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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:31pm On Jan 07, 2021
Matthew 24:36 is the point! wink

livingchrist:
so how many people knows the name Jesus is given to overcomers?
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 6:07pm On Jan 07, 2021
livingchrist:
If God is an exception for no one knows the name, therefore the holy Spirit is an exception to 'no one knows the day but only the father's simple anything other than that is self delusion and denial.

Why is God an exception to no one knows the name ? Let's see if that standard apply to Matthew 24:36

You are not smart , I dey tell you

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 6:15pm On Jan 07, 2021
Emusan:


Why can't you provide where A THING said to have the ABILITY TO KNOW?

Personification won't save your lying mouth here.


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Jesus entrusted His Spirit to His Father, so it's left for the Father to direct the Spirit to where He wants.




Human spirit is a person!

That entrusted spirit is Jesus right ? grin grin grin grin grin




At least you agreed that The Holy Spirit knows the MIND of God.

And with the evidence from the scripture, Holy Spirit is a person.

If Jesus lied it's up to you or you make Him to be a liar but the scripture is very cleared on that, in Him there's no falsehood.

So according to Jesus how many persons Know ?

grin grin grin

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Janosky: 8:05pm On Jan 07, 2021
Emusan:


Still repeating the same nonsense all the the times.

1. Holy Spirit has MIND
2. Holy Spirit can be grieved
3. Holy Spirit has the ability of KNOWING
4. Holy Spirit can hear
5. Holy Spirit can Speak
6. Holy Spirit has emotions
7. Holy Spirit has a will


Can you provide A PERSON who doesn't have ALL THESE?



Yes ONLY A PERSON has MIND

and the scripture says The Holy Spirit has MIND.

what's your point Mr lying liar?

The Bible says you are LYING, Mr LIENUS.

The Catholic Church, your Trinity mentors and Godfather of Trinity Scam PROVE that Mr LIENUS is a LIAR..
cheesy grin

Trinitarian source, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (Vol. 13, p. 575):

“The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God. When a quasi-personal activity is ascribed to God’s spirit, e.g., speaking, hindering, desiring, dwelling (Acts 8.29; 16.7; Rom 8.9), one is not justified in concluding immediately that in these passages God’s spirit is regarded as a Person; the same expressions are used also in regard to rhetorically personified things or abstract ideas (see Rom 8.6; 7.17). Thus, the context of the phrase ‘blasphemy against the spirit’ (Mt 12.31; cf. Mt 12.28; Lk 11.20), shows that reference is being made to the power of God.”


Yes, personifications are no positive proof of personality. For example, the Bible speaks of sin as ‘ruling as a king,’ “receiving an inducement,” ‘working out covetousness,’ ‘seducing,’ and ‘killing.’ (Rom. 5:21; 7:8-11) Wisdom is similarly personified and is spoken of as having “children” and “works.” (Matt. 11:19; Luke 7:35) Yet no one would claim that this means that “sin” and “wisdom” are persons. Likewise the personifying of God’s spirit does not conflict with clear Bible testimony that it is indeed “something, not someone.”

The Catholic Church, your Trinity mentors and Godfather have DISPROVE your FALSE claims as JWs have consistently been doing on this forum.

Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself.

Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by achorladey: 8:15pm On Jan 07, 2021
Emusan:


Now the narrative has changed and the delusion continues!


Perhaps he needs this from his words captured "but no single person outside the Organization can enter into the kingdom of our own God"

but his Watchtower says WRONG grin grin grin

Here it is below..........

Some tell us they cannot understand how the organizations formed by such good men as Wesley, Calvin, Luther, Knox and others can be properly considered parts of Babylon. "Were these not earnest and devoted followers of the Master?" Yes, we reply, we esteem all those our brethren who fearlessly stemmed the tide of popular opinion and braved persecution on every hand for the truth's sake. We believe they received and walked in the light due in their day. And so far as we are able to judge, the Reformers as well as many in humbler stations, whose names have not come down to us, were overcomers --part of the "little flock " whose names are written in heaven...............


All those mentioned above are TRINITARIANS I guess? grin grin Trinitarians already have their SEATS confirmed in HEAVEN long before Russell's death, long before the organization came to birth grin grin grin

They are not even part of the great crowd of other sheep but part of the little flock aka 144,000............heaven straight

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Janosky: 8:16pm On Jan 07, 2021
Emusan:


See another delusion, why can't you do yourself a favor by looking at other translations to see how this verses was put?

So that your delusion can be cured.



Mr LIENUS forever grin cheesy
◄ Luke 7:35 ►

New International Version
* But wisdom is proved right by all her children."

* New Living Translation
But wisdom is shown to be right by the lives of those who follow it.”

* English Standard Version
Yet wisdom is justified by all her children.”

*Berean Study Bible
But wisdom is vindicated by all her children.”

*Berean Literal Bible
And wisdom was justified by all her children."

*King James Bible
But wisdom is justified of all her children.

*New King James Version
But wisdom is justified by all her children.”

*New American Standard Bible
And yet wisdom is vindicated by all her children.”

*NASB 1995
"Yet wisdom is vindicated by all her children."

*NASB 1977
“Yet wisdom is vindicated by all her children.”

*Amplified Bible
Yet wisdom is vindicated and shown to be right by all her children ”

*Christian Standard Bible
Yet wisdom is vindicated by all her children.”

*Holman Christian Standard Bible
Yet wisdom is vindicated by all her children."

*American Standard Version
And wisdom is justified of all her children.


# Greek5043...
. Mr LIENUS grin grin
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Janosky: 8:22pm On Jan 07, 2021
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://media./images/ca3ac6f5ce09fea3ed95a53dadb388bb/tenor.gif[/img]
when you actually have dire need of the sense more than anyone else to receive, lmso











Continue DECEIVING yourself, grin grin grin cheesy

the Godfathers of Trinity, the Catholic Church, your Trinity mentors have PROVED the Bible & JWs are very accurate.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 8:52pm On Jan 07, 2021
Barristter07:


Why is God an exception to no one knows the name ? Let's see if that standard apply to Matthew 24:36

You are not smart , I dey tell you
Jesus said only those given the name knows the name, if another person knows the name it means Jesus is a liar going by your logic.
You are not bright, If you know the ditch you have fallen into you will throw your phone away.

You said God is exempted because he is the one that gave out the names and I said the Holy Spirit is exempted because He knows the mind of God.

It is either you agree with men and go along with the fact only or no one is used in a limited sense or you keep on shooting yourself on your foot endlessly.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 12:03am On Jan 08, 2021
livingchrist:
Jesus said only those given the name knows the name, if another person knows the name it means Jesus is a liar going by your logic.
You are not bright, If you know the ditch you have fallen into you will throw your phone away.

You said God is exempted because he is the one that gave out the names and I said the Holy Spirit is exempted because He knows the mind of God.

It is either you agree with men and go along with the fact only or no one is used in a limited sense or you keep on shooting yourself on your foot endlessly.
@bold

Who gave the Father the authority to know ?
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 4:11am On Jan 08, 2021
Barristter07:

@bold

Who gave the Father the authority to know ?

I don't know if you can comprehend a thing at all.
Reread it again more carefully

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 7:47am On Jan 08, 2021
Janosky:

Mr LIENUS forever grin cheesy ◄ Luke 7:35 ►
* New Living Translation But wisdom is shown to be right by the lives of those who follow it.
# Greek5043... . Mr LIENUS grin grin
Did you read this particular one?
I guess, your brain is in sleep mode when you're doing your copy and paste.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 7:58am On Jan 08, 2021
Janosky:


The Bible says you are LYING, Mr LIENUS.

The Catholic Church, your Trinity mentors and Godfather of Trinity Scam PROVE that Mr LIENUS is a LIAR..
cheesy grin

Trinitarian source, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (Vol. 13, p. 575):

“The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God. When a quasi-personal activity is ascribed to God’s spirit, e.g., speaking, hindering, desiring, dwelling (Acts 8.29; 16.7; Rom 8.9), one is not justified in concluding immediately that in these passages God’s spirit is regarded as a Person; the same expressions are used also in regard to rhetorically personified things or abstract ideas (see Rom 8.6; 7.17). Thus, the context of the phrase ‘blasphemy against the spirit’ (Mt 12.31; cf. Mt 12.28; Lk 11.20), shows that reference is being made to the power of God.”


Yes, personifications are no positive proof of personality. For example, the Bible speaks of sin as ‘ruling as a king,’ “receiving an inducement,” ‘working out covetousness,’ ‘seducing,’ and ‘killing.’ (Rom. 5:21; 7:8-11) Wisdom is similarly personified and is spoken of as having “children” and “works.” (Matt. 11:19; Luke 7:35) Yet no one would claim that this means that “sin” and “wisdom” are persons. Likewise the personifying of God’s spirit does not conflict with clear Bible testimony that it is indeed “something, not someone.”

The Catholic Church, your Trinity mentors and Godfather have DISPROVE your FALSE claims as JWs have consistently been doing on this forum.

Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself.


First of all, provide the link to this, let's see the words you left out as your lying organization usually does by misquoting sources to brainwash you people.

Secondly, so Catholic is your authority now not the scripture, besides how will Catholics believe in Trinity as One God in 3 PERSONS but will still claim Holy Spirit isn't a person.

Lastly, the question I asked, you didn't answer but decided to attack a strawman.

1. Holy Spirit has MIND
2. Holy Spirit can be grieved
3. Holy Spirit has the ability of KNOWING
4. Holy Spirit can hear
5. Holy Spirit can Speak
6. Holy Spirit has emotions
7. Holy Spirit has a will

Can you provide A PERSON who doesn't have ALL THESE

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 8:01am On Jan 08, 2021
Barristter07:
That entrusted spirit is Jesus right ? grin grin grin grin grin

Yes! And a person

So according to Jesus how many persons Know ?

grin grin grin

According to scripture Holy Spirit knows THE MIND OF GOD.

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by orisa37: 8:12am On Jan 08, 2021
bingbagbo:



His Name is Jesus


And His Name is God Almighty.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 8:59am On Jan 08, 2021
Emusan:


Yes! And a person

Your Yes indicate boldly that you meant what return to the Father that day was Jesus himself .

What are the Facts ?

Jesus said days after He has not yet ascended to the Father

Emusan: you ascend

Jesus: I didn't

Who is lying between you and Christ ?




According to scripture Holy Spirit knows THE MIND OF GOD.

Holy spirit is not the Father , right ?

So Jesus lied ONLY one persons when there are two

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 9:00am On Jan 08, 2021
livingchrist:
I don't know if you can comprehend a thing at all.
Reread it again more carefully

God gave the name through Jesus at Rev 2:17 this is why he and Jesus was Excluded.

To warrant exclusion, Who gave the Father the authority at Matt 24:36 ?

You are not smart.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Janosky: 12:15pm On Jan 08, 2021
Emusan:


First of all, provide the link to this, let's see the words you left out as your lying organization usually does by misquoting sources to brainwash you people.

Secondly, so Catholic is your authority now not the scripture, besides how will Catholics believe in Trinity as One God in 3 PERSONS but will still claim Holy Spirit isn't a person.

Lastly, the question I asked, you didn't answer but decided to attack a strawman.

1. Holy Spirit has MIND
2. Holy Spirit can be grieved
3. Holy Spirit has the ability of KNOWING
4. Holy Spirit can hear
5. Holy Spirit can Speak
6. Holy Spirit has emotions
7. Holy Spirit has a will

Can you provide A PERSON who doesn't have ALL THESE
grin cheesy grin cheesy
Your Trinity mentors, the Catholic Church knows that Trinity is NOT scriptural.
But retain the scam to keep Mr LIENUS and others in bondage..
In the entire Bible " God's spirit is NOT presented as a person" until Catholic Church FALSELY claim Matthew 28:19 for their 3 idol deity formula.
"When emotions or intellectual activity are attributed to God's spirit, such expressions are mere figures of speech" , Mr LIENUS open your eyes and ears, your Trinity mentors are reproving you.

Mr LIENUS, believe whatever rocks your boat, the Evidence is solid, your Trinity mentors the Catholic Church, who originated the scam doctrine DECEIVING you ,have given proof that their doctrine is very questionable and unbiblical.

grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

NB.
The pagination of the online copy & hardcopy of the New Catholic Encyclopedia differs..

Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 12:28pm On Jan 08, 2021
Barristter07:


God gave the name through Jesus at Rev 2:17 this is why he and Jesus was Excluded.

To warrant exclusion, Who gave the Father the authority at Matt 24:36 ?

You are not smart.
you are not smart.
There is a reason the father and Jesus are excluded right?
So also there is also a reason the holy Spirit is excluded.

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 12:31pm On Jan 08, 2021
Janosky:

grin cheesy grin cheesy Your Trinity mentors, the Catholic Church knows that Trinity is NOT scriptural.

Olodo...but Jesus is God, Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God according to the scripture.

But retain the scam to keep Mr LIENUS and others in bondage..

Just as your 8 men in USA are keeping all of you in bondage

In the entire Bible " God's spirit is NOT presented as a person" until Catholic Church FALSELY claim Matthew 28:19 for their 3 idol deity formula. "
grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

That is why you can't answer my simple question

These are the scriptural truth about the Holy Spirit

1. Holy Spirit has MIND
2. Holy Spirit can be grieved
3. Holy Spirit has the ability of KNOWING
4. Holy Spirit can hear
5. Holy Spirit can Speak
6. Holy Spirit has emotions
7. Holy Spirit has a will

My question is, can you present a PERSON who doesn't have any of these?

NB.
The pagination of the online copy & hardcopy of the New Catholic Encyclopedia differs..

Provide the link here...Ode!

From the screenshot everyone can see that the only portion you provided was in reference to OLD TESTAMENT not the description of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament which I believe the discussion will address indepth but as usual you resort to the tactics of your lying organization of cherry picking source to suit their demonic doctrines.

You can see the seed your father the Devil has planted in your life through your demonic 8 men.

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 12:51pm On Jan 08, 2021
Barristter07:
Your Yes indicate boldly that you meant what return to the Father that day was Jesus himself .

What are the Facts ?

You quoted the facts initially yourself, so stop asking nonsense question.

Jesus said days after He has not yet ascended to the Father

Emusan: you ascend

Jesus: I didn't

Who is lying between you and Christ ?

Like I said, always wearing your thinking cap but alas No but you'll keep exposing your ignorance on cyber space all the time.

Barnes Note is sufficient on this for you: "This is probably included in the word touch in this place; and the language of Jesus may mean this: "Do not approach me now for this purpose. Do not delay here. Other opportunities will yet be afforded to see me. I have not yet ascended - that is, I am not about to ascend immediately, but shall remain yet on earth to afford opportunity to my disciples to enjoy my presence."



Holy spirit is not the Father , right ?

So Jesus lied ONLY one persons when there are two

Yes and He's a person

Jesus didn't lie and the evidence from the scripture is that the Holy Spirit is a person because

1. The Holy Spirit has MIND
2. The Holy Spirit has ability to KNOW
3. The Holy Spirit has a will
4. The Holy Spirit can be grieved
5. The Holy Spirit has emotions
6. The Holy Spirit speaks
7. The Holy Spirit can be communicated with
8. The Holy Spirit has fellowship with believers

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 12:55pm On Jan 08, 2021
livingchrist:
you are not smart.
There is a reason the father and Jesus are excluded right?
So also there is also a reason the holy Spirit is excluded.
This is The biblical ground for exception

1Cor 15:27

For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says “everything” is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception.

At Rev 2:17 God and Christ who gave the name were exception because they are the Giver.


You mean Holy Spirit gave the Father what he knows ? That's the only ground for exception.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Janosky: 12:59pm On Jan 08, 2021
Emusan:


Olodo...but Jesus is God, Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God according to the scripture.



Just as your 8 men in USA are keeping all of you in bondage



That is why you can't answer my simple question

These are the scriptural truth about the Holy Spirit

1. Holy Spirit has MIND
2. Holy Spirit can be grieved
3. Holy Spirit has the ability of KNOWING
4. Holy Spirit can hear
5. Holy Spirit can Speak
6. Holy Spirit has emotions
7. Holy Spirit has a will

My question is, can you present a PERSON who doesn't have any of these?



Provide the link here...Ode!

From the screenshot everyone can see that the only portion you provided was in reference to OLD TESTAMENT not the description of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament which I believe the discussion will address indepth but as usual you resort to the tactics of your lying organization of cherry picking source to suit their demonic doctrines.

You can see the seed your father the Devil has planted in your life through your demonic 8 men.

Athanasian Creed is your Bible cheesy grin cheesy

Mr LIENUS, the Bible & the new Catholic Encyclopedia has answered your questions and DISPROVE your FALSE claims

Did the New Catholic Encyclopedia make those points in the screenshot ?
Shame on you.
As if you get liver, grin cheesy grin cheesy

Acts 15:28.."it seems to imply.." the Catholic Church is not even sure of there GIBBERISH anymore, Mr LIENUS carry am for head like gala grin cheesy grin cheesy

The holy spirit was transformed by the Catholic Church with introduction of Greek and Persian (pagan) ideas
grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Emusan(m): 1:11pm On Jan 08, 2021
Janosky:


Athanasian Creed is your Bible cheesy grin cheesy

Mr LIENUS, did the New Catholic Encyclopedia make those points in the screenshot ?
As if you get liver, grin cheesy grin cheesy

The holy spirit was transformed by the Catholic Church with introduction of Greek and Persian (pagan) ideas
grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

The great lying liar JWs Janonses can't provide the link simply because his lies and that of his father the Devil will be exposed.

Keep perambulating like a lost soul
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Janosky: 1:28pm On Jan 08, 2021
Emusan:


The great lying liar JWs Janonses can't provide the link simply because his lies and that of his father the Devil will be exposed.

Keep perambulating like a lost soul

Mr LIENUS, did the New Catholic Encyclopedia make those points in the screenshot ?
Continue DECEIVING yourself and console yourself..
Kpele cheesy grin
Your Trinity mentors disappointed you


Olodo, you no Sabi browse ?
You no get data ?
You no see "New Catholic Encyclopedia" for the Screenshots?
Shame on you
grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Janosky: 1:33pm On Jan 08, 2021
Emusan:


Did you read this particular one?

I guess, your brain is in sleep mode when you're doing your copy and paste.
Greek 5043, olodo LIENUS grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 1:36pm On Jan 08, 2021
Emusan:


You quoted the facts initially yourself, so stop asking nonsense question.

Like I said, always wearing your thinking cap but alas No but you'll keep exposing your ignorance on cyber space all the time.

Barnes Note is sufficient on this for you: "This is probably included in the word touch in this place; and the language of Jesus may mean this: "Do not approach me now for this purpose. Do not delay here. Other opportunities will yet be afforded to see me. I have not yet ascended - that is, I am not about to ascend immediately, but shall remain yet on earth to afford opportunity to my disciples to enjoy my presence."


Barnes never said he went to the Father before that moment .

Act 1:1,2


1 The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach+ 2 until the day that he was taken up, after he had given instructions through holy spirit to the apostles he had chosen.

Jesus Never went up until that Day .

According to Emusan, Jesus has been taken up before that day ?



Yes and He's a person

Jesus didn't lie and the evidence from the scripture is that the Holy Spirit is a person because

1. The Holy Spirit has MIND
2. The Holy Spirit has ability to KNOW
3. The Holy Spirit has a will
4. The Holy Spirit can be grieved
5. The Holy Spirit has emotions
6. The Holy Spirit speaks
7. The Holy Spirit can be communicated with
8. The Holy Spirit has fellowship with believers

Cognitive dissonance.

Check your two bolded statements, You just make Jesus a liar.

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 2:59pm On Jan 08, 2021
Barristter07:

This is The biblical ground for exception

1Cor 15:27

For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says “everything” is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception.

At Rev 2:17 God and Christ who gave the name were exception because they are the Giver.


You mean Holy Spirit gave the Father what he knows ? That's the only ground for exception.
This is the ground why the Holt Ghost is exempted

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

So you mean the Holy Ghost who knows the mind of God does not know the time of Christ coming?
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 3:20pm On Jan 08, 2021
livingchrist:
This is the ground why the Holt Ghost is exempted

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.


So you mean the Holy Ghost who knows the mind of God does not know the time of Christ coming?


Just as the spirit of man knows the things of a man and it's not a person, same here. This your ground only proves it's not a person and Jesus was right only one person knows.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 3:46pm On Jan 08, 2021
Barristter07:


Just as the spirit of man knows the things of a man and it's not a person, same here. This your ground only proves it's not a person and Jesus was right only one person knows.
Only a person can know things. The spirit of man is a person same as the spirit of God.
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by Barristter07: 5:51pm On Jan 08, 2021
livingchrist:
Only a person can know things. The spirit of man is a person same as the spirit of God.
One two .

If spirit of a man is a person, Did Jesus went to heaven the day he died?

Any result we get here will determine the bold .

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Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09pm On Jan 08, 2021
Knockout Question! undecided

Barristter07:

One two .
If spirit of a man is a person, Did Jesus went to heaven the day he died?
Any result we get here will determine the bold .
Re: Does The Holy Spirit Have A Name? by livingchrist: 7:25pm On Jan 08, 2021
Barristter07:

One two .

If spirit of a man is a person, Did Jesus went to heaven the day he died?

Any result we get here will determine the bold .
Where did Jesus say his Spirit is going to heaven after he died?

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