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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 4:32pm On Jan 14, 2021
ijawcitizen:
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There are certain things that need not rocket science to decide. "Ahia Waebule" was established before 13th century and founder of Bonny was an Igbo man that moved from Ndoki to Bonny in 13th century. The recent attempts at distorting clear truth only makes the revisionists look stupid to the academic world.

Ijaw itself has been claimed by a Nairalander in earlier days to be porters that escorted white men to Benin around 14th century probably picked up from Ghana and taught how to sail canoes by the Portuguese. Logically writing the migratory pattern of most Ijaw groups points to Benin and typical Ijaw dressing is a canterfeit of Scott attire of old. If thourough investigation is done 80% of those called Ijaw today have DNA of Igbo, Edo or Ibibio. The pure Ijaws are very dark and also share phenotype with dark Ghanaian tribes.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by pazienza(m): 7:28pm On Jan 14, 2021
Abagworo:


There are certain things that need not rocket science to decide. "Ahia Waebule" was established before 13th century and founder of Bonny was an Igbo man that moved from Ndoki to Bonny in 13th century. The recent attempts at distorting clear truth only makes the revisionists look stupid to the academic world.

Ijaw itself has been claimed by a Nairalander in earlier days to be porters that escorted white men to Benin around 14th century probably picked up from Ghana and taught how to sail canoes by the Portuguese. Logically writing the migratory pattern of most Ijaw groups points to Benin and typical Ijaw dressing is a canterfeit of Scott attire of old. If thourough investigation is done 80% of those called Ijaw today have DNA of Igbo, Edo or Ibibio. The pure Ijaws are very dark and also share phenotype with dark Ghanaian tribes.

What happened to you bro. Since Rochas left Douglas House, you became scarce here. Almost like Beaf disappeared after GEJ won 2011 election.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 9:17pm On Jan 14, 2021
pazienza:


What happened to you bro. Since Rochas left Douglas House, you became scarce here. Almost like Beaf disappeared after GEJ won 2011 election.

I was already scarce before Okorocha's departure as Imo Governor. He's a Senator now and also aspiring to be President 2023 so if it's about Okorocha I would still be campaigning but it has always been about truth.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by SaintBishop: 8:13am On Jan 15, 2021
Abagworo:


There are certain things that need not rocket science to decide. "Ahia Waebule" was established before 13th century and founder of Bonny was an Igbo man that moved from Ndoki to Bonny in 13th century. The recent attempts at distorting clear truth only makes the revisionists look stupid to the academic world.

Ijaw itself has been claimed by a Nairalander in earlier days to be porters that escorted white men to Benin around 14th century probably picked up from Ghana and taught how to sail canoes by the Portuguese. Logically writing the migratory pattern of most Ijaw groups points to Benin and typical Ijaw dressing is a canterfeit of Scott attire of old. If thourough investigation is done 80% of those called Ijaw today have DNA of Igbo, Edo or Ibibio. The pure Ijaws are very dark and also share phenotype with dark Ghanaian tribes.
Typical igbo clown! You will just sit in ur house and be typing nonsense.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by pazienza(m): 2:02pm On Jan 15, 2021
SaintBishop:
Typical igbo clown! You will just sit in ur house and be typing nonsense.

What he typed is the Truth.
The original Izon stock is of same phenotypic features as Ghanaians.

A DNA test would establish link between Izon and Ghana and the European porters theory sounds rational.

Izon language has no Link whatsoever to the YEAII (Yoruba, Edo,Akoko,Igbo,Igala) and Cross River language cluster of the original inhabitants of Southern Nigeria.

Izon is an anomaly, an external intrusion. A Good DNA analysis of the original Izon would establish this theory.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 2:37pm On Jan 15, 2021
SaintBishop:
Typical igbo clown! You will just sit in ur house and be typing nonsense.

If he restricts this to the Eastern Ijaw (Ibani, Kalabari, Kirike) he isn't far from the truth. But our ethnonationalistic way of looking at history won't let us admit it.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 10:37pm On Jan 15, 2021
RedboneSmith:


If he restricts this to the Eastern Ijaw (Ibani, Kalabari, Kirike) he isn't far from the truth. But our ethnonationalistic way of looking at history won't let us admit it.
Mr man i am from Okrika (kirike) and Okrika people don't have 80 % of igbo or ibibio dna.
Okrikans are 100% ijaws, so what that Abagworo type is nothing but trash.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by SaintBishop: 10:42pm On Jan 15, 2021
WorWorBoy:
Mr man i am from Okrika (kirike) and Okrika people don't have 80 % of igbo or ibibio dna.
Okrikans are 100% ijaws, so what that Abagworo type is nothing but trash.
Well said man well said! grin

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Allen102: 10:47pm On Jan 15, 2021
WorWorBoy:
Mr man i am from Okrika (kirike) and Okrika people don't have 80 % of igbo or ibibio dna.
Okrikans are 100% ijaws, so what that Abagworo type is nothing but trash.

Don't mind these clowns! i too know people way know other people history more than the people themselves.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 10:48pm On Jan 15, 2021
WorWorBoy:
Mr man i am from Okrika (kirike) and Okrika people don't have 80 % of igbo or ibibio dna.
Okrikans are 100% ijaws, so what that Abagworo type is nothing but trash.

You don't know your history. Okrika was founded by an Ijaw man married to an Igbo woman meaning it is a 50-50 in DNA from the onset but Africa being a patrilineal society qualifies Okrika as pure Ijaw. Years later thousands of Igbos mostly from Orlu, Umuahia and Mbaise plus Akwaibomites migrated to Okrika and got assimilated into the Ijaw thereby distorting the phenotype of the people. Among the Okrikas you will see the Ijaw phenotype in minority while Igbo/Ibibio phenotype is majority. How do you think the bilingual nature of Okrika occurred? It's from the maternal angle

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Allen102: 11:05pm On Jan 15, 2021
Abagworo:


You don't know your history. Okrika was founded by an Ijaw man married to an Igbo woman meaning it is a 50-50 in DNA from the onset but Africa being a patrilineal society qualifies Okrika as pure Ijaw. Years later thousands of Igbos mostly from Orlu, Umuahia and Mbaise plus Akwaibomites migrated to Okrika and got assimilated into the Ijaw thereby distorting the phenotype of the people. Among the Okrikas you will see the Ijaw phenotype in minority while Igbo/Ibibio phenotype is majority. How do you think the bilingual nature of Okrika occurred? It's from the maternal angle

You don't even know what are you are talking about, Okrika also know as Wakrike has 11 clans.
Orkrikans migrate from the delta ( Present day delta and Baysela state) and share nothing with igbos or ibibio.

So this your fairy tale of Okrika being found by ijaw man marry to igbo woman is nothing but hogwash!

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by SaintBishop: 11:17pm On Jan 15, 2021
Allen102:


You don't even know what are you are talking about, Okrika also know as Wakrike has 11 clans.
Orkrikans migrate from the delta ( Present day delta and Baysela state) and share nothing with igbos or ibibio.

So this your fairy tale of Okrika being found by ijaw man marry to igbo woman is nothing but hogwash!

Thank you!

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 12:33pm On Jan 16, 2021
WorWorBoy:
Mr man i am from Okrika (kirike) and Okrika people don't have 80 % of igbo or ibibio dna.
Okrikans are 100% ijaws, so what that Abagworo type is nothing but trash.

Yes, you're Ijaw 100%. You also have heavy Igbo ancestry. Why do we come online and argue things that are already well-known to anyone who cares about facts?

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by pazienza(m): 12:42pm On Jan 16, 2021
WorWorBoy:
Mr man i am from Okrika (kirike) and Okrika people don't have 80 % of igbo or ibibio dna.
Okrikans are 100% ijaws, so what that Abagworo type is nothing but trash.

Ijaw is a Franchise. Anyone can be Ijaw, since there is nothing like Ijaw language. All they need do is send invitation to INC and IYC and they become Ijaw. Reminds me Mr Biggs Franchise of those days.
I heard they recently inaugurated INC chapter in Oron , after some misguided and hungry Oron Youths invited them.

Like I said, Ijaw is a Fraudulent Franchise that will collapse under the weight of falsehood holding it together soon or later.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by SaintBishop: 2:35pm On Jan 16, 2021
pazienza:


Ijaw is a Franchise. Anyone can be Ijaw, since there is nothing like Ijaw language. All they need do is send invitation to INC and IYC and they become Ijaw. Reminds me Mr Biggs Franchise of those days.
I heard they recently inaugurated INC chapter in Oron , after some misguided and hungry Oron Youths invited them.

Like I said, Ijaw is a Fraudulent Franchise that will collapse under the weight of falsehood holding it together soon or later.

All these your long talk, how does it change the fact that worworboy is an ijaw boy from Okrika?

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by SaintBishop: 2:38pm On Jan 16, 2021
RedboneSmith:


Yes, you're Ijaw 100%. You also have heavy Igbo ancestry. Why do we come online and argue things that are already well-known to anyone who cares about facts?
how is it possible that u igbos know other people history more the people themselves? And which facts are u talking about?

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 3:17pm On Jan 16, 2021
SaintBishop:
how is it possible that u igbos know other people history more the people themselves? And which facts are u talking about?

I don't claim to know more about their history than they themselves. It is well-known to these people that they assimilated a large number of Igbos during the period of the slave trade. They know this. Their own historians have written books talking about these things. But some of them don't feel comfortable about it and would rather lie and deny when the topic comes up. They know the truth.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by ijawcitizen(m): 3:23pm On Jan 16, 2021
pazienza:


Ijaw is a Franchise. Anyone can be Ijaw, since there is nothing like Ijaw language. All they need do is send invitation to INC and IYC and they become Ijaw. Reminds me Mr Biggs Franchise of those days.
I heard they recently inaugurated INC chapter in Oron , after some misguided and hungry Oron Youths invited them.

Like I said, Ijaw is a Fraudulent Franchise that will collapse under the weight of falsehood holding it together soon or later.

You must be a very criminal element Pazienza just like your ancestrally disjointed Igbo fraudulent franchise. Oron chapter of IYC is a SPECIAL CHAPTER (just like Abuja and Lagos chapters) necessitated by the heavy presence of Andoni-Ijaws in that area, not because Oron are Ijaw. Oron may have close neighbourly ties with Andoni but they are not of Ijaw ancestry hence can not be Ijaws.

We are not like the your båstard franchise without ancestry formed by colonization and assimilation of territories of unsuspecting ethnic group by rabid migrant population.

You can not compare the ceremony in Oron which was attended by STRICTLY ANDONI/OBOLO-IJAW youths with the inauguration of NDOKI CHAPTER (not special chapter) which was attended by ALL NDOKI TRADITIONAL RULERS who stressed their Ijaw ancestry.

Like Ikwerre, Ndoki Ijaws have broken the stranglehold of your diabolic assimilation agenda of non-igbos territories into your fraudulent igbo franchise.

Very soon Igala, Ibibio and Idoma will be coming for their territories fraudulently claimed by igbos.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 7:34pm On Jan 16, 2021
ijawcitizen:


You must be a very criminal element Pazienza just like your ancestrally disjointed Igbo fraudulent franchise. Oron chapter of IYC is a SPECIAL CHAPTER (just like Abuja and Lagos chapters) necessitated by the heavy presence of Andoni-Ijaws in that area, not because Oron are Ijaw. Oron may have close neighbourly ties with Andoni but they are not of Ijaw ancestry hence can not be Ijaws.

We are not like the your båstard franchise without ancestry formed by colonization and assimilation of territories of unsuspecting ethnic group by rabid migrant population.

You can not compare the ceremony in Oron which was attended by STRICTLY ANDONI/OBOLO-IJAW youths with the inauguration of NDOKI CHAPTER (not special chapter) which was attended by ALL NDOKI TRADITIONAL RULERS who stressed their Ijaw ancestry.

Like Ikwerre, Ndoki Ijaws have broken the stranglehold of your diabolic assimilation agenda of non-igbos territories into your fraudulent igbo franchise.

Very soon Igala, Ibibio and Idoma will be coming for their territories fraudulently claimed by igbos.

Are Andonis now Ijaws? Abasi mbok

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 9:27pm On Jan 16, 2021
Before history was distorted

kiwi992:
Killahut,


Thanks for the input. 

I don't know as to whether you are a Kalabari or an Ijaw per se but I think there's too much of a leaning towards the Ijaws in your narration of Kalabari history.  It seems as though you are narrating it from the point of view of an Ijaw person - i.e. giving it an Ijaw perspective, if you see what I mean.

I say this because we, as Kalabari people, have never seen ourselves as Ijaws (although grouped by the colonialists as belonging to the Ijaw tribe).  The typical Ijaw towns (Nembe, Brass, Yenagoa, Sangama and so on) are much too far away from Kalabari kingdom, almost nearer to Warri and Sapele in the Mid-West than to the Kalabari towns and villages or indeed, Okrika, Bonny or Opobo.  Hope you get my point and not take offence at it 'cos any Kalabari would tell you that.

Having said that, I would say that you've shed some light on this, some things about which I'm either not aware, not taught, or have totally forgotten, being that I have been away from Nigeria for most of my life - 34 years to be precise and have never been home in all of those years!

As a primary school kid in BAKANA, I can't ever remember our being told about the existence of 'canoe houses' before the Portuguese came on the scene.  I can but, only go by the history of the Kalabari people as we were taught in primary school, and as narrated to us by the elders of the town

Still, you and I are not quite far-off in our narration of Kalabari history.  In saying that, I'm from Iyalla's compound in Bakana so do know that Fouche is Ifoko - a part of Bakana and not too far away from Iyalla polo.   

As I said before, I don't quite get the Ijaw part of your narrative, as we Kalabaris don't see ourselves as Ijaws.  Neither do I agree with you on the bit about Ibani, the Kalabari language, or the part about the other Kalabari towns not having moved from Elem Ama, amongst very many other points raised in your write-up.  Albeit, a good account of Kalabari history, I must say.

Understandably, none of us was present at the time the history of the Kalabari people was being made, that many hundreds of years ago, to give a witness account of what went on, hence must be most careful not to sound pedantic as if the one were present at the time.

I do know however, that Okrika and Kalabari have an almost identical language and fought so many wars in the olden days.  I never knew either that Ibani (Bonny) and Kalabari languages are similar!!  Surely, Kalabari language is NEVER similar to Ibani, or is it?  Never heard, never been told that, either.  In saying that, there was a guy from Bonny that lived in West Bromwich.  He dated my cousin and I can swear that he never sounded like a Kalabari whenever he spoke to me.  Never!  Okrika, most definitely yes but not Ibani (Bonny), as you seem to imply.  Maybe there's a mix-up here.    

Iyalla is the Kalabari name of my family whereas, the Europeans addressed us as 'Yellowe' in view of the skin-tone of my late forefathers.  Thus the name Yellowe is exactly the same as Iyalla and my family members bear either of those two names.  I'm a direct descendant of the Iyallas, as my dad, the late Dr C.I. Berepiki was the last born of Ine, daughter of Paramount Chief Iyalla.  My late uncle, Chief Vincent Yellowe was the chief of Iyalla's compound in Bakana, at the time I was at home.  I know for sure that the Iyalla family originates from Tombia (we have Iyalla's compound in Tombia even now), but not the Ibani Clan bit from which Tombia originates, according to you.  I also know that Paramount Chief Iyalla founded Bakana and handed over the ruling of the town to his cousin - Chief Braide, as he was the elder of the two.  I don't ever remember being told in primary school history class (or by the elders, when I was a kid at home), that Bakana fought against Elem Ama (Elem Kalabari) - whatever for?  However, I do know that Paramount Chief Iyalla and his people were the first to move from Elem Kalabari to found Bakana.

There are some other key points in your narrative about which I totally disagree and beg to differ because I don't live at home and so can not verify the facts from our elders.  That said, I'll never give credence to the history of the Kalabari people as written by the European colonialists other than one by the English anthropologist and crowned Kalabari chief -  Chief Dr Hutton of Buguma.  I guess he is still alive and living amongst his fellow-Kalabaris, even though a white man.

Maybe a Kalabari that lives at home, and is well-up on our history would come in here to add their piece to this discussion.  I would really want to have a third opinion on this.

Kalabari people, where are you?  Come in please.




kiwi992.
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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by pazienza(m): 9:33pm On Jan 16, 2021
Abagworo:


Are Andonis now Ijaws? Abasi mbok

Why not. Like I told already. Ijaw is a franchise, anyone can be Ijaw since there is nothing like Ijaw language. Know this and know Peace.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by pazienza(m): 9:43pm On Jan 16, 2021
ijawcitizen:


You must be a very criminal element Pazienza just like your ancestrally disjointed Igbo fraudulent franchise. Oron chapter of IYC is a SPECIAL CHAPTER (just like Abuja and Lagos chapters) necessitated by the heavy presence of Andoni-Ijaws in that area, not because Oron are Ijaw. Oron may have close neighbourly ties with Andoni but they are not of Ijaw ancestry hence can not be Ijaws.

We are not like the your båstard franchise without ancestry formed by colonization and assimilation of territories of unsuspecting ethnic group by rabid migrant population.

You can not compare the ceremony in Oron which was attended by STRICTLY ANDONI/OBOLO-IJAW youths with the inauguration of NDOKI CHAPTER (not special chapter) which was attended by ALL NDOKI TRADITIONAL RULERS who stressed their Ijaw ancestry.

Like Ikwerre, Ndoki Ijaws have broken the stranglehold of your diabolic assimilation agenda of non-igbos territories into your fraudulent igbo franchise.

Very soon Igala, Ibibio and Idoma will be coming for their territories fraudulently claimed by igbos.

On the Oron chapter of INC, that's not what my Ijaw sources say. But let's leave it for now, time will sort everything out.

On Ndoki. Here is the most important political figure in Ndoki land speaking about Igbo Presidency, notice his use of "We" to address his people Ndiigbo.
http://www.thetidenewsonline.com/2019/10/07/2023-wabara-explains-why-igbo-cant-produce-president-in-nigeria/

Your Ndoki mission is nothing but a joke. And the joke is on you. Boys want your oil pipeline protection national cake, if taking few pics with your desperate INC members means you give them some of them, then the Emeka, Ikechukwu, Ejike, Ebukas from Ndoki land wouldn't mind being part of your franchise, at least in pictures grin

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 10:11pm On Jan 16, 2021
pazienza:


Ijaw is a Franchise. Anyone can be Ijaw, since there is nothing like Ijaw language. All they need do is send invitation to INC and IYC and they become Ijaw. Reminds me Mr Biggs Franchise of those days.
I heard they recently inaugurated INC chapter in Oron , after some misguided and hungry Oron Youths invited them.

Like I said, Ijaw is a Fraudulent Franchise that will collapse under the weight of falsehood holding it together soon or later.

I am an ijaw man from Wakrike. My loyalty will always be with the ijaw nation and no where else. Anything other than that, i consider it as a fraud.

I don't understand why you quote me to type this crapola,when the ikwerres who are your so called brothers don't want anything to do with you.

Igbo man leave me and my people alone. We Okrikans know what is good for us and it is not igbo.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 10:54pm On Jan 16, 2021
ijawcitizen:


You must be a very criminal element Pazienza just like your ancestrally disjointed Igbo fraudulent franchise. Oron chapter of IYC is a SPECIAL CHAPTER (just like Abuja and Lagos chapters) necessitated by the heavy presence of Andoni-Ijaws in that area, not because Oron are Ijaw. Oron may have close neighbourly ties with Andoni but they are not of Ijaw ancestry hence can not be Ijaws.

We are not like the your båstard franchise without ancestry formed by colonization and assimilation of territories of unsuspecting ethnic group by rabid migrant population.

You can not compare the ceremony in Oron which was attended by STRICTLY ANDONI/OBOLO-IJAW youths with the inauguration of NDOKI CHAPTER (not special chapter) which was attended by ALL NDOKI TRADITIONAL RULERS who stressed their Ijaw ancestry.

Like Ikwerre, Ndoki Ijaws have broken the stranglehold of your diabolic assimilation agenda of non-igbos territories into your fraudulent igbo franchise.

Very soon Igala, Ibibio and Idoma will be coming for their territories fraudulently claimed by igbos.

D person paying u for these posts must be paying u well grin grin

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Shiver99: 7:39am On Jan 17, 2021
ijawcitizen:


You must be a very criminal element Pazienza just like your ancestrally disjointed Igbo fraudulent franchise. Oron chapter of IYC is a SPECIAL CHAPTER (just like Abuja and Lagos chapters) necessitated by the heavy presence of Andoni-Ijaws in that area, not because Oron are Ijaw. Oron may have close neighbourly ties with Andoni but they are not of Ijaw ancestry hence can not be Ijaws.

We are not like the your båstard franchise without ancestry formed by colonization and assimilation of territories of unsuspecting ethnic group by rabid migrant population.

You can not compare the ceremony in Oron which was attended by STRICTLY ANDONI/OBOLO-IJAW youths with the inauguration of NDOKI CHAPTER (not special chapter) which was attended by ALL NDOKI TRADITIONAL RULERS who stressed their Ijaw ancestry.

Like Ikwerre, Ndoki Ijaws have broken the stranglehold of your diabolic assimilation agenda of non-igbos territories into your fraudulent igbo franchise.

Very soon Igala, Ibibio and Idoma will be coming for their territories fraudulently claimed by igbos.

Wow. Something that is noteworthy about riverines is that they're much more liberal and accepting than Igbos.

A person with a clearly different history, language and culture than you trying to breach your ethnic organisation will raise serious eyebrows among the Igbos. But it seems it's not a problem for them.

Oh well. I trust Ndoki-ijaws.

Over time, they'll attempt to gain adequate representation in Ijaw organisations as a major Ijaw group; and cry foul if their sons are not represented at the helm of affairs.

They'll then insist Ndoki-ijaw language and culture be promoted in Ijaw schools along with core Ijaw, while refusing to marry core ijaws and only marrying themselves and igbo-speaking groups.

Sooner or later the Ndoki-ljaw language will supersede the core Ijaw language due to its similarities to one of the biggest languages in Africa, and Ndoki-ijaw names will soon follow.

After some time, riverines, who now primarily speak Ndoki-ijaw, will adopt Standard Igbo due to convenience, migratory patterns and increasing globalisation.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 7:49am On Jan 17, 2021
Shiver99:


Wow. Something that is noteworthy about riverines is that they're much more liberal and accepting than Igbos.

A person with a clearly different history, language and culture than you trying to breach your ethnic organisation will raise serious eyebrows among the Igbos. But it seems it's not a problem for them.

Oh well. I trust Ndoki-ijaws.

Over time, they'll attempt to acquire adequate representation in Ijaw organisations as a major Ijaw group, and cry foul if one of their sons is not represented at the helm of affairs.

They'll then insist Ndoki-ijaw language and culture be promoted in Ijaw schools along with core Ijaw, while refusing to marry core ijaws and only marrying themselves and igbo-speaking groups.

Sooner or later the Ndoki-ljaw language will supersede the core Ijaw language due to its similarities to one of the biggest ethnic languages in Africa, and Ndoki-ijaw names will soon follow.

After some time, riverines, who now primarily speak Ndoki-ijaw, will adopt Central Igbo due to migratory patterns and increasing globalisation.
this your Joke Shaa
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 10:59am On Jan 17, 2021
Shiver99:


Wow. Something that is noteworthy about riverines is that they're much more liberal and accepting than Igbos.

A person with a clearly different history, language and culture than you trying to breach your ethnic organisation will raise serious eyebrows among the Igbos. But it seems it's not a problem for them.

Oh well. I trust Ndoki-ijaws.

Over time, they'll attempt to gain adequate representation in Ijaw organisations as a major Ijaw group; and cry foul if their sons are not represented at the helm of affairs.

They'll then insist Ndoki-ijaw language and culture be promoted in Ijaw schools along with core Ijaw, while refusing to marry core ijaws and only marrying themselves and igbo-speaking groups.

Sooner or later the Ndoki-ljaw language will supersede the core Ijaw language due to its similarities to one of the biggest languages in Africa, and Ndoki-ijaw names will soon follow.

After some time, riverines, who now primarily speak Ndoki-ijaw , will adopt Standard Igbo due to convenience, migratory patterns and increasing globalisation.

What is Ndoki-Ijaw language, chi m? grin
What level of clownery is this? grin grin grin

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by ijawcitizen(m): 4:13pm On Jan 17, 2021
Abagworo:


Are Andonis now Ijaws? Abasi mbok
No, they are igbos as claimed by your people below

Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by ijawcitizen(m): 4:31pm On Jan 17, 2021
Abagworo, it is a shame you are quoting someone who left the shores of Ijawland as a child who did not even know what Kalabari is.

After all the enlightenment you've got from us all these years, you still choose to be this narrowminded and petty, grabbing on such worthless straws (like a sinking man) from years ago that even Kiwi who wrote this would be ashamed of by now.

How low can you possibly sink?

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by pazienza(m): 6:07pm On Jan 17, 2021
ijawcitizen:
Abagworo, it is a shame you are quoting someone who left the shores of Ijawland as a child who did not even know what Kalabari is.

After all the enlightenment you've got from us all these years, you still choose to be this narrowminded and petty, grabbing on such worthless straws (like a sinking man) from years ago that even Kiwi who wrote this would be ashamed of by now.

How low can you possibly sink?

You are only reaffirming what we are saying.
Current Ijaw is but a new and expanding Franchise.
Little wonder a real Kalabari man who left Nigeria eons ago before Kalabari joined the franchise is struggling to accept the Franchise. He is obviously not politically in tune with his people back home. He is only maintaining the cultural stance, which is that Kalabari has always been an independent ethnic nationality from Izon. cool

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 6:56pm On Jan 17, 2021
ijawcitizen:
Abagworo, it is a shame you are quoting someone who left the shores of Ijawland as a child who did not even know what Kalabari is.

After all the enlightenment you've got from us all these years, you still choose to be this narrowminded and petty, grabbing on such worthless straws (like a sinking man) from years ago that even Kiwi who wrote this would be ashamed of by now.

How low can you possibly sink?

Kalabari became Ijaw very recently around late 20th century because of the Niger Delta reawakening. Any Kalabari who left Nigeria before 2000 will likely be surprised when you address him as Ijaw. In the former Rivers State comprising Bayelsa we all knew who was Ijaw and Kalabari wasn't until recently. It is better we accept the truth that there was a Unification of Riverine peoples under an umbrella with Ijaw chosen as the name not that all riverine peoples are the Ijaw. Andoni based on traditional history migrated from Cameroun and speak Crossriver language. They had contacts with Ibibios, Ogonis, Igbos and Ijaws but maintained their distinct identity. Suddenly people from Bayelsa and Delta State jumped the entire Rivers to go claim Akwaibom territory even beyond Andoni.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 7:44pm On Jan 17, 2021
ijawcitizen:

No, they are igbos as claimed by your people below

Comprehension difficulties. Anytime Igbo comes up, it's like you people just lose your ability to actually understand what is being said.

The post never said Andoni is Igbo. The post said their language shares affinity with Igbo. Which is true: Andoni language is basically Ibibioid, with inputs from Igbo and Ijaw.

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