₦airaland Forum

Fhemmmy:
I still wont even praise how he spent the money, cos it is his duty to provide those amenities to the people, he is not the owner of the money, it is the state's money, each money when allocation is made, it is made to the pple of his state and he is only a manager of the funds, he is getting paid for managing the fund, so i still wont praise him for nothing.
I might beg for a reduced sentence for him sha, but will never praise the negro

we are together, i may beg for reduced sentence for him, but b4 that, he has to be prosecuted. the justice minister is very busy for that. but like i said, i praised the use of the money, so that poor man can at least get what he is supposed to get. i prolly should not have to praise him, i agree, but i had to, b/c i know where i'm coming from. it's been doom, doom,doom from elected officials since 1999, or even since1960

gov obi is not the problem. he is a product of the system. we are talking about a system where people can do things and get away with it. if there were punishments for such crimes, he wont dare do what he did or if he does it, he wont dare announce it.

we have a system that is so deep in us, every nigerian. as displayed here in nairaland where people cant disagree without abusing each other. a system where criminals get honorary titles, a system where it is a ''great thing'' for a governor/ elected public official to spend public money for public good, a system where electoral malpractices are the norm(even in 2009) a nation of anything goes. to single out a governor, who took money (immorally) to buy buses and taxes for the public is like buying panadol for a headache. we should not just cover the headache with panadol, we should find out the cause of the headache . . . . it could be malaria, or typhoid fever. it it is not treated, the headache will return.

asha 80:
@BigB1

You are condenming corruption meanwhile you are an IBB staunch supporter.What an irony!

that is how great thinkers operate in nigeria

Fhemmmy:
i am not sure if anyone is rejecting the services, however, i will not praise him, cos he hasnt dont anything special, all he has done are things that are expected of his governance, good raod and buses and all that crap are things that will benefit his people and the buses i am sure is generating money into the pocket of his govt, so he hasnt done nothing special, however, he shd be jailed for collecting bribe.

fhemmy, i did not praise him. read my initial post please. . .abeg . . i praised how he used it. i did not praise him. bekee

intelligent, rational, superior thinkers. . .a.k.a IBB, whose great intelligence told him Babangida was the best person to rule nigeria . . . .

IBB,

i'm no fool. i'm from imo state, how many buses did my governor put on the road? imagine if the governor used that ''bribe money'' to equip a hospital, say, buy extra oxygen cylinders in a hospital . . . . that can save 1 or 2 lives a day for about 2 weeks . . . . it is ''praiseworthy'' that some lives have been saved by a governors faulty fiscal decision. i'm being practical. i come from a poor background and i know hardship as it were back home. i know what a little relief means for a poor man. it doesnt mean i agree with his ''gift policy'' but i welcome the service rendered. period.

it will serve us better to prosecute him than to reject the services the money rendered.

Fhemmmy:
it is the duty of the state govt to provide amenities for the people, so he has done nothing extra ordinary, infact, he shd be jailed for accepting bribe.

i dont know ur location, but a few yrs ago i was in nigeria. . . then a governor is praised for installing bore hole in a village with state funds . .    money that is even enough to make water available in people's homes/bathrooms . . . and a governor is praised for it. nigeria is a nation where it is extraordinary to serve the public with public funds.

now u are coming closer to my point. if you read my initial post, you will see where i noted that the nation is so corrupt that someone can think of using this means to look like a hero. . . .

this is how bad a nation has become. i hear another election has been annulled. has anyone been prosecuted for all these faulty elections? no punishment. hence the gov can come out with this sh-t b/c he knows there is no punishment. he may even be rewarded. i feel for the masses

Big B1:
@pres-elect:
Obviously, you've missed the point.
And I see why your local government reps will forever suck you and your people dry, while they claim that they only collect bribe to build hospitals.
What a despicable state of mind.

Nigeria will be a better country as soon as the citizens are bold enough to stand upright for what is right; instead of settling for nothing and busy looking for excuses for thieves.

if you read my initial post, you will see where i said ''i reject his decision to accept the money'' . . but because u wanted to argue, u left that and underlined the part that suited ur purpose. bribe is bribe, but when the deed is done, who suffers. we can stay in london here to post good grammar, but the guy in onitcha who has a better bus to take him home is a little bit reliefed. he should be prosecuted. but in the meantime, it would have been worse if he used the money to build a castle for himself as his predecessors did.

that is my point.

i agree

I agree, retarded thinkers praise a governor using money he believes belongs to the state for public good. i totally agree with you. . . great thinker

Amen.

and God bless the people who are enjoying some new buses and taxis . . .

and may God never forget the other people who are still managing molues and rickety taxis even though their state has the money . .

AMEN!!!!

Kobojunkie:
_{Here we go again!!! I hope we do not RE-define the word now. . . .}


bribe definition

noun

anything, esp. money, given or promised to induce a person to do something illegal or wrong

anything given or promised to induce a person to do something against his or her wishes

from this definition, a good lawyer can prove that this is no bribe.
1. it was not given to him to induce him to do something wrong/illegal. . . it was given to him . . after he had done something legal( awarding a contract)

2. it was not given or promised to induce him to do something against his wish. it was his wish to give a contract.

anyway, the issue is that the country is soo corrupt, and shamelessly so, that it looks like bravery to come out openly to say this kind of thing . . . and it looks like heroism to state where the money was channeled into. the governor is not the problem, the system is the problem. he cant stop it alone.( though he can do better than that)

note that while i reject his decision to accept that money, i still praise how he used it. only God knows how the other governors/ministers/local govt mayors are using their own ''gifts'' to do.

in the world of lepers, the man with eczema is the sanitation chief. . . . nigeria

davidylan:
funding shipyards = pork
modernizing the rail system = pork
funding alternative energy sources = pork

Someone pls tell me what exactly pork means.

pork= when a man posts about some pork which only he can see and runs away from the thread

kobojunkie's brain must be full of po-- . .

koboko , na so u take re-enter foreign section , e be like say the post election depression wey hit you been affect your brain

Mmuo:
Umu Igbo, ndi Chukwu kere choo ezi mma, ka anyi ji nu asusu anyi na-anya isi.O bu ejiri mara obodo obula.
Chukwu gozie ndi huru Igbo n'anya na ndi na-akwado okwu Igbo.
Ka onyenweanti nonyere anyi niile ruo mgbe ebighi ebi, Amen.

chineke m eeeee
onye mmuo abatala threadia eeee

ebelebe igba

bia, onye mmuo, kedu side owerre ibi? ebiri m owerre b4 m gbaputa london

youngies:
@Ify the rate iji ekega ihe a, e-feel-lim na oge eluola mgbe iga e-change aha to Kezaya Onyeneke after i mere Dafur ebere nye ya otu onu.

nwanne biko nyere m aka campaign for one hand. . . ify bikonuo o o o o o darfur wukwanu mmadu

@Ikomi na Agaba obulu na unu akwusighi iga ije agwo a unu na ga, you will leave me no option than to suffocate you guys with umu akwuna from umunede.

hehehe tosh nu nke a , o ga asi gi tinye ya na list ndi aga eme suffocate . .

@Tosh, diplomatic passport gi is ready I nwela direct access to any country of your choice i huru umuasa. Marakwa na agaghi a-search gi.

heheheheeee, ebelebe igba. . . igba ngba gbakirigba umuoma akula internationally

wait a minute

so there are groups that castrate their fellow human beings in this century. . .

and they are complaining about osu issue . . . darfur don suffer . .

osus can sleep with anybabe they take homeor any guy that takes them home, the only thing they may not be able to do, sometimes, is marry a non osu, if the non osu's family objects and the non osus succumbs to family pressure . . . .and y'all are attacking igbos like this, while you get human beings and catrate them , so they cant even have sex with anybody . . . talkless of marrying in this age

and some still bury some dead kings with life human beings

and una de attack us like this


abegi, . . . . anyway i knew the thread was not about osu, it was about calling a dog a bad name to hang it______igbobashing exercise . . . . una de try

osisi my sister no mind that onu ukpaka akwuna mutara. . . . . nwa ahu wu humpty dumpty ojooo ruru unyi . . .
some people really wanted some insight into the osu issue but some had hidden agenda, and already assumed expert authority on igbo issues themselves.

i predict that very soon another osu discussion will emanate from nowhere . . . .and new people will learn of it. . . keeping it alive . . .and then turning around to bash us for what our ancestors did.

@negro-ntns

finally u have come to understand what i've been saying all along. . . dont ask-dont tell works. it will take time to wipe it out finally but it works. . . . anyway, better late than never able to comprehend

once again, i reiterate myself, i may need to say it 3ice for u to grab

i am an independent observer,

well, i have to blame somebody as toshmann said. not me. hoha

tell them

i cant blame myself for everything. if u dont want me to blame the devil then you can provide someone i can blame. . . . not me.

artificial virginity . . .  

what happens to the natural virgins _extinct. . . anybody promoting virginity here

ify, okwa ima na inyechala ndi nile na threadia ihe gi, mana inyebe darfur. kedukwanu oge m ga eji abia were nke m?

ify biakene, bia zi m ihe i bu n'obi o, oyi m oma
ify biakene, bia zi m ihe i bu n'obi o, oyi m oma

ihe ibu n'obi, ihe ibu n'obi n'adi aru m mma, oyi m oma

ify ji gaa ogbete wee gota brezi, oyi m oma
ify ga agwa m reason o ji eyi brezi, oyi m oma

ara nwa ona ezo, obughi oputa opiri?

agaba piri
tosh piri
ikomi piri

onye puta opiri
ka m ga piri nke m o

Negro_Ntns:
Pritti,

I think you asked a very valid question when you stated the following quote and I thought someone would answer it, . . . Now, maybe the word tortue was a strong one, but I merely meant to show that to say that something is "only psychological stigma" seeks to diminish the effects the actions can have on the psyche of a person. If you are not an Osu, how do you know that it is "only a stigma" and that the stigma is minimal? Only an Osu can speak to that issue_____prittyyyyy

Anyone care to answer?

then perhaps you can go and get an osu to speak on that issue

this whole discussion of osu issue by our emergency osu experts is just another igbo bashing ploy , not only are they not offering tangible solutions, they are intentionally being confrontational and judgemental with the intention to bash, accuse, and abuse the igbos. . . . perhaps we deserve it, for what our ancestors did, but the aim of this discussion is to igbobash . . . i understand no stress, . . . .

but for the igbos, dont let guilt complex enter you, unless you are racist or prejudicial. any igbo guy here who discriminates against his/her fellow igbo or indeed anybody whatsoever . . .shame on you , but if you are liberal, accept your fellow human being as he/she is, dont go about looking for whom to call one name or the other, then you have nothing to worry about. it's great to be igbo be proud.

if you are osu, dont tell me, tell no one, be happy, be proud, b/c you are igbo too.

if you want to marry and the osu thing is in the way, decide. . . will you damn ur family and marry or will you sell out ur rlshp? hard decision, but u must choose one, and stand by it. . . . . . . . proudly. if you are osu and u are rejected in marriage, . . pity . . . but dont despair . . . . get another partner . . . it may even be better than the former, smile and move on.

@all nigerians . . . .

best wishes from the igbos

ole di ebe ndi igbo gara these days. . . . odika m ga abiaghachi threadia full time. ike iba mba na mkpaghari di na other threads agwula m

bia umunaaeeeee, oleee unu? ify, ezeumunwanyi, agabakwuna. . . , otele, olee ebe ndi a gara sef?

abi mmawu no taa , anyway, ka m ruo ahia eke ga lee ma aga m azuta azu mangala

yawn!!!!!!

tired of debating with people who will never change. their only guiding principle is "anything against obama is good" . . . .yawn!!!

less than a month into office, someone says he is already a failure for the mess he inherited . . yawns!!!!!!!

rush lumbaugh blamed obama for the mess while he was still the president-elect . . .yawn!!!!!!!!

majority of economists in the US and even the UK have said a stimulus is necessary including old john's economic advicer and mahority of right wing economists, but "sudden on-set emergency economists" and republican holy economists think otherwise . . . yawns!!!!!!!!!!

do nothing does nothing but new improved novel prize deserving holy economists think otherwise . . . . "yawn!!!!!!

obama has said this thing is not perfect . . . . but is surely better than nothing. but the do-nothingers feel otherwise. . . .yawns!!!!!!!!!

okay o, what do i know, i'm just another struggling foreign student trapped in by the river thames . . yawns out!!!!!!

richy u may pay a little visit to the culture section of this website and see how we unite in nigeria

lol

eeeee so this mess started with bill clinton eh . . .

so the surplus clinton left for little george was a mess, and in trying to fix the mess, little george replaced it with huge deficits huh

honestly, some people should relocate to the jokes section . . . .

those fears are not very pronouced in my generation. in my father's generation. . . yes, but in my generation . . no.

if i bring a girl to marry, and my father says the girl is osu. he doesnt endorse the girl, what do i do? tell me. i love the girl and i love my father. i want them both. what do i do? tell me. dump my dad, who has loved me all his life? dump a girl, who has done me no wrong?

my father's generation grew up with a mind set that we did not experience as we were growing up. we are different. but then until the generation that saw this culture passes away, it may be with us for a while. most young guys i know today know very little about osu, but do you know the good news . . . they dont want to know.

imagine a world where no one wants to know about it. it fades away. so dont ask dont tell works

but there are experts here who disagree.

may be after the first female pope, things may change

@prittygrrr

you make valid points. it's serious, should be addressed. . . but how do you propose it is addressed. . . and by who? you guys dont understand the igbo culture and way of life. i have noticed that suddenly non-igbos in nairaland have become experts on igbo affairs.

nobody anywhere in this world has the ability to legislate marriage. marriage is something that is a mutual understanding between the persons involved. if i want to marry a white girl and her parents bluntly refuse to accept a black man, nigerian for that matter, what do i do? go to court? if the girl insists, we'll get married regardless. there is no court case here. same with the osu thing.

by the way, ignoring it is working. i know some igbo villages where peole get married without asking if the other person is osu. the ngwa people in abia state have ignored it completely and some places in anambra state too. dont ask dont tell will help eliminate it over the generations.

there was a time osu and non osus can not use the same market, or walk the same street at a the same time. . . dont ask dont tell has wiped it out. i am igbo, i believe there are osus in my village, but i dont know who. i dont ask. nobody has told me anything. i interact with everybody in the village. who here will say there's injustice in that village?

but some people who cant speak igbo have become igbo experts

even some dirty fat humpty-dumpty morons with not only down syndrome but also patau syndrome, edwards syndrome, congenital syphillis all with profound mental retardation

@negro-ntns

i am an independent observer

@ akamu n'odu karmamod

this is for you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJyIWXSlfWo