENDSARS. Everything was IPOB's fault.

Just giving a Dog a bad name to hang it

Eastlink:
Nigerian army has done worst in the middle-belt as it has done in the south. There is always this ethnic thing about the security forces that have made Nigeria a worst place to live in. This is the reason why people are asking questions about how this country is run. The earlier this cultures changes, the better. Else, a time might come when people won't trust the multi as it us already happening where people take laws into their hands.

Make you self check am.

Now you're talking like a man at the palm. Wine table


That's why ipob should never be in an offensive posture, but defensive



See. If ipob kill 12000 hausa or Fulani in a defensive posture. Other non-ibos will lend support if needs arises. But if a non-ibos dies from a deliberate attack of ipob, even if it's one person, it should be condemned as that's no longer tribal protectionism but hate induced killing... Its killing for the fun of it




That's why the best way to keep the army o, police away is to not do what will make them come


I've never had more than 1 issue with police or security. Why, I hate them so much I don't do what will make me have things with them


The law the Bible says is made for the lawless not for the law abiding.

gidgiddy:


Anyone can say anything. Mere words are not proof of anything. One thing is definitely clear. Wilkes narrative that IPOB just got up one morning, started to kill people in Oyigbo, burning down Police stations and killing Soldiers is simply not true.

Videos have now emerged that right before Wike proscribed IPOB on 23rd of October, there was a 4 way battle between Oyigbo residents, Northerners, the security forces and ENDSARS protesters. There were serious problems in Oyigbo

But according to Wike and his supporters, IPOB just got one morning and started destroying lives and property. There was no mention of the Northerners nor ENDSARS. Everything was IPOB's fault.

Just giving a Dog a bad name to hang it

Na so. Continue peddling your anti-igbo narratives.


Go and do your research so you won't say you were lied to about the incidences.

BMedia:


I cannot wake a person pretending to sleep.

Everything pointed to the northerners being attacked and killed by protesters who were ipob members who hijacked the endsars protest

Maybe you lack data to watch the video shot by the northerners mentioning ipob as their attackers.

If not convinced go and watch Wikes ban video on youtube where he explicitly mentioned their attack on another ethnic group.

If still in doubt go to Oyigbo to find out this fact.

I copied this text from the link you gave me


On the 20th of October ENDSARS protesters storm the streets , moving from road to road going towards ELEME demanding for an end to police brutality.

When some people, civilians like them stopped them and denied them passage. I comfirmed from multiple sources and my sources said those who stopped where of the Hausa extraction. (I don't know why, but their actions must not be unconnected to the narrative that the ENDSARS protest was political motivated, and heavily influenced by now proscribed succession ist group IPOB

Their actions didn't sit well with the protesters as they felt they being denied passage through their indigenous land.

The fracas quickly resulted to violence, in the process one life was lost. An Hausa Man






I bolded the word narrative for you to see for yourself that everything that took place was as a result of a mere narrative. How will they not mention ipob when wike has labelled all the protesters ipob? Have you seen any ipob protester without a biafran flag? Or without ipob printed materials? Why have you decided not to use your brain? Wike is pursuing something else and not ipob. How else will you explain the careless killings of innocent citizens by the army? Imagine going from house to house to harass young men and women. Isn't that the definition of stupidity? Is that how to look for "ipob members "?

Muna4real:


I copied this text from the link you gave me


On the 20th of October ENDSARS protesters storm the streets , moving from road to road going towards ELEME demanding for an end to police brutality.

When some people, civilians like them stopped them and denied them passage. I comfirmed from multiple sources and my sources said those who stopped where of the Hausa extraction. (I don't know why, but their actions must not be unconnected to the narrative that the ENDSARS protest was political motivated, and heavily influenced by now proscribed succession ist group IPOB

Their actions didn't sit well with the protesters as they felt they being denied passage through their indigenous land.

The fracas quickly resulted to violence, in the process one life was lost. An Hausa Man






I bolded the word narrative for you to see for yourself that everything that took place was as a result of a mere narrative. How will they not mention ipob when wike has labelled all the protesters ipob? Have you seen any ipob protester without a biafran flag? Or without ipob printed materials? Why have you decided not to use your brain? Wike is pursuing something else and not ipob. How else will you explain the careless killings of innocent citizens by the army? Imagine going from house to house to harass young men and women. Isn't that the definition of stupidity? Is that how to look for "ipob members "?

That guy Spinned the narrative. That's not how it happened o.

Muna4real:


I copied this text from the link you gave me


On the 20th of October ENDSARS protesters storm the streets , moving from road to road going towards ELEME demanding for an end to police brutality.

When some people, civilians like them stopped them and denied them passage. I comfirmed from multiple sources and my sources said those who stopped where of the Hausa extraction. (I don't know why, but their actions must not be unconnected to the narrative that the ENDSARS protest was political motivated, and heavily influenced by now proscribed succession ist group IPOB

Their actions didn't sit well with the protesters as they felt they being denied passage through their indigenous land.

The fracas quickly resulted to violence, in the process one life was lost. An Hausa Man






I bolded the word narrative for you to see for yourself that everything that took place was as a result of a mere narrative. How will they not mention ipob when wike has labelled all the protesters ipob? Have you seen any ipob protester without a biafran flag? Or without ipob printed materials? Why have you decided not to use your brain? Wike is pursuing something else and not ipob. How else will you explain the careless killings of innocent citizens by the army? Imagine going from house to house to harass young men and women. Isn't that the definition of stupidity? Is that how to look for "ipob members "?

Continue asking 21 questions about an established fact. Did Kanu not explicitly ask them to not fly flags or show any Biafran signs as they hijacked the protest or you think everyone is ignorant of ipob shenanigans? You think you have more intelligence reports than Wike the chief security officer that mentioned ipob in his statement?

Its either you are very dishonest, wilfully blind or grossly ignorant to still be asking questions and I'm not your therapist so swerve.

RedPhoenix:




My problem with Kanu, Asari Dokubo I've said it from ages back. They don't know how to sustain peace. And to push for their agenda forcefully will lead to loss of lives. The SE can through a referendum become a country on its own. But it needs a process. It's getting faster. Thus isn't even the time for kanu to be pushing for violence but stylishly wining the hearts of the International. Community to support the move to make Ndigbo get the opportunity for a referendum.


He's grossly unstrategic like his brother there Asari


I may support their causes but will never see the too as intelligent enough to be effective leaders



I'm. Wishing the referendum comes but they shouldn't force a separation at the price of human lives...

Do they truly want to secede?

I am not seeing any sign of seriousness.

They want to secede and I am not seeing any of this signs

* The Governors are not speaking up in support
* The Traditional leaders in the 5 states are not speaking up in support
* The Igbos outside the South East are not speaking out
* Those in the National Assembly are not speaking out
* And above all, the South East Region has no seaport, has no population to consume what he's trading and small land mass and he still wants to secede.

As far I'm concern its just a trick to get power.

Muna4real:


I copied this text from the link you gave me


On the 20th of October ENDSARS protesters storm the streets , moving from road to road going towards ELEME demanding for an end to police brutality.

When some people, civilians like them stopped them and denied them passage. I comfirmed from multiple sources and my sources said those who stopped where of the Hausa extraction. (I don't know why, but their actions must not be unconnected to the narrative that the ENDSARS protest was political motivated, and heavily influenced by now proscribed succession ist group IPOB

Their actions didn't sit well with the protesters as they felt they being denied passage through their indigenous land.

The fracas quickly resulted to violence, in the process one life was lost. An Hausa Man






I bolded the word narrative for you to see for yourself that everything that took place was as a result of a mere narrative. How will they not mention ipob when wike has labelled all the protesters ipob? Have you seen any ipob protester without a biafran flag? Or without ipob printed materials? Why have you decided not to use your brain? Wike is pursuing something else and not ipob. How else will you explain the careless killings of innocent citizens by the army? Imagine going from house to house to harass young men and women. Isn't that the definition of stupidity? Is that how to look for "ipob members "?

Wike is politicizing the happening in Oyigbo and it will spell doom for him if he doesn't call the army to order. I expected the security operatives to arrest those involved in the crisis and not make things worst. But it's obvious things have now excalated. I don't know how Wike would come out of this unscathed? It's not too late for Wike to seek advice rather than keep making things worst for himself.

luvmijeje:


Do they truly want to secede?

I am not seeing any sign of seriousness.

They want to secede and I am not seeing any of this signs

* The Governors are not speaking up in support
* The Traditional leaders in the 5 states are not speaking up in support
* The Igbos outside the South East are not speaking out
* Those in the National Assembly are not speaking out
* And above all, the South East Region has no seaport, has no population to consume what he's trading and small land mass and he still wants to secede.

As far I'm concern its just a trick to get power.

No. I actually believe the SE is not entirely treated in the best possible way. There are clear facts that points to this. While secession through referendum is a decision many Ndigbo and other non-Ndigbo who are supported of this cause remains, we constantly maintain the secession without wasting young lives, brought about by grooming them to become state enemies to then fight the state. Yes, SE wants to secede and as I always say in my public speeches. I advice all igbos to support secession over power because it can control the vertical and horizontal lines of how it should exist. But, training young men to go out to kill. Hausas going about their normal lives burning their communities I will never stand for. Even in an independent Ndigbo, there still will be Hausas. So I'm pro-tolerant, pro-process in how things should be done. And yes, without hatred.

RedPhoenix:




That guy Spinned the narrative. That's not how it happened o.

Okay how did it happen? Ipob got up and started killing hausas Abi? That's the story you want to hear. I don't know why you guys think that ipob will kill Hausas in Rivers when they haven't done anything to them in the south east. What's so special about the hausas in Oyigbo? Do they carry gold and silver? What do they have that the ones in IMO, Eboyi, Anambra, Abia and Enugu do not have. Tell me.

BMedia:


Continue asking 21 questions about an established fact. Did Kanu not explicitly ask them to not fly flags or show any Biafran signs as they hijacked the protest or you think everyone is ignorant of ipob shenanigans? You think you have more intelligence reports than Wike the chief security officer that mentioned ipob in his statement?

Its either you are very dishonest, wilfully blind or grossly ignorant to still be asking questions and I'm not your therapist so swerve.

When did kanu do that?