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Lol, coming from the The Nation newspaper, I will take this news with a pinch of salt. That apology of a media house is nothing but Tinubu's propaganda machinery.

Arapmoi22:
I CHOSE TO DO THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE KNOWLEDGEABLE ONES WHO WANTS TO KNOW MORE.
I DO NOT INTEND TO CONVINCE THOSE WHOSE MIND ARE LOCKED WITH FOOLISHNESS LIKE A SIAMESE.

LAGOS:

1. Due to the Reclaim of Atlantic Ocean by some miles in order to save VI from Ocean Surge it experienced in the year 2000s, Lagos under the Current President carved out Eko Atlantic City.
2. To the left of the Ship navigation route into Apapa Wharf from the Atlantic is Tarkwa Bay.
3. The Distance from the mouth of the Lagoon at the Atlantic to Apapa Wharf is 3.15 Miles (Orange line).
4. The Distance from the mouth of the Lagoon at the Atlantic to Tin Can Port is 5.59 Miles (Green line).
5. Ignore the Ignorance of OP or his Followers for saying what they don't know. Any figures he brandished are beer parlor tales.

GO TO OBEAKU:

6. The Distance from the mouth of the Opobo creek at the Atlantic to Imo River at the southernmost point of Abia State is 31.3 Miles (Pink/ Red line)
7. The distance from the southernmost point of Abia State to Obeaku along River Imo is 5.2 Miles (Orange line).
8. The distance from Obeaku to River Imo is 1.5 Miles (straight distance) -- Yellow line.

In essence, Lagos and Obuaku are both viable for seaports!

Gajagojo:
What is the name of the Lagoon where Tin Can is located

I am.telling you it is not on a lagoon

Na wa o. Do you have different names for Lagos lagoon?

Apapa and Tincan are on Lagos lagoon. Look at the map below and quit arguing!

PoloG:
una finish igbos for this thread oo

Lol, on the contrary, haters like you were schooled properly.

AwkaFinest:
Your problem is worse than ignorance. How much federal government presence do you see in the creeks? Abi na wetin Dem write for book dey fool you.

It's sad but no port built in the SE today will be viable. Only Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom or Cross River can build a viable sea port if they truly want to do it.


I'm done with your ignorance. All you've been writing is just wishful nonsense.
We Igbos better start using our brains and start building lasting bridges with our southern neighbors, instead of this empty chest beating you are doing.

Lol, dumb impostor. Igbos are intelligent, so you can't impersonate them successfully when you're so dull Be proud of whatever miserable ethnicity you belong and stop fooling yourself with that moniker.

It pains you so much to realize that Igboland is not landlocked as you haters have always wished.


I have tried to educate you but you're so dense you can't even imbibe knowledge. If I'm your parents, I will sue all the schools you attended for refund because it's all a waste if resources.

AwkaFinest:
Are you aware that for Edo or even Kaduna to build a port they must have done feasibility studies which includes an agreement with the FG and other states where there vessels may pass through?

Are you aware than Obuaku has no direct access to the sea, rather just has access to Imo river that empties into the sea via the waterways of Opobo and Eastern Obolo which are in Rivers and Akwa Ibom respectively?

Abi you wan tell another man how to police em own waters?

I'm trying to understand if your problem is ignorance or just mischief. Kaduna has no business building seaport because it's completely landlocked.

Edo is building a seaport because it's very close to Atlantic and thus will be viable. Abia can also build a viable seaport because it's even better positioned than Edo.

The Imo river in question is not under the control of any particular state because it forms a boundary between three states.

Policing our waterways is done by the federal government.

Do you still want to continue being myopic?

AwkaFinest:
Abia state just like Niger, Kogi, Nasarawa or Benue state can build a River Port. These states just like Abia has no direct access to the sea, rather through a river channel that crosses through other states before emptying into the sea.

For Abia to build a port they must have bilateral agreement with the states and communities that have direct access to the sea, in this case Rivers and Akwa Ibom. Because whatever vessel that's going to Abia must pass through the parts of Imo river that's bounded by Rivers and Akwa Ibom. If these 2 areas decides to make the channel unsafe, Abia will be left at the mercy of either the FG or the governors of those 2 states.

Are you aware that Edo state is building Gelegele seaport?

Are you aware that Edo state has no maritime boundary with Atlantic ocean, they would have to pass through Delta state before arriving Atlantic ocean?

Which bilateral agreement did Edo state sign with Delta state?

Are you aware that Imo river forms a boundary between Rivers, Abia and Akwa Ibom state? And it's only a mere 18 miles from Obuaku to Atlantic ocean?

Abia state only needs permission from federal government since building ports is on exclusive list.

Below is the map of Nigeria showing states, so compare Abia with Edo and gain knowledge.

Gajagojo:
what has the argument you call blind got to do with whether a port is built on a lagoon or river

Did you comprehend the argument

Lagoon or river is irrelevant

Since you want to bring that up

What is a lagoon?

Don't hide behind a finger

Tell us the port that was built on a Lagoon and the name of the Lagoon

You're the one that lack comprehension, otherwise you would have seen where I wrote that Lagos ports (i.e. Apapa and Tincan) we're built on inland lagoon. It is only the recently built Lekki that was built on the coast.

So, what are you not clear about?

Styluss:
OP I stand to be corrected, I checked the map of Nigeria keenly and still couldnt see any SE states being bounded with the Atlantic ocean. Are you saying your states will reach a consensus with the neighboring SS States?
Or deep sea ports no longer need the ocean? I'm confused here

No, you're not getting the point. You don't need to be a coastal state before you can build a seaport. That's the mistake most of you are making. Provided you have a river that is deep enough and lies close to the ocean, then you can build a perfect seaport!

Now, take a look at the map of Nigeria below, you can see that Edo state does not border the Atlantic ocean yet they're currently building a seaport!

Again, compare Edo and Abia state on the map, and you will see that Abia state is actually closer to Atlantic ocean than Edo state. It's only a mere 18 miles from Obuaku, through Imo river to Atlantic ocean!

Gajagojo:
It has been said but it is untrue and irrational

If a port is a seaport then it is on the sea which is the ocean

How then is it logical to say that that the throat is closer to the lips than the teeth? Is that rational? Are those the words of a person whose brain is functioning normally

Why didn't you give us one example of such a place in the SE and a reference seaport and the distances.
Just one example

Another blind argument. Almost all the seaports that were built in Nigeria, except Lekki were either built on a river or lagoon. If you say no, then mention them!

Lagos seaport was built on an inland lagoon, ships would have to make a detour round it before accessing Atlantic ocean, 50 nautical miles in distance!

Onne port and P.H ports were built on inland rivers, and ships have to go many nautical miles before getting to Atlantic ocean!

Obuaku on Imo river in Abia state is only a mere 18 nautical miles to Atlantic ocean. The Imo river at this section forms the boundary between Rivers, Abia and Akwa Ibom states.

Pick a godamn map of Nigeria and study!!!

AwkaFinest:
Did you see me mentioning Abia?
I'm talking of Imo and Anambra.



You guys should stop disgracing ndi Igbo. Bikonu!

Okay, you now accept that Abia state can build a sea port just like Lagos, Rivers, Akwa Ibom etc. So, what is disgrace again?

Or you can't help being bitter at that realization?

horsepower102:
New research by McKenzie projects Onitsha as one of the mega cities in the Africa and the world
By 2040. This study was done by outside organization. Not by people in Nigeria, so no need for tribal bias.

If you study the map Onitsha population is projected to rival that of Lagos and far surpass Kano.

Wow, Onitsha is projected to surpass both Kano and Ibadan by 2040 and be close to Lagos!

Now is time to improve on infrastructure!

AwkaFinest:
OP you mean both PH, Imo, and Anambra are closer to the sea than Onne?

Imo and Anambra are closer to the sea than PH?



My people, make we dey lie small small.

Study the two maps below critically. You will see that Obuaku is at the southern tip of Abia state, at the boundary between Abia, Akwa Ibom and Rivers.

The Imo river that flows from it is what forms the boundary between these states. This section is closer than both Onne and P.H port to Atlantic ocean.

TheGreatIYANU:
I don't understand what you mean by Lagos state is 50 miles to the Atlantic?!

Lagos is literally situated ON the Atlantic.

Care to elucidate?

There is a huge bar of land that almost blocked the entire lagoon from Atlantic ocean. Ships have to make a detour around it before getting into Atlantic ocean, that's why.

Remember that Lagos ports were built inland of that large expanse of land blocking the lagoon from the ocean.

Take a look at map of Lagos you will see what I'm telling you.

Ezeama400:
BREAKING!!

NIGERIA RESTRUCTURING BILL CONCLUDED READY FOR RATIFICATION:

Below is the kite being flown by the Federal Government on Restructuring

Nigerian Economic Restructuring Bill 2021

[1] Nigeria will be made up of 42 states, with seven per each of her constituent geo-political zone. These shall be:

South-south
[1] Bayelsa State - Yenagoa
[2] Western Ijaw State - Patani
[3] Rivers State - Port Harcourt
[4] Cross River State - Calabar
[5] Akwa Ibom State - Uyo
[6] Edo State - Benin
[7] Delta State - Warri

Northeast
[1] Mambilla State - Gashaka
[2] Taraba State - Jalingo
[3] Adamawa State - Yola
[4] Borno State - Maiduguri
[5] Yobe State - Damaturu
[6] Bauchi State - Bauchi
[7] Gombe State - Gombe

Southeast
[1] Anioma State - Asaba
[2] Orashi State - Omoku
[3] Anambra State - Awka
[4] Imo State - Owerri
[5] Enugu State - Enugu
[6] Abia State - Umuahia
[7] Ebonyi State - Abakaliki

North-Central
[1] Abuja State - FCT
[2] Gurara State - Kafanchan
[3] Benue State - Makurdi
[4] Plateau State - Jos
[5] Nasarawa State - Lafia
[6] Kogi State - Lokoja
[7] Niger State - Minna

Southwest
[1] Kwara State - Ilorin
[2] Oyo State - Ibadan
[3] Ogun State - Abeokuta
[4] Lagos State - Ikeja
[5] Ondo - Akure
[6] Ekiti - Ado-Ekiti
[7] Osun - Oshogbo

Northwest
[1] Sokoto State - Sokoto
[2] Kebbi State - Birnin Kebbi
[3] Kaduna State - Kaduna
[4] Katsina State - Katsina
[5] Kano State - Kano
[6] Jigawa State - Dutse
[7] Zamfara State - Gusua

[2] Each state will be responsible for creating and funding its local governments as it deems fit. Local governments will be funded internally by the charging of a local tax, which will be augmented by a state grant representing no more than 10% of TV
[3] Over a 35 year period, we gradually migrate back to the 1957/58 revenue sharing formula agreed by our founding fathers at the Lancaster House Conferences in London under which the federating units will control all the resources within their domains and remit 50% to the centre

[4] Our federating units will keep 50% of all the revenue that they generate, put a further 20% into a central pot called the Excess Federation Account to which everyone can have access as the need arises, 10% will go into a geo-political zone account and the remaining 20% will go to into the Federation Account used to run the federal government

[5] With regards to all other resources, we shall move towards this immediately but in the case of oil and gas, the move will have to be gradual due to how dependent we have become on these two resources. A gradual migration shall take place over the next 35 years in this manner: 2000 - 13%, 2021 - 18%, 2023 - 20%, 2025 - 25%, 2030 - 30%, 2035 - 35%, 2040 - 40%, 2045 - 45%, 2050 - 50%

[6] Every one of our 42 states will be set a target of generating at least $2bn in export revenue. Any state government that attracts inward investment to the tune of $1bn, will get a corresponding grant from the federal government

[7] Any state that fails to generate as much revenue as it spends for two consecutive years as from 2020, will be subject to an immediate declaration of a state of emergency. It shall be administered centrally by the federal government until its books are balanced

[8] Every state must seek to generate at least 30% of its internal revenue from manufacturing and services, with a migration away from primary products to value added production

[9] Every state is free to create more local governments provided they meet the necessary criteria which includes holding a referendum and the fact that the local government area is self-sustaining. To be recognised as a local government area, basic facilities that must exist within the domain include 20 primary schools, five secondary schools, a local government headquarters, at least one vocational training college and at least one public health centre

[10] All local and state governments will as a matter of course award supply contracts to companies that manufacture products within Nigeria. Only as a last resort will companies that manufacture products abroad be granted government contracts.


Nlfpmod Nlfpmod Proeast

Nice!!!

It gets even better!!!

But as usual the haters will get scared again and start wondering if it will benefit Igbos so they can stop it

Odibembem:
How can Anambra, Abia and Imo be closer to the Atlantic Ocean than Lagos, Rivers and Akwa Ibom whose continental shelf rest directly with d Atlantic. Why do u guys just ridicule yourselves anyhow? Does Anambra, Abia and Imo have continental shelves? Haba Nnamdi!!!!

Pick up a map of Lagos and study it, you will see that its port was built on a lagoon that is inland, ships will have to make a detour before arriving Atlantic ocean, that's why it's long despite being on a lower latitude than the SE states I mentioned.

Again, take a look at the map of Abia state, you will find Obuaku at its most southern point, which lies much lower than where Rivers ports were built. Rivers ports weren't built on the shore but inland.

You're the one making a fool of yourself out of ignorance.

Odibembem:
Ndigbos do not have access to the sea so they cannot have a seaport. The best is to rely on the Eastern ports of Calabar, Ibak, Onne and Warri, at least they are closer to u. Stop wishing for what nature has not naturally given u, make use of the next best thing. No FG would waste any billions in $$ to dreg an lake or river port. South East govs and biz men should collaborate to build a rail line from Onne or Calabar thru Aba and Owerri all d way to Onitsha or Enugu, after all rail is now on d concurrent list

Which state are you from?

France is now looking like a third world country. Any country with large Muslim population will always be at risk of violence.

gentiles:
You call this luxurious? it is luxurious by Yoruba standard

Lol, you never see anything yet. There standard is at floor level

Hundreds of buildings in Owerri and Enugu that are far better than this are springing up everywhere without anyone noticing because they're too many, but they call for celebration when one is built in Ibadan

I don't blame the op anyways, if you live in a town that is largely slum, any decent building will become eye-catching

paramakina202:
So Anambra state is now closer to the ocean than Abia state?
Is like saying one location in Kogi state is 15 mile to the ocean while a location in Anambra is 40 miles to the ocean how did it happen.
Btw SE can build River Ports not Sea ports because we do not have ocean shore in SE.

First picture below is the aerial picture of Onne ports, Rivers State. The other two are from Lagos.

Can you now see they're all inland and Atlantic ocean is no where to be found, until ships navigate several miles? If you can't call these ones river ports, then why call the ones in SE river ports since there is no difference?

FSBoperator:
Lol

Nah so Una go boast say Una pay big bride price for one used olosho .


Not everyone is like you with a covetous spirit.

And what in God's name go carry me go cannibal zone?

I dey mad nii?

You keep yapping about olosho, it seems you're surrounded by them.

Talking about ritual and other disgusting fetish, it is far more prevalent in SW than anywhere else in Nigeria.

Akungitit:
How can you build a seaport when you have no sea?
😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣

Ignorance shouldn't be celebrated. All you need is a big river that is connected to a sea. There are several of such Rivers in Igboland that are close to Atlantic ocean.

Most ports that were built in Nigeria weren't built on the shore, they were built inland. Including the ones in Lagos, Rivers, and Delta etc.

Go back to secondary school, kiddo.

FSBoperator:
Who wan buy land for Clifford Orji land ?

I get land already and not looking at another man's land

Besides that land is also too expensive like your retired but not tired olosho women you pay through your nose to marry.

Is it our fault that you're poor? Land is always expensive in high value areas. That's why lands in Lagos, Abuja, SE and SS are expensive while lands in SW and North are dirt cheap.

That's also the reason most of you keep talking nonsense about Igbos not selling land to outsiders. Anybody who can afford it will easily buy lands in SE. But if you need dirt cheap lands then go to the North or SW outside Lagos region.

dominic17:
Trash! is there any state Yorubas developed on their own?The Lagos you guys pride with was developed with common wealth of the entire nation for over 77years, now you guys out of greediness are oppressing non Yorubas because it is located in your region. Truth be told, if not that Lagos was formal capital the Yoruba land would have been the most backward region in the entire country. The little development we have around Ogun state and Oyo state is due to their proximity to Lagos which was the formal capital

Lol, those people are the most delusional in Nigeria. How can people that mostly live in derelict slums claim to be successful? Even NE with all the Boko Haram problem and remote location still have more beautiful cities and towns than the SW!

Anyways, they can continue deceiving themselves but reality will still humble them.

Lol, you can't be living in towns and villages that are mostly shanties and still claim to be successful. You can't even change ordinary roofs that are rusted and leaking, talk more of building new houses yet claim to be successful.

Always boasting and making mouth with nothing to show for it.

demmie1:
There is something fundamentally wrong with you people and it must be a deep and ancestral curse for you to claim states sharing boarders with the sea are further inland than states behind them to the sea. Imagine placing any point in anambra state nearer than port Harcourt to the Atlantic because you want caress your own ego.
Pls share the map to back up your post before you try to insult people that are sane again.

I didn't measure it myself, but a careful look at the Google map shows that Obuaku in Abia state is closer to the Atlantic than Lagos or P.H ports.

The mistake you guys keep making is believing that all ports are built on the coastal lines. That's wrong, almost all the ports in Nigeria are inland, including Lagos and P.H.

gidgiddy:
Unfortunately, the South East is still part of Nigeria and thats the problem

You need federal government concession and approval to build a port, and even if you do, all tariffs and duties will still be collected by the federal government

But I admit it will stimulate economic growth and shift reliance on Lagos

We don't mind who collects the tariff at the ports, but SE urgently need to have functional seaports that will compliment/rival Lagos. That's the only way to reduce tension in Lagos before they start killing themselves out of envy and bitterness.

Igbos are aggressive capitalists, while the ronu bigots are docile socialists. They will always lag behind and then start hating on the progressive ones.

Parachoco:
Most of them just talk rubbish

He does not know the massive cost it will take to dredge does Rivers. It will cost Billions of Dollars, I doubt Environmentalist will even agree to such a thing.

To finance the dredging of Oguta and link it with the Atlantic Ocean, we are talking of more than $50 billion. It will even lead to the destruction of the Creek and the Niger Delta

The Eco system of the Niger Delta will be destroyed

The South East already have the Onitsha Port

Hateful Olodo, it will cost far less to dredge to those ports in SE than in Lagos. The SE ports have deep flowing Rivers that are shorter in distance to the Atlantic ocean.

LOVEALAIGBO:
I don't know why anytime there's talk of south-east or Igboland getting a seaport, certain cretins will arrive on the thread to display their insecurities and hate! Most of them are not even in the same region or border the south-east/Igboland, but they will carry the matter for head like their life depends on it! Pure evil!

I'm not surprised, they've always been driven by hate since the days of Awolowo. It is because of such hate that is ingrained in them that has stopped them from evolving.

Take a look at any drone picture of the slums they call cities and see why evil doesn't pay.

Parachoco:
Shut up your mouth and stop disgracing yourself abeg

I won't be shock if you also claim Oguta/Osemoto in Anambra State is closer to the Ocean than Lekki Port

You can even make use of Google Map and cure yourself from this your ignorance

Ezi ohia, you think Lagos ports were built on the coast?

ysth:
and when you use figures of nautical miles, did you carry out the measurement yourself? How is a oseakwa in Anambra closer to the Atlantic than Ibaka which is bordered by the Atlantic?

Do you think Ibaka is on the coast?

FSBoperator:
Go back and read my post slowly.

You think as an independent Biafran state you can dictate to Nigeria who enters and leaves through their territory ?

Even if it is a one mile river route to the sea it will be subject to full Nigerian sovereignty .

Go school Una no gree.

Again, you've smuggled Biafra into a topic that has nothing to do with it. Where did I ever mention Biafra in all these? Why are you guys always morbidly afraid that Igbos will break away? Yet you continue to hate them everyday in Nigeria?

Let's even assume that Biafra becomes a reality, and you think Nigeria or any other country in the bight of Biafra will stop ships going to Biafra?

Damn, hate can make one become so irrational and unreasonable.