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Amah70:
Shorrup on NL. Igbo tribe is not reduced by anyone to anything. Stop writing useless nonsense in saying that a tribe is begging another tribe to join the other tribe. Meaningmess. Go and find a job. Wike or Nwike is on politics of 2023 - fighting Amaechi, distancing himself from Igbo. He is on a futile chase for Aso Rock. Even if they appoint him to Aso Rock, he can’t succeed there. You have no head to understand that.

Igbo amaka.

Amah70:
Shorrup on NL. Igbo tribe is not reduced by anyone to anything. Stop writing useless nonsense in saying that a tribe is begging another tribe to join the other tribe. Meaningmess. Go and find a job. Wike or Nwike is on politics of 2023 - fighting Amaechi, distancing himself from Igbo. He is on a futile chase for Aso Rock. Even if they appoint him to Aso Rock, he can’t succeed there. You have no head to understand that.

Igbo amaka.

IKWERE NOR BE BIA-FRAUD

Ogbuu101:
Oga,you mustn't argue everything.
Most of you have never spent more than 2 weeks outside your state but una go de pontificate on things you don't know.
There is a sizeable population of indigenous Yorubas in Edo state.
I shared a flat wt one of them once and got to know many of them.

Igboid:
Don't get it confused

Uche Okwukwu and other opportunistic Ikwerres are all part of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo because Ohanaeze is a useless organization that is obsolete and not in sync with modernity which exactly why the organization has no grassroot support in Igbo land.

Even as UK pulled out of EU, if the EU leaders are stupid enough to make an opportunistic English man claiming to be anti Brexit the Secretary general of EU with the pay package and power that comes with it,do you think such British will decline? The answer is No.
But does EU making an English man the Secretary general of EU change the fact that the British back home have no interest in being part of EU.

That Uche Okwukwu an Ikwerre man is even allowed to be part of Ohanaeze let alone rise to post of Secretary general is a testament to how useless Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is as an organization.
No Ikwerre or any one whose majority of his people are Igbophobic should be part of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo if the organization is a serious one.

So you IPOB should stop quoting this Uche Okwukwu,because you are only underlying the failure of Igbo leadership as epitomized by Ohanaeze when you use Uche Okwukwu as example of Ikwerre being Igbo.

oyatz:
From the ways I see it, Ikwerre looks like a hybrid of tribes or an amalgam of several ancient smaller tribes +Igbo settlers+ Bini migrants+ Ijawa and/Ogoni minorities.

Dedetwo:
The same Elechi Amadi enlisted into Nigerian army as Igbo. He ran from Kaduna to Enugu in 1966 as Igbo officer. He became the vice principal of Asa High School under Onwuma as Igbo. However when Elechi Amadi sneaked back to Nigeria after the fall Igweocha (Port Harcourt), he remembered he was not inIgbo.

Igboid:
I wonder what other reply some of us are expecting from Ikwerres.
Obio/Akpor people have representatives in Ogbakor Ikwerre and we know the official position of Ogbakor Ikwerre on Ikwerre identity. Its a Biniphilic one.

I'm ashamed with some of our people on how we have handled this issue.

Normally Ohanaeze Ndiigbo should have since released official public message denouncing Ikwerre and follow it up with sacking all the Ikwerre leeches in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo, and then warning the Nigerian public that any Ikwerre claiming Igbo are committing impersonation.

AnanseK:
So now is Northerners that are causing disunity? You used to say that Northerners forced you to stay in Nigeria.

Why don’t you just go. You don’t have to destroy the rest of the country as you destroyed Lagos. Just go.

oyatz:
Not all those who fought for Biafra were Igbos.

gidgiddy:
Lets not get things twisted, the argument about Ikwerre and Igbos has been an ongoing thing long before there was anything called IPOB. Everybody is free to choose whatever identity they want. The problem is when some people cannot stick to one identity. I used the example of Chibuike Amaechi and Uche Okwukwu because they are well know Ikwerre men who say the are Igbo. The reality is that there are many Ikwerres out there, particularly in the Elele axis, who say they are Igbo.

I said it on another thread that my friend is dating an Ikwerre girl who doesnt joke with her Igboness, but the girls uncle who is also an Ikwerre man, says they are not Igbos. If there are Ikwerres who say they are Igbo, and those who say they are not, they should all go sort out the identity crisis that has engulfed them.

It is very important because there is no way to tell the difference between any Igbo and Ikwerre, they speak the same language and answer the same names.

Racoon:
There is no where I forced the Igbo identity on Wike.I simply draw from the historical fact that there are some Igbos who are Ikwerre by nature.

Any of them who wish not to identify with the Igbo identity it is their own cup of tea(identity crisis). After all, there are also Igbos in other parts of the world who would not want to be known as such.

So be guided in your senseless vertuperations.I guess you are related to the our satanic brother-the notorious Col.Frank Omenka of the inglorious DMI day during the Abacha regime?
cc: Lalasticlala, OAM4J Mynd44

TheLionofLasigi:
Emeka and his bearded wife are sad at this news

samuk:
Claiming Ikwerre is Igbo is an extension of colonial mentality. The British came and merged formerly independent kingdoms and empire together without their consent or agreement and named them Nigeria. The people are still suffering the effects of this forced marriage or amalgamation.

Following on from the British colonial experiment, Nigeria early political actors started bringing groups together to form larger tribes for their own political interest. Majority of those that are loosely referred to Hausa today are not really Hausas but former independent tribes that were forcibly conquered by the northern political forces, even when these tribes protests not to be Hausas, no one is really interested. The Yoruba have been more successful compared to the Igbos.

The Igbos are having serious problems in building a larger political conglomerate comparable to the Hausa and the Yoruba because of several factors, firstly the lost of the civil war took the shine of the Igbo identity and secondly some of the tribes they are trying to annexed have links with the classical Benin empire and histories spanning hundreds of years. These tribes have become distinctive and independent under the Benin empire and don't see the need to give up their proud heritage and acquire a new Igbo identity that is much younger than theirs.

The Igbos don't currently offer or have enough incentives for these tribes to want to lose their identity for the larger Igbo political interest. The Hausa and Yoruba have ensured that Igbo remained politically irrelevant since the end of the civil war, the Igbos are still being seen as losers by the wider Nigeria.

Some of the champions of these larger tribes are those whose tribes didn't archive much in the past and are now trying to hide under a larger group identity to lord it over those with princely heritage. Awolowo who probably did more than any other to unite the Yorubas was from Ijebu subgroup of the Yoruba, before the creation of one Yoruba conglomerate, history records the Ijebus as the tribe the Benin people preferred as sacrifices to their river gods. Whilst the Ijesha was sacrificed by the Ife people.

Today's Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo are all artificial polical creations just like Nigeria herself with little or no historical heritage links between the people that make up these groups or the various tribes that agreed to the groups identify.

TheLionofLasigi:
But the igbos on the other hand can be really overbearing....you stay in someone's land, he doesn't attack you or rape your wives because of tribal reasons, you do business in his land, he even sells land to you which even most SS won't even do, you even hold your traditional festivals in his land which you dare not do in places like kano, you prosper in his land but for some reason you see him as an enemy and[b] turn around calling his land "no man's land[/b]".....

Igbos should really look inwards and refine somethings about themselves, there's a reason for the hate you get in South Africa, Ghana, Guinea and even your SS cousins...apart from this I hope they produce a credible leader come 2023 that would push for restructuring.

Buchitoochi:
I feel so happy whenever I hear that the Ikwerres are not Igbo. The reason is bcuz I don't want a lazy and backward people to be identified as belonging to the very intelligent and smart tribe known as Igbo. Attaching them to the Igbos twill make them feel important and give them a huge value. The ikwerres are not Igbo bcuz Igbos are not lazy and wretched. We are rich. It only the Igbos of Delta State that are truly Igbo. Despite being in oil rich Rivers State the ikwerres can not boast of a handful of rich and great people.Apart from Peter odili, Herbert Nwigwe and a few other that got money and greatness through hooliganism and politics who are the ikwerres are lagging behind every other people in Nigeria. They don't be language. They can't dominate any ppl or in any thing in River State, not to talk of Nigeria. The Igbos are the most blessed tribe in Nigeria, Even in Africa. One day Nigerians will be civilised and jettison the indigenship and embrace citizenship. At that time other tribes will will be dominated by the Igbos. We will (just like the Fulanis and d Jews) dominate Africa. You would find Igbo governor in Kano, Bauchi,Lagos Oyo. Etc. We will buy Rivers State and Chase the useless lots away. By then nobody will claim ownership of any cities or land bcuz it will belong to any rich, smart and enterprising ppl. Parochialism will be obsolete. Ppl will then realize the importance of being an Igbo. We will control Africa just like the Jews

HAccord:
Ndigbo have to start being very assertive in politics with minorities, our carefree biri kam biri attitude is attracting a lot of insults from some of these hopeless minorities lately.

Join the the Fulani and Yorubas in dominating and asserting yourselves politically over minorities. That's how to treat minorities in Nigeria, if you give them an inch, they'll be asking for your father's hectare.

Igboid:
But it ensures they don't benefit from any advantage being a member of EU confers, right?

Kirchoffs:
FYI any right thinking individual knows that the north is the number one problem of Nigeria.

Underdeveloped, backward thinking, vile , bloodthirsty are some of the subtle adjectives that can be used to qualify you people....Am a full blooded westerner and all your gimmicks of trying to cause discord among southerners has been well noted...

oyatz:
[s]Apart from boasting online, there is nothing Igbos can do against them politically.

They have their own States, on the basis of which they can become Governors, Senators,Ministers on their own without Igbos having a say in it.

Fortunately for them, their States have better economic status than Igbo States (compare budgets & IGR of Rivers Vs Anambra or Imo States) making them to have better political leverages.

Wike will not be this powerful if he is the Governor of a poorer State like Enugu or Abia State with lesser resources to fund the opposition party, the PDP.

If they can win the primaries of a major political parties like the PDP or APC, they can also become President with little or no support from the Igbos.


The creation of States and a different Geopolitical zone for the Southern Minorities has removed them beyond the domination by Igbos.

In Summary: Wike understands their freedom from Igbos and he is making it obvious[/s]

AnanseK:
Rubbish. Why don’t you leave with your friends the Biafrans that destroyed most of lagos?

Racoon:
Governor Wike have the right to his ethnic identity but must never forget that hating on the Igbo tribe does not in any way make us less Igbos.Ken Saro-Wiwa & the Ogonis made the same mistake but till today they are regretting it.

We must not agree in all things but there are some things that intersect all of us-oppression & marginalization by a common enemy

HAccord:
Oyaburukurudeen our yorrubar muslim lamentationist , we are not the ones jumping from one media house to another shouting 'I am not killing Igbos o! and inviting and begging and bribing Igbo governors and Ohaneze to plead with their people to save his political hide.

Osawike Nyesomwen have not slept in days after the Obigbo fall out. The reaction shock am. He don turn liability to PDP overnight. Umahi sef don leave am jump ship. He knows that if they don't cut Osawike lose, the party go sink finally.

Osawike should consider contesting local government chairman in Ikwerreland iwuhuruosaland in 2023. That's his best bet now.

Omezif:
This man is very smart using that name wike since gathering votes thinking that igbo doesn't know what they are doing, now he want to tell us he's not vomiting trash.

oyatz:
This is not how to debate issues intelligently.

You ought to dispute the points I raised.

bigfish3k:
If they understand each other like the igbos and Ikweres then the comparison will make sense

hammerDK:
I KEEP SAYING IT, YOU ARE NOT OBJECTIVE.



AN OBJECTIVE PERSON, WILL KNOW THAT WHAT WIKE SAYS, DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING AS FAR AS IKWERE ARE CONCERNED.



THAT WAS JUST HIS OPINION AND NOT FACT.



BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE RULED BY YOUR EMOTION, YOU RUSH TO SEND IT TO FP.



WHILST AN OBJECTIVE PERSON WOULD HAVE PLAYED WITH IT AND MADE THINGS MORE INTERESTING BY SENDING THE THREAD WHERE AMAECHI TOLD WIKE TO STOP DENYING HE IS IGBO.



KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT AMAECHI AN IKWERE MAN AND FORMER GOVERNOR OF RIVERS CLAIMS TO BE IGBO.



NOW THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING. cc seun, oam4j





https://www.nairaland.com/6238128/ameachi-wike-youre-igbo-stop/3#95829229

Nchenches:
If Ebitu Ukiwe can ever subdue the lopsided political structure of Nigeria and emerge presidential candidate of APC or PDP, your north can’t vote him so long as another northern presidential candidate is in opposition party.

Stop selling oil snake to protect dysfunctional one Nigeria that gives you in the north more economic and political advantages over any group in the south.

Kick for political restructuring of Nigeria to true and fiscal federalism, before Nigeria splits peacefully or violently. You are not confusing anyone. No angel can emerge from the present political structure of Nigeria to lead Nigeria to prosperity.

Obi1kenobi:
Ah.......Asari Dokubo, the famed Harvard historian. For all your intellectual posturing, you're quite the trolling buffoon, aren't you? Do you care to cite this time that we "Isuoma" were the "erstwhile slaves" of Ikwerres?

Organs:
Again you want to boast about Ukiwe now and still point fingers abi. Ok, news for you, Nigerians voted in Abiola, mostly Northerners. Northerners voted in OBJ in 1999. Igbos do not support those with Nationalistic ideas. They did not support Ukiwe or Ekwueme. They will rather throw insults and point finger, claim superiority, boasts, beat chest, meanwhile, they still stay in the same situation.

Organs:
Again you want to boast about Ukiwe now and still point fingers abi. Ok, news for you, Nigerians voted in Abiola, mostly Northerners. Northerners voted in OBJ in 1999. Igbos do not support those with Nationalistic ideas. They did not support Ukiwe or Ekwueme. They will rather throw insults and point finger, claim superiority, boasts, beat chest, meanwhile, they still stay in the same situation.

aribisala0:
The Ikwerre attended the Willinks commission before 1960. Before Wike was born go and find out why and what they had to say

This started long before Wike


Of all the Igbo groups how come Ikwerre are the only ones that were individually represented at the Willinks Commission??