MaxInDHouse:
I thought the highlighted is what those people Jesus called the sons of Satan (LIAR) said nah? John 8:44

Well if that's your evidence it's OK shame on me then!

Very weak defence.

Plasm 91: 11 For He will give His angels charge concerning you,

To guard you in all your ways.

12 They will bear you up in their hands,

That you do not strike your foot against a stone

Was satan lying when he used this verse to tempt Jesus.

U see satan can use the truth to achieve his evil agenda hence he was quoting scripture.

Get sense you no gree.

OK!
So when Satan asked Jesus to bow down and worship him (Satan) so that he could hand over all the Kingdoms of the world to Jesus, Satan was actually ask his God to fall down and worship him! Luke 4:5-8

Hmmmmmmmmmm!

Then who was Jesus loyal to when he refused to worship Satan? OK i get it, Jesus was proving loyalty to himself!

Maximus ~ hen
You no get sense ~ Yes Sir!

freshboi88:

Very weak defence.
Plasm 91: 11 For He will give His angels charge concerning you,
To guard you in all your ways.
12 They will bear you up in their hands,
That you do not strike your foot against a stone
Was satan lying when he used this verse to tempt Jesus.
U see satan can use the truth to achieve his evil agenda hence he was quoting scripture.
Get sense you no gree.

Myer:


Are you saying the name Jesus negates Yahweh?

no, infact Jesus is Jehovah God. The bible revealed that Jehovah God is Trinity Gen 1vv26, but Jehovah as a name was a revelation of God to the Jews but Jesus is the revelation of God to all mankind

MaxInDHouse:
OK!
So when Satan asked Jesus to bow down and worship him (Satan) so that he could hand over all the Kingdoms of the world to Jesus, Satan was actually ask his God to fall down and worship him! Luke 4:5-8

Hmmmmmmmmmm!

Then who was Jesus loyal to when he refused to worship Satan? OK i get it, Jesus was proving loyalty to himself!

Maximus ~ hen
You no get sense ~ Yes Sir!

Jesus was tempted as a man......So the Son of man is loyal the Father as a servant because he chose to empty himself

Jesus as Son of God is equal with God. John 5:18.

So who no get sense now?

Meanwhile this one still dey find where to pitch him tent

livingchrist:
Jesus is Jehovah God[the Father].

livingchrist:

By saying Jesus and the father[Jehovah] are the same person you make Jesus a liar.

Preciousgirl:
According to JWs

God had a beautiful blueprint for His creation, but the devil thwarted these beautiful plans. To JWs, Satan took over God's authority on this Earth; to them Satan rules the earth.

They have this hilarious illustration:

God (A teacher) was teaching His pupils , and one pupil (Satan) told the teacher and the class that, the teacher was wrong; God then handed the lesson over to Satan to teach so that all will see Satan's ignorance

Well, let's see what the Bible says about God's plans for His creation, and who is responsible for the current state of affairs of this creation. Let us also see, who rules the Heavens and the Earth:

Romans 8:18-22
[18]For I consider that[b] the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.[/b]
[19]For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

[20]For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope;

[21]because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

[22]For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

God Himself subjected the creation to futility; not Satan.

God rules the Heavens and the Earth (Mathew 28:18)

More verses follow:

Thanks very much my dear

JW is a cult!

There is no Jehovah in the Holy Scriptures

God is Jesus

Osanobua!
freshboi88 ~ "Maximus"
Maximus ~ "hen"
freshboi88 ~ "you no get sense"
Maximus ~ "yes Sir"

Please what else do you want?

I never thought you've been shooting burning arrows at me until you said "VERY WEAK DEFENSE" Isaiah 54:17

Abeg you're 100% correct jare.

Jesus SENT himself, praise himself, was loyal to himself, prayed to himself, commended himself, strengthen himself, kneel down begged himself, die and resurrected himself, appointed himself as King over himself and returned everything to himself so that everyone can know that he is doing everything to show himself. Shey?

Don't mind Maximus jare, Max no get sense Sir!

freshboi88:

Jesus was tempted as a man......So the Son of man is loyal the Father as a servant because he chose to empty himself
Jesus as Son of God is equal with God. John 5:18.
So who no get sense now?

TRINITY will accommodate him nah, all these arguments against JWs will end now if you just hail their TRINITY everything else is story story story!

DappaD:

Meanwhile this one still dey find where to pitch him tent

bingbagbo:


Thanks very much my dear
JW is a cult!
There is no Jehovah in the Holy Scriptures
God is Jesus

OK so after all of these what's next on the list? Seems all these your “JW is a cult” rants is gradually fading so anything new yet? C'mon you can do better.

MaxInDHouse:
Osanobua!
freshboi88 ~ "Maximus"
Maximus ~ "hen"
freshboi88 ~ "you no get sense"
Maximus ~ "yes Sir"

Please what else do you want?

I never thought you've been shooting burning arrows at me until you said "VERY WEAK DEFENSE" Isaiah 54:17

Abeg you're 100% correct jare.

Jesus SENT himself, praise himself, was loyal to himself, prayed to himself, commended himself, strengthen himself, kneel down begged himself, die and resurrected himself, appointed himself as King over himself and returned everything to himself so that everyone can know that he is doing everything to show himself. Shey?

Don't mind Maximus jare, Max no get sense Sir!

I'm glad you know. The day U understand the dual nature of Christ. That's d day, ur delusion will be cleared

livingchrist:
no, infact Jesus is Jehovah God. The bible revealed that Jehovah God is Trinity Gen 1vv26, but Jehovah as a name was a revelation of God to the Jews but Jesus is the revelation of God to all mankind

John 17:6,26 dey your Bible or you remove am.

It's good i know but don't understand the dual nature of your god o!

However i'll love to remain delusional than having to go about trying to convince right thinking people how my god SENT himself, as a baby protected himself, grew up and dedicated his life to himself, tempted to betray but remained loyal to himself, called and answered himself, commended and approved himself, prayed to himself, begged himself to protect himself, died and resurrected himself, then returned to heaven and sat by himself to present the value of his death to himself, he will then approve himself to rule for a thousand years and later hand over everything back to himself so that everyone can know that he's been doing everything all by himself!

Even my little grandson (Dave) will suggest that his grandpa need to see the psychiatrist if i try to teach him this wonderful good news!

So if it's delusion that's making me not to understand the mystery, i think i'll love to remain deluded for good!

freshboi88:

I'm glad you know. The day U understand the dual nature of Christ. That's d day, ur delusion will be cleared

MaxInDHouse:
It's good i know but don't understand the dual nature of your god!
However i'll love to remain delusional than having to go about trying to convince right thinking people how my god SENT himself, as a baby protected himself, grew up and dedicated his life to himself, tempted to betray but remained loyal to himself, called and answered himself, commended and approved himself, prayed to himself, begged himself to protect himself, died and resurrected himself, then returned to heaven and sat by himself to present the value of his death to himself, he will then approve himself to rule for a thousand years and later hand over everything back to himself so that everyone can know that he's been doing everything all by himself!
Even my little grandson (Dave) will suggest that his grandpa need to see the psychiatrist if i try to teach him this wonderful good news!
So if it's delusion that's making me not to understand the mystery, i think i'll love to remain deluded for good!

This is Luke 22:42 in any normal Bible:
“Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.”


Meanwhile, this is how Luke 22:42 should read if the trinity doctrine was actually true:
“Myself, if I want to, remove this cup from myself. However, let, not my will, but my own will be done.”

My brother, Trinity has gone mad oo

freshboi88:


Jesus was tempted as a man......So the Son of man is loyal the Father as a servant because he chose to empty himself

Jesus as Son of God is equal with God. John 5:18.

So who no get sense now?

LYING Dullard, John 5:18,"Jesus is calling God his Father",
( the Jews allegation " making himself equal with God" is FALSEHOOD. John 14:28 John 19:6-7 refutes the false allegation).

Freshboi, do you call God your Father?
Does it mean you are equal to God?
Ok, shey Trinity is your Father ?

John 14:28 "the Father, God is greater than I am", according to Jesus Christ.
John 19:6-7 , Jesus is the son of God, according to the Jews who killed Jesus..

Lie lie boi

Janosky:


LYING Dullard, "Jesus is calling God his Father", is God not your Father?
Does it mean you are equal to God?
Ok, shey Trinity is your Father ?

John 14:28 "the Father, God is greater than I am", according to Jesus Christ.
John 19:6-7 , Jesus is the son of God, according to the Jews who killed Jesus..

Lie lie boi

Me I get papa, you u get papa. ABI no be Ur papa born u.

Only a fool will compare our case to Jesus.

Jesus say e no get human papa but Jehovah nah e own papa...


Do you see that u r a mumu for drawing that comparison.

John 1:18. Son of God is equal to Jehovah.

Jesus as Son of God is equal to Jehovah.

As Son of Man is subsevient because he took human form

freshboi88:


Me I get papa, you u get papa. ABI no be Ur papa born u.

Only a fool will compare our case to Jesus.

Jesus say e no get human papa but Jehovah nah e own papa...


Do you see that u r a mumu for drawing that comparison.

John 1:18. Son of God is equal to Jehovah.

Jesus as Son of God is equal to Jehovah.

As Son of Man is subsevient because he took human form

Freshboi, "No man has been God at any time", where is the equality in John 1:18?
Who obey this command?:
"Sit at my right hand......"

Please use your own Bible to tell this forum who did Jehovah obey ? when ?& where ?

DappaD:


[s]It's not when they've exposed you that you'll begin to use subtle tricks to appease the audience. Nobody be your brother for here.[/s]

Since it's not the angel who is coming and that those words originate from Jehovah God(not Jesus), then we can agree that it was Jehovah who spoke at Revelation 22:12-13 taking into consideration the channel of communication at Revelation 1:1

it is the revelation of Jesus Christ that Father God gave Him
it is not the revelation of Father God:
Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

john gave record of the testimonny of Jesus:
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Jesus testified that He is Alpha and Omega, that He is coming quickly:
Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

john affirmed that it was Jesus that testified those things, "I come quickly", "I am Alpha and Omega" etc.:
Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 

DappaD:
but it is Jesus who will act on Jehovah's orders. Mark 8:38; 2Thessalonians 1:7-9; Revelation 19:11-15, 22:20

i see, it's Father God who said "I come quickly" but it's actually
Jesus Christ who comes quickly, laugh

johnw47:


it is the revelation of Jesus Christ that Father God gave Him
it is not the revelation of Father God:
Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

john gave record of the testimonny of Jesus:
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Jesus testified that He is Alpha and Omega, that He is coming quickly:
Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

john affirmed that it was Jesus that testified those things, "I come quickly", "I am Alpha and Omega" etc.:
Rev 22:20  He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 




i see, it's Father God who said "I come quickly" but it's actually
Jesus Christ who comes quickly, laugh

Revelation 22:5-7,11-13, the angel is speaking for God , Yahweh the giver of this Revelation to Jesus, @ 1vs1.
John 17:2, 1 Thess1:7-9,Revelation 2:27,28 that assignment of "coming" , to execute judgement and give rewards , Yahweh gave the assignment to Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:1 is not rocket science nau.
If Trinity no dull your brain.

Janosky:


Revelation 22:5-7,11-13, the angel is speaking for God , Yahweh the giver of this Revelation to Jesus, @ 1vs1.
John 17:2, 1 Thess1:7-9,Revelation 2:27,28 that assignment of "coming" , to execute judgement and give rewards , Yahweh gave the assignment to Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:1 is not rocket science nau.
If Trinity no dull your brain.

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

false jw janosky

the revelation is of Jesus Christ, He said "I come Quickly"
john affirmed it "Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus"

read all my posts on Alpha and Omega know nothing
but first get sense

and try to have the courage to post the verses
your words certainly do not cut it mumu

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

DappaD:
Meanwhile this one still dey find where to pitch him tent

Alibaba sef no do pass this one.
Clown

Janosky:


Freshboi, "No man has been God at any time", where is the equality in John 1:18?
Who obey this command?:
"Sit at my right hand......"

Please use your own Bible to tell this forum who did Jehovah obey ? when ?& where ?

Jesus frequently referred to "My Father," and his hearers got the full impact of his words. We are told, "The Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God

Janosky remove this from your Bible and this arguement is yours. As far as this is in the Bible, then you are forever wrong

John 1:1.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

. Verse three says,

“All things came into being by Him [the Word], and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.”

The NWT is virtually the same:

“All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.”


If you can't take these out of your Bible then Jesus is God

johnw47:


Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

false jw janosky

the revelation is of Jesus Christ, He said "I come Quickly"
john affirmed it "Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus"

read all my posts on Alpha and Omega know nothing
but first get sense

and try to have the courage to post the verses
your words certainly do not cut it mumu

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

They will twist the truth to suit their lies.

Janosky:


Revelation 22:5-7,11-13, the angel is speaking for God , Yahweh the giver of this Revelation to Jesus, @ 1vs1.
John 17:2, 1 Thess1:7-9,Revelation 2:27,28 that assignment of "coming" , to execute judgement and give rewards , Yahweh gave the assignment to Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:1 is not rocket science nau.
If Trinity no dull your brain.

1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servantsa the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.


Liar

Revelation of Jesus Christ.

Who is coming quickly?... Is a question since the beginning of this argument that non of u liars has been bold to answer

You said your god has dual nature like Òrìsà~Ïbejì that's why it could divide itself so half could manifest on planet earth while the other half remain in another planet. But here you're quoting a book that says one gave something to the other while your dual god is in the same place!
Haba can't this your god return to his former single state again after the dual manifestation?

freshboi88:

The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave him to show to his servantsa the things that must soon take place.

MaxInDHouse:
You said your god has dual nature like Òrìsà~Ïbejì that's why it could divide itself so half could manifest on planet earth while the other half remain in another planet. But here you're quoting a book that says one gave something to the other while your dual god is in the same place!
Haba can't this your god return to his former single state again after the dual manifestation?

It's a revelation of Jesus Christ.

God is a Trinity. Father, Son and Spirit. So what is your point.

Rev 22:12“Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

The one who is coming soon is Alpha and Omega

Please where is the highlighted WRITTEN in God's word? The JWs told me TRINITY is what the pagan Roman Catholic Church handed over to you people but i'm trying really hard to give you a benefit of doubt!

freshboi88:


It's a revelation of Jesus Christ.

God is a Trinity. Father, Son and Spirit. So what is your point.

Oooooooooooh!
Janosky! Janosky! I go vex for you o!

What is difficult in what Pastor, Prophet, Reverend, Apostle, Superintendent, Dr freshboi88 JP (all protocols duly observed) said nah?

Simple Jehovah obeyed himself, commanded himself and sat at his own right hand. PERIOD!

Woo i don't like you disturbing his holiness the man of God o!

Janosky:


Freshboi, "No man has been God at any time", where is the equality in John 1:18?
Who obey this command?:
"Sit at my right hand......"

Please use your own Bible to tell this forum who did Jehovah obey ? when ?& where ?

MaxInDHouse:
Please where is the highlighted WRITTEN in God's word? The JWs told me TRINITY is what the pagan Roman Catholic Church handed over to you people but i'm trying really hard to give you a benefit of doubt!

MATTHEW 28:18-20 (KJV and NRSV) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.


Notice how scripture doesn't say in the names of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Instead it uses singular (name of).

That right here is the scriptural reference to the doctrine of the trinity.

No be me write am o nah so I'm dey for bible

MaxInDHouse:
Oooooooooooh!
Janosky! Janosky! I go vex for you o!

What is difficult in what Pastor, Prophet, Reverend, Apostle, Superintendent, Dr freshboi88 JP (all protocols duly observed) said nah?

Simple Jehovah obeyed himself, commanded himself and sat at his own right hand. PERIOD!

Woo i don't like you disturbing his holiness the man of God o!

That's not what my Bible says.

Dual nature of Christ. Son of God and Son of Man at the same time.

U accept one and discard the other making u a terrible liar and heretic.

John 5:18, NIV: "For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." ... For he not only broke the Sabbath, he called God his Father, thereby making himself equal with God."

Liar Janosky says no man is equal with God. But Jesus claimed equality in John 5:18 @ bolded.

Who would u rather believe Lying JW or the Bible

No be me talk am o, nah I'm dey for bible

Good!
So since TRINITY is not written in God's word it's not mandatory that everyone must believe in the concept of TRINITY. Any right thinking person would welcome other ideas not making it a compulsion for everyone!

The same verse could be interpreted as "You must teach them all they need to know about the Father, the son and the holy spirit"

freshboi88:


MATTHEW 28:18-20 (KJV and NRSV) And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you.


Notice how scripture doesn't say in the names of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Instead it uses singular (name of).

That right here is the scriptural reference to the doctrine of the trinity.

No be me write am o nah so I'm dey for bible

If that's what GOD'S word says it should yield results so can you point to any unique result the doctrine brought to mankind or it's just another head knowledge of some kind without benefits?

Jesus foretold that there will be lots of false teachers in the last days misleading people, the only way to distinguish real servants of God is the result of their teachings! Matthew 7:15-20

So you've been swindled big time if you can't point to any positive result of what you believe it's erroneous interpretation Sir!

freshboi88:


That's not what my Bible says.

Dual nature of Christ. Son of God and Son of Man at the same time.

U accept one and discard the other making u a terrible liar and heretic.

John 5:18, NIV: "For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." ... For he not only broke the Sabbath, he called God his Father, [b] thereby making himself equal with God."

Liar Janosky says no man is equal with God. But Jesus claimed equality in John 5:18 @ bolded.

Who would u rather believe Lying JW or the Bible

No be me talk am o, nah I'm dey for bible

freshboi88:


They will twist the truth to suit their lies.

they certainly will