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[quote author=elmourtal post=30931803][/quote]You are the biggest liar on earth.am from adamawa state.. Adamawa state is a state one cannot authoritatively state the religion with the highest number of people. Coming from northern adamawa, we have: madagali, michika, maiha, and mubi... First three are christian dominated while mubi is mixed. Central adamawa: hong, gombi and song are christian dominated while girei, yola north, yola south and fufore are muslims dominated. Southern adamawa: demsa, lamorde, numan, ganye, jada and toungo and christian dominated while mayo belwa is muslim dominated. Do the mathematics yourself

Nobody wants to be broke. Most atimes, d are due to factors beyound ones control than just pure laziness. More to that, eating from the mothers pot is not as bad as you out it to be. U`v got to look at the bigger picture. What if the guy is the only child? What if the mom begged him to stay with her? What if his parents are critically ill that the dezav constant attention? Its sonot nice to just tag everyone in a negative way, u should understand ones situation before....... Oya,over to quoters

The moment she heard Buratai is coming by

ojimbo:
Don't forget that Jesus said to one of the arm robbers that was persecuted along with him "tonight! you will be with me in my paladice" which tonight again jesus metioned since he was going to hades just to spend three days. and more over did he even later traveld along with the arm robber to the heaven because the bible recorded thay no one has ever been to heaven apart from the only son

If the arm robber made it to heaven, then i will say he was with the jesus, the father. Technically, this is where the trinity comes in. He could be in different places at the same time! Dont frgt, jesus also posited that if u have seen me, u`v seen the father. The robber ws with the father in heaven, which means the presence of jesus with there

Did jesus went to hell between his dead and resurrection?
There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. The concept that Jesus went to hell after His death on the cross comes primarily from the Apostles’ Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11–15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place. Many people refer to both hades and the lake of fire as “hell,” and this causes confusion. Jesus did not go to a place of torment after His death, but He did go to hades.

Sheol/hades was a realm with two divisions—a place of blessing and a place of judgment (Matthew 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23; Acts 2:27–31). The abodes of the saved and the lost are both generally called “hades” in the Bible. The abode of the saved is also called “Abraham’s bosom” (KJV) or “Abraham’s side” (NIV) in Luke 16:22 and “paradise” in Luke 23:43. The abode of the unsaved is called “hell” (KJV) or “Hades” (NIV) in Luke 16:23. The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus died, He went to the blessed side of sheol and, from there, took the believers with Him to heaven (Ephesians 4:8–10). The judgment side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8–10 and 1 Peter 3:18–20.

Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10–11 as translated in the King James Version: “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. . . . Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation in this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43); He did not say, “I will see you in hell.” Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to be with the blessed in sheol/hades. Unfortunately, in many versions of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”

Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7–9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.

As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
What do you think?

Link to the book of enoch pdf has been shared here, dos interested should access it or better still, google `download book of enoch pdf`.
More to that, the thread has bin interesting, educative and eye opening, thanx to every one for the contribution. I never imagined it could generate comments and debate as much as dis. Personally, i have learnt so many tins i never knew about from the thread, and i hope and pray that God, the giver of knowledge will expand our understanding.God bless ur friends, and hit like if u benefited from the thread

Orofo1:
Hello! Sorry for coming here to request for this. I saw the post u made about the book of enouch, and i'm intrested in owing a copy. Could you please help foward it to this email too :- babyarbs4u@yahoo.com !thanks

Sorry couldnt respond to u there! Lots of pple asking for it, sent to dos i can.....u can check ur mail

lestat:
Sharrap there! F00l!! The author lived before the time of Lord Jesus, and this work has been dated to that era. Bloody semi illiterate!

If u don't agree with what he states simply say so and don't call it a fraud. Stup1d dunce who doesn't take time to study.

Big bro, we dont need to insult each other. We can correct with respect. Thanks man

lequatee:
I think I spot someone reasoning too. what grounds did the " compiling fathers " have to add or remove those books . beats me.
something that should be a guide and universal truth should not have " deceit and secrecy " at the foundation.
I believe the bible but the numerous standards, addition and subtraction says a lot.

Hey friend. I think we need to watch our uttarances.. I believe me and you dont know the reason behind the addition and subtractionof the books. It could be just like u said, for deceit but it could also be a direction from God. Its better if we dont conclude. Thanx for contributing, one love man

joseph1832:
Praxs, I guess its the same reason why the gospel according to Mary Magdalene was remove, the gospel according to phillip was removed, the book Tobias was removed and a whole lot of other books.

I'll always say this that the reason why I feel these books were removed is just to sell religion to us and make it seem fallible for the gullible minds to accept its doctored dogmatism.

Thanxfor the contribution. Different conspiracy theories exist regarding all dis

Okies27:
. You said you made a little research and thought you would shown us a little part of it from your so-called research. Hope this isn't a propaganda of the order of apcenomic?

Bro okies, its not a propaganda. God knows my intentions even if u doubt! I only want us to share knowledge, its not for the wrong reason

SirJeffry:
Governor Ambode should be notified about this huge number of nairalanders requesting for this book oo.

I'm talking about expanding YABA LEFT facility to accommodate them 'cos mad men go soon increase for we society. I don already count over 100 hundred potential mad fellas

But on a serious note, Christianity has a lot of secrets but e no go stop me from going to church though.

My man sir jeffry, u forgot to include urself so it should be 101 madfellas

myproperty:
I am not entering into a debate with you. I am only trying to clarify the impression of your chosen topic. The book of Enoch was never part of the bible hence it was not removed. Rather an interest group wanted it to become part of the Bible and it was rejected.

Bro, by asking u to suggest or creating the thread as a whole wasnt for the wrung reasons. If anytin, its for pple like you who have knowledge to share with us. With all due respect, i wasnt dragging u into any debate with me

leofab:
THis book was writing before the advent of Jesus Christ; are you too dumb to know this.. Paul is a liar quote me anywhere.....

How can u even itter such? Just like u pointed earlier, we are just human being with limited knowledge of the past but u even have the full knowledge to conclude paul was a liar. Fear God

myproperty:
Where they actually removed? No, they were not removed, rather they were not accepted as being(canonical) part of the Bible, when some interest wanted it to be made part of the Bible. When you say it was removed that means it was already part of the Bible, but it was not
Op the topic is miss-leading, change the topic.

Suggest topic sir

Horlawale1:
All these book of Enoch u are sharing #DiarisGodoooo#

Hahahahha... Unserios person

phreakabit:
Because you are mentally demented and a tad too slow to spot a conspiracy even if it smacks you in the face. . .
There never was a book of Enoch in the first place .
I guess this is your first time hearing about this silly stuff from a dumb pro-black supremacists?
Blacks need to understand that being rebellious doesn't necessarily equate being intelligent.

How sure are you? Were u in the earliar years? The thred is just about sharing what u know abt it. If there is any demented person it should be u becoz of how ur reason and understand things

iPopAlomo:
Who do you think...?! Christians did...

I know what you meant! But know that we only read books and were told stories about the earliar years. No one is certain abt what happen, so u dont have to start reasoning with ur buttt

GodMode:
Before colonial masters conquered Africa..

Africa used to known as Ethiopia.. When the bible talks about Ethiopia.. It is referring to Africa.

Wow.. This is getting more interesting, never knew about that

Check this piece

malvisguy212:
you did not read, if you did you cannot be deceive so easily like this, the book of enoch is satanic and cannot be trusted, enoch died long time ago, someone came with lies to deceive people like you.

Here's chapter 48:1-3 of the book of enoch ...
1 And in that place I saw the
fountain of righteousness Which
was inexhaustible: And around it
were many fountains of wisdom:
And all the thirsty drank of them,
And were filled with wisdom, And
their dwellings were with the
righteous and holy and elect. 2
And at that hour that Son of Man
was named In the presence of
the Lord of Spirits, And his name
before the Head of Days. 3 Yea,
before the sun and the signs
were created, Before the stars of
the heaven were made, HIS NAME
WAS NAMED before the
Lord of Spirits.


Was the Son of Man named? When was Jesus named in Heaven? This is an attack on the deity of Jesus. Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, " I
am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. " Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end. Head of Days? Lord of Spirits? These terms are NOT found in the Bible. IF the Book of Enoch were
valid, composing well over 100 chapters, there should be numerous New Testament references to it; but there aren't. Although some people claim that the Bible quotes the Book of Enoch over 100 times, this is simply not true. Just as the Qur'an, the Book of Enoch borrows from the Word of God. In sharp contrast to the Book of Enoch, the New Testament often quotes the Book of Genesis.

Bro u are not getting the point. I opened the thread for pple to share what d knw. Like someone pointed out earliar, its not just the book that was removed, u can sharewith us why they were removed. No one is deceiving me, thanx for ur post anyway

buccunmie:
goin by yur post title, i suggest u see d type of bible dey use bfor asserting dat it was removed.

Certainly there must have been reasons as to why the books where removed. Some christians have dug deeper in searching those reasons, dis thread is 4 dos who have an insight as to why. U can tellus what u know abt it

coollabman:
wait first...

why are you afraid of reading it?

Lol! Did not say me afraid, i read just a part of it

coollabman:
pls send a copy to coollabman@gmail.com

Dont frgt to share with us after reading it.. Check ur mail

buccunmie:
do u av d Ethiopian bible?

I dont have the original bible bro, but have an article-like the explains the bible

Abigail09:
Sure.
have you read everything?

not even a chapter... But bin watching youtube vidz about it! The books seems to be #i just dont know

The first part of the Book of Enoch describes the fall of the Watchers, the angels who fathered the Nephilim. The remainder of the book describes Enoch's visits to heaven in the form of travels, visions and dreams, and his revelations.

The book consists of five quite distinct major sections (see each section for details):

The Book of the Watchers (1 Enoch 1–36)
The Book of Parables of Enoch (1 Enoch 37–71) (also called the Similitudes of Enoch)
The Astronomical Book (1 Enoch 72–82) (also called the Book of the Heavenly Luminaries or Book of Luminaries)
The Book of Dream Visions (1 Enoch 83–90) (also called the Book of Dreams)
The Epistle of Enoch (1 Enoch 91–108)
Most scholars believe that these five sections were originally independent works[6] (with different dates of composition), themselves a product of much editorial arrangement, and were only later redacted into what we now call 1 Enoch.

Abigail09:
thanks so much. I have seen it

Maybe u can tell us about the book after reading it

Abigail09:
ok. my email add - abydothes@yahoo.com
thanks.

Check ur mail, let me know when its delivered

Abigail09:
Can i get it from you? plss

Sure. But am not sure i can upload upto 9mb here

Abigail09:
whats d size of the book? mean d softcopy

9.95mb

Abigail09:
Interesting. Is it possible to get a copy of this book? love to know what its about

i have the softcopy, too bulky couldnt read it coz of time