OldNairalander: Sometimes you children need to sit down and listen to elders before making controversial comments . That's how uninformed young Nigerians returned a dictator as President despite the warnings of us that saw his rule.
I was in Awka live when the then military governor handed over to Mbadinuju so I can tell you the state of Anambra politics.
Peter OBI remains the best governor Anambra and South East have ever produced since 1999. As far as am concerned, Peter OBI is a one term governor because his first term was full of frustration and distractions from opposing camps that wants the old order to remain. Peter OBI fought for the liberation of Anambra state all through his first tenure and still achieved so much in his second tenure. He built consolidated development template for Anambra state which Obiano used throughout his tenure and even the talkative Soludo is using. Stop all this childish comparisons
Oga obi did nothing.. If so Ngige did better than. Obi using ur logic.. He had a troubled tenure yet he did visible things.. Obi spent 8years with nothing to show for it
EmeeNaka: During the 2015 election, APC introduced the method of rigging involving getting unimaginable votes from few states to win presidency or unimaginable votes from few local governments to win governorship. But with BVAS, they changed tactics to falsifying results and declaring themselves winner hoping to use court to justify their acts. Even with a lesser result, Binani can be declared winner by APC INEC and, APC controlled supreme Court will validate it; the same court that gave Ahmed Lawan, Akpabio and Umahi ticket to win senate. That is the type of democracy that Nigeria Currently practices.
Which court gave Bala Mohammed win? Which court gave bayelsa to pdp? Which court gave zamfara to pdp? Which court made apc without candidate in election in River state? Your papa court? Pained loser
tungamaje: If you read my earlier comment, you would understand what my point is. Abuja is the current mini Nigeria where every tribe, religion and culture is equally represented unlike Lagos, Kano or Kaduna. Wherever you stay in Abuja, you are likely to be neighbours to people from close to 30 states. Tell me whether that is the case in Lagos, Kano and Kaduna Based on the fact that Nigerians vote based on tribal and religious affiliations, that you won massively in all parts of Nigeria would also be reflected on your performance in Abuja. At least to secure 25% would never be a problem unless you didn't actually perform very well nationwide. In Kano, a southern Christian candidate for instance would definitely not perform very well due to obvious facts. But in Abuja where every tribe is equally represented, Muslims would never determine who wins. Same as in Igboland for example where a northern Muslim would find it hard to win. In Abuja, no candidate can have such advantage over others. So if you couldn't get at least such small percentage in Abuja, how did you win massively nationwide? Now you get my point?
Oga u cant instill your own opinion in constitution .. Constitution didn't saythat. If u talkof mixture of tribe culture etc u can find it in lagos, abuja, kano, kaduna.. So if u have to get 25% in fct, u have do so in others places with such demography.. This places are also mini Nigeria...
tungamaje: My man, I don't argue with babies. I said Abuja is different from any other state as people every tribe, religion and religion are equally represented there. Are people from every state EQUALLY represented in Lagos, Kaduna and Kano?
Of course yes.. Lagos was a former Fct as u always claim so people and tribe and culture are equally represented in lagos, kano and kaduna unless u have never been there.. Infact in lagos non indigenes win elections and represent in their govetning system in Abuja only hausa muslim is an fct minisso what exactly are you saying?
tungamaje: How I wish I would love this comment 10 times. I wonder why people ask how Abuja residents are superior to others. In every locality you are residing in Abuja you won't be surprised you are neighbours to people from more than 25 states which no other Nigerian state can boast of. In fact Abuja is a mini Nigeria with all tribes, religions and cultures equally represented. Now bearing in mind that Nigerians vote based on tribe and religion, your nationwide acceptance must definitely reflect on your performance in Abuja
If so obi needs to score 25% in lagos, kano, kaduna to because just like abuja it is mini Nigeria all tribes, Religion and culture are found there too.
crazygod: If FCT wasn't special as you claim, the constitution would have be written like 25% of all states in Nigeria INCLUDING FCT. Not AND fct. It's like saying give your Dad 25% of your salary and your Mum. That means another 25% is going to your Mom.
Give your dad and mom 25% ofyour salary.. Oya tell us what it means..
Ttalk: Abuja is not a home to all tribes, where that is applicable is in National Assembly, not even in Aso Villa, the notion that Abuja harbors all tribes of Nigerians is a self-deceit fallacy.
That analogy should not be used to explain the peculiarity of the FCT, Nigerian Constitution never gives preference power to FCT.
Again, Nigeria election is about the highest vote or simple majority. Emphasis is never placed on a Polling Unit, Ward, Constituency, Senatorial District, Territory, or State as a prerequisite for winning an election, what the constitution emphasized is the highest number in those places.
A candidate who loses his polling booth, his ward, his constituency, his senatorial district, and his state will be declared the winner if he gets the highest vote in the election.
25% vote cast in 2/3 states and FCT is clear enough, if FCT was intended to be required, the use of "in" would have been inserted.
The clause would have read 25% in 2/3 states and "in" FCT.
2 crate of beer for u. U have finished work.. Also every state has a mini fct, the state capital so why is 25% in state capital compulsory for governorship, instead it is 25% in 2/3 of all the LGAs in the state. Obidients truelly are the dumbest of Nigerian populace.. I have cone to accept that..
I am therefore hoping that the Nairaland moderators would be magnanimous enough to push this rejoinder or correction to the front page as well.
Firstly, let me make this clear When a lie is repeated so many times, people tend to believe it as the truth. This we have seen in APC in the past and they have not changed.
The constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (section 134 subsections 1 & 2) states as follows: “Section 134 1. A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected, where, there being only two candidates for the election a. he has the majority of votes cast at the election; and b. he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja. 2. A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election a. he has the highest number of votes cast at the election; and b. he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja”
Now, let me educate the professor and some of his few fans that FCT is conferred a special status by the Nigeria constitution. I will treat this topic with the following subheads. I could merge some of these into one subhead to reduce the length of the discourse
i. The President is the Governor of FCT while the National Assembly is the legislative assembly (Section 301) and the president governs the t by proxy (Section 302) and appoints the Chief Judge of the FCT (Section 256:1 &2)
ii. The FCT is deemed a mini or little Nigeria (Section 2: 2)
iii. The FCT is NOT a federating state (Section 3:1)
iv. FCT has one Senator, other federating states have three senators each (Section 48)
v. All Federating states have a Governor, a legislative assembly, and a judiciary, with the Chief Judge appointed by the governor
1. The President is the "Governor of FCT" while the National Assembly is the legislative assembly (Section 301) and he governs the FCT by proxy (Section 302) and appoints the Chief Judge of the FCT (Section 256:1 &2)
For anyone to be governor of a state, you MUST be elected by a majority of votes cast and score ¼ of at least 2/3 of the LGAs in the state. This is the provision of Section 179 of the Nigerian Constitution. Taken in the same context, the president CANNOT be elected without having 1/4 of FCT votes, Take note that by the provisions of Sections 256 (1&2), 301 and 302, state that the President is deemed to be governor of the FCT. He appoints a minister to govern on his behalf. So, just like a governor cannot be elected unless he fulfills the requirements of sections 178 and 179, the president MUST fulfill the requirement of ¼ of the votes in the FCT to be elected as its governor. This is the context with which Section 134 (2) was written and it is not ambiguous and does not need a professor to teach us what the constitution means by adding a conjunction[b] AND[/b]
The FCT as a mini-Nigeria and Not a Federating state (Sections2 &3). The Constitution states "Nigeria shall be a Federation consisting of States and [b]a Federal Capital Territory". [/b]
The constitution envisaged a situation where a presidential candidate may win in his region tribe or zone but only pick some votes in other regions due to tribal and religious inclination, hence to be a president of Nigeria, you MUST have been voted for by ¼ of miniature Nigeria, the FCT. The fact here is that whereas some states are ethnically dominated, the FCT is assumed to provide equal representations of each of the Federating States of Nigeria, This confers to the voters of FCT a SPECIAL STATUS. Quite unlike the professor tried to "teach" us.
The FCT is NOT a federating state but rather deemed a State ONLY for the purposes of GOVERNANCE. Hence Nigeria DOES NOT have 37 states as being wrongfully portrayed for selfish reasons
All the federating states are listed in Section 3:1, but the FCT is not listed there. So, to understand the provisions of Section 299, you need to read in context the section and the subsequent subsections. You cannot just pick and chose, but read to understand the intent of the section. Unlike the FCT, which is the capital of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, each state has a capital. Section 3:3 states “The headquarters of the Governor of each State shall be known as the Capital City of that State as shown in the third column of the said Part I of the First Schedule opposite the State named in the first column thereof”. Here is the catch, to be elected as governor, you need to score 25% in 2/3 of the LGAs of the state. The constitution does not recognize the State Capital as it recognized the FCT for the Federal Republic of Nigeria. This clearly confers on the FCT voter a SPECIAL STATUS
The misconception of Section 299 shows that some of our lawyers need to be re-educated. With all due respect, let us examine Section 299. It states as follows: 299. The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation; and accordingly – a. all the legislative powers, the executive powers and the judicial powers vested in the House of Assembly, the Governor of a State and in the courts of a State shall, respectively, vest in the National Assembly, the President of the Federation and in the courts which by virtue of the foregoing provisions are courts established for the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja; b. all the powers referred to in paragraph (a) of this section shall be exercised in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution; and c. the provisions of this Constitution pertaining to the matters aforesaid shall be read with such modifications and adaptations as may be reasonably necessary to bring them into conformity with the provisions of this section. Even a not too educated person would know that the above provision DOES NO[/b]T confer on FCT the status of a federating state. Hence the argument that Nigeria has 37 states is clearly [b]FALSE.
F[b]CT has one Senator, other federating states have three senators each (Section 48) and 2HOR members. [/b] No need to belabor this topic, it simply shows that FCT has a SPECIAL STATUS because all other states have 3 senators.
So, with all due respect, someone needs to tell Professor Osunbor that he was wrong, because, if his student had put up this argument in an exam, he would probably have failed him/her.
Very illogical write up.. So how come the 36 states are voting the members of the house of assembly for your so called FCT.. The FCT residents get to vote for only 1 out of 109 senator who will make laws for it that is even less than 1% of votes needed to vote in members for the house of assembly in FCT...
2.. This whole 25% is a must is so foolish that i ask in all the 36 states, the all have the equivalent of FCT which is the state capital... Please show me 1 state where when deciding in the governorship you count compulsorily 25% in capital. And without the capital the person who doesn't score 25% in the capital person doesn't become governor.. The normal way is 25% in 2/3 of all the LGA in the state and majority of lawful votes caste to be governor. So like my state imo with 27 LGA All u need is score 25% in 18 LGA whether owerri municipal LGA is inside your 18 LGA or not you have met the requirements.. That is exactly how it works at federal level too.... I am sure if u check obi first term as governor, u might be surprised he did not win awka and did not score 25% in awka which is the capital of Anambra.. And he was governor for 8 years
gaby: I understand and respect your opinion. But I need you to think about why all of the aforementioned are called and referred to as "States" bar the FCT.
I'm not claiming to be right just trying to exercise my brain jare...
I'm good with however the court interprets it.
Are u people not the ones who remind us how lagos was developed as a former fct? So at what point does lagos lose it Nigerianess as melting point of all Nigerians? The moment obi won fct?
00FFT00: I have had the privilege of speaking to an aged but learned gentleman who was Instrumental in shaping the constitution we operate today.
It makes sense to accredit the FCT as our unity certifiers. FCT is our capital territory, specifically created for same purpose, has neither a governor nor an assembly of its own, has due representation of Nigeria's people and is central.
In any case, the constitution wants to see 1/3 of the votes cast in this location accrue to the candidate with majority votes cast in a presidential election to be declared a winner. This is the law.
The FCT is our electoral college.
Is it that obidients dont read or is that you people read and dont understand? When i quoted the condition of section 299 of constitution, have u bothered to look at it or u read it and didn't understand let me help again..
Once again i have helped u to make it clearer, with the image below. if u dont undertsand it after now, my brother leave English and education is not your calling go and continue with petty trading.. Sorry i dont mean. It as insult but just that this area of undyou dont have it, if you dont get it after this last message to you.. It is better to let u live in your own world
00FFT00: So, I suspect you already know the answer to the question you asked. For clarity, the intention of the framers is to avoid a silo presidency. That means, a candidate, having received a majority of votes cast, must also demonstrably enjoy popularity among Nigerian ethnicities, not only from his tribe or ethnicity.
Where do you find a convergence of every member of Nigeria's ethnic group today, the FCT. The constitution writers intend Nigeria's president to have received 1/3 of the votes cast in our center of unity. Predictably, Tinubu's team knew their party will face difficulty in this location, but they did not anticipate the low level of votes harvest on their behalf.
This is the major reason behind Mahmood Yakubu's hasty 4 am winner declaration while Nigerians slept. APC Governors subjected Yakubu to intense pressure to declare him the winner to forestall the possibility of collation halt through an ex-parte court order later in the day.
Stop putting your own.. That means yoz must also score 25% inLagos, kano, kaduna because in this states you must find all Nigerians.. So it cannot apply to FcT alone..
socialmediaman: If the writers wanted FCT to be treated as a state, they would have made it clear that FCT will be treated as a state for that section.
They did it in some sections where they wanted the FCT to be treated like a state for a specific section of the constitution
Oga section 299 already took care of that. Fct should be treated as if it were 1 on the state of the federation and further told u it will apply through out the constitution so what else did u want.. Abi pus dey ur ears?
gaby: I understand and respect your opinion. But I need you to think about why all of the aforementioned are called and referred to as "States" bar the FCT.
I'm not claiming to be right just trying to exercise my brain jare...
I'm good with however the court interprets it.
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The constitution can not encourage discrimination... U get.. We are all try to understand each other. Bro no worries here
But they constitution also said fct should be treated as one of the states of tge federation.. If it is so then aboja cant be treated differently..
gaby: Abuja is a convergence point/melting pot of every Nigerian and can be described as a "mini-Nigeria".
Me thinks, for anyone to be seen as a valid president he truly needs to be accepted by at least 25% of the residents of this mini-Nigeria who cut across every tribe, creed, and whatever.
If this was the intent of that particular clause in the Constitution or electoral act, it is safe to say that whoever thought that piece out is a genius.
You can say that hat of Lagos, kano, kaduna too.. why is there no must to score 25%...
telleyway: I think the most foolish person here is you who's just blind by party affiliation when your future is been rubbed in the mud. (1) how do you say you are helping people by putting a heavy debt on their shoulders? Tell that to American who have hight debts who u want to run to their country (2) how do they come about the statistics of the poor people they are referring to? Which database have their records? Nigeria that don't even know her population. They are government, you who has no right or capabilities to determine is question government agencies tasked with such and have conducted their findings.. Why did u not ask pezer obi how he got the statistics of his human capital development he talks about? (3) those in government will write arbitrary names of their families and crannies and called them poor people and you are here blabbing all because of party.
Same way obi did it anambra now isn't it? dont ask me for proof cos u have none..
You are a non entity and a foolish obidient.. Srnse is very far from you..
When you steal that which you have borrowed, leaving your predecessors to pay, it’s either called, ALOOTER CONTINUA or UNDOCUMENTED SEVERANCE.
Minister of Finance said FG just received $800 million from the World Bank to share to 50m Nigerians as palliative before petrol subsidies are removed in June.
Yet in 2014 Buhari said “petroleum subsidy in Nigeria is a fraud. Nigeria is making me cry After watching this video Chaiii how did we get here?
The way obidients make foolish statement and logic eeeh you begin to wonder if the foolishness is factory fitted.. Please who is better Yakubu who conducted 2 elections with money goven to him through the constitution and Peter obi who constitution gave money to conduct LG elections in 8 years and he failed to deliver. If there is anyone who will criticize inec for election. It should not be peter obi. A man who could not conduct ordinary LG elections with all the money received in 8years is saying the one someone conducted is not good.. Peter Obi is failure personified.. Obi cannot do any better.. Make una understand that 1 first and stop making it look like he is a messiah. Obiano saved anambra if not.. Anambra will be like kogi today.. Facts his mous are still bearing fruits even after office..
Brendaniel: The worst governor of Abia state is still better than Uzondinma...
Hope is better than sam daddy.. Instead of sam daddy make jooe do him another 4 years comot quick than for 9years of sam daddy.. Ukochukwu na the same people
Lexusgs430: Under certain conditions, a plea bargain may help an individual avoid or reduce a sentence of jail time......
Are you saying the contents of those court papers, are pigments of our imaginations .........
Reduce a sentence, not in a criminal case avoid sentence never.. Let me tell you. If a drug case money can be forfeited.. Go and watch narcotics Escobar had so much he had to bury money.. If forfeiture is in Drug case escobar would have forfeited millions of dollars for his freedom.. In drug cases you must go to prison.. Just like hushpuppi forfeited but he was convicted.. They case against tinubu was not established beyond reasonable doubt that is why there was not conviction... In Amerika he is not an ex convict.. That is the point
Lexusgs430: Maybe Tinubu's plea bargain, was only forfeiture and check out ........😂
Does it make sense to you that a drug case 460k will be seized and 1 million returned to the druglord and still the drug lord didnt go to prison? .. In a whole usa eeh.. and the us ambassadors still visits and relates with the drug lord till date.. Hmmm escobar would have forfeited 1 million for his freedom he had more than enough
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