₦airaland Forum

samsard:
Nah. They'd most likely need the platform to give them a backdoor into the system. They simply don't have access. The FBI was pissed for example when Apple implemented end to end encryption on iCloud. In some countries like Brazil the courts weren't happy that the government didn't have access to WhatsApp messages and calls.

Ahh ok.. Good.. I hope so in Nigeria cos i dont trust.. The platform as u said might give in Nigeria.. Cos here government power is much onlise us.. But i hope it is as u said.. Thanks for d update.. Have a lovely day ahead

samsard:
They don't have access to end to end encrypted voice calls over internet on some apps.

But for some like NIA, Military might deciphering and decrypting equipment..

God1000:
The protest against the just concluded presidential election from different candidates is unprecedented in our history.

Nobody is rejoicing, Nigerians are also sad, I still remember the celebration in 2011 and 2015 respectively when Jonathan and Buhari won

Are the different candidates not pdp lite? Abegi

samsard:
The bolded is what has been bothering me. Why was a telephone conversation by a presidential candidate & popular clergyman being recorded? Who was recording it?
Definitely not going to have a regular cellular call if I need to have a conversation that needs to remain private.

No matter the call security agencies can. Eavesdrop if the want.. No be network u go use? U want to build ur own network provider?

Spy360:
I deliberately added the fourth one so that you would have no point. But you just turned amala for here.

The flipping does not affect the status. Stop confusing yourself. The status of Abuja is a special one.

I was banned.. That is why i could not replying you.. If you flip it the meaning of sentence remains the same. But i was trying to explain that Abuja special is liken to states(it is not a full state) that is why it comes all ways after the states.. It is deliberate from the constitutional writers so you know how exactly they special status of the state looks like and understand.. That is why it does not come b4 the states..

blackfish:
He didn't consult anyone before releasing a damaging response to the fake call recording within an hour that it was released.

This man should be stripped of his position in LP.

No amount of debunking the call subsequently will be believed by people again.

To make it worse, he is yet to delete the trash he posted 15hours ago.

This is my problem with my people.. I hate this attitude of ndigbo.. When did we become people who see white and call it black. Kenneth should be commended for saying the truth. Even if it cost us. Obi shouldn't have said such things. It only shows he is a desperate and prentensious man. Ndigbo say the truth no matter whose ox is goored.. Make una stop this covering of evil attitude..

nairalandkachy1:
https://dailytrust.com/just-in-oyedepo-breaks-silence-on-leaked-audio/

Oga u campaigned for Gej and atiku.. Which 1 is u don't campaign for politician.. Hmmm pastor think well ooo before u show yourself to have lied

trutharena:
You’re wasting your time asking him that question.

The Twitter space is just gathering of fellow Obiideensee trying to twist the narrative to say Tinubu sent the man. Then OP came to Nairaland to tell his fellow Obi supporters who won’t even think before swallowing the propaganda.

When tinubu later sent ekpa in obidients mind who cant tge frame? The same ekpa they worshipped be4 Obi declared for president. Lol

00FFT00:
See as I dey take look you?.

We are not fighting.. I thought u are one of those interim govt persons.. Who want to burn our nation.. But since u just try to see different opinion on the topic.. I humbly withdraw any insult.. Nigeria is the only country we have.. I have another but Nigeria is my only true one and father land.. Ya diri kwara gi na nma.. Nwanne.. Anyi bu ofu. Election or no election let love lead.. Shalom

IrawoKross:
I thought some Nairaland kids laughed at People living in the US that obtained permit to protest against the drug baron.

So dem still wan protest too? Lol

E pain u ba.. Henceforth is fire for fire. U no get monopoly

Spy360:
There are a lot of flaws here.

1. 'And' does not mean inclusive, it means both objects are distinct and carry equal statuses. Rice and Beans can also mean Beans and Rice. Now take this and apply to the constitution. Flip it...

25% in the FCT and two thirds of the states of the Federation

What did you understand?

2. FCT is not in the North Central as you claim. It exist alone as a separate entity.

3. FCT carries a special status because it is the constituency of the President and Head of State. The president is the administrative head of the FCT. The National Assembly is the legislative arm of the FCT. That's special status.

4. Section 299 of the constitution says FCT should be treated like it was a state. Means that it is not a state but should have access to all the benefits of other states. If I say, treat the boy like he was your child. It does not mean the boy is your child.

That means in an election it is also to be treated as a state.. No you arguement on rice and beans is flawed by flipping it.. Because the constitution clearly defines abuja as having a status of state, zhat is why the it comes after the 36 states always because it is being applied to assume.. In my example i was concentrating on the use of and.. Rice =food and beans is food here there is no specific cavaet for u to know for beans that is why u can flip it. But it the case of abut that is being attached to the states due to its special status, u can't just flip it because it draws it status to of how it is seen from the states.. When the states change it changes too..

00FFT00:
Nonsense!

And this qualifies your bragging rights?.
I'm happy to teach you the queen's language if you embrace humility.

That being said, who can mention any Nigerian ever declared president under the present constitution without winning the FCT?.

Thst it has nevet happened before foes not mean it can happen.. Now it has.. Same as a king of Abuja coming to win Abuja like kwankwaso did kano.. It has not happened yet does not mean it cant happen.. They law has taken care of that already... If you like u can continue to deceive yourself..

00FFT00:
Nonsense!

And this qualifies your bragging rights?.
I'm happy to teach you the queen's language if you embrace humility.

That being said, who can mention any Nigerian ever declared president under the present constitution without winning the FCT?.

It is not about bragging rights.. You can call it nonsense.. Sensible persons here who humble themselves will learn.. So for you mind the write up os only about you? Better wake up the world does not revolve around you.

Brendaniel:
Decisions taken by embassies can still be reversed by the main government because though they represent the government, they are not the main government...

An embassy is a representative of the government but with limits, that is why sometimes they grant visa to someone and he gets there and gets deported, the embassy cleared the person but the country did not...

.. No oga the person get reject by same system.. It like saying a class teacher and an assistant teacher.. If the assistant Mark and the class teacher correct their could be changes dues to mistake, something over loooked by assistant, that does mean the both are not workior represent the the same authority.. In fact when the ambassadors leave for his posting he must take a letter of credence from the president of his or her country to submit to the host president where he is going.. Signifying that he is the messenger of the president to him and representative.. Abeg if the are different why do u summon the embassy /ambassadors eg South African ambassadors during xenophobia when the government does something, why not go direct to the Federal government of the country when they are not the same? Na wa for una... Ooo. If person no go school una go use pride confuse people wey come learn for Nairaland. Please if 1 doesn't know sth ask so other can learnfrom your questions.. Some people are learning here.. Let stop saying thing that are false. There are thing that even logic can explain..

jaytee01:

My friend, stop being clever by half....the drug baron is not fooling anyone with that forged letter. The issue for determination is whether the CRIMINAL was involved in drug business and forfeited any funds as part of the criminal proceedings?

Are you saying that he forfeited his PERSONAL FUNDS to the US government?

Is there forfeiture in drug case? So Escobar who even had to bury money could not forfeit money for his freedom.. Hushpuppi forfeited yet he is not free. Dey just dey play.. Obingo

Brendaniel:
Tinubu was never supposed to be governor in the first place because of his crimes in the U.S, the document you guys keep posting was from U.S embassy in Lagos, that does not mean US government, it is just like saying the U.S embassy congratulated Tinubu as president elect and the U.S government has not.

Does the embassy congratulations mean that the U.S government has congratulated him?

Oga sorry i stopped reading here.. Please what is an embassy? Why is the compound in the us embassy seen as American territory? The ambassadors is zhe head of the embassy please what is an ambassador? If you answer this questions to understand the embassy is the representative of the a govt in a country you wont say that rubbish i bolded.

EmekaStanley:
This 25% FCT analogy is not really ambiguous as people are making it look. Is English no longer our Lingua Franca?

Supposing my friend Oshimiri has 30 friends and I decide to buy them gifts and I tell him; "Oshimiri, please come to my house with 24 of your friends AND SIMPLE JOE".

What this means is that I will be expecting Oshimiri to come with 25 of his friends, SIMPLE JOE inclusive.

If Oshimiri goes ahead to bring 25 of his friends without Simple Joe that I specifically mentioned. Has he fulfilled the condition or not? NO HE HAS NOT!

Let the judges do what is right.

ES

Your example is flawed because there is no prior definition of Simple joe and the friend.. Is simple joe consider also like the friends then coming without him and another friend in place of him is ok..

Here was one of my previous explanation on this matter..

It is not mandatory to score 25% in FcT abuja.. .. English is used in context. And according to the constitution is used conjunctively meaning to bring 2 things together. 36 states of the federation and Fct Abuja mean the two brought together.. Examples abound : Bread and butter, rice and beans, taye and kehinde, peter and paul used to show 2 persons are together 1 in the cases of twins. So it shows the provision of the constitution applies to them together.. Let me kind of explain it you mathematically...
The constitution says about Fct that all provisions will apply as if it is a state.. What this means in constitution is Nigeria states are from Abia to zamfara (36 states of the Federation) and Fct abuja.. Apples and oranges = apples together woth oranges, rice and beans =rice together with beans.. Taye and kehinde together as twins. 36 states and fct is 36 togetwith fct.
Nigeria states = 36 states of the Federation and fct
Let Nigeria states be x
X = 36 states of federation and the fct

So the provision of the law in the constitution applies to X.
25% in 2/3 of X = spread.. Where X= 36 states and fct Note the aim of the constitution here is to achieve a spread and not that a candidate votes only from a particular region acquire their votes... Fct is North central.. So your compulsory fct requirement immediately nullifies the reason the constitution wanted a spread. That means if i get my spread in other states of the Federation say i win and get 25% 34 states of the Federation a candidate who does not make 25% in say 30 states and wins abuja like kwankwaso won kano abuja maybe he is from abuka and popular, he immediately renders such a spread null amd void, that is against the spirit of the constitution..
Let me make it clearer..
If you sell food and i ask you..
Madan please i need 10 plates of Rice and beans.. Will you give me 10 plates of rice mixed with beans or will you bring 10 plates of rice and 10 plates of beans..

Another example.. Please give peter and paul 500 naira.. Will you give a total of 500 naira that the both share or you bring out each 500 to make 1000 naira in both case you will do the formmer 10 plates of rice mixed with beans and 500 to peter and paul..

Seriously you guys should not burn the country because you lost an election..

Note: The constitution tries to use spread to ensure the president is acceptable therefore it will be against the spirit of spread for FCT to compulsory.. Let assume Tinubu and Atiku didn't partake in the election let say we remove them now obi is first whin his 12 state and lets assume kano was FCT.. Are obidient telling us because Kwankwaso massacred. Obi in FCT , therefore the election will be rerun even though kwankwaso didn't get 25% in almost any other state? what this means is a popular Abuja candidate like kwankwaso is in kano .. Can actually upset an election where some has spread in more than28 to 30 states of the Federation.. The spirit of the constitution is not contradictory.. So going again to your point the president is governor of fct so if he must govern the people he must be acceptable to them by scoring 1/4 of the votes cast.. And i want to ask you who votes for the national assembly senate and Reps who makes laws for abuja.. Is it residents of abuja? The rest of the Federation decides who makes the law in abuja and it shows you also the constitution and democracy says the majority will decide.. So Abuja does not have the power that is votes overide 36 others.. So infact it is more the others states decide too the governor just like the decide the national assembly.. I rest my case

Spy360:
Your problem is too much pidgin English

By using the word and you have separated them already.

You either use with or including.

I ate rice with beans.

Vegetable salad with cream.

Fried rice with chicken sauce.

These are inclusive.

The constitution told you and is conjuctive meaning joining.. In English and is also to join and not to separate.. Infact Conjuctions in English are used to join a main clause and insubordinate clauses, phrases and main sentence and also 2 sentences etc. With is also conjunction.. Let me reply Op. Later i will make a comprehensive breakdown of his example and show him why his example is wrong.. In his example simple joe was not given a special status.. If simple is considered as friend.. Then he could actually bring just friends.. U get it

You guys should pay me for this English breakdown ooo.. I spent years learning for SAT 1 and 2 and toefl in my secondary day in early 2000s so make una pay up joor.

IyaebeTheGreat:
She's right , if a lady is not willing and you succeeded in begging her ( that's truly an emotional manipulation) to have your way with her, then it's rape because her initial refusal is what matters.

That means women too are armed robbers because the manipulate sexually and emotional to collect money from men.. So let agree asking for money or help is Armed Robbery while begging for sex is rape.. Shikena.. Women can't only define what favors them..

rejoice4eva:
APPEAR AND DISAPPEAR season again?
Una no dey tire?

My friend there is a president. Tinubu is not the president. Concentrate of the president. May 29th u will see Tinubu thst is when his time start.. Wailers no dey fail to show their stupidity..

SmartPolician:
Chimaroke, go and work with Tinubu, your lord and master. We don't need advice from killers and thugs.

BTW, the most significant thing Tinubu should do for Nigeria is restructuring. This is something the South West has called for, for decades now.

That will show us if he's there to represent his selfish interest or those of his people.

A stubborn goat follows the corpse to the grave.. Continue to remain adamant.. If you were wise you will understand how important time is and how it counts in development...

peter0071:
for Lagos to do it, there is a political angle to it...being that it was approved and licensed by the so-called Federal government.

Anambra state built an international cargo airport (under governor Obiano) but up till date, the federal government has not given them full approval for operation.

sincerely yours, the Igbos and stackholders are really trying their best to get things done. But the powers that be are truncating most efforts

We should try being nice.. As i said.. You cannot call me names, threaten me etc and ask me to allow u park ur car infront of my house.. I have said it more than 100 times we need to change political pattern.. We have been using hostility. It is not working let us change.. They will call me names but i am only saying the truth.. Only a foolish man does tge same thing over and over again and expect a different result.. Ndewoo

Wiseandtrue:
If they are not constituting nuisance, you can park your car comfortably and repair when you are ready

Why are some Nigerians in love with their oppressors

You guys love to celebrate mediocrity in this country

Can u do this in Anambra?

peter0071:
if the Igbos decide to focus on Imports only, how is that a problem to you? i ask humbly

secondly, to do export, you still need a point of Exit. so when Igbo want to export their own Products, which port should they use?? Laos Ports?? every country needs a point of Product exit. So many products are being exported from Nigeria and Igboland...but most of these products use Lagos Sea Ports are their exit points.

Give them what they want and see the economy boom in that region.

I am Igbo...not Ipob

It is a problem to me because i am a bona-fide son of the soil a royal one at that so you get it.. I help lots of people till today, my WhatsApp message and Facebook is loaded with good day bro,. How far how u dey? I do not ask how they are doing anymore.. Cos that initiates the billing direct. So anything to get the employment rate up is good for me.

Secondly having a seaport is good and i never saw where my write up said it is bad so i am saying you dont have to wait for FG. Lagos did it alone and i see no reason the 5 southeast states cannot do it.. If it is that important to us. I also mean for the economy of the southeast. the mentality of importation should be replaced woth exportation.. So please which part of my messages did you not understand?

1. Lekki Seaport was a total Lagos state project.. Uou cannot tell me the 5 igbo states can't come together to build just 1.. Na so Biafra want to be successful?
2. What is thos whole seaport seaport talk like is the only way to success.. No it isn't.. There are eurooeacountries doing well without port... This whole port is being talked about solely for importation in most igbo people head, why not start thinking of exporting.. You want to continue import and export jobs out when we are still under unemployment... Ndigbo should focus on export cos if u continue this your import mentality biafra too will die quicker than Nigeria.. My 2cents

Owologbo:
I said what I said based on my community experience.

.. Ok.. Maybe those are criminals.. But the normal ones we have in our state have where the settle, they roam and come back there.. And the pay for the place thry stay..

Brendaniel:
Oga it is like trying to compare Adenuga's son and with a poor man's son starting the same business at the same time with their father's wealth and expect the poor man's son to just overtake the Adenuga's son, be calming down abeg, other states especially Lagos already had head start after the war....

So how far Adenuga son and wizkid, psquare, burnaboy etc has it not happened?