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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Timoleon(m): 12:55pm On Dec 09, 2020
Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by lekki1444: 12:57pm On Dec 09, 2020
I do Electrocardiography CHECKUPS to see if you are prone to heart attacks or if you have underlying cardiac rhythm aberration. I am the best in the business. My equipment is mobile and computerised so I can come to your house or your place of office to do the checkup. hit me up

Also I combine the electrocardiography with blood pressure monitoring to assess your risk for strokes..

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Farki: 12:58pm On Dec 09, 2020
Thank you for creating this topic and thank you mods for pushing it to the front page.

The best way to protect yourself is to first know your cardiovascular health status and if you are an individual who is at risk. Such people are;

- People over 40 especially men.
- People who are overweight
- People with a family history of cardiovascular disorders
- People with stressful jobs or going through traumatic life situations
- People who abuse drugs

You can prevent sudden heart attacks by
- Knowing your family history
- checking and testing with your doctor regularly, preferably once a month if you are a high risk individual.
- maintaining a healthy weight and diet
- and very important stay off recreational drugs.

I know of someone who survived but it was a real struggle and most of her mobility has been compromised. She's still very sharp mentally though.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Nobody: 1:00pm On Dec 09, 2020
Yes they do. Managed one case recently, haemrrhagic stroke. Px was very bad at presentation. I didn't believe he could make it initially. Wanted to refer to the specialist, neurologist but the relatives declined on account of financial constraint. The px made it but has mild neurological deficits. Still on recovering process though.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Sonnobax15(m): 1:01pm On Dec 09, 2020
osuofia2:

SEE THEM, YOU CAN SURVIVE ANYTHING YET THE LIFE EXPECATNCY HERE IS LESS THAN 60YRS
It all boils down to the kind of chemicalised food this generation has been known to be eating..
Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by WantsandMore: 1:04pm On Dec 09, 2020
hisexcellency34:
Nigerians are very resilient. We can survive anything
Politicians say this often and repeatedly chop money meant for health facilities...

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by alasane: 1:04pm On Dec 09, 2020
Dailyhappenings:
Yeah I had a teacher then in high school who was down with it.. and he was treated ...but believe me when I say it is bad...

If you know anyone that has it, tell them to go for Shiloh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SShagpyaBd0

scammer

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Oizee(f): 1:05pm On Dec 09, 2020
HUSTLER001:
My dad died of stroke and now your post is bringing back memories. We did everything to make him make good use of his limbs again but then death strikes.RIP Dad.
so sorry, may his soul rest in peace

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by zoghys: 1:05pm On Dec 09, 2020
hisexcellency34:
Nigerians are very resilient. We can survive anything

Not everything my dear. This topic should be integral and calls for practitioners in medicine to contribute and enlighten us all. Too many death, at such a small problem.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by GavelSlam: 1:05pm On Dec 09, 2020
Dailyhappenings:
Yeah I had a teacher then in high school who was down with it.. and he was treated ...but believe me when I say it is bad...

If you know anyone that has it, tell them to go for Shiloh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SShagpyaBd0

Shiloh?

Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Kinematics: 1:05pm On Dec 09, 2020
Heart attack yeah, but haemorrhagic stroke? Yet to see one case that survived with haemorrhagic stroke in naija, not saying they don't exist or heart attack is less fatal, but our management for haemorrhagic CVA in this country is zero.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Famocious(m): 1:06pm On Dec 09, 2020
Yes, many Nigerians survive heart attacks (Myocardial infarction) and stroke either ischemic or hemorrhagic. However, survival of the stroke depends on many factors such as presence of other co-morbidities, age of the patients, complications of the stroke, types of the stroke, available of expert in stroke care and the time of presentation at the hospital.

For heart attacks, it seems more fatal than stroke, centers that can offer thrombolysis, percutaneous cardiac interventions are less than 20 in Nigeria and majority of them are located in Abuja, Lagos and PH. It's sorry case for people in other state. Furthermore, cardioversion devices are strange to most of our health facilities.

Overall, survival is poor in most 3rd world countries like Nigeria when it's compared to industrialized nations. Sadly, most of the best minds we have in Medicine have either emigrated or on the verge of leaving the country. The impacts of the brain drain ravaging our beloved nation may not be felt today but surely, tomorrow.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Nobody: 1:07pm On Dec 09, 2020
Amotolongbo:
Our President has survived several shocks and still will survive many
let him try electric for a change
Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by walexbiz(m): 1:09pm On Dec 09, 2020
Very unfortunate, a very informative inquisition on resuscitation of victims of heart attack has little or no interest and very few people seems to care less about these attacks but a lot of people have fallen victims with little or no assistance. Just put up a write up about spiritual attack and you would see how my people from the south will jump.on the thread as if they have empirical evidence to substantiate claim and even if they do bring any evidence they put forward you would discover it's just a fiction of their imagination.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by lecoeur(m): 1:12pm On Dec 09, 2020
BENARI:
It is with a sense of dismay that I create this thread. I don't know about you, but I've observed particularly in the last decade or two that more and more Nigerians are dying suddenly; either they slump, sleep and not wake up, or simply let out a shout(my head my head my head), and next thing you know, they are gone. These 3 scenarios are typical of Heart attacks, Cardiac arrest, and Hemorrhagic Strokes.

Sad to say, a lot of the people I know, even seemingly very literate ones tend to blame such deaths on spiritual attacks, and for that reason I believe we miss the opportunity to fashion out a way to prevent as much as possible, a recurrence.

I've often wondered why everyone I learnt had a heart attack in Nigeria or a Hemorrhagic stroke ends up dying. Perhaps I've not been very observant, but I've never met a survivor of any of these medical emergencies. Mind you, I'm not talking about the less severe stroke that usually partially paralyze a part of the body.
Ironically, in the western world, statistics shows that only a third of victims end up dying from these emergencies. Some persons have even survived repeated heart attacks.

Well, I know some will say we don't have the facilities and emergency response, yes, but even those who do make it to the hospital end up dying. On the part of the populace, we are usually helpless when such emergencies occur which I find rather unfortunate. Now let me say this, the reason why people end dying from heart attacks particularly in Nigeria, is not only due to inadequate facilities, but also due to ignorance. A simple CPR(chest compress) which can be performed by anybody can and have saved many lives(a CPR is by no means a solution to heart attacks, but can help to keep the victim alive till medical professionals take over management). I simply cannot understand why both the government and we the people have not yet seen the need to educate ourselves about this simple live saving procedure. Personally I've tried to train loved ones on this procedure, but often they laugh it off or don't take it seriously. They're usually quick to label me a coward, pessimist or faithless person. I'm certain I'll do whatever I can to help a heart attack victim if I encounter any such emergencies, but I sometimes worry that no one will be able to come to my aid if I were to be a victim some day.

I think we need a change of attitude toward this sudden killers. More and more are dying needless deaths, and we can do more that just blowing breeze or pouring water on victims while we wait for them to die. We need to educate ourselves, our spouses, children, friends, and relatives. Your effort can save a loved ones life including yours. This emergencies can befall anyone irrespective of age or gender(although men 30 years and above are disproportionately affected, but women over 45 years of age are at increased risk)

Doctors and Medical professionals in the house please throw more light on this topic; how to prevent the conditions that leads to this medical emergencies and what to do when such emergencies do occur. I'm however aware of the ignorance and debate that exist in the medical field as to what causes the disease that leads to these emergencies.

The sudden death trend is an alarming one in Nigeria that should be declared a national emergency in my view. Looks like 2 in every 3 deaths this days are sudden.

Personally I'm taking the time to know the cause of the disease that eventually leads to this emergencies and also taking steps that could likely help prevent things from getting so bad, and I think the time has come for each and everyone to begin doing the same. Because I'm not a medical professional, I cannot recommend what people should or shouldn't do to reduce their risk, however, I'll gladly share materials that can educate people on lifestyle choices that can help them.

Nice write up says a lot about our carelessness regarding our health issues.
My dad was really been ignorant about his health challenge until he slumped one day got ill, man is fighting partial stroke now.
Too bad

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Gbadebo19(m): 1:14pm On Dec 09, 2020
Heart Attack? That Thing Cannot Kill A Nigerian. Me For Example, The Price Of Cement Jumped From 2900 To 4200. No Work Since About 2 Weeks Ago And I Just Emptied My Last Kobo Yesterday Afternoon. Help A Brother O Jarey. Polaris Bank, 3028060745
Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Farukshy: 1:19pm On Dec 09, 2020
1st time am going through comments with out seeing tribal issues. sometimes I wounder if we can get things right In this country... this is a nice topic., there is too much to survive in this country. sometimes in the morning u feel like not going out, not that u don't have what to do out there, but my brother the frustration.stress pain,traffic aft all this u end up not achieving anything good. like I said when will all this be ok

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Mutemenot(m): 1:19pm On Dec 09, 2020
We medical Checkup here, we believe only the sick goes to the hospital not knowing we have some illness that has little or no symptoms .. infact some illness develops symptoms at the point of death. With regular medical Checkup, we 'll easily overcome the challenges...
Sad to say This, my father of died stroke, alot believed it was a spiritual attack but I know it wasn't..

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by itoroakban: 1:20pm On Dec 09, 2020
I'm logging into Nairaland for the first time in 3 years to reply to this post, because this one hits close to home, my mother had an hemorragic stroke in early September, and it's by the Grace of Google that she survived.

Mum's stroke occurred on the morning of September 6, she suddenly started complaining of intense headache, and for the first 10 minutes my younger sister and I were confused not knowing what to do. It was only after quickly googling for the cause of sudden intense headache that I saw that 'Thunderclap Headaches' were one of the major symptoms of Hemorragic Stroke.

We rushed her to a nearby hospital, where they checked her bp and found it was 190 over something (can't really remember the specific figure). She was in a coma for 3 days, then in a minimally conscious state for 2+ weeks where she was conscious but couldn't move any part of her body.

She started recovering in early October, and Physically she's now fully recovered, but memory wise, my heart breaks every day. The stroke led to my wonderful, funny, witty, joke-telling mother losing a major portion of her memories prior to the Stroke, and completely losing the ability to form new memories. She can cook, do things around the house, and hold a basic conversation, but whatever she does in the morning, she forgets by evening, and during the evenings her condition worsens. She wakes up after an afternoon nap thinking it's early in thr morning, brushes more than 4 times a day because she's forgotten that she has already brushed, and lots of other minor heart-wrenching issues.

And to be honest, all this is my fault. After mum was diagnosed of high blood pressure in 2018, I should have bought a bp checking machine for her to use in checking her bp every morning, so as to know whether or not to take a blood pressure reducing drug, but foolishly the thought never crossed my mind.

So I'm begging everyone who reads this, please and please, PLEASE, don't be as stupid as I was, if a loved one has high blood pressure, please either get a bp machine for her to check her blood pressure every morning and ask a pharmacist/doctor for bp medications she can be taking regularly, or at the very least take her to a nearby pharmacy every week to check her bp. If you're too busy, beg someone close to you to be doing it. Because if the loved one gets a Hemorragic stroke in Nigeria today, whether she recovers or not, you've lost her.

It's been more than 3 months, and I consider myself a very strong hearted person, but every 2 or 3 days, I look at mum, and I break down in tears.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Dec 09, 2020
Hemorrhagic stroke is more deadly because of bleeding in the brain and the compression of the brain by the bleeding. If immediate intervention isn't carried out, death is sure. This condition usually leaves it survivors with permanent disabilities.

Myocardial infarction or heart attack on the other hand is less fatal even without intervention. But the problem with a heart attack is that the part of the heart that doesn't receive blood flow due to ischemia becomes less functional. This eventually leads to heart failure and eventually death in the long run. This process may take years too.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by higgs: 1:35pm On Dec 09, 2020
Thanks OP

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Nobody: 1:41pm On Dec 09, 2020
lekki1444:
I do Electrocardiography CHECKUPS to see if you are prone to heart attacks or if you have underlying cardiac rhythm aberration. I am the best in the business. My equipment is mobile and computerised so I can come to your house or your place of office to do the checkup. hit me up

Also I combine the electrocardiography with blood pressure monitoring to assess your risk for strokes..

Hahahahaha. All these scammers grin grin

In other words you have an EKG machine which reads heart rhythms which highly fluctuate at different times of the day, yet you can predict risk for strokes?

Please tell me, how do you predict risk for strokes besides a highly elevated BP?

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by HUSTLER001: 1:45pm On Dec 09, 2020
Oizee:
so sorry, may his soul rest in peace
Thanks dear.
Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by kayrichy: 1:50pm On Dec 09, 2020
We are so lackadaisical or literally non chalant in this part of the world.The only time we visit the hospital is when our cases are critical and we expect a magic.You don’t have to be ill before you go for check up.most of this illness are preventable with lifestyle modification and proper maintenance medication.Doctors could assess a 10year risk of having stoke and other complications with what they call ASCVD and prevent cerebrovascular disease by placing the patient on medication.Many of this death are avoidable.
I have always advocated for addition of Basic life support (BLS) to be added to our curriculum irrespective of being a paramedic/medic but all we do is still repeating same curriculum we have been using since 80s .It won’t just work.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by lekki1444: 1:51pm On Dec 09, 2020
ALEX182:


Hahahahaha. All these scammers grin grin

In other words you have an EKG machine which reads heart rhythms which highly fluctuate at different times of the day, yet you can predict risk for strokes?

Please tell me, how do you predict risk for strokes besides a highly elevated BP?
alright first of all let me attach pictures of some of my equipment and i will write your name just so you know its me

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Nobody: 1:53pm On Dec 09, 2020
lekki1444:
alright first of all let me attach pictures of some of my equipment and i will write your name just so you know its me


Like I said, EKG machine. And for BP, a BP cuff. I know what they are bro cheesy

My question is HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO PREDICT A STROKE OR MI besides an elevated BP. An elevated BP is general thing which can mean many things.
Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Nobody: 1:53pm On Dec 09, 2020
@famocious, @dvin @farki @kayrichy
Brilliant posts.
Indeed, health awareness is still very poor in Nigeria. We still practise pouring water on those who faint, that in itself is atrocious.
The general public needs to be educated on how to identify a stroke and a mini stroke (TIA). FAST shoul not be left to health professionals alone.
We need to teach first aid and cpr for heart attack to the general public.
People need to be aware that any unexplainable chest pain could be an early sign of a heart attack.
Medics should start using QRISK to identify those at higher risk and offer them statins.
People who can afford it should also be advised to take out health insurance with centres that have at least a CT scan or centres affiliated to one.

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by enokings: 1:55pm On Dec 09, 2020
Personally I'm taking the time to know the cause of the disease that eventually leads to this emergencies and also taking steps that could likely help prevent things from getting so bad, and I think the time has come for each and everyone to begin doing the same. Because I'm not a medical professional, I cannot recommend what people should or shouldn't do to reduce their risk, however, I'll gladly share materials that can educate people on lifestyle choices that can help them.

Lost a young colleague 3 days ago to this. Very apt topic
Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by HBB1(m): 1:57pm On Dec 09, 2020
ALEX182:
Hemorrhagic stroke is more deadly because of bleeding in the brain and the compression of the brain by the bleeding. If immediate intervention isn't carried out, death is sure. This condition usually leaves it survivors with permanent disabilities.

Myocardial infarction or heart attack on the other hand is less fatal even without intervention. But the problem with a heart attack is that the part of the heart that doesn't receive blood flow due to ischemia becomes less functional. This eventually leads to heart failure and eventually death in the long run. This process may take years too.

MI is less fatal?!

Continue!

Professor Emeritus!

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by lekki1444: 1:58pm On Dec 09, 2020
ALEX182:



Like I said, EKG machine. And for BP, a BP cuff. I know what they are bro cheesy

My question is HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO PREDICT A STROKE OR MI?
i predict MI by ST segment elevation or depression or abnormalities in Lead V1 like say in V1 the R wave is bigger than the Q wave. I also look at the R wave progression and expect it to turn positive at v3 and v4. I also look at PR interval if greater than 20mm , I also look at QRS wave complex if greater than 12 mm etc etc etc. I have about 20 protocols i follow. also inverted T wave or a biphasic p wave etc

with stroke obviously there will be a rhythm abberation and follow that with blood pressure monitoring as the pressure increases to compensate for the lack of efficiency due to a compromised artery ( blocked ) etc etc. The pumping pressure has to be compensated for during an abberation and so we do blood pressure monitoring with the ecg to determine stroke risk

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Re: Heart Attacks And Hemorrhagic Strokes: Do Nigerians Survive These Attacks? by Nobody: 2:02pm On Dec 09, 2020
HBB1:


MI is less fatal?!

Continue!

Professor Emeritus!

I dunno what your archaic professor taught you in school, but yes MI is less fatal. I said it. Go and argue with your ancestors.

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