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Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Ibyno(m): 12:40pm On Nov 28, 2020
she is wrong with her words, but next time dont show your weakness by Pleading.


she would have just reply Ok, i promise the interview will continue.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Dpundict: 12:40pm On Nov 28, 2020
Good for her! Most girls are very rude when you call them for the first time. They will not even allow you to explain yourself. Lesson learned the hard way!!

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Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by ehissi(m): 12:42pm On Nov 28, 2020
Jashub:
I agree, but try and look at it from this perspective : you receiving a text from an anonymous number on WhatsApp is a breach on your privacy and security. And as you know, this is 9ja, and you cannot vouch for the next man. So her response is only natural given the circumstances

The real greatest breach here is even posting private interviews on social media..........without consent of the interviewee.

If she could afford to retain legal counsel, sue the idiot and the firm that contacted her in such an awkward manner and had the guts to post it on social media....

Nonsense clout chasers.

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Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by MummyD2020(f): 12:42pm On Nov 28, 2020
Franktom247:
This is what they call i use my hand kill myself


Why una funny like this? No dulling for nigga
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Jashub: 12:44pm On Nov 28, 2020
ehissi:


The real greatest breach here is even posting private interviews on social media..........without consent of the interviewee.

If she could afford to retain legal counsel, sue the idiot and the firm that contacted her in such an awkward manner and had the guts to post it on social media....

Nonsense clout chasers.
Thank you for pointing that out. A lot of dumb folks here are posting comments based on emotion but failing to see the other side of things.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Oktane: 12:46pm On Nov 28, 2020
Jashub:
Oga, in saner climes, there is what we call a "Standard Procedure" of recruitment.

This is done by companies with an organised structure on ground and most of these companies (except you are running a mushroom company ) have this standard procedure for REACHING out to applicants. It can be through SMS, WhatsApp, Social media, Newspapers etc.


These companies will notify you(the applicant) prior to when the outcome of the interview is out.

And not through impromptu tactics being done here by this...this...chai! I do not know even know what to call this company sef.

I have read all your responses to this post.
You are obviously not very familiar with contemporary HR processes especially as it regards recruiting a fresh member into your organisation.

There is no standard for a first time discourse with a potential employee. This was a very befitting approach as it took the lady unawares and exposed her underbelly. She is rude, uncouth arrogant and has a very limited scope.

Perhaps this will be a good lesson to everyone; Never ever be in a hurry to ask the person on the line who he/she is. In the course of the conversation this will be naturally revealed.

I have had the privilege of being on a Phone Interview panel trying to recruit fresh graduates during the pandemic. My experiences in this case will fill a book. Most candidates only become courteous (albeit pretentiously) when they suspect we are calling in respect of their career future.

Many Nigerians have no sense of courtesy. Be calm in responding to calls. If the person has your number and make the effort to call then he will make his intention known at some point of the conversation.

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Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 12:47pm On Nov 28, 2020
kingxsamz:


What makes an Email more professional and Whatapp Unprofessional when both are being used for both personal and business related issues? Who gave such law?

International companies / Local Structured companies
by standard do not send jobs via your personal number just your email. I can't speak for non structured company recruitment methods because I don't work for one. Its called professionalism. You send mails with company authorised channel, emails and your profile.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Korllami007: 12:47pm On Nov 28, 2020
pcguru1:
Hu and 5n , Jesus what are these generation learning ? I think Emmanuel is more wrong, no proper structured company send messages like over WhatsApp, it must in an official mail, it already tells that its a small company, also introduce yourself. Playing Devil's advocate, it's normal for ladies to have intrusive messages or even fraudulent messages or insistent toasters.
On Mary's side, when engaging with anyone you should always be professional and courteous. You never know who you might be chatting or talking with. It causes nothing to ask sorry who am I speaking with ? and if it doesn't go that far as you want, don't reply. Someone with that type of attitude especially with poor spelling. I wouldn't hire such to talk with client esp with that attitude. All these will have been simple if Emmanuel did a proper introduction. They are both wrong sha and Emmaneul was unprofessional also.

If you check the timestamp, you'll realized that the girl didn't give him the chance to introduce himself that's he was telling her to calm down and hear him out
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 12:47pm On Nov 28, 2020
mightyhazel:
miss as mhis is also annoying mhistarah
Miss was taken.I had to settle for this.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 12:50pm On Nov 28, 2020
chatinent:
Low IQ.



Even if I have an urge to block and delete you, I always cool down and let you introduce yourself.


Lol grin
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 12:51pm On Nov 28, 2020
At the end of the day, this might sound crude but we and some colleagues were discussing this and this is my exact response to it based on my working experience.

Life is not supposed to be fair, its understandable to have a bad day, but Emmanuel here even though was wrong has the power to give or not give jobs and he exercised that power. Just make it easy on yourself by being emotionally intelligent or fake it like the rest of us. I'm sure I'd like to tell people to fvck off daily, but there's repercussion to that.

Simple as that, at the end of the day, Mary needs the job not Emmaneul. So Mary has to learn how to be courteous, she doesn't have emotional intelligence.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by 360command: 12:53pm On Nov 28, 2020
Jashub:
I do not support the lady's rudeness, but the company should have informed her on the method they would use to contact her in case she was selected. It is just standard procedure.
boy be wise, in HRM or industrial psychology, there is what we call interrogative interview. They are interviews or questions set to make the potential employees look uncomfortable. He or she might not see it coming, but the management tend to provoke you just to know how you react..
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by IMASTEX: 12:55pm On Nov 28, 2020
Jashub:
I do not support the lady's rudeness, but the company should have informed her on the method they would use to contact her in case she was selected. It is just standard procedure.
That is not correct, in running personality test, several methods are used. Including deliberately delaying or ignoring applicants at interview venues to watch their behaviours over the cam. She is simply mannerless and unfit for a job that will expose her to meet other persons. Imagin it was a prospect client?
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 12:55pm On Nov 28, 2020
Korllami007:


If you check the timestamp, you'll realized that the girl didn't give him the chance to introduce himself that's he was telling her to calm down and hear him out

Emmanuel is wrong based on professionalism introduce yourself with a pure intention and also its more appropriate using company official channel to communicate. I can't think of any proper company that recruits via WhatsApp or engages in company dialogue that can't be tracked. Unless na startup or small company.

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Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by 99thEnemy(m): 12:56pm On Nov 28, 2020
Hello, good evening Mary


5n
Hu is dis?
N hw did u get my num?


Calm down please and hear me out


what nonsense, don't tell me 2 calm down.
who is this


You applied as an Intern to LI under web and graphics design


Jesus
I am so sorry sir
Please I am very sorry for how I replied to you
Please sir I'm very sorry.


I Just want to let you know that I got your number from your CV
that was used to wrap the Suya I bought from an aboki last night.



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Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Papsine(m): 12:58pm On Nov 28, 2020
Bornsinner7:
Awa fierce gan to ba n wa mi

This looks like Nollywood but e no concern me, wetin really draw my attention na the way she dey reply, typical Nigerian girl with empty brain

"5n" "hu is dis"..

Chating with a Nigerian girl can be so tiring



Na managing of data no vex.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by IMASTEX: 12:59pm On Nov 28, 2020
SmellySperm:

shut tf up bro,stop giving excuses for low IQ and uncouth stupid ladies, she should have at least calm down to hear the guy first instead of the unnecessary rant,that's ill manner
Don't mind him, sense is equally far from him. Let him be defending his kind.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 12:59pm On Nov 28, 2020
willyjacs:
what are u even saying?
U can't tell a company how to contact their applicants.
Which law states it is not right reach ur applicants via whatsapp?

All these Nigerians and their bend ways of reasoning.
I got a job via whatsapp interview.
If this system is new to u then u need exposure.

The fact is she's rude.
When u receive a polite message,greet them back before kindly asking who they are.

After that,if they start going of rail,u can strike.

When you apply for job or contract ND u come receive whatsapp message,act like she did.

Does the company give a shit about u?
Who are you to tell institutions how they should reach their applicants?
If at this age u think whatsapp is just for ur friends and love affairs,then u need to upgrade

No proper structured companies sends via WhatsApp I know of. Every communication on behalf of the company must be tracked, that is why you are given company mail , so people know you represent the company. You're not being objective here. I've worked for numerous organisations most international and local. I'm yet to see a proper company send company dialogue via WhatsApp unless its a Business account and thats usually the sales or support channel because Business WhatsApp account can be integrated to the system and tracked.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Dpaulie(m): 1:02pm On Nov 28, 2020
Jashub:
Ehem! Just because everybody is doing it does not make it right. There is a standard procedure to things.
I never say everybody is doing it, sis/ bro.. I said every organization has a different way of doing things
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by kingxsamz(m): 1:03pm On Nov 28, 2020
pcguru1:


International companies / Local Structured companies
by standard do not send jobs via your personal number just your email. Which is your numbers are not to be in resume. I can't speak for non structured company recruitment methods because I don't work for one. Its called professionalism. You send mails with company authorised channel, emails and your profile.

They sent it to her whatsapp. Whatsapp, just like every other app like Gmail, yahoo and so on are being used in passing and dessimation of information. Sending it through email ( an app) is not really different from sending it through whatsapp, as they're both used for both personal and business related things.
That's why I said, who made such standards that anything work related must be sent through email only? Who? Is it part of the law?
And how many people even check their mails?
A lot of people feel comfortable receiving information through whatsapp, because it's direct and straightforward.
I don't even get notifications for my emails a lot of times unless I check.
Also, how did you know the lady dropped her email?
Didn't she also drop her number?
If she didn't want a private message as you all call it, shouldn't she have dropped her email only? Saying they should have used email and not whatsapp is highly irrelevant.
There's only one person at fault here.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Korllami007: 1:05pm On Nov 28, 2020
pcguru1:


Emmanuel is wrong based on professionalism introduce yourself with a pure intention and also its more appropriate using company official channel to communicate. I can't think of any proper company that recruits via WhatsApp or engages in company dialogue that can't be tracked. Unless na startup or small company.
"Good morning Mary" is just too polite enough. Normal human being will answer and wait for the unknown person to introduce himself.

Check this out.

Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by kingxsamz(m): 1:05pm On Nov 28, 2020
Jashub:
Ehem! Just because everybody is doing it does not make it right. There is a standard procedure to things.

Who set the standards? cheesy
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 1:09pm On Nov 28, 2020
kingxsamz:


They sent it to her whatsapp. Whatsapp, just like every other app like Gmail, yahoo and so on are being used in passing and dessimation of information. Sending it through email ( an app) is not really different from sending it through whatsapp, as they're both used for both personal and business related things.
That's why I said, who made such standards that anything work related must be sent through email only? Who? Is it part of the law?
And how many people even check their mails?
A lot of people feel comfortable receiving information through whatsapp, because it's direct and straightforward.
I don't even get notifications for my emails a lot of times unless I check.
Also, how did you know the lady dropped her email?
Didn't she also drop her number?
If she didn't want a private message as you all call it, shouldn't she have dropped her email only? Saying they should have used email and not whatsapp is highly irrelevant.
There's only one person at fault here.

I will say this again, I'm not dealing with candidate preference, no proper structured organization uses WhatsApp to communicate to its candidate for a job recruitment. Unless the company is not proper or structured. I'm not talking about one man business. If they do that is bad practice. Then again like I said this is based on companies I've been in and what Organizational standards are set to. Even in Nigeria , its discouraged to use personal lines to chat on behalf of business but na naija we dey. It is highly unprofessional unless it is an assigned number by the company.


Though I'd like to make a clarification, you can have phone numbers in resume.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Jashub: 1:13pm On Nov 28, 2020
Oktane:


I have read all your responses to this post.
You are obviously not very familiar with contemporary HR processes especially as it regards recruiting a fresh member into your organisation.

There is no standard for a first time discourse with a potential employee. This was a very befitting approach as it took the lady unawares and exposed her underbelly. She is rude, uncouth arrogant and has a very limited scope.

Perhaps this will be a good lesson to everyone; Never ever be in a hurry to ask the person on the line who he/she is. In the course of the conversation this will be naturally revealed.

I have had the privilege of being on a Phone Interview panel trying to recruit fresh graduates during the pandemic. My experiences in this case will fill a book. Most candidates only become courteous (albeit pretentiously) when they suspect we are calling in respect of their career future.

Many Nigerians have no sense of courtesy. Be calm in responding to calls. If the person has your number and make the effort to call then he will make his intention known at some point of the conversation.



There is nothing befitting about the incompetent nature of what this company is doing. But I am sure this is how typical Nigerian companies handle their recruitment process...right? Smh
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by kingxsamz(m): 1:14pm On Nov 28, 2020
ehissi:


The real greatest breach here is even posting private interviews on social media..........without consent of the interviewee.

If she could afford to retain legal counsel, sue the idiot and the firm that contacted her in such an awkward manner and had the guts to post it on social media....

Nonsense clout chasers.

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First of all, the lady's contact was not displayed, all you have there is a random name and chat, which could be fake.
Secondly, it wasn't the Emmanuel guy who posted it.
So on what ground do you want to sue? grin
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Nobody: 1:14pm On Nov 28, 2020
Korllami007:

"Good morning Mary" is just too polite enough. Normal human being will answer and wait for the unknown person to introduce himself.

Check this out.

The corporate world doesn't care about what she went through o, if you cannot fake civility like the rest of us, omo you go learn hard. E.g the case of the NASA tweet. It costs nothing to say sorry , I am Mary, who am I speaking with and okay how may I be of assistance ? I dey para, but corporate settings you must suck up your attitude and fake it, if you want the job.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Jashub: 1:15pm On Nov 28, 2020
IMASTEX:

That is not correct, in running personality test, several methods are used. Including deliberately delaying or ignoring applicants at interview venues to watch their behaviours over the cam. She is simply mannerless and unfit for a job that will expose her to meet other persons. Imagin it was a prospect client?
A personality test that is given through Whatsapp chat For a web design/graphic-design job...? Baba, give me break. Bikonu
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by NoToPile: 1:17pm On Nov 28, 2020
oluwoleife:
Same way I called a lady just to get her contact details while preparing her letter of appointment after she had come for the interview.

Upon mentioning the name of the organization......she still asked 'what do you need my address for?'


What was wrong with the question?
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by ehissi(m): 1:17pm On Nov 28, 2020
kingxsamz:


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First of all, the lady's contact was not displayed, all you have there is a random name and chat, which could be fake.
Secondly, it wasn't the Emmanuel guy who posted it.
So on what ground do you want to sue? grin

And on whose behalf was the poster acting on?

The only way details of a private interview will enter social media, is if there was a breach on the part of the person who took/copy the interview, who acted on the behalf of the prospective employer.

The existence of the screenshot itself is proof........
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by kingxsamz(m): 1:18pm On Nov 28, 2020
pcguru1:


I will say this again, I'm not dealing with candidate preference, no proper structured organization uses WhatsApp to communicate to its candidate for a job recruitment. Unless the company is not proper or structured. I'm not talking about one man business. If they do that is bad practice. Then again like I said this is based on companies I've been in and what Organizational standards are set to. Even in Nigeria , its discouraged to use personal lines to chat on behalf of business but na naija we dey. It is highly unprofessional unless it is an assigned number by the company.


Though I'd like to make a clarification, you can have phone numbers in resume.

You keep talking about structure and standards. grin
I'm asking who made it so?
Just because emails are used most times does not mean using other methods is unprofessional or not properly structured.
Where did you get the notion from that emails are used for an organization, but whatsapp is for one man business? grin abeg.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by kingxsamz(m): 1:21pm On Nov 28, 2020
ehissi:


And on whose behalf was the poster acting on?

The only way details of a private interview will enter social media, is if there was a breach on the part of the person who took/copy the interview, who acted on the behalf of the prospective employer.

The existence of the screenshot itself is proof........

Is proof that what? grin
I could pick up another phone and make up such conversation.
Did you see anyone's number displayed in that chat? No.
Anyways, either real or fake, people need this.
People need to have sense. You must learn to have manners. Even you yourself will never recruit such lady.
Re: Lady Loses Job To 'Who Gave You My Number?' Question On WhatsApp by Oktane: 1:28pm On Nov 28, 2020
Jashub:
There is nothing befitting about the incompetent nature of what this company is doing. But I am sure this is how typical Nigerian companies handle their recruitment process...right? Smh






There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way the interview was conducted. His Salutations should have calmed her down; 'Hello Mary'.

He greeted her with her first name. What more was she expecting? The least she could have done is to be a little patient.

But no need to argue about this. The message has been passed. Even Mary would have learnt her lessons judging from the way she begged later on as if her life was dependent on that job.

Important question for you Sir;
With benefit of hindsight, do you think she will repeat this behaviour consciously in a subsequent experience?

That is the best answer to the question regarding if she was wrong or not.

I rest my case.

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