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CultureRe: Osu(out Cast) And Real Born In Igbo Land Discrimination by preselect(m): 3:52am On Feb 10, 2009
KarmaMod:
Even retards know how to use the search option. Try it. Alainironu.
taaaa shinga gbafuo angry
foolish thing . . . .you made a statement and you cant present evidence. is that the way you showcase your infantile intelligence . . . . humpty dumpty.

abeg comot for here, i dont blame you , why do I even give attention to some fat dirty kid . . . .
akwuna anu mpam
next pls
CultureRe: Osu(out Cast) And Real Born In Igbo Land Discrimination by preselect(m): 11:25pm On Feb 09, 2009
karmamod can u post something sensible for once? show me who and who supported the osu idea on nairaland, let me face the person.

talking about a problem does not solve it (except in the minds of delusional talkatives. .)

there have been more threads for this osu thing in nairaland than for any other topic. who proposes a perfect plan? who?
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 10:48pm On Feb 09, 2009
tayo

honestly, i had no intention to insult you. but if i did, i not only apologise, i also accept fully your assumed(rightly or wrongly) revenge in the use of the words ignorant in describing me. i am a gentle man and i dont trade insults. . . at least most of the time.

seriously, since the non-partisan CBO has become jesus christ and tayo has become a solid economist, pres-elect has chosen to be a historian. did FDR allow the market to control itself? who is glorifying foolishness here? and what in your definition, in this issue is foolishness. that which u call foolishness is sound to someone else and vice versa. but i take it u were reacting to a percieved insult from darfur. no stress.


the simple thing about market is that a textile company has money, it invests and makes more textile. if the fashion company doesnt buy, the textile company doesnt sell, and the textile company doesnt make money. they lay off workers.

history
in the early 80s, shagari and some other african leaders introduced austerity. inhibiting the importantion of certain goods from europe. one of the worst ''victims'' of the measure was the industrial midlands and northwest england. factories laid off workers in liverpool and manchester. this is simple. keep the details for the experts. spending will help stimulate the economy and create jobs. the medical analogy is blood transfusion in an anemic patient.

anyway, what do i know, i'm just and ignorant promoter of foolishness in the presence of scientific tayo and christ-like non partisan CBO which uses objective washington times and sounds like holy republicans.

have a nice day tayo. and forgive my excesses
cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 9:45pm On Feb 09, 2009
dude sometimes it is better to keep mute and let people wonder if you are dumb than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

bush spent excess money on what? `a useless war. did he spend on the economy? haba.

fear mongering? does obama need to make a statement for people to see what is going on? are u sure you are in the US? tayo, just slightly less intelligence than that of a goat. a goat. ewu mee-ee-ee-ee, will be enough to understand what is happening.

if loss of 67,000 jobs in one day and 500,000 jobs in a month is not fearsome enough, you must be from another planet. grin

good bye, let me look for human beings to interact with
CultureRe: Osu(out Cast) And Real Born In Igbo Land Discrimination by preselect(m): 9:39pm On Feb 09, 2009
KarmaMod:
lmao denial isnt gonna change anything.
who is denying it? hope u can read?
CultureRe: Osu(out Cast) And Real Born In Igbo Land Discrimination by preselect(m): 9:39pm On Feb 09, 2009
Negro_Ntns:
Thanks for that link.

I sympathize but I am not apologetic for sounding tribal here, heck, the fact that, intra-Igbo, you will even discriminate along blood line gives me immunity to attack you without fear of any remorse. We are talking here about those who unjustly and ruthlessly condemned men and women of certain traits within their ethnic group and the children and fore children of those persons to treatments undignified and subhuman and forced it upon them as a birthright to remain in that state of mind and fate without hope of redemption but only in death. Speaking of death. . . do the osus have separate graveyards too or can they be buried anywhere regardless of status? There is a victim and there is a victimizer. Shame on those who had the power and the might to uplift their brothers and sisters but instead trodded upon their natural given rights to liberties and independent spirit.

I have heard of osu before but never paid it attention because I thought it was a cult in Igboland. Every tribe have their cults but I am very familiar with Yoruba and Hausa tribes and neither one of those have a discrimination based on birthrights where people are forbidden to interact or cross breed beyond status boundaries. I am shocked!

Now, so there has to be a far deeper problem, for every paragraph written there has to be much more that is left undisclosed. To think that in 2009 a freeborn Igbo carries a curse and risks ostracisation for marrying a osu then there is a spiritual dimension to that bloodline that makes it abominable to mix blood with them. What is it?

Far worse, why should a Yoruba person, man or woman, marry an Igbo if the risk exist that he/she is marrying a cursed bloodline? As I said in the opening, I am not apologetic for my tribal tone but I sympathize with the victims. This discussion need to go in depth. I sincerely feel very sad for those in here that may be osu bloodline and please do not identify who you are, don't do it, it might come back to haunt you amongst your own ethnic people. This is like a white American saying interracial marriage between whites and blacks are forbidden and its a code violation punishable by lifelong exile for offenders.
1. you dont have to apologise for sounding tribalistic. one cant apologise for what one is

2.nobody condemned anybody. and can u name the "undignified and subhuman" treatments metted to any of these people? you obviously ran here to make trouble when you could not tender any sound argument somewhere else.

3. the only discrimination against osu people as at 2009 is marriage (to the best of my knowledge) if you want to marry families will kick against marrying one of them. they are not being denied jobs, they are not asked to go to the back of the bus, they are not denied services . . . . as a matter of fact no one can identify them. it is not written in the face, or height or skin color. the only obstacle as of today is marriage. and marriage is a choice. if you bring somebody your family doesnt like, you can either damn your family or damn the wedding. it is your choice, there is not jail term for either decision.

4. there have been osu governors(names withheld) osu pastors, osu priests etc many of them are rich. many were educated earlier than non-osus. b/c when the white men came to the east, and wanted people to work with, most of the villages gave out the osus and the white men educated them, converted them into xtianity and got them exposed earlier than others . . . . today, over 200yrs later where is the inhuman treatment you talk about?

5. nevertheless, it is a negative stain on igbo culture. and no one is denying it. the generation that started it is long dead. my generation doesnt care much, after all we have slept with all sorts of girls in school and who knows who is osu? by culture, if u sleep with one it is an abomination. but c'mon that is dead today.

6. dont ask dont tell policy will eliminate it.

7. negro-ntns. . . . go get a job cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 9:23pm On Feb 09, 2009
@Tayo D

the same market that is announcing steady flow of job losses? those numbers you hear everytime are not ordinary numbers. they are human beings. they are families. hope u know that?

the same market G.W.Bush and cohorts excorted into this mess. the same markets where CEOs are running to get tax payers money. the same market that is failing

what kind of do-nothing approach can solve an emergency problem? or is it not an emergency problem to you. cant you see what is happening in the US? . . . and indeed in the world? take a look bro, like i said yesterday, you only need to be a little bit less intelligent than a goat to understand this urgency.

do nothing republicans . . . .anything against obama is good. if it was sooo good how come nobody is shouting it out loud except washington times? is it not the same press that shouted down those tax dodgers that wanted to lead? why cant someone shout this out too. may be tayo D and co can go to msnbc and ask joe scarborough (another confused republican ex-congressman who lost his seat) to announce it. or the good old fox noise

. . . . . abegi grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 8:23pm On Feb 09, 2009
@tayo D

. . and what did "non partisan CBO" propose?  the gallantly successful economic programmes of george bush which worked so marvellously for eight yrs that a recession was manufactured to control the success . . . .

and how come it was reported in the washington times? why washington times? ahaaaa, washington times is also a non-partisan outfit huh? . . .  grin

abeg change topic  . . . .
CultureRe: Osu(out Cast) And Real Born In Igbo Land Discrimination by preselect(m): 5:28am On Feb 09, 2009
how did biafra come into this thread?

osu is best not discussed. osu is a sad story, but the igbos did not keep written records, so everyone heard of it by oral education down the generations. hence no one is sure exactly what happened and how.
CultureRe: Re-branding Nigeria; A Call To Nigerians Home & Abroad by preselect(m): 5:16am On Feb 09, 2009
my friend if you have nothing good to do with your time go and sleep and post no more . . angry

there is only one way to improve a country's image . . . . .good governance.

when that is done, good citizenship will follow and every other thing will fall in place including international respect.
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 5:06am On Feb 09, 2009
Negro_Ntns:
grin I'm glad for your tutoring mister. Hmm. . .
No stress, it is free of charge for those who need it badly
CultureRe: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by preselect(m): 10:22pm On Feb 08, 2009
ify, abum the darfur i ma na mbu. abughi m presido. presido wu onye iberibe, muwa bu darfur. nothing mega.
CultureRe: A Little Piece Of Advice To My Yoruba Friends by preselect(m): 10:17pm On Feb 08, 2009
that is never going to stop anytime soon
CultureRe: Osu(out Cast) And Real Born In Igbo Land Discrimination by preselect(m): 9:37pm On Feb 08, 2009
the less we talk about this osu thing, the earlier it will go . . . .
CultureRe: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by preselect(m): 9:21pm On Feb 08, 2009
amaghi m oo, nke a ya na eze-umunwanyi na emezi exchange address . . . ebelebe igba
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 9:11pm On Feb 08, 2009
without trying to sound rude, i only need to be a little bit less intelligent than a goat to understand the urgency of the situation in america and to know that the republicans are ''complaining about the safety of tissue paper in a china-shop that is on fire''

all that talk about STD and condoms, and minor issues that amount to a few millions in a plan of almost a trillion dollars holding up a bill. . . .

some republican (negro-ntns's hero?) even said there was too much spending in the bill . . . . grin . . . abeg who sabi laugh? tell that dude that the stimulus is all about spending. consumerism runs the US economy. . . .that is the way to create jobs. . . . .
HealthRe: You Can Save Somebody By Readings this Information!!! by preselect(m): 7:56pm On Feb 07, 2009
i dont know why analgin is still in nigeria. this drug has been banned for ages in the WHO nations, why it still exists in nigeria is unbelievable
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 7:48pm On Feb 07, 2009
lol . . . . grin . . . old john . . . . grin

i'm just on my knees praying and fasting for those republicans to nominate sarah pallin in 20I2 elections grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Puts Me To Shame. by preselect(m): 7:46pm On Feb 07, 2009
religion stopped nigeria/africa from advancing? . . . . i don die grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 7:43pm On Feb 07, 2009
these guys take pride in ignorance grin grin

even republican governors support this bill, republican mayors support the bill but those ones in congress, for some inexplicable reasons . . . just wont agree . . perhaps obama may do well by going to rush lumbaugh to ask him to command his pupets to act with wisdom.

they want a bill reminiscent of bush. . . . bush whom they were afraid to mention during the elections. . .
Foreign AffairsRe: Fluffy "stimulus" Projects - Outrageous! by preselect(m): 7:24pm On Feb 07, 2009
Negro_Ntns:
That was only informational for people that might want to know. I do not have a proposal against what they have included in the spending bill and I think the vision and the ideal is commendable, but the methodology and the plan of execution is shallow and the absense of a well thought out implementation plan will end up becoming the nemesis of the whole rescue.

I am a proponent of using practical hands-on approach with steady footing to treat mundane problems. There is too much fluff and no one can give you a end to end walkthrough of the plan as it is now.
here they go again. proponents of confusion. rejected by americans on nov 4th, they cant let go . . . . .

what exaclty do u mean by "practical hands-on approach with steady footing to treat mundane problems"? i.e apart from confusion which u have effectively represented in nairaland for the past 5 or more months
CultureRe: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by preselect(m): 3:20pm On Feb 03, 2009
ify,

okwamu bu darfur, bkionu chetakwanu m ooo,
ndi nwe m leeee, darfur n'ekele oooooooooooooooo
Foreign AffairsRe: RNC Elect First African American Chairman by preselect(m): 3:08pm On Feb 03, 2009
@tayo,

still talking about hypocrisy, i noticed how the evangelicals stood behind the religious party candidate . . his holiness, rev john McCain. a man who after going through hell, went on to divorce his wife who stood by him then. he left her and went on to marry an heiress, her holiness cindy mccain. who inherited a lot of her wealth from her holy father who produces holy beer. the evangelicals trusted these holy people to lead america morally.

but the immoral party, . . . well . . . .that guy goes to church which has mainly black peole . . .not so holy . . . .(old john hardly goes to church o, but he is holy by decree. the guy from the immoral party has one wife and has no history of infidelity or neglect of his wife/children. . . . . but somehow old john is the christain. yeah, so says his holiness the evagelical wing of the holy eccllesiastical republican party of god

let's not talk of hypocrisy again tayo. angry
Foreign AffairsRe: RNC Elect First African American Chairman by preselect(m): 11:29pm On Feb 02, 2009
@pres-elect,
I know what I stand for and I am too sure that the Dems do not stand for it. They are the largest bunch of hypocrites ever assembled together in my opinion.
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u are entitled to ur political opinion but if u want to know what hypocrisy is, take a look atthe GOP, the party of religious people where a congressman was found in an airport bathroom having sex with a fellow man. a party where a president lied to the world and pushed a war where multitudes have died. a godly party with a god fearing president who grated kark rove immunity that he cant even come to answer the call of elected judicial comittee. religious party where palin et al told all those political lies against obama (as hillary did) anyway, we can leave that in the court of public opinion.

That being said, I never supported nor support the DNC at the expense of my conscience.  I am still waiting for you to find where you claimed I actively supported Hillary, 'cos it never happened.
let me leave u on this. since i'm yet to fish out where you supported her . . . or perhaps i confuse you with kobojunkie. . , sometimes i dont know the difference

AI don't know what you mean by political analysis, 'cos I do not think I engage in such. If you are refering to the outcome of the election, here is what I said: We finally agree on something. This election is too close to call, all the polls nothwithstanding. We were told of Kerry sweeping Bush away last election as well, and yet we know better. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=190071.msg3025647#msg3025647 
Here's another quote from me: In short, I can not put my money on this election. It is way too complicated to predict.
And here is what I had to say about Obama - [color=#000099]
dude,let me tell you something, when u come here and make statements about politicians and their chances of winning and/or the outcome of their policies, and/or ur own preferred ''policies'' or suggestions etc, u are a political contributor in nairaland. and ipso facto political analyst . . albeit unpaid.

And it must pain your heart that the most villified and conservative person of the lot, Michelle bachman retained her seat.  This is despite all the money the DNC poured into MN to unseat her.

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pain? nope. who cares but i was taken aback when i heard her make a statement about america's greatness in being a country that crossed racial barrier in electing the first black president. . . . shoooo shocked ahaaa, i forgot, she is a religious woman in a religious party who told americans the truth about the unamerican members of congress . . . including obama. . . sooo godly. god is a republican . . . cheesy

[quote]Norm Coleman is a classic case of a political prostitute. he is neither here nor there and so his loss means nothing to me.
ooops . . .failure is an orphan . . . . this godly senator has been denied grin
Besides, Al Frnaken and the DNC are really stealing the election and it is not yet over. the case is in court. Are you following all the details?

ooops. . . just when i thot u dont give a damn about him . . . . perhaps he may still end up godly . . . .if he wins the case in court . . anyway, like i said. . i dont care about minnesota politics . . i'm more interested in what gordon brown is saying


It's good to see you've got a sense of good taste even though I can not say that of your politics!  wink
nothing personal bro. just differences in opinion. i dont hate u, even when i seem combative, u are still my nigerian brother or atleast my black brother. all humans are brothers. children of God lipsrsealed sorry only republicans are god's children
By the way who are you? I suppose your username is new and you must have been on nairaland before.

thot you'll know from the tone of my writings. . . i am darfur cool
now they'll ban me again
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CultureRe: Igbo Kwenu! kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/Lady by preselect(m): 6:19pm On Feb 02, 2009
umunne m na umunna m, darfur n'ekele ooo
Foreign AffairsRe: RNC Elect First African American Chairman by preselect(m): 6:16pm On Feb 02, 2009
tayo try to encourage ur runaway partner in analysis, mr kobojunkie to return to active foreign section punditry. i'll love to read his write ups . . . if he has not banned himself from this section grin

by the way, on a lighter mood, i just looked at ur profile, nice pix wink , great muscles
Foreign AffairsRe: RNC Elect First African American Chairman by preselect(m): 6:08pm On Feb 02, 2009
mr tayo D

those who jumped ship from republican party to support hillary had similar political inclination like you. . . . political prostitutes. (forgive my use of the word prostitute, it has nothing to do with your moral rectitude. it is just a political statement.)

some did it to undo obama (like kobojunkie et al) some did it to create chaos in the democratic primary . . . .and hence undo obama, some did it b/c they had no political ideology, they just vote for a woman whom they think is beautiful (as they went on to support sarah palin more than old john) . some did it b/c others were doing it.

concerning ur support for hillary, was it not you and my kobojunkie (not sure if toshmann was among) who kept hammering on hillary? anyway i have to look for those threads. you, kobojunkie, negro-nations and toshmann have created an image of anti obamarism on nairaland. between you and kobojunkie, one has a hard time knowing who said what. but i remember very well,

ALL YOUR POLITICAL ANALYSIS DURING THE ELECTION WAS PROVED WRONG. YOU GUYS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM MAKING ANY ANALYSIS IN POLITICS

my greates joy? . . . obama won in Ohio where toshmann lives, won in minesota where u live and even a comedian was prefered to ur senator. lizard people were voted out in minnesota
Foreign AffairsRe: RNC Elect First African American Chairman by preselect(m): 6:29am On Feb 01, 2009
tayo D says africans are conservative in nature. hmmn, what do u mean? conservatives in what sense? the american political conservative or what. i dont know about ur own part of africa mr tayo D, but in my own africa, we are our brothers keeper. we work hard but we know sometimes people have hard luck and need help. we have extended family system. and when people are weak they get help. that seems like welfarism. seems like what the democrat party offers.

and though the democrat party tolerates gays, etc . . .i believe why the party attracts africa americans is b/c the party is a ''welcoming'' party. it accepts u whatever u are. and that looks like what the original US was, a nation that accepts all sorts of people and offers them opportunity. no wonder it is the oldest party in the world.

tayo d, find another excuse.
Foreign AffairsRe: RNC Elect First African American Chairman by preselect(m): 6:21am On Feb 01, 2009
hillary john mccain

pro choice pro life
pro tax tax cuts
bigger govt less govt
anti death penalty pro death penalty?
universal healthcare privatised healthcare

how different could 2 politicians be? yet tayo D and kobojunkie jumped from hillary to mccain in less than 24hrs. are these the type of pundits that we should listen to in nairaland?
Foreign AffairsRe: RNC Elect First African American Chairman by preselect(m): 6:13am On Feb 01, 2009
anybody that takes tayo D or toshmann seriously or negro ntns or even kobojunkie (who has absconded the foreing affairs unit of nairaland since obama won the election) is either new, or cant learn well.

these are the same people who tendered all sorts of political assessments only to see the opposite on nov 4th.

what is tayo D saying about conservatism? is this not the same dude who backed hillary against obama in the democratic primary? what has a conservative got to do with a democrat like hillary(that witch)? immediately after the democratic primaries , tayo D and kobojunkie gave 5 million reasons why McCain is the right choice. what has McCain and hillary got in common that may explain an immediate support for old john after hillary lost to a better candidate. talk of political prostitution. their policy is anything against obama is good.

these people have no political ideology and should be banned from making political analysis.
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Yobe State Governor, Senator Mamman Bello Ali Is Dead! by preselect(m): 11:57pm On Jan 27, 2009
Yep!!! He just put an end to the 'ooohs' and the 'o ma she oos' on this one !!! ROFLMAO!!
haaa, mr kobojunkie, na here u dey hide now? grin have u heard of

[size=28pt]president obama[/size] cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

i heard u had a major depression after he won . . . . grin . . . . . and went into sincere psychotic disorder after he was inaugurated. . . . e go better grin

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