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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 6:59pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MightySparrow:How do you mean saying that "I am trying to explain that there's no particular Spirit, known as Holy Spirit"? Is that really all you computed in that concise post, hmm? |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MightySparrow: 7:04pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:I am trying to understand your post |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by sonmvayina(m): 7:12pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Beautiful...Jesus is just still a fictional super hero appearing in a document of unknown author. Published by the romans who were trying to create a single religion for their empire. He made his first appearance in a gospel story bearing the name Mark... |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by sonmvayina(m): 7:15pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MightySparrow: May this new year bring you peace and less Nairaland drama. Stay focused on the Torah and everything will be alright. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:28pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
Have you ever heard someone say "you've not known me by my name" {Exodus 6:3} even when you've been calling him by the same name? Genesis 18:3 Well when someone says "in the name of" the meaning is deeper than what most people think! Emusan: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 7:29pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MightySparrow:I appreciate that is what you want to try and do, but please dont give a false and/or misleading account of what I typed nah. It is very clear and unambiguous all what I typed in the post. sonmvayina:The Torah and the Old Testament laid the foundation for the New Testament. The Torah is the New Testament concealed, while the New Testament is the Torah and the Old Testament revealed. We use two hands to wash ourselves clean, lmso. Praise God. Alleluia |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by DiscipleFaith: 7:44pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. The Spirit that was upon Jesus and which is supposed to be on everyone who follows him. So no, there is no extra name for it. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 7:55pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:It might have a personal name, but I am not aware of the what the personal name is. It often is called Comforter, Paraclete, Helper, Spirit of Truth et cetera, but you being addressed here as Blabbermouth doesnt imply that is your personal name, lmso Emusan:Please dont tell me that you dont know that Matthew 28:19 is a latter addition/insertion to the Gospel according to Matthew, hmm? Blabbermouth:I wouldn't let that verse unduly arouse your interest because it is an insertion that isnt in the original text. No one know knows the personal name of the Holy Spirit, its just as, no one on the Religion forum knows your personal name, we know you as Blabbermouth, but Blabbermouth defo isnt your personal name, lmso. I guess it's a descriptor name you selected to use and be called by because you reckon you are revved up to be doing indiscreet talking on in here, lmso Emusan:The phrase "Holy Spirit" is a description, it isnt really a personal name Blabbermouth:Yhwh is not God's personal name. It also is a descriptor. Of course, I am sure you are aware its the four Hebrew alphabets Y, H, W and H, that when vocalised you end up with Yahweh. Emusan:"God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; this is how I am to be remembered in every generation."" - Exodus 3:15 "I am Yahweh, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another or My praise to idols." - Isaiah 42:8 "even Yahweh, the God of Armies; Yahweh is His name of renown!" - Hosea 12:5 God disclosed a descriptor name to Moshe aka Moses. Yahweh isnt God personal name, lmso. It is a revealing declaration, that is giving an expression of saying "I Self Exist" or simply "I AM" It also has the sense of saying "I AM that I AM" or "I become that I become" or "I shall be that I shall" et cetera Of course God has a personal name, but the Bible clearly, on at least three occasions refused to reveal what God's personal name is. The Bible politely gives the reason for not saying what God's personal name is, and the reason for not disclosing the personal name is because the name is wonderful, meaning it is impossible to understand, is not able to be understood and/or it is incomprehensible. Hearing what the name is, will render the hearer, dumbfounded, lost for words and effectively speechless. So the personal name of God is unknown. It is hidden, is a secret and again, it is because its meaning is beyond comprehension and it's a name that works miracles. The closest anyone will get to knowing or feeling what the name is will be through the expressive "I AM that I AM,” descriptor declaration. I can give more details on Exodus 3:15, if any is interested Emusan:Jesus is a name that means "Salvation is from Yahweh" or "Yahweh saves", while the Saviour is just another descriptor word. I can live with it if you want to settle with calling it a title or office, but though Yahshua Ha Mashiah, aka Jesus Christ, God Incarnate is our Lord, Owner of the Universe and Saviour of the whole wide world, He never used Saviour as a title/office. He often used the title Son of Man instead quite a lot of times, lmso 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MightySparrow: 8:00pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:ok |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 8:04pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MightySparrow:Feel free to ask questions, instead of slipping to distort what I typed |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Blabbermouth: 8:16pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Spot on. It seems DappaD said something similar about this Matthew 28:19, I will do a research on that.
MuttleyLaff - "No one knows the personal name of the holy spirit". MuttleyLaff, that might be right, but I need to ask - Do you believe He/it has a name? Spot on. It might not be his personal name, sure. Bringing it to our reality I can say - No one knows God's FIRST NAME, but He has given YHWH as his middle/other names. God himself said - Yahweh is my name. Hmmmmmm |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MightySparrow: 8:25pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Is there a particular Spirit called The Holy Spirit? |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 8:43pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
Name usually carry the idea of authority and identification, what that verse meant is that the All members of trinity are part of the name Jesus. Check this verse, Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 9:06pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: MightySparrow: MuttleyLaff:There is a particular Spirit called The Holy Spirit. I am sure that you know that the Holy Spirit is part of the Godhead. There are seven particular flavours of the Spirit that as a whole come to be called or be known as the "The Holy Spirit". |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by DappaD: 9:39pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: I guess you're mistaking me for someone else or you didn't grasp what I said. Jesus’ words at Matthew 28:19-20 corresponds with his parting words to his disciples at Acts 1:8 so the “name” recorded at Matthew 28:19 is actually what Jesus said but it can't be restricted to just that meaning only. Matthew 28:19-20 appears in the original Greek text—it wasn't spuriously added. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Nobody: 9:42pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
bingbagbo: If Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit, why did He talk of the different consequences of sinning against the Two of Them? Just curious. 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Nobody: 9:44pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
sonmvayina:Adults are discussing. Pls go and do your homework. 2 Likes |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Nobody: 9:45pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
sonmvayina:Adults are discussing. Pls go and do your homework. 3 Likes |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MightySparrow: 10:06pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:What is the nature of a Spirit |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 10:25pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MightySparrow:It is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. The nature of the Spirit is the nature of God. The nature of God, is the nature of the Spirit. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by bingbagbo(m): 12:48am On Jan 01, 2021 |
HedwigesMaduro: When He lived on this Earth as the man Jesus, He was lowered even though He was in the very form God. All those who insulted Him, reviled Him and Killed Him were forgiven. He is currently the Holy Spirit and any blasphemy against Him will never be forgiven |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 1:00am On Jan 01, 2021 |
livingchrist: You go just open mouth waaa So three people bear the name Jesus ? 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:30am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Jesus is here saying if anyone lied or slander him it's normal God will overlook such due to our imperfect condition but God will not tolerate anyone who lied or slander his active force. WHY? Jesus lived amongst us just like one of us having all our characteristics we may conclude that he is trying to make himself something or maybe he has gone to learn some magical tricks to woo people to his side, maybe he's planning to take over power. But when we see the positive result of his teachings on those who embrace it, it will not be tolerable from God's standpoint to attribute such a teaching that's yielding positive results to Satan, so God will never forgive the offender because there is no other way God could prove himself if not the fine positive results of his active force (holy spirit). Matthew 12:31-32 May you have PEACE! HedwigesMaduro: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:46am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Sorry to intervene in your discussion Sir! What you listed is not the nature of all spirits! Note that some people were insane in Jesus' day and it was as a result of spirit possessing them {Matthew 8:28-34} did you see the negative effect of those spirits on those possessed and the herd of pigs? So God is a spirit also all his heavenly sons (angels) this angels can favor or harm at will based on their countenance {Luke 1:19-20} but the active force of God only does things that will bring honour and praise to God that's why it is called "Holy Spirit" those attributes you listed up there belongs only to God's active force (Holy Spirit) MuttleyLaff: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 6:01am On Jan 01, 2021 |
MightySparrow: MuttleyLaff: MaxInDHouse:I am pleased to have you intervene in our discussion Sir albeit it is obvious you glaringly failed to see MightySparrow's specified distinction God is incorporeal, and so are celestial beings aka the angelic hosts of heaven, who by the way are never called nor addressed as heavenly sons of God I am happy that you are reinforcing my earlier point, where and when I typed that the Holy Spirit is, whole of the spirit, devoted to God and dedicated to the successful work of God. Now God's active force or active power (i.e. the Holy Spirit) It is from love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control that the Holy Spirit does things that will bring honour and praise to God. Now, it is described as the "Holy Spirit" like I earlier forwarded because it is the whole of the seven flavouring to the Spirit, lmso. I am sure you are aware that there are seven flavouring to the Spirit, lmso. "28When Jesus arrived on the other side of the lake, in the region of the Gadarenes,g two men who were possessed by demons met him. They came out of the tombs and were so violent that no one could go through that area. 29They began screaming at him, “Why are you interfering with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before God’s appointed time?” 30There happened to be a large herd of pigs feeding in the distance. 31So the demons begged, “If you cast us out, send us into that herd of pigs.” 32“All right, go!” Jesus commanded them. So the demons came out of the men and entered the pigs, and the whole herd plunged down the steep hillside into the lake and drowned in the water. 33The herdsmen fled to the nearby town, telling everyone what happened to the demon-possessed men. 34Then the entire town came out to meet Jesus, but they begged him to go away and leave them alone" - Matthew 8:28-34 Of course, there are spirits, equally with negative influence or there are spirits that exist to perpetuate negative effect(s). As for the case of Matthew 8:28-34, pigs are considered unclean animals and this looking at them, from the least POV, is because they are filthy, hence it makes good and calculating sense for the demons to request that they be evicted and given pass to have habitation in something unclean, since by nature they are unclean spirits anyway |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30am On Jan 01, 2021 |
The highlighted Sir! Please can you help interpret what Mr Job meant @ Job 38:7 compared to Revelation 22:16 MuttleyLaff: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 6:49am On Jan 01, 2021 |
MuttleyLaff: MaxInDHouse: MuttleyLaff:"Jesus replied, “You are a respected Jewish teacher, and yet you don’t understand these things? (i.e. You are the teacher of Israel, and do you not know these things?)" - John 3:10 MaxInDHouse, lmso, as you can read from my small extract above, taken from an earlier post of mine on another thread, Job 38:7 has no correlation with Revelation 22:16 to compare it with. If tbh, I dont think you are ready yet, to know and accept the truth of Revelation 22:16, lmso. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 7:52am On Jan 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: And the fact is that, the Holy Spirit has a name which negates your initial post that He doesn't! |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:54am On Jan 01, 2021 |
Jod 38:7 said the bright morning stars are sons of God and Revelations 22:16 said Jesus is also a morning Stars (one of them) MuttleyLaff: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Nobody: 7:59am On Jan 01, 2021 |
bingbagbo: I don't know if you guys read what you post. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 8:04am On Jan 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: OK! So God is a spirit also all his heavenly sons (angels) this angels can favor or harm at will based on their countenance {Luke 1:19-20} but the active force of God only does things that will bring honour and praise to God that's why it is called "Holy Spirit" those attributes you listed up there belongs only to God's active force (Holy Spirit) @color I keep wondering why you people will proof the personhood of the Holy Spirit in one breath and in the same vein denied His personality. You said "only does things that will bring honour and praise to God" For this statement to be true, it means the Holy Spirit is a separate identity from God and Has a MIND and WILL of His own (which is true according to the scripture) but your claim of Holy Spirit as an active force of God is meaningless since the above statement is true. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 8:25am On Jan 01, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:MaxInDHouse, this must the "unable to make distinction" season Are you trying to say that, you are unable to make the distinction between "the morning stars" and "the bright Morning Star" ni MaxInDHouse? Now if Job 38:7, was suggesting that when it says: "the bright morning stars are sons of God" it was referring to the celestial angelic host of heavens aka angels, then why pad in the wording "... and all the angels.." into "the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy", hmm? That will be an illogical superfluity and groundless repetition. C'mon now MaxInDHouse, this 2021, and you should by now have decided not to be saying what not the Bible said. Revelations 22:16 does not and/or did not say "Jesus is also a morning Stars" sic nor say He is one of them whats mentioned in Job 38:7. This is you introducing your incorrect preconceived idea and exercising your eisegesis skills, lmso. |
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