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Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:56pm On Jul 13, 2018
Saipro:
The one I tested has the following zero load consumption values:

Full power on: 33 - 40W
AES mode: 29 - 37W
Search mode: 15 - 17W

It's an earlier unit though (firmware xxxx1xx)
I switched off just now the input-output solar reported 27 Watt including venus, Em 3 phase energy meter and a network switch ( 5 V , 1 Amp) attached to the same battery. NO AES firmware is 2657424

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:16pm On Jul 12, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
Not this matter again o biko! grin

So the only new conclusion I can reach is that we either got lemons due to poor quality control or other factors were at play or all the positive testimonials got a different generation/different production batch and better quality inverters than we did although all still within thesame Axpert family.
I fully agree too . see the attached loads ( upto 4.3 KW) on my ipower at office( teh motherboard was replced in 2017 after failuer) . Although I admit that it is running in an AirConditioned office with AC keeping it at 23 DEG .But is is connected to 1.5 HP Daikin inverter AC , A Ricoh photocopier , 1 HP laser printer , around 20 LED Lights ( square 12 watt type) , 6No. 22 inch HP screen plus 7no. 13 inch laptops , NAS server, security cameras etc. .

Never misses a beat. occasionally beeps overload when somebody tries to print and copy at the same time but gracefully changes to GRID mode on overload

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:04pm On Jul 12, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
Oga Pranil,

Please do you have a link/source for this MPPSolar 5kW 61v Inverter?

I am hoping also that they have an inverter only version with no charge controller built in - this should bring down the price point significantly.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/MPPT-Solar-inverter-5000w-48v-mppt-solar-charger-80A-60A-battery-charger-parallel-able/629424_32804613735.html

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 9:52pm On Jul 11, 2018
Barezzi:
I use mine with a 2kw hotplate and 2kw electric kettle simultaneously every morning 5 days a week for almost a year now.
This is with other loads of fridge, booster pump and other base loads.

I use a 10kva Gennex Inverter (Axpert clone).
[s]I think it is a completely different inverter ( 10 KVA 3 phase right) it is much different design ( can work on grid also and certified in Germany.UK South africa etc )It can handle 11.2 KW peak ( mainly as DC bus is 480 V) as compared to 380 V of axpert [/s][s][/s]

Stacking them together basically increases the peak handling to 20 KVA allowing much higher margin .

For those considering axpert clones I would suggest to import the MPPSOlar 5KW 61 V model or get the South africa version) they are built to a diffrent standarad the standard model PIP 4048MS ( Ipower gennex) are essentially 4 KW 48 V ( peak 58 V)while the new are 5048 ( 5 KW 48 V peak 64 V)
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 1:08am On Jul 11, 2018
makawhy201:
checkout the link below.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32863099171.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.518.61a43c0063gJhA
Nice find. Tomzon is more reliable than the brand I suggested
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 11:04pm On Jul 10, 2018
NairaBaba:
Oga Pranil,

Please help post the name or link to the current limiting device. Thanks
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-quality-current-limiter-lirait-appliances-0-5A-32A-tutamen-control-switch-demand-limiter-free-shipping/32417613258.html
My experience was not so great 2 failed out of 3 in 6 months )

I might have one lying around somewhere rated 10 amp ( 2.5 KW)

( probably because I was experimenting to reduce current on the generator drawn by a heavy duty charger )
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 10:59pm On Jul 10, 2018
mrmachine:
We can't really call them 5kva then
It is really 5KVA 4 KW at 25 DEG C you have to derate it on heavy load ( as the ambient may not be ideal ) so safe bet will be 3 KW at 40 DEG which means on heavy loads it will suffer - I normally run my 10 KVA inverter regularly at 7 KW ( inverter AC load so nearly unity PF)
But I have an exhaust fan which kicks in at 31 DEG ambient to keep things cool

Even strong inverter like Victron is only 3.7 KW at 40 DEG ambient ( mind you it is actually 4 KW at 25 DEG C) while ipower is 4KW.

The newer models I posted a while back are designed now for 5 KW at 25 DEG C

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 9:25am On Jul 10, 2018
mrmachine:
Thanks Mr Niyi. The issue is that I don't have control over what they would plug o. I would love the one that has no restriction but still appreciable no load consumption. Thanks sir
if you have budget you can get victron Multi ( 5 KW )900K NGN ( 10 KW peak ) they have multistage protections and handel overload extremely well and gracefully

Zero Load is between 15 W to 30 watt for 5 KW


https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-MultiPlus-inverter-charger--800VA-5kVA-EN.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SXtGIx0x5w
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 1:24am On Jul 10, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
On my 12v 600w immersion heater, the positive and negative terminals are very close together - less than an half inch clearance - also very small such that it is hard to fit a reasonable gauge cable and terminal lug on them.

At bolded, never underestimate human ingenuity/stupidity - I once bent a clothes hanger wire and used it to short a 12v battery - turns out they make very good heating elements - another ocassion, I retrofitted a battery load tester - took out the metallic element, attached 35mm cables and shorted it to a battery with the metal element immersed in a bucket of water - dumped the entire battery into the water within an hour - water was boiling feverishly and the 35mm cable burned my hands when I touched the exposed copper - I soon realised this piece of metal would even take 24v or 48v - only difference was in the quantity of heat generated - imagine 100amps at 24v - I soon abandoned this folly and went on to more productive things.

But my question remains - in the below image, how to safely crimp on DC cables to such flimsy connections - I ruled out solder for many reasons
easiest will be to attach a T shape Busbar ( piece of Cu flat) The top ( Horizontal part will be connected to two bolts and the Vertical to cable) - can be easily made from earthing flat used in lightning protection . for piece of mind you can even sleeve the whole things leaving enough space for Flat washers to make contact

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 4:19pm On Jul 09, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
My Oga Pranil,

These are the very same immersion heaters I use for battery capacity testing and also for panel and CC benchmark tests.

Boiling water is always a good way to use up excess energy.

For this solar water heating scenario, what will be the working principle to keep the hot water tank topped off with fresh water as the hot water boils away or better yet how does one incorporate a DC thermostat capable of breaking large currents?

When I first thought along these lines, I thought it best to undersize the panels relative to the water heater so the water doesnt really boil off/get to boiling point on an average solar day.

Another struggle I face is connecting securely to the heater terminals - they are so small and tightly clustered one is always afraid of a shortcircuit and no sooner does one finally get positive and negative terminals connected, the battle against corrosion due to exposure to moisture starts.
for topping up you can use a normal float smiley if the tank is big or the smaller versionfor50,100 ltr tanks

for temp control, the simplest is to add some additional load in series or parallel which will reduce the heating using PTC elements ( teh resistance changes in response to temp)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LJXH-PTC-Thermostat-Aluminum-Heating-Element-Heater-Plate-60-120-200-Degrees-AC-DC-24-48/32855627244.html

Alternatively use a digital sensor with contactor/SCR ( expensive and prone to failure especially outdoor)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-12V-Digital-LCD-Temperature-Controller-Heating-Cooling-Thermostat-with-Probe-for-Warehouse-Water-Heaters-Micro/32859805084.html

But it will be difficult to boil say 100 LTr using 200 /300 watt element alone



for the corrosion it is very easy in fact you should be doing it for every exposed terminal - especially batteries - apply petroleum jelly

or you can get one of that Nano coating spray sold by car dealers

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 8:16pm On Jul 08, 2018
kiekie1:
Hello Mr George, contact me privately if you need any service parts for your solar water heater ranging from vaccum tubes, float tank,optional AC element etc .. Cheer's
For those willing to venture out on their own I have DC ( 12 V 300 Watt) heating element I can give away I imported it in case my solar heating experience failed.

To use it simply connect 12 V one or two panels ( or 24 V 350 Watt with elements in series) and the heater will go to work during sunny days

will require an old boiler to repurpose to store the hot water

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 8:05pm On Jul 08, 2018
DUNKA:
Your system is a whole water works on its own grin and it is ground mounted.

If as I intend to mount on a stand not sure if the same problem George1 encountered may be an issue.

Any feedback for Simba on a roofmounted installation?
The ground-mounted basic system is same unless you get a pressurized system which I am less inclined to purchase as a 500 K unit will probably take 20 years to pay back with Disco charging 22 NGN/unit . it is much cheaper to just by ground mounted large boiler and use solar PV
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:20pm On Jul 07, 2018
DUNKA:
Quite unfortunate and your review had put a real dampner on setting up a solar water heater as I had looked at Protek and other brands such as Simba,NaturePal etc but that all seem to be of similar quality and reputation and I cannot shout grin

Well the waiting game still continues until a qualitative and affordable solar water heater comes into the market while I will for now increase my solar panels for use of an electric heater.
I am perfectly happy with my Simba solar heater . Although the whole setup is heavily customized on input-output side I don't see why it would no work as a normal install without any issues
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 1:26pm On Jul 06, 2018
richmon74:
Hi Engr.

I was referring to Morningstar Inverter/Charger not Charge controller as in your case.
The Victron Smartsolar you are talking about is a charge controller not inverter.
Ooops . My sincere apologies. With all the heated discussions on various charge controllers, I missed the inverter part . grin

Is it an offgrid or bidirectional inverter( grid interactive) . The inveter market is moving very fast in the mid ranage.

Just while back I posted about Batteryless hybrid inverter

They are launching the first zero transfer time off grid inverter ( basically a giant UPS)



at a quick glance at the user guide, 5kVA version adds the following to a widely sold PIP-MS4048 ( in Nigeria Ipower/gennex easun and many others which are a copy of the original)

5000VA / 5000W inverter
4000W 500V MPPT
BMS comms for LiFe04
61V max charge voltage for the Trojans !
battery EQ function
built in bluetooth with android app,
detachable LCD control for remote up to 20m
and for the battery-phobes.......
you can run grid/PV only with NO Batteries


the BMS part will not be ready till next year. and the initial release will be only with OEM orders ( where battery and inverter is sold as bundle)

But in General

PIS - 5048GK - (Voltonics Axpert VM III) 5KW/48VDC, 80A MPPT, max 500V PV open circuit with all the above features except BMS

PIP- 3048 MK - ( voltronics King) - Zero changeover time ( PV input 145 V - ONLY 3KW model ) others features same ( no BMS yet)



If I look at the graphic of the display I guess they are using their knowledge of online inverters and applying to the inverter to achieve zero transfer time - essentially using DC rectifier and then inverter as two-stage process. it is not the ongrid inverter ( maybe grid interactive is a better term ?)

Maybe that's why only 3KW model is available as they may not be able to handle the components and heat losses in the same chassis of 5KW

Should be available by mid August on Aliexpress on their official store - https://www.aliexpress.com/store/629424

https://www.mppsolar.com/v3/pip-gk-series/

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:39am On Jul 06, 2018
godspeed:
Thanks pranil

Was planning to go for epsolar before I stumbled upon this.

In ur professional opinion, which will you advise I go for?
EPSolar as it is easy to find accessories such as WIFi box /Bluetooth and more user knowledge support in Nigeria in case things don't work out

When and if MTN or GLO starts NB-IoT services it will be advantages to have this one as it can directly connect to Low power GSM network to broadcast signals
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:41pm On Jul 05, 2018
godspeed:
Ur tots on this charger house.

Found it on jumia
It's a Chinese company with relatively good quality ( in EPSOLAR category) mainly focusing on offgrid /rural projects

The controller looks fairly advanced with it's Modbus support and external voltage sensing
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:23pm On Jul 05, 2018
richmon74:
Few of the features that I remember that makes the Morningstar 4kW Inverter great are;

- It comes with known morningstar quality/effeciency
- It is transformerless and as such light weight
- It has inbuilt Display
- It has inbuilt AGS
- It has current Shunt mounted inside with busbars for battery and cc connections.
- Internal DIN rail for breakers
- Inbuilt Network card for stacking and for hooking up Charge controllers
- It has already installed hardware for Lithium Ion battery. Though they are still working on the software as at today.
- It's coming with great price as well

that's all I can remember for now
Victron is already in Market with 5.7KW with fanless design and 99% efficiency and Bluetooth and compatible to lithium batteries

https://www.victronenergy.com/solar-charge-controllers/smartsolar-250-85-250-100

https://www.victronenergy.com/blog/2018/06/07/video-introduction-to-the-smartsolar-mppt-250-100/

https://www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:start
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 7:03pm On Jul 05, 2018
richmon74:
Goodnews No. 2

We will be bringing in Trojan Lithium Ion battery for your peace with battery.

The good news with this is the fact that you wouldn't need to change your inverters and CCs as the Trojan Lithium will come with internal BMS (which victron lacks) which will be good enough for DIY guys as you wouldn't need to crack your head on rigorous configurations.

So guys, the renewable energy have come to stay and the technological advancement is coming closer to you.

I just hope most of us will get an opportunity to experience the efficiency of Lithium Ion batteries before the Graphene battery wipes it out.
I can't wait smiley
slowly the Nigerian market is waking up to Lithium first it was Simpliphi by solardepot then SOlarprada by PSC .
Anybnody bringing BYD?

Trojan is still pushing LEAD acid for Africa though smiley

https://www.energy-storage.news/blogs/trojan-battery-in-praise-of-lead-acid-for-solar-plus-storage
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 4:07pm On Jul 03, 2018
dgr8truth:
The battery cabinet for my DIY powerwall is now completed and in full use.

The next project is building the remaining 43000 kilowatts hours pack. It will be a real challenging project.
A Very nice build. Please put some fans to circulate air . Temp is the enemy here



Personally, I love the ones from ACinfinity . ( you can get even a temp controller to avoid running them full time)
https://www.acinfinity.com/quiet-cabinet-fans/


https://www.acinfinity.com/quiet-cabinet-fans/
Just look for cabinet fan on your fav website .

e.g. https://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/cabinet-fan


Also note that the cycle life is 300-600 cycles only ( 1 to 3 years) so if teh cell were used cells then expect to rplace some cells earlier than 2 years



http://dalincom.ru/datasheet/SAMSUNG%20INR18650-25R.pdf
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 8:11pm On Jul 02, 2018
Anybody having experience with PSC Solar Lithium batteries

for claimed 10,000 cycles the price of less than 350 USD per kWh is not bad.

https://www.pscsolaruk.com/best-inverter-deep-cycle-batteries-in-nigeria/4.5KW-51V-90Ah-Indoor-Stackable


seems to be a Chinese brand also sold in Australia

http://www.soltaro.cn/product/index.html
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:46pm On Jul 02, 2018
The voltronics have done it again. A batteryless Hybrid inverter with the option of using battery

When we thought all innovation was finished after launching their hybrid inverter revolutioninzing the market
( there are now countless copies flooding the market !)


The new 5048MG is a variation model from the 5048MS, with the special added features of batteryless operation and high PV input voltage (450V), thereby allowing users more flexibility in the wider range of application.

https://www.mppsolar.com/v3/pip-hsms-pf1-series/

Not only operation is possible without battery but you can combine 8-to 12 panels in series reducing the costs significantly in cabling ( perfect for that upgrade from ipower/gennex)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9KCl8SAh5Y


power factor is now 1 ( 5KVA models now supports 5 KWE not 4 KW) and equalization programmable with battery voltages as high as 62 V possible

These inverters are now turning into corollas. - You have to spend time carefully selecting the correct features to match your use case
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:33pm On Jul 02, 2018
Dam5reey:
Not sure parallel connection really have issues with balancing, cos I can't find Battery balancer for Batteries connected in parallel..

Any other suggestion/opinion is welcome..
Please don't mix the Battery AH the 200 AH will be undercharged (* if charger cuts of based on terminal voltage) or the 100 AH will be overcharged or dry out if the charger cuts off based on tail current ( absorb stage of 3 stage charger )

if you want to mix two different type of batteries you need to[b] use battery combiner not balancer [/b]- there are many out there

http://www.magnum-dimensions.com/smart-battery-combiner

https://www.victronenergy.com/battery-isolators-and-combiners/cyrix-battery-combiners


https://www.westmarine.com/buy/blue-sea-systems--mini-add-a-battery-system--14152565?recordNum=1
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 12:26pm On Jul 02, 2018
dgr8truth:
My initial review of the easun 3kva inverter.

So yesterday night BEDC decided to be stingy with the 4/6 megawatts electricity that we managed to generate as a country, so unlike before I decide to be my own BEDC, and having initially this week tasted of the forbidden fruit and experience the consequences, I decided to go again this time to the same forbidden tree a have a filled day and I was not disappointed. It's sin I'm willing to commit again and again, a sin some nairalanders are committing daily. Me I nor go talk go dey see us for this jungle.

The easun inverter I can't say if it's good or bad since it's just about 13hrs in test operation but thus far it is proving to be a good buy. The self consumption is very negligible about 1.88w. Reading from the DC input is 52.04 why reading from the ac side of the inverter is 50.16. The total watts being drawn as at this reading is about 50.16w, I believe that is why the self consumption is very negligible.

One of the convincing options why I decided to buy the inverter over the Indian brands is its selectable dc cutoff voltage for battery.
For now my disappointed with the inver is that it can't keep log, it would have helped me alot.

More reviews of the inverter, and the DIY powerwall will follow.
It is not possible that inverter has 2-watt consumption that will make it almost 96-97 % efficient ( the manufacturer claims 90% ~ 93% on full load) which is inlne with almost all similar rebranded/copied Axperts

Can you check no load consumption ( nothing connected to output?) and for loads above 50 % ?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 9:58pm On Jun 30, 2018
Dam5reey:
Shipping is 153$ shocked
Ipower 3 KVA which is exactly same specs is 127 K but with service and parts availabvle in Nigeria

Gennex is only 48| V unfortunately what I could see

https:///ipowerplus-ipowerplus-3kva-24v-inverter-2401648
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 11:31am On Jun 27, 2018
JUO:
Power your fridge, freezer, AC with solar during the day and public power at night when available. Don't kill your batteries with huge load. Price is 16k for 63a
I need a 100/125 amp 3 phase ( TPN) mounted in the outdoor box if available for my office - pls. email me quote anil_ghatikar (at)yahoo.com
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 6:51pm On Jun 26, 2018
Saipro:
Oga Pranil ... making sense since 1914
smiley Thanks

This video is very interesting where the guy clearly explains why wind turbines don't work for home use ( or rather they work but not cost effective)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3buUnynN5M?t=5m47s
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 2:17pm On Jun 25, 2018
earthrealm:
I GUESS COST is part of the problem, and low wind speed in most parts of southern nigeria..save for victoria island axis. TAKE THE 600W HORIZONTAL BLADE WINDTURBINE, IT PRODUCES ITS MAX POWER AT 34mph windspeed, and 150w at 20mph wind speed. the avg wind speed in southern nigeria is btw 6 to 12mph, so imagine installing that unit, you wud be getting about 60 to 100w harvest from it, wch considering the cost is a massive waste of funds.




in my search came across the verical blade type, which hopes to replaces to the horizontal blade type../ the vertical blades are more compact than the hopritonal types, and could be comboéd with solar panels...wouldnt mind getting a 600w vertical blade type to support my panels if the price is right.

[url]https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CE-Approved-600w-wind-turbine-12v-24v-build-in-charge-controller-3-years-warranty/380416524.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.96.6680619eFLYcOK&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_5722815_10342_10343_10340_5722915_10341_5722615_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_5722715_10059_306_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620-10152,searchweb201603_2,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=a8719cb2-5b88-4ca3-bf32-b9c0e0e2d09b-14&algo_pvid=a8719cb2-5b88-4ca3-bf32-b9c0e0e2d09b&priceBeautifyAB=0[/url]
Does not work in Nigeria most of the places. Note the wind speeds in the turbine page at average 4 m/s the monthly production is 15 KWH which is less than 0.5 units per day. ( if you are lucky) the same 500 USD ( plus pole foundation etc) will fetch you 1 to 1.5 KW P of solar which will produce on avarage 4 to 6 units per day


for more details search the thread with my signature where I have posted about vertical and horizontal wind turbines installed in my house



Also, see the weather report ( live from house mounted weather station) the peak Wind speed was 12 KM/H which is approx 4m/s ( 1 K.H = 3.6 m/s)- Compared to wind the solar hit peak values of 700 watt/m which is approximately 70 % of panel peak output at STC

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IABUJA3


I would suggest to invest in weather station or wind speed meter and observe wind speeds before seriously investing in wind turbines
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 3:15pm On Jun 22, 2018
mcTrinity:
have one I'm still wiring... see pics. Is yours different?
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GUYS Are you sure you did not get the US model ( there is L1 and L2 with N) only in US models L1, L2 E and N

for UK/EU 230 V 50 HZ models there is L, N and E for both input output

or is it SW+ with separate generator input

see the snapshot from manual and download link - https://41j5tc3akbrn3uezx5av0jj1bgm-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ML20180101_Conext-SW-230V-Installation-Guide-975-0637-01-01_Rev-F_ENG.pdf



even Schinder is looping the neutrals on a neutral busbar for both input and output so I would say you can safely loop them with same size conductor as L input

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 4:20pm On Jun 12, 2018
godspeed:
Hello house

So much confusion everywhere ooo!

So I got a professional installer to take a look at my set up and confirm why the battery is not charging.

First thing he said is that instead of using 2 250watts panels, I should have gone for 4 150 watts panels, because this according to him, gives me more amperage - 8 amps each translating to 32 amps. He said the battery (220 ah) requires 22 amps to charge while I can use the excess amps to power my appliances.

He claims the 2 panels I have presently generates max of 12 amps which he claims can never charge the battery full.

He also tested the voltage coming thru the CC and got ~36 volts, this he said is too much for the CC as it's designed for 12-24 volts and claims the excess volts is not healthy for the CC and it's preventing it from working optimally.

I had him speak with my installer and he said why he used 250 watts is to get 24 volts which can be converted to more current to charge the battery.

Both of them just left me confused with their technical jargons but both agree I need to change the CC to MPPT.

When the professional guy says I need to add one more 250 watts panel to be able to get a full charge on the battery daily, my installer claims changing the CC to MPPT will fix the problem as it will convert excess volts to current which is sufficient to charge the battery full.

So house, I'm really so confused
smiley

Stop thinking of Wattage, voltages etc, PV panels are not generators. They are you diesel tanks Inverter is Generator while PV + Battery provides the energy to run the inverter ( Generator).

A good installer then should match the correct voltages, currents etc based on the products used.

Most important to think is Total energy required in the day


The minimum you should target is in KWH is atleast 50 % of Battery capacity ( 2.4 Kwh for you I guess ) + amount of energy used during the sunny period in the day



What you need a Quality MPPT CC preferably which can handle 100 V or Above input ( Voc) then you can connect panels in series That way you reduce the cabling loss and the CC will wake up earlier in the morning and go to sleep late maximizing the usage of the 500 watt

you should get typically 1.5 2 KWH on Average yield from 500 Watt panels with correct Cc and installation - The Yield ( energy is important ) not the wattages, If you are using inverter/battery in afternoon you will have to calculate how many units you typically use in afternoon and increase the panel size to address that. in your case you have the possibility of to 250 x 2 ( 2 in series) or 250 x 4( 2 series, 2 strings parallel) or 250 x 3 ( 3 in parallel or series depending on CC)
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by pranil(m): 3:56pm On Jun 12, 2018
ebocoms:
Ok thanks @pranil. Is it the -Ve from the inverter that would pass through the breaker or the the -Ve (jumper cable) that would pass through the breaker B?
If you send the visio native file to me I can redraw but basically - battery -ve from the battery to DC breaker and then toshunt battery side

same with +VE - from Battery +ve to breaker first and then to inverters, CC + VE ETC


Also note DC breakers can have polarity and the side marked with +Ve symbol should be on the battery side ( side with the highest voltage of power flow possible)

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