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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nobody: 3:39pm On Nov 13, 2020
Sunly:
Hi i need recommendations for a private uni. I have igbinedion in mind, but i heard they had issues with accreditation.
check private uni in the south west. Babcock, bingham, bowen, abuad and co. thanks.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Sunly: 4:00pm On Nov 13, 2020
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Sunly: 9:07pm On Nov 13, 2020
Sunly:
Hi i need recommendations for a private uni. I have igbinedion in mind, but i heard they had issues with accreditation.
Does anyone know much about Igbinedion?
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by militarydoctor: 9:37am On Nov 14, 2020
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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by drajjay: 5:08pm On Nov 16, 2020
DrImmaculate:


Used to be same story here in Uniben until they lost accreditation in 2008 or thereabouts... Unn should just beware! it's like they are tired of the precise 6 years they spend for their medical training. They lose accreditation and it becomes 7 like Uniben and Uniport, not to mention the external delays.
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Dr Drajjay, it's been a while.. you must be in your finals now
Yea long time. I'm suppose to be doing my housemanship now but covid and ASUU held us down. How about you.?

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrImmaculate(m): 7:02am On Nov 17, 2020
drajjay:
Yea long time. I'm suppose to be doing my housemanship now but covid and ASUU held us down. How about you.?

Your boy is just starting ooo.. I'm in my 2nd year anyways.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by drajjay: 8:13am On Nov 17, 2020
DrImmaculate:


Your boy is just starting ooo.. I'm in my 2nd year anyways.
ok goodluck to you on this journey.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nobody: 10:52am On Nov 17, 2020
can someone share experience of any work he or she did while in sch to at least earn a token for upkeep pls

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by dtyla(m): 1:00pm On Nov 18, 2020
Please i need your honest replies to this question, if you had the means to afford a private university in Nigeria, would you apply to a private rather than a public university?
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by dtyla(m): 1:02pm On Nov 18, 2020
militarydoctor:
Good day Lads and Lasses.
I recently Gained admission into Bingham University to study Medicine and Surgery.
Pls who can help with their course outline for 100L?

I do not know their course outline, but could you please enlighten me about how to get admitted and their fees...
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by SirWarlock: 1:31pm On Nov 18, 2020
dtyla:
Please i need your honest replies to this question, if you had the means to afford a private university in Nigeria, would you apply to a private rather than a public university?
Yeah I need good takes on this especially concerning MBBS

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Protein0: 1:47pm On Nov 18, 2020
dtyla:
Please i need your honest replies to this question, if you had the means to afford a private university in Nigeria, would you apply to a private rather than a public university?
Once the private university has accreditation for mbbs,YES!

Forget about those misconceptions or baseless talks about how govt schools (especially federal govt schools) are the next things after bread and butter.
Na past glory.

Most old medical schools still use material resources they used for our parents and maybe grandparents too.

The only thing that can be spoken of is human resources and most of these lecturers in govt schools go to lecture in private schools, better behaved in the private schools sef. grin grin
Meanwhile, I personally believe that every accredited medical school has the mix of lecturers capable of offering you the stuffs you can build on to become a good medical doctor.
Note this, medical schools only produce doctors, to become a good doctor is an absolute individual choice.


Is it student to resources ratio you want to talk of, or condition of facilities or calendar or the kind of connection you can establish in private schools?

If money isn't a factor, I would choose an ACCREDITED private medical school over and over again

However, from a medipreneur point of view, PLAB or USMLE should be your target once you attend a private med school.
The renumeration here compared to the cost of a private medical education is highly frustrating.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DarkPheonix: 7:25pm On Nov 18, 2020
dtyla:
Please i need your honest replies to this question, if you had the means to afford a private university in Nigeria, would you apply to a private rather than a public university?
If you can afford private university, please don't even think twice about going to a public university.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DarkPheonix: 7:30pm On Nov 18, 2020
Sunly:
Hi i need recommendations for a private uni. I have igbinedion in mind, but i heard they had issues with accreditation.
If you can afford to pay 1.8 million per session, you can consider applying to Edo university, but you will also be paying 300k for hostel and also from 300lvl you will be paying additional 500k for clinical fee.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by dtyla(m): 8:01pm On Nov 18, 2020
DarkPheonix:

If you can afford private university, please don't even think twice about going to a public university.

Thanks!
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by dtyla(m): 8:03pm On Nov 18, 2020
Protein0:

Once the private university has accreditation for mbbs,YES!

Forget about those misconceptions or baseless talks about how govt schools (especially federal govt schools) are the next things after bread and butter.
Na past glory.

Most old medical schools still use material resources they used for our parents and maybe grandparents too.

The only thing that can be spoken of is human resources and most of these lecturers in govt schools go to lecture in private schools, better behaved in the private schools sef. grin grin
Meanwhile, I personally believe that every accredited medical school has the mix of lecturers capable of offering you the stuffs you can build on to become a good medical doctor.
Note this, medical schools only produce doctors, to become a good doctor is an absolute individual choice.


Is it student to resources ratio you want to talk of, or condition of facilities or calendar or the kind of connection you can establish in private schools?

If money isn't a factor, I would choose an ACCREDITED private medical school over and over again

However, from a medipreneur point of view, PLAB or USMLE should be your target once you attend a private med school.
The renumeration here compared to the cost of a private medical education is highly frustrating.

Thanks for your enlightening reply.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by HumanCalc: 8:21pm On Nov 18, 2020
Protein0:

Once the private university has accreditation for mbbs,YES!

Forget about those misconceptions or baseless talks about how govt schools (especially federal govt schools) are the next things after bread and butter.
Na past glory.

Most old medical schools still use material resources they used for our parents and maybe grandparents too.

The only thing that can be spoken of is human resources and most of these lecturers in govt schools go to lecture in private schools, better behaved in the private schools sef. grin grin
Meanwhile, I personally believe that every accredited medical school has the mix of lecturers capable of offering you the stuffs you can build on to become a good medical doctor.
Note this, medical schools only produce doctors, to become a good doctor is an absolute individual choice.


Is it student to resources ratio you want to talk of, or condition of facilities or calendar or the kind of connection you can establish in private schools?

If money isn't a factor, I would choose an ACCREDITED private medical school over and over again

However, from a medipreneur point of view, PLAB or USMLE should be your target once you attend a private med school.
The renumeration here compared to the cost of a private medical education is highly frustrating.
Well crafted words sir. What you said about Plab and USMLE is very valid but I think all interested medical students should always apply for plab or USMLE if they are capable even the government school graduates cos what these guys don't pay in cash, they pay 10 folds in stress.

By the way, I didn't know that the famous protein0 is a medic oo. Boss abeg can you help secure an iPhone 6s plus 32gb deal. I have been looking for it all over NL. Got someone that want to buy it.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by militarydoctor: 12:21pm On Nov 19, 2020
dtyla:


I do not know their course outline, but could you please enlighten me about how to get admitted and their fees...
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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by OwoukoUrua(m): 6:15pm On Nov 19, 2020
HumanCalc:
Well crafted words sir. What you said about Plab and USMLE is very valid but I think all interested medical students should always apply for plab or USMLE if they are capable even the government school graduates cos what these guys don't pay in cash, they pay 10 folds in stress.

By the way, I didn't know that the famous protein0 is a medic oo. Boss abeg can you help secure an iPhone 6s plus 32gb deal. I have been looking for it all over NL. Got someone that want to buy it.

Even me shock o!

Na motivation sha

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Obton(m): 7:26pm On Nov 22, 2020
bolaji1023:
i had 12 pts in ijmb which school should i choosre for mbbs between aau ekpoma and uniabuja.i am from kogi state

Just forget about AAU. There's not going to be any admission into MBBS this year. Everyone that initially applied were adviced to change their course.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Lordsagna: 7:51pm On Nov 25, 2020
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I was on my way to work that morning though I was not feeling too well myself. I was on antimalaria drugs. I would have taken sick leave but many doctors had gone on leave in the department already so if I went on another leave, it would really affect the number of patients we could attend to.


I received a call from one of my patients asking if I was in the hospital so that he could come and see me he was not feeling fine. As I answered him on phone he noticed my voice was cracking somehow so he asked me "Dr Ade you sound somehow like you are not feeling fine" I answered him yes I am having malaria. I am on antimalarial drugs."


He jokingly laughed and said "sorry o so you doctors too fall sick?I thought you people were immune or better still the sicknesses already knew you people as their boss they dont come near you people." I mustered strength to laugh and answer him "we are not gods o,neither are we immortal, doctors fall sick,doctors die,we develop cancers,we develop depression,we have hypertension.In fact many times it is even worse as many of us forget to do check up on our health every day,every week and every year.



We do forget our lives, busy saving other lives. We do forget *to check even the basic tests* until we come down with high blood pressure or stroke or high blood sugar. This is our story as medical doctors. It is unbelievable to tell you that we dont even have enough time to *do exercise and* get those benefits that we *counsel* and *educate* people to keep doing and *getting* the benefits. A *typical* medical doctor gets to work 7am, *enters* theatre, *starts* operation, *do* like 7 operations, finishes around 4 pm *and* if he is the same doctor on evening call that day, he continues attending to patients till 8 am the following day.

Then *he rushes to take his bath in one bathroom inside the hospital and continues that day's work without going home and no* break fast until later in the afternoon. This is the fate and plight of so many doctors all over the world. Do you know if the call is a weekend call the doctor continues this marathon of not going home till monday evening of following week and may not even get enough good food to eat."

The patient was really touched but jokingly again said "wow sorry o Dr Ade but you people's money is heavy alert so it will make up for all the stress." I laughed at the issue of medical doctors getting heavy money alerts. I told him I said "may be in some countries like Saudi Arabia or like canada or united states, medical doctors' remuneration and conditions of service are far better than developing countries that are in a sorry state. Local government chairmen in Nigeria will buy a medical doctor with all his family and he will feed them for 10 years without stepping into any office to work. Not to talk of governors,senators or president and their appointees at local,state and federal government levels.

He was shocked . He asked in amazement "doctor you dont mean it? I think *politicians collect almost the same amount of money you doctors collect.*" I laughed out loud again and still laughing as I entered the hospital that morning. I ended the discussion with him by telling him "We are like you patients in all ramifications, the only edge we have over you is our knowledge of the diseases and the cure we apply to ourselves but despite this,we still fall like all mortals sir." The patient actually felt for me.He greeted me passionately. Wishing me quick recovery. He bid me temporary good bye till we would see later.

I got to my office area. Despite my not feeling too well, hundreds of patients were already sitting in the waiting area in front of my office. They were so happy to see me that I had come to save their lives whereas I was struggling to save mine too. This is the irony of life of many medical doctors. They all heartily greeted me "Dr Ade good morning, you are highly welcome sir. How is family?". Some had even stood up to start telling me one thing or the other before I even opened my door to drop my bag. As I was listening to some of them with side complaints before I started the day work, I saw the matron arranging them, shouting at the top of her voice, same with the the medical records personnel trying to organise and control the crowd. I sighed I said God this is the situation in our various hospitals all over the nation, every day. What do you think it would be? when 200 million people wait for 40,000 medical doctors to attend to them. So you can begin to imagine the health gap. *It is really heart breaking and shattering.*

I entered my office to drop my bag and quickly checked on my colleague who was on call overnight, his name was Dr Victor. At least let me hear how the overnight call went with him. Hope he was able to have a little rest. As I got to the delivery room, I saw him running up and down to save the life of one pregnant woman who delivered twins at home and was rushed down to the hospital bleeding seriously. I joined him in running from pillar to post . I joined him in raising more bags of blood to transfuse to the woman. We were rushing her to the theartre,calling Anasthetists, to get ready for the emergency. Everybody was doing all they could in their own fields to save this patient's life.

Tranfusion of blood was ongoing as we were trying to stop the bleeding. Drips were being given. Drugs to close the womb were being given. We were checking for any tears in her birth canal. Patient started losing consciousness due to the huge amount of blood she had lost after the delivery at home and on her way to hospital in hold up. The patient had 9 children before this twin delivery, making it 11 children. We tried all we could do in the ward. Then we rushed her to the theatre considering the option of removing her womb since all the ways to stop the bleeding didn't work, our last option was to remove her womb to save her life. As we entered theatre, before we could even raise a knife,she breathed her last. The silence was loud. The sorrow was heavy.Everything came to an halt. The long silence was broken by Dr Victor crying. He broke down in tears. Everybody's eyes fixed on the empathic doctor,who did all he could do to save the life of a mother of 11 but lost the battle. I said *"DOCTOR VICTOR STOP CRYING YOU DID YOUR BEST"*. He was unconsolable.

He started telling me all the efforts he made since the patient was brought 4 hours earlier. How he had gone to blood bank more than 11 times.How he had run to pharmacy to get drips and injection drugs himself to save time. How he had called many other doctors for help for blood donation. The patient took up to 6 blood bags before succumbing to the call of nature.I held his hands and took him to my consulting room.I counselled him and deeply felt for him.I pleaded with him to go home and rest. The rest of us continued the day work. As Dr Victor stepped out of my consulting room to go home, many lessons engulfed my mind both from my feeling sick and still working; to the frustration of Dr victor not being able to save that woman.

Let me share the lessons with you

Lesson number 1:

Many doctors and other health workers I have met in the course of my training and practice have human feelings. They sacrifice their lives everyday in exchange for their patients. They sacrifice their family time to save other families. May God bless all the DEDICATED doctors and health workers worlwide who truly sacrifice daily to keep others sound and safe.

Lesson number 2:

This is my admonition to all doctors and other health workers all over the world. Please do your best to save your patients and stay with them till the end if the end has indeed come. There are some battles you will not win,learn to know and live with this. Even if you will love to save all,some will still go because destiny call must be answered. So please learn to accept what you can't change. Learn to let go when the maker said no and dont see it as a failure on your part as far as you have done your best. The best of doctor cannot stop death when God has said time up.

Lesson number 3:

Doctors and other health workers,learn to attend to your own health in order to be alive for your patients. A dead doctor cannot save a sick patient.If you are sick, see other doctors and present yourself as a patient and stop self treatment. Be taken care of. You also have family that their lives and livelihood depend on you.

Lesson number 4:

Patients please stop attributing God's status to doctors and other health workers. They are as human as you. The fall. They fail. They cry. They mourn. They are not immune to any diseases you are prone to. Doctors die of cancer, depression and stroke.

Please patients, care for your doctors too especially when they at their lows. Show that you too care about them,not only one way. Doctors appreciate caring patients too.

Thank you for your time for reading this true life story. I hope you have learnt one or two lessons from it.



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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Racemate(f): 4:20pm On Nov 26, 2020
i had 288 in utme am i good to go for mbbs in usmanu danfodio from kwara state
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by alfredo1(m): 7:07pm On Nov 26, 2020
Racemate:
i had 288 in utme am i good to go for mbbs in usmanu danfodio from kwara state
288 is a fair score. Keep praying.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Froshchuksswart(m): 5:27am On Nov 27, 2020
Protein0:

Once the private university has accreditation for mbbs,YES!

Forget about those misconceptions or baseless talks about how govt schools (especially federal govt schools) are the next things after bread and butter.
Na past glory.

Most old medical schools still use material resources they used for our parents and maybe grandparents too.

The only thing that can be spoken of is human resources and most of these lecturers in govt schools go to lecture in private schools, better behaved in the private schools sef. grin grin
Meanwhile, I personally believe that every accredited medical school has the mix of lecturers capable of offering you the stuffs you can build on to become a good medical doctor.
Note this, medical schools only produce doctors, to become a good doctor is an absolute individual choice.


Is it student to resources ratio you want to talk of, or condition of facilities or calendar or the kind of connection you can establish in private schools?

If money isn't a factor, I would choose an ACCREDITED private medical school over and over again

However, from a medipreneur point of view, PLAB or USMLE should be your target once you attend a private med school.
The renumeration here compared to the cost of a private medical education is highly frustrating.


Why are yuh studying medicine passion or money,if it's because of money you will be disappointed on the long run
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Protein0: 6:52am On Nov 27, 2020
Froshchuksswart:



Why are yuh studying medicine passion or money,if it's because of money you will be disappointed on the long run
Smiles. Water is wet!
Passion won't feed on air. Passion for a particular field of study, especially medicine, is grossly misunderstood.
What do you think will be the fate of the passion of someone who got a medical degree for N20m+ only to be paid with CONMESS?
Meanwhile, a significant number of medics thought they had passion for medicine till after house job grin grin
Who will be more disappointed than someone who felt he had passion for a job for which he's being poorly remunerated? The facilities available for him to enjoy his passion are grossly limited. Patients will hate him, patients' relatives will curse him. Other health workers will beef him. Govt will owe him. His "passion" will laugh at him. He will be grossly demoralised with battered morale, him self go hate himself.

There is what I call the economics of real passion in third world countries cheesy cheesy

A child that can conveniently be given a private medical education will definitely have to keep getting stipends from home if he end up with govt work here in Nigeria because CONMESS will most likely not be enough to fund his average lifestyle.
Something must keep the passion alive for a course as demanding as medicine, else, na easy ride into depression.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nickshrapnel: 9:04am On Nov 27, 2020
Froshchuksswart:



Why are yuh studying medicine passion or money,if it's because of money you will be disappointed on the long run

Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by khingTony(m): 9:19am On Nov 27, 2020
Froshchuksswart:



Why are yuh studying medicine passion or money,if it's because of money you will be disappointed on the long run
Ogbeni, forget all these talks of passion and the rest, Both of us know that if a doctor is being paid 10,000 naira monthly, or makes less than 15K in private practice, the cut off mark to get MBBS in any federal university will be 150 because the number of applicants will be less than 100


So, you are studying dentistry today, it's because you know that there is a high chance that you'll get employed and be paid well in the future, or else, you'll probably be better off studying engineering or music

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Nobody: 12:26pm On Nov 27, 2020
All these chiefs and bosses way dey talk passion go just dey make somebori to laugh grin grin
like say dangote get passion to be producing cement grin . if you know you'll make it big in healthcare delivery please don't hesitate abeg grin


passion ko passionate ni grin

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by pegix(m): 12:41pm On Nov 27, 2020
khingTony:

Ogbeni, forget all these talks of passion and the rest, Both of us know that if a doctor is being paid 10,000 naira monthly, or makes less than 15K in private practice, the cut off mark to get MBBS in any federal university will be 150 because the number of applicants will be less than 100


So, you are studying dentistry today, it's because you know that there is a high chance that you'll get employed and be paid well in the future, or else, you'll probably be better off studying engineering or music

I don talk am b4 grin grin dem no wan listen
Maybe na passion go put food for ur table grin grin

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Babalakin34: 12:41pm On Nov 27, 2020
Good day to all.
I'm an aspiring medic, I have also done plethora of research about the work ahead, so I came about posts where Doctors talk about how hard it is to get a placement for Residency. One doctor said it took him 5years to get a residency placement.
It's quite sad to see that happen, I must confess.
I will like anyone with a good knowledge about how residency placement works to kindly explain.
What are the things that can make one secure a placement almost immediately? Does it have anything to do with merit, state of origin or tye University one attended?

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Babalakin34: 12:46pm On Nov 27, 2020
Pls don't get bugged with my questions, I'm just seeking to know. Thanks.
What is a Doctor's Working hours like?
How many hours does a doctor work in a day?
I read about Dr Lagusta, he said in one of his diaries, that he goes as much as 124hours without sleep, OMG.
I'm solar-powered so I'm sure I can't survive staying up in the night for long, how will I cope?

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Babalakin34: 12:50pm On Nov 27, 2020
What is the difference between a Dentist Working hours and that of a Physician?
I read it doesn't involve night calls, is this true?

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