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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by toluxe0075: 11:10am On Nov 12, 2020
PDP is just a very unserious political party in this country. As soon as they lost the presidential power, they became complacent. No action or whatsoever to put the ruling party on their toes. Pdp is no different to ApC anyways. They are probably hoping to snatch power again and continue with their fuckery.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nobody: 11:11am On Nov 12, 2020
LZAA:
grin grin grin
What kinda claptrap is this this early morninggrin
Sha na ur opinion
Alex ekwueme was a key member in the formation of PDP and igbos have always had their own party from time immemorial
APC has more projects in SE
My guy u must be related to lai Mohammedgrin
Im.hotep and iceberg3 must hear this
Cc blackking98 ebenezar2021 Afonjaconehead helinues Afamed
Nwadiuto247 needs urgent re-orientation grin

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by tuniski: 11:15am On Nov 12, 2020
Nwadiuto247:
PDP will lose a lot of vote in the southeast in 2023 election due to the following.

The 2015 and 2019 voting pattern in the South East was a kind of protest vote against APC who they see as people who cheated Jonathan out of power. With Buhari out of the game in 2023 the voting pattern will change and
PDP will lose a good number of it's voters in the South East to APC.

2. The rumour of killing of igbos in Oyigbo is another factor that has dampen the excitement the south east have about Wike and PDP.

3. The defection of Gov. Umahi to APC will lead to more defection before 2023 and this will affect PDP. Votes in the SE.

The days of 5% APC and 95% PDP in the South East are over.

APC has more visible projects in South East than the PDP but PDP gave South East more appointments than APC so each of the party has something to compaigñ with in the southeast.

The Southeast is now a level playing ground for both parties.

It is better that way. Let PDP get the votes in Kano and the votes of the entire south east would pale to little.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by tuniski: 11:16am On Nov 12, 2020
toluxe0075:
PDP is just a very unserious political party in this country. As soon as they lost the presidential power, they became complacent. No action or whatsoever to put the ruling party on their toes. Pdp is no different to ApC anyways. They are probably hoping to snatch power again and continue with their fuckery.
what are they supposed to do?
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 11:25am On Nov 12, 2020
emperor863:


A very big error of assumption. APC will win 2023 elections without the southeast if it is necessary. At the same time, APC will rule the country successfully with or without southeast support.

What is currently going on in Nigeria that you are gloating about (people of your extraction are usually happy when bad things are happening) is due to the political inexperience of Buhari and his morbid fear of military coup (having been removed from office once) that made him to appoint trusted persons who have parochial interest and therefore unsuitable for governance of a country as complex as Nigeria.

The next APC government will rule successfully with or without Igbo support just like GEJ ruled without the support of the southwest in 2011 - 2015.

Events of the last few weeks have indicated that PDP is ended. I need not say much on this for now.

Your analysis are not bad but APC is not sure to win in 2023 yet. .
Over the years of APC presidency they have lost a good number of their supporters due to bad governance.

You can agree with me that PDP recovered most of the positions they lost in 2015 during the 2019 election.

It all depends on the personalities that will be presented by both parties.

In an election that will produce candidates that are not as popular as buhari you can't be sure of who will win yet in both parties
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Okwyjesus(m): 11:39am On Nov 12, 2020
Moferere:
South East is overrated and the PDP know it.
Despite having their son on the ballot in 2019, South East gave PDP the least votes in the South.
And you think any reasonable party that's aware of high voter apathy in the East will give them its ticket?
Below is the score of PDP in the southern part of Nigeria in 2019.
South East — 1,693,485
South West — 1,776,670
South South — 2,231,232

Always remember that igbos are the most traveled tribe in Nigeria and majorly dont stay in their home state but that does not change their identity even in the poll.
l reside in Rivers as Igboman and l drove down to vote PDP alongside my wife even my younger brother told me he voted PDP also. So the south south votes you are counting includes igbos residing in those towns. Same with Lagos etc

Politics is changing. No be mailed vote Biden carry floor Trump

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 11:44am On Nov 12, 2020
tuniski:

It is better that way. Let PDP get the votes in Kano and the votes of the entire south east would pale to little.

Why are you having a myopic view?

The issue being discussed is not about presidency alone. Parties are also struggling to win more seats in the national assembly and more governorship seat across the country.

Every seat matters , as well as the presidency. There is no party that would like to lose any of the seat
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Jonathan39: 11:48am On Nov 12, 2020
You know nothing about Nigerian politics. So rigging is a joke to you? Even yardua was shocked by the kind of election fraud that brought him to power. No Matter who you vote for, the electoral body then will always have the final say, social media is now checkmating some of INEC excesses
Eastlink:
The SE are the cause of their political predicaments today. They lost the plot after the death of Zik. No matter how the pro-Biafran dumb bandwagon may want to paint Zik, he made sure the Igbos got their fair share in the power sharing equation. Any wonder why since 1993 no Igbo have come close to attaining the Presidential seat. Following the PDP stupidly was a political mistake that has come back to hunt Igbos.

Seeing that the PDP had no future for them from 1999 -2003, they should have joined any formidable party to send them packing. But that was never done. In 2003 when the opportunity presented itself they foolishly played the southern game by supporting Obasanjo instead of a Buhari with a SE running mate. They had the opportunity with Buhari/Okadigbo ANPP but cowardly supported Obasanjo. What did Obasanjo gift them in return, political death? The same Obasanjo is the godfather of MASSOB who has now metamorphosed to IPOB, a monster currently ravaging the Igbo nation.

The opportunity arose again in 2007 with Buhari / Umezuoke but still our people ignorantly sold their birthright supporting Yar’adua / GEJ. Though Yar’adua was fair to everyone, but fairness and sympathy votes don’t count in Nigeria.

The last opportunity came in 2015 when Buhari toured the SE for Igbo alliance. A zone that had stood with him since 2001, but what he saw made him weep. Seeing that he couldn't get it he looked to the SW. This was where Ndigbo shot themselves in the foot. Even when the likes of Rochas with his APGA faction along with Ogbonnaya Onu ANPP rallied Ndigbo to join the APC, the wicked PDP politicians of Igbo extraction called them outcast and continued dining with the PDP. What should have been a bargaining chip in the APC was sold on the alter of greed. By foolishly standing with GEJ in 2015, the SE sounded their political death knell.

Well, It’s never too late than never. The SE must leave the PDP in drove, either starting a new party or seek the fellowship of the APC. A people must have self-worth and not be easily swayed by emotions. This is the lesson.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by gwafaeziokwu: 11:53am On Nov 12, 2020
Preshob:



Thank you Sir!!! you holistically summarised everything. We Igbos are not fighting a short-term battle or a battle that'll benefit a selected few to the detriment of the larger population. We have our standards and live by them!!

grin

When you sit in a class filled with dundees over time you will start to doubt your intelligence. That is the dilemma of Ndigbo in today's Nigeria.

We are the oldest democracy on earth for a reason. We shouldn't allow cultures where democracy is alien teach us how it is done. Their noise might be loud but in the end through persistence we shall teach the black race what it truly means to be free.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by guychidile: 11:58am On Nov 12, 2020
future will tell
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Arrewa: 12:15pm On Nov 12, 2020
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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Moferere: 12:32pm On Nov 12, 2020
Okwyjesus:


Always remember that igbos are the most traveled tribe in Nigeria and majorly dont stay in their home state but that does not change their identity even in the poll.
l reside in Rivers as Igboman and l drove down to vote PDP alongside my wife even my younger brother told me he voted PDP also. So the south south votes you are counting includes igbos residing in those towns. Same with Lagos etc

Politics is changing. No be mailed vote Biden carry floor Trump

Hausa are well travelled too.
So, your excuse holds no water
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Moferere: 12:32pm On Nov 12, 2020
okpukpu:


South east...yes
Igbos... NO
Explain please
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Maobichek: 12:38pm On Nov 12, 2020
I read most comments here and I have the following submissions:
1. Op based his assertion on Ebony State governor's decamp to APC.
2, Op is not an Igbo man though he claimed to be Igbo.
3, He only insulted Igbos and desire like minds who helped via their comments.
4, Igbos prefer fairness in government policies to the office of the president. (Only Igbo politicians who have parochial interest would opine that Igbos want presidency more that fairness in policies administered in Nigeria).
5, Buhari has tried but hunger still persist in Nigeria .(EndSars protest is as a result of ppl's uncomfortable with the government, Igbos didn't start EndSars protest).
6, From majority of the comments here, the aim of this thread is to exhibit hate against Igbos.
In conclusion, People should stop fanning the ember of hate and tribalism, we need a better Nigeria and not tribalism and hate, thank you.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Lilswaggs: 12:43pm On Nov 12, 2020
The southern Nigeria always claims to be most educated, but for real, if this is how educated person behave, then I rather die a northern illiterate as u always claim.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 12:43pm On Nov 12, 2020
Moferere:


Hausa are well travelled too.
So, your excuse holds no water

Hausas always travel back to their place during election but igbos don't travel. They vote wherever they are so it is not the same thing please
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Giantfarmer(m): 12:45pm On Nov 12, 2020
Maobichek:
I read most comments here and I have the following submissions:
1. Op based his assertion on Ebony State governor's decamp to APC.
2, Op is not an Igbo man though he claimed to be Igbo.
3, He only insulted Igbos and desire like minds who helped via their comments.
4, Igbos prefer fairness in government policies to the office of the president. (Only Igbo politicians who have parochial interest would opine that Igbos want presidency more that fairness in policies administered in Nigeria).
5, Buhari has tried but hunger still persist in Nigeria .(EndSars protest is as a result of ppl's uncomfortable with the government, Igbos didn't start EndSars protest).
6, From majority of the comments here, the aim of this thread is to exhibit hate against Igbos.
In conclusion, People should stop fanning the ember of hate and tribalism, we need a better Nigeria and not tribalism and hate, thank you.
thank you well spoken

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Moferere: 12:45pm On Nov 12, 2020
nzeobi:

Oga its about vote ratio the zone gave to PDP and apc. And mind you some of votes pdp got in other zones also came from igbo dominated enclaves.
Irrespective of how you look at it, whether by ratio or numbers, Igbo are not getting it right.

They voted along a single line and majority of their people refused to vote.
Yoruba spread their votes.
If Atiku had won, Yoruba would have stood a better chance to demand for better positions than igbos
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Ogbuu101: 12:45pm On Nov 12, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


grin

Igbos rejection of APC is a bitter pill difficult to swallow for the egomaniacs.

They will taste it once more in 2023 and Igbos will be fine still. Once you are big you are big, anyone that thinks otherwise is on a long thing.

The have been dishing unsolicited political advice to us since 2015, we no even send. grin
Shebi na just 2 weeks into the lock down, yerobber ppl started wailing from Ore to Ilorin.
Formed 1 million boys, awawa boys, were looting bread vans but somehow they like to delude themselves they're any better than Igbos.
I jus de laugh them

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nwadiuto247: 12:47pm On Nov 12, 2020
Maobichek:
I read most comments here and I have the following submissions:
1. Op based his assertion on Ebony State governor's decamp to APC.
2, Op is not an Igbo man though he claimed to be Igbo.
3, He only insulted Igbos and desire like minds who helped via their comments.
4, Igbos prefer fairness in government policies to the office of the president. (Only Igbo politicians who have parochial interest would opine that Igbos want presidency more that fairness in policies administered in Nigeria).
5, Buhari has tried but hunger still persist in Nigeria .(EndSars protest is as a result of ppl's uncomfortable with the government, Igbos didn't start EndSars protest).
6, From majority of the comments here, the aim of this thread is to exhibit hate against Igbos.
In conclusion, People should stop fanning the ember of hate and tribalism, we need a better Nigeria and not tribalism and hate, thank you.

Why is it that when somebody differs with your own opinion you say he is not Igbo? Tufiakwa.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Ogbuu101: 12:49pm On Nov 12, 2020
haffaze777:


Thank you brother,May Allah continue to bless you
Allah people.
Potential beheaders and suicide bombers
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by nzeobi(m): 12:50pm On Nov 12, 2020
Moferere:

Irrespective of how you look at it, whether by ratio or numbers, Igbo are not getting it right.

They voted along a single line and majority of their people refused to vote.
Yoruba spread their votes.
If Atiku had won, Yoruba would have stood a better chance to demand for better positions than igbos
Lol, core northern states have always voted buhari since 2003, nothing like spreading of votes to them.
How would yoruba have stood better chances if pdp have won when we know the tribe that Gave pdp majority of the votes in lagos.
Am telling you that SE gave pdp about 70-75% of the total valid votes cast and yoruba gave him around 45 %.
So who has more bagging power.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Moferere: 12:59pm On Nov 12, 2020
nzeobi:

Lol, core northern states have always voted buhari since 2003, nothing like spreading of votes to them.
How would yoruba have stood better chances if pdp have won when we know the tribe that Gave pdp majority of the votes in lagos.
Am telling you that SE gave pdp about 70-75% of the total valid votes cast and yoruba gave him around 45 %.
So who has more bagging power.

What parameters did you use to arrive at the conclusion that majority of the PDP votes in Lagos were cast by Igbos?

You see, you are going the way of your elders. This is how they do their permutations and that is why Igbos have been victims of every elections.

I reside in Abuja, every election, we mobilise ourselves and travel back to the West.
South Southerners too travel back home, majority of hausa people in the south too travel back home.

You know why? Because we know that at the end of the day, when negotiations start it will be about how many votes did your state give our party?


Not how many votes did Igbos in Lagos give pdp in Lagos.

That sound dumb
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by nzeobi(m): 1:00pm On Nov 12, 2020
Moferere:

Irrespective of how you look at it, whether by ratio or numbers, Igbo are not getting it right.

They voted along a single line and majority of their people refused to vote.
Yoruba spread their votes.
If Atiku had won, Yoruba would have stood a better chance to demand for better positions than igbos
What is the voter turn out % in se compared to other regions

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by ThatFairGuy: 1:03pm On Nov 12, 2020
Oriakku:
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(1) Helinues

(2) Arrewa.

(3) Thatfairguy.

(4) Ngpatroit


Nairalanders should expect their pictures displayed here on this forum soon. We've gotten their pictures and we are waiting for them to misbehave.
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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Moferere: 1:07pm On Nov 12, 2020
nzeobi:

What is the voter turn out % in se compared to other regions

Check for yourself and revert.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by nzeobi(m): 1:10pm On Nov 12, 2020
Moferere:


Check for yourself and revert.
It's an assignment for you.

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Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by StrongInBed: 1:11pm On Nov 12, 2020
Eastlink:
I expected your arrival. You no dey use eye see Igbo topic. Hope you’ll bring along the following monikers you use to quote and requote yourself.

1. Osagyefo
2. NnewiSuper
3. Chino
4. Oneeast
5. OkpalaAnambra
6. Melezenawi
7. Arrewa
8. Ekpeitit
9. Nsiba
10. Idenna

And over 100 monikers.

Leave the useless assholes that want to gain cheap popularity with Igbo issues, we are not their mates, they see us like the red Indians sees the white men in 1775.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nchenches: 1:18pm On Nov 12, 2020
fk001:


What makes you think Nigeria has 3 regions instead of 2 or 6 zones?

Is criminal to tag the whole north as a single zone/ region or whatever while south as two. The north has more tribes than the south, the north is more diverse than the south. Just because they adopted Hausa as their lingua franca that doesn't mean North is single tribe if that's the case then south that adopted Pigieon as their lingua franca should also be called one regardless of tribe.


3 regions formed Nigeria, not 2, in 1960.

The later proliferation of 20 new states in the northern region, but 17 states in the 2 southern regions, by northern military dictators, automatically shifted absolute powers and economic advantages to the northern region.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by QuotaSystem: 1:19pm On Nov 12, 2020
Nchenches:
.

A presidential candidate must win 25% of votes in 24 states before proclaimed winner. No presidential candidate from the south can win, unless anointed by Fulani as stooge.


Not anointed.

But Co-operative like the SW and not antagonistic like you Igbos are. Even the SS are now more politically relevant.

Your Fulani/Arewa hating is plain political suicide.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by QuotaSystem: 1:23pm On Nov 12, 2020
Nchenches:



3 regions formed Nigeria, not 2, in 1960.

The later proliferation of 20 new states in the northern region, but 17 states in the 2 southern regions, by northern military dictators, automatically shifted absolute powers and economic advantages to the northern region.


Keep quiet.

2 regions were amalgamated in 1914.

The North is 3 regions like the South is 3 regions if you feel like micro zoning.

You can only fool yourself.
Re: How PDP Is Losing It In The Southeast. by Nchenches: 1:23pm On Nov 12, 2020
QuotaSystem:


Not anointed.

But Co-operative like the SW and not antagonistic like you Igbos are. Even the SS are now more politically relevant.

Your Fulani/Arewa hating is plain political suicide.


Did Yoruba not commit political suicide by voting Buhari that Yoruba rejected for 12 years before 2014 Tinubu misadventure?

How come Amotekun now consuming large chunks of federal allocations to Yoruba states?

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