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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 2:11pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
livingchrist: That would make Jesus a Liar, he said Only the Father knows. So holy spirit also know ? 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 2:36pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
Barristter07:It doesnt make Jesus a liar, Jesus was only speaking in the context of persons that his disciples were familiar with and in that context only the father knew. Yes the holy spirit knew. 1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. See paul is saying the spirit of God knows the mind of God. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 2:48pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
livingchrist: Then Jesus is wrong that ONLY , ONLY , ONLY , ONLY , ONLY the Father knows. Two persons not one person as Jesus said 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 2:55pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
Barristter07:No sir! It is about the uniqueness of each personality |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 2:56pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Actually it speak of more authority than the other. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MrPRevailer(m): 2:58pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
bingbagbo: Jesus Christ is not the HolySpirit. John 15:26. "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:" Matthew 12:32 "And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come." |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 3:33pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
Barristter07:The bible is silent on that |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 3:34pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
shadeyinka:It's not. That text said it all 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 3:35pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
Barristter07:I don't know about that |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 3:46pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
shadeyinka: U do and your conscience bears witness, for a Holy spirit to be a Person, holy spirit is Greater than Christ and has more authority going by that verse. 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Blabbermouth: 3:56pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
livingchrist:Contextually speaking, the Holy spirit can ONLY know if He/she/it is not a person independent of the person of God the father. Who can know the things of man except the spirit of man? My spirit knows everything about me because it is what it is, My Spirit! Not another independent entity, it is my spirit! If the Holy spirit is an independent entity of the father, then He is part of the "NO ONE KNOWS" category. Whether you like it or not, that's the scriptural and logical truth. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 4:08pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
Barristter07:Believe what you will. It's a free world. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 4:56pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
Barristter07:yes the 'ONLY' is only limited to revealed persons. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
The only thing that the Bible is silent on is what Jesus said @ Matthew 24:36, apart from this God's Holy Spirit has taught true Christians all the remaining things Jesus (the word) didn't reveal! John 14:26, 16:12-13 Sorry Shadeyinka that's the work of God's Holy Spirit ~to teach the true Christians all sacred secrets except the day and hour! shadeyinka: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 9:24pm On Jan 03, 2021 |
MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: Barristter07:Shows that KJV is not inerrant |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by johnw47: 1:29am On Jan 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: false jw mad max having love joy and peace among your sect members doesn't mount for anything there is love joy and peace among many gatherings and not just religious gatherings, it's normal and is nothing new: Mat_5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:16am On Jan 04, 2021 |
It's when dealing with sacred things they pretends not to be sound in reasoning just to support their TRINITY dogheads. Deformation of character only becomes a crime in the case of someone having higher authority! Luke 12:10 Barristter07: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:37am On Jan 04, 2021 |
The father, Son and Holy Spirit are one with different functions but is there anyway people can get to see the functions of these three or are they just like the false gods in ancient times? The characteristics of dead gods back then is noisy attitudes of the worshipers when there is no positive results/benefits anywhere! So can you please present a gathering where Mr father, Mr Son and Mr Holy Spirit are at WORK since the three are invisible (to none worshipers) because i know you guys can see them even in the darkness, it's the unbelievers that's not seeing THEM/HIM Nuttella: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 5:08am On Jan 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Who is greater: the Father or the Holy Spirit? Who is greater: the Father or the Word? I know you'll go off tangent with this now as usual! The scripture that suggested the question in the first place was: Mat 12:31: "Why I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven to men." And Barristter07 said: Barristter07: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:33am On Jan 04, 2021 |
Do you think you can get anything contradicting what you've heard from me by engaging another JW? Well i've told you this several times but it seems you don't believe me so i'll repeat it again Whatever you hear from any member of the JW family is exactly what you'll get from any other member of the family throughout the globe. Jesus prayed that they should be made one just as himself and his father are one! John 17:20-23 So forget about JWs organization and look for any other religionist that you can share your thoughts with. Barrister is only being sarcastic about your Trinity concept, JEHOVAH is the one and only God that deserve our worship, Jesus is God's son who came as his PA to teach us how to worship God acceptably and the Holy Spirit is God's active force that will be given like a form of energizer to help worshipers accomplish the difficult tasks ahead of them. Go throughout the entire universe and see if you can find a single member of the JW family that will tell you something different. You can see the Churchgoers chatting with you and going back and forth with their beliefs but not JWs. We are of the same line of thought globally! 1Corinthians 1:10 Regarding the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the quoted verse, it simply means You're free to say anything against God's representatives since they appear just like you and you don't know what they do in secret, (Jesus only appeared to his contemporaries with good manners and fine upbringing speeches but nobody knows what this guy does in secret so you're free to think, say or do anything to him). But please please please don't speak against the proof God gives as evidence of his presence (Holy Spirit) because it's works is undeniable so whoever deny the works of God's Holy Spirit which all eyes can see as evidence of God's presence will never be forgiven" That's the import of the quoted verse Sir. May God bless you my friend! shadeyinka: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 5:50am On Jan 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:You should have answered the questions rather than going off at tangent as predicted! MaxInDHouse:Where you not in agreement with Barrister? |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:03am On Jan 04, 2021 |
shadeyinka:I respect you as an intelligent being and image of God, try to improve the level of your intelligence! What is the purpose of asking questions all the time when you already know that members of this group will give you the same response? Come on Shadeyinka you should be wiser than this, once you know what is published in our magazines and you're aware that it's believing (trusting) in those publications that makes one a JW. Your next line of action should be to present something of higher value and operational somewhere not questions upon questions that you already know what they will give you as response! Where you not in agreement with Barrister?Imagine this question of yours again! My friend, Maximus and Barrister both belongs to the same Organization (JW) and you know our logo is the same line of thought, so why asking me if i'm in agreement with my brother in faith? Well it's just a question, i'm in agreement with the Watchtower just as Barrister so we will always be in agreement! John 17:20-23 |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 6:56am On Jan 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:A member of your group said that the Holy Spirit is senior in rank to the Father and the Word. What do you want me to do except ask you how and by what justification is it true! 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 6:59am On Jan 04, 2021 |
Blabbermouth:God chose "I AM that I AM" obviously from YHWH (i.e. the Hebrew four-letter name, lmso) that is vocalised as Yahweh Yahweh, means "to be", "to exist", "to become" and literally "I AM ...'' while "I AM that I AM" revealed to Moshe aka Moses, is an expression of praise and statement about the outstanding merit about God that He said He wants to used as for an admiration of Him, an encomium and tribute for Him. Blabbermouth:[img]https://s8/images/Sheol-copy.jpg[/img] "Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it." - Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then Jesus called out in a loud voice, "Father, into Your hands I commit My Spirit." And when He had said this, He breathed His last." - Luke 23:46 "While they were stoning him, Stephen appealed, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."" - Acts 7:59 Your spirit man, if dead to God (i.e. spiritually dead, meaning you aren't "born again" as in, born from on high) will not know about the important things of God because of its disconnect with the Spirit of God (i.e.person isnt "born again'') I am sure you know that upon physical death, the body (i.e. flesh aka carnal man) goes back to the ground (i.e. as dust), the spirit aka spirit man, goes back God who first gave it and the soul, goes to either of two "holding" places shown in the above pasted picture, to await resurrection that will be followed by judgment. Blabbermouth:The Holy Spirit you're quite right is part of of the "NO ONE KNOWS" the personal name of the "The Holy Spirit", just as well as no one knows God's personal name PS: @shadeyinka, bro, I havent forgotten about our ongoing exchanges over you misunderstanding the sideline H20 (i.e. water) illustration I used, when comparing H20 and its configurations to solid, liquid and gas, to show the similarity with God, being Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Sorry I'll soon get round to you. I want to believe sha, that you know that water does exists in more form other the commonly known H20 composition lmso. Anyway, we'll delve more into this, when I share the reason why God for the most part, manifests Himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, lmso |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 7:02am On Jan 04, 2021 |
MuttleyLaff:Okay! |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 7:03am On Jan 04, 2021 |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06am On Jan 04, 2021 |
You're the one who keep saying "holy spirit is a person" so to make you reason deeply he told you if that's true then the position of the holy spirit must be higher than the FATHER and SON put together since the father forgives just as the son but the Holy Spirit doesn't. That's what he is telling you. There is no person called Holy Spirit, my brother is just being sarcastic with you! shadeyinka: |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MuttleyLaff: 7:18am On Jan 04, 2021 |
shadeyinka:I very much too, would like to see how true it is that, the Holy Spirit is senior in rank to the Father and the Word, lmso |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 7:24am On Jan 04, 2021 |
He wasn't being sarcastic. He was relaying your position MaxInDHouse:No person called the Holy Spirit. Yet 1. He can be grieved 2. He speaks 3. He teaches 4. He takes account of sin against himself. The difference between a BEING and a THING is the attributes of the WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT! 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Blabbermouth: 7:25am On Jan 04, 2021 |
MuttleyLaff:To start with, can you tell me leaving no stone unturned, the differences between your Soul and your Spirit? 1 Like |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by shadeyinka(m): 7:28am On Jan 04, 2021 |
MuttleyLaff:That was said by Barrister07 himself, representing the JWs here. Although Maximus is trying hard to correct his line of thought. |
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31am On Jan 04, 2021 |
That's why i said if that's true then you don't need all these arguments, just present a gathering of people where Mr Holy Spirit is working so everyone can see the benefits of his works. Note that it's when you see the performance of a technician that you go out to employ him, the same logic should be applied in the case of Mr Holy Spirit. Jesus said we should beg the father to give us the holy spirit, therefore to convince an unbeliever that he needs this spirit, all you need is point, show, present, name the group of persons where Mr Holy Spirit is working in their midst lóbátán! shadeyinka: |
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