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legitnow1:
WAS GBAGYI INDIGENESHIP MENTIONED?


U HAVE BEEN SHOUTING INDIGENE, DEVIATING FROM CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION OF 37TH STATE EQUAL RIGHTS.


YET, U CANNOT SHOW ANY MENTION OF GBAGYI INDIGENE IN THE CONSTITUTION.


THIS IS MADNESS AND I WONT CONTINUE.

Do you think he knows what he's saying. They just dropped the same format for all of them on WhatsApp. Once you try to rationally dispute the nonsense they are saying , they will start to insult or throw tribal slurs

LibraKing:
It has been months since i added my opinion here.

On the PEPT Ruling.
They ruled that FCT has no special status and her citizens .in addition FCT is just like any other state . As the judge agreed to it and pass her judgment. Now the grey areas are here.

1. FCT will be right to demand governor and legislatures . If they want to enjoy the status of other states , this is justice . You can’t deny the citizen of FCT from the ambition of being a governor or legislature someday and still bite them to be like ordinary state.

Note: 25% votes attached to them is to show general acceptance by Nigerian as the seat of power is assume to make up of people from different corners of the country . And politicians like wike have little or no influence to rig or influence the election result of FCT since there is no governor to hold polling units to ransom .

2. If the constitution said 25% of 2/3 of 36 states and 25% in FCT as the requirement . When you divide the fraction , it expressively means : you need to have 25% acceptances in Atleast 24 states of 36 states and 25% in FCT .

Note: if you say 2/3 of 37 states , then the interpretation will fail , this is a clear sign that the constitution did not leave any grey area there.

3. For all of you saying Abuja has no indigenous people, are you saying during jamb and other forms you fill, people born in Abuja/indigenous people of Abuja can not fill in the state of their origin as FCT anymore . If FCT/Abuja has always been an option in any form which requires you to fill in state of Origin , is it not pure wickedness if you say no one’s origin is Abuja.

4. Do you not think Abuja indigenous people are marginalized if they can’t contribute to people who govern them or spend resources generating from their land. All FCT ministers are not even mandated to come from their region .

If this judgement stands in supremeCourt , then watch another drama unfolding in our political life.

Pardon my typo errors . Fix any grammar errors . Thanks

This stupid "casual observer" would not agree oh. According to him the indigenes are null and void. I have never seen a more stupid line of reasoning in my ife before

casualobserver:
You are daft!!….. the same daftness exhibited by your quest to win the presidency by splitting g your votes, the same daftness exhibited by thinking g a minority can win a national election by antagonizing and alienating the majority, the same daftness exhibited by thinking you can win a case in court on emotion without providing proof of your claim. The same daftness exhibited in thinking you can black
Ail people to do your will. The same daftness on show again here.

Hahahaha. I love your tears. Using a daft judgement to prop yourself. The level of self delusion exhibited by the Apc is simply monstrous.

That's how you blame the past administration without calling Buhari's name.
Anywhere belle face mob.
Talk from both sides of the mouth mob.

Only you says they came without proof, only you still rendered inconsequential the boxes of proof that was brought to court.
An actual human being ruled that Shettima did not "INTENTIONALLY NOMINATE HIMSELF" and you're here talking of daftness.
The daft ones are the stupid media team that continually forces bullshit down the throats of Nigerians in the name of politics.

Turn a whole drug case to civil forfeiture and you're here claiming the moral ground?
Oga miss me with that BS joor. Let's all keep pretending

Just watch the usual brainless mob try to drag the Saint into this.
No direction, just bigotry and insha allah

casualobserver:
This is posted not for your benefit but for the benefit of those who actually seek knowledge and would like to talk from a position of knowledge and not ignorance or emotion. Indigenes have no claim to the land or any say in the administration of the FCT. It is there in black and white. The only claims indigenes have is claims for compensation. This is the law, if they like they can go to court and embarrass themselves like Obingoos

1. Creation of Federal Capital Territory for Nigeria
[4th February, 1976]
(1) There is hereby established a capital territory in and for the Federal Republic of Nigeria to be designated as the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja (hereinafter referred to as the "Federal Capital Territory".
(2) The Federal Capital Territory shall consist of the area described in Part II of the First Schedule to this Act.
[First Schedule.]
(3) The area contained in the Capital Territory shall, as from the commencement of this Act, cease to be a portion of the States concerned and shall henceforth be governed and administered by or under the control of the Government of the Federation to the exclusion of any other person or authority whatsoever and the ownership of the lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall likewise vest absolutely in the Government of the Federation.


………………

6. Compensation payable
(1) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in any other enactment or by any srule of law, compensation payable in respect of any land comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall be assessed and computed in accordance with the provisions of this Act.
(2) In computing compensation payable under this Act, account shall be taken of any building or crops on the land acquired for the purpose of this Act, so however that any compensation payable shall be as respects‐
(a) land affected by this Act, for an amount equal to the total rent paid by the lessee over the period between the date of the execution of the lease and the date of its determination by the Authority together with interest at the bank rate between the last‐mentioned date and the date of payment of compensation;
(b) building on such land, for the amount of the actual cost of construction of the building (less any depreciation) together with interest at the bank rate over the period between the date of acquisition of such building and the date of payment of compensation;
(c) crops on such land, for an amount equal to the fair market value of such crops,
and the cost mentioned in the foregoing provisions of this subsection shall be such as may be determined by the Authority.
(3) Any person who claims any right or interest in any land comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall submit, in writing, particulars of his claims to the Executive Secretary on or before the expiration of twelve months from the date of commencement of the order made under section 2 of this Act or such longer period as the President may, either generally or in relation to any particular claim or claims, prescribe by notice published in the Federal Gazette.
(4) No claim for compensation shall be entertained by the Authority unless a written notice of the claim in accordance with subsection (3) of this section is served on the Authority within the period specified in the said subsection.



https://www.placng.org/lawsofnigeria/laws/F6.pdf

I triggered this one to quote a full epistle.
Now, to everyone here , notice how this was a law passed. This was never an agreement or a law that revoked the indigenes status but rather revoked their "right" to claim the land. They are very much still the indigenes of Abuja but under the law, the land belongs to the Government.
Note how the compensation is for Crops
If for any reason the Capital was to shift to any other state, the Indigenes would reclaim their land just like the Lagosians did.
Don't let this quack lawyer mix up the facts.
This is why you have the Ona of Abuja who has been pushing for Abuja to be a state since 2022 and something like a council of traditional chiefs.

Sometimes, read properly before you start embarrassing yourself. You quickly went to Google thinking you had pulled a fast one? Stupid brainless mob

Abrahamweb:
Baba, you stuuuuupid.
I'm in Abuja and the indigenous people are still in Abuja.
I don't know the facts you are depending on.

Do you think Apc Zombies know what they're doing. Lie, lie, lie that's all they do

Mombebe:
You trying so hard to sound intelligent and make it look as if my jab didn't get to you,see how intelligent you're exchanging this banter with the so-called figment of imagination.
It takes two to tango my idiotic friend.
You're by far the most unintelligent moniker I have engaged in this NL.

I agree. You hurt me. I'm crying right now. Happy? Like I said you have 21 posts on Nairaland..
ALL of them are tribal slurs or insults. There is no feasible reason why I should evem insult you. Your existence is enough insult to the brain that actually created you. Please keep on insulting me, I need the tears to clean my eyes

BentizilL:
As you wish Nigeria, may it be so for you and your family...

You call Hausa, Benin, ijaw and everyone that doesn't support your fraud Yoruba and fool, may it be unto your family your wish for Nigeria...

You wish Nigeria good, good be unto you.. You wish Nigeria bad, bad be unto you...

I hate nonsense..

You'll think you're dealing with a Nigerian not knowing that this is just one of the many accounts created after election. There is absolutely nothing to gain from these people except insults, gaslighting and the like.
Look at their profile first and their shenanigans get easier to manage

samsard:
Oga, please stop making uninformed comments on the internet with confidence. I have been in the FCT since I was a kid because my mom was a teacher teaching in the rural areas, FCT indigenes are still very much in the FCT.

Seee ehn, if you hear an Apc man talk you'd think they know what they are saying.
Even Satan dey fear d way these men dey lie

louken:
My brother did you read this post well before commenting

Do you think these one's are still alive. They live, breath and eat anything that can be linked to Peter Obi. That is their boogeyman

Mombebe:
Sh*t..just a little play with this pig,I got stains and dirty hands.
Someone should take this domestic pig back to his barn, he's out in the neighborhood trying to destroy people's goods .
Hello Pig, am I so coward like the man who impregnated your slutty old mother?

You were created on the 9th of Septmeber. If you like insult me from today till tomorrow, that's your own. A brain that has to resort to all these to insult another person is not worthy of my consideration.
There is absolutely no intellectual basis on which we can relate so I'll allow you to do what you know best. Insult. You can't beat an idiot at his own game

casualobserver:
That’s why you went to court and the judges tongue lashed your “never lost a case” SANS for embarrassing the legal profession.
Read the law you won’t. You will be arguing based on emotion. Then law is very clear….FCT. no longer belongs to the indigenes. You can argue they have not received their full compensation or relocation as per the law created ating the FCT but the land is no longer theirs.

Reading will not make you go blind and familiarization with the law may actually stop you making further asses of yourselves….if that is possible.

I can bet my two cents you have never read the Land Act. Just confidently stating nonsense.
Sometimes read, so you don't embarass yourself. Any lawyer on this thread would just laugh at your peak Tom foolery. In your mind you're schooling me but you keep on making a fool of yourself. I don't even need to do or say anything.

Aso rock is being rented to the Government. The question is who is the landlord?
Since there are no indigenes?
Very stupid set of defenders. See ehn, if this people could defend Buhari, there is absolutely nothing they will not twist.
So don't bother yourself, na insults dem sabi normally. Take with a pinch of salt and state your fact.

casualobserver:
Like I said go and read the land use act and the FCT act. You clearly haven’t because if you did and you had any shame or intelligence you will not have responded or responded in the manner you did.

The reason why you buffooons always lose cases in court is you argue from a point of view of sentiment not law.

Contrary to what your contemporaries tell you, research and reading does not kill.

I should be saying the same thing to you. You deliberately twist facts to suit your agenda and resort to tantrums when you are called out on it.

I doubt you have read the land act if not you won't be displaying your ignorance here. Oh well, that's the hallmark of Apc

Mombebe:
You're at most the most brainless and dirty entity alive,if you can't see pass your dumb and bias nose.
Interpret 2/3 majority of all the votes cast in the general election and 25% votes in the FCT as written in the Nigerian electoral act as amended.

Are you a human or a figment of someone's imagination?
Keep fooling yourself coward. When you are ready you will insult me with your real account

casualobserver:
You are daft! Go and read the FCT act of 1976. I doubt you will because clearly morons like you have a problem with reading.

Oga there is no where in the 1976 act that indigenes signed or moved away from their land. That's how you stupid brainless fools go around spreading misinformation

COMPAQ:
Abi o. Struggling to understand what it really means for the public.!!

It's actually audio. No institution in the world would allow a system that has the highest difference in currency prices to use them as scapegoats.

They specifically said to "store user details". They are not opening nada for your naira cards. Rather, if you have a virtual card or international card , Google pay can act as a secure wallet anytime you need to pay online.

ElSudani:
Then go to court and present yourself as an indigene of the FCT and get your own disgrace. There's no ambiguity in this. This is even more clear than the 25% percent requirement nonsense.

Why should I? That's why people are represented. There is already a case being instituted with the Supreme Court.
Lagos did not lose its indigenes but stupidness will not allow you to reason well

Validated:
If original indigene were relocated like you said, then were original indigenes of Lagos also related?

If Lagos could get a state status after original indigenes were relocated, why deny Abuja?

Or does that not confer on Abuja the special status?

See ehn, APC brainless mobs are the most hypocritical animals you can ever come across. Zero sense, zero rationality, just bigotry, religious sentiments and insults

samsard:
Relocated where? They're still in the FCT.

Don't mind these disingenuous fools. They don't even vet whatever they receive in their WhatsApp groups before they start their peak fooling

casualobserver:
Please feel free to use google and stop posting like the ignoramus you are. FCT indigenes signed an agreement under which they agreed to be relocated to neighboring states in return for compensation. Agreement is agreement.

Signed which stupid agreement. Keep on fooling yourself. The gbayi people are now what
Dangerous miscreants that thrive on spreading misinformation

ElSudani:
The original inhabitants were relocated to Niger and Nassarawa states. They were duly compensated and the federal government carved out the FCT from about three states.
So, in essence there are no Abuja indigenes anymore, or should I say indigenes of the FCT.

Keep deceiving yourself

1Dray:
You relocated to why? Go to Karu village, Bwari, Gwalalada, Kuje, etc and tell us where you relocated them to.

Very dull set of human beings. Zombie without brain.
Anything Baba at the top talk, these ones dey do Ctrl V , and Ctrl C sharp sharp.

Tomorrow make Apc get issue with this Fct case and tou go shock say the same entity that is claiming legal stalwart will turn 360 and tell you that 25% is sacrosanct.
That is why I don't take anything they say serious. If you like insult me from today till tomorrow, still does not change the fact that white is white and black is black.

JuanDeDios:
Who is an APC member? And who gives a damn about Buhari? CS has eluded you people. Go on reading into the Constitution what it doesn't say. In fact, go on and write a new constitution that if a candidate doesn't win Abuja or get a certain number of votes there, his opponent should be sworn in.

Keep deceiving yourself. The constitution is very clear. Infact before the elections , Ruth Kadaria boldly went on TV to state the same thing. They still considered Labour Party a mushroom party and were duly shocked.
In the history of Nigeria, never has the constitution being so openly bastardized but its alright as far as "na my person". 🤡🤡🤡🤡

casualobserver:
There is nothing like FCT indigene anymore, they can’t eat their cake and have it they were relocated and compensated in order that the FCT could be created. By law there is nothing like an FCT indigene, they’ve been bought out and settled long ago.

It is like traditional rulers claiming sovereignty. The British had overthrown them and they have lost their kingdoms, that they are still recognized for sentimental and cultural reasons does not mean they have any Kingdoms or can start claiming rights to kingdoms. There is no mention of traditional rulers in the constitution because they don’t exist in the eyes of federal law It is only states that recognize them again for cultural sentiment and administrative reasons. Same with FCT indigenes.

Relocated to where exactly. So you're cognizant with what a capital is yet you twist your mouth backwards when you want to defend your paymasters. Continue I your self deceiit

triple996:
Dont dodge the question and enter some else. We are talking about banditry in southern Kaduna. Not that girl that deliberately insulted another persons person's religious and want to go scout free

This comment should be framed. Anytime you want to engage this particular account, just understand that this is his thought process. It'll make it easier to look the other way when he throws his tantrums

JuanDeDios:
Which constitution? 25% of Abuja indeed. Next presidential candidates should focus on Abuja and ignore other states. When a group of people decide they can't read basic English and understand but will rather go a for LAUGHABLE interpretation that no court anywhere in the world will agree with, it's called mass hysteria.

Oga it is in your constitution. I don't expect much sha. The same set of people that swore Buhari was the best thing after sliced bread have all turned amnesiac. So there is absolutely nothing an Apc member will say that I will take seriously

PortHarcourtcit:
go and sit down my friend... You, pityobi and Ipob miscreants will still end up in shame... If you doubt me let's place a bet ... Failure equal to Ipob raised to power pityobi...

This is all the brainless mob knows how to do. Please keep engaging them rationally, they have nothing else to give. The narratives they wish to push requires than you get down dirty with them. The minute you don't, the veil becomes clearer to see. Stay woke folks

Wealthoptulent:
Its shows many lack intelligence on Abuja.
Its Federal capital Territory, the President is Federal so he more like their Prime minister or governor , a governor can't be with President there, that why they have Wicked Wike (FCT MINISTER)

2023 Election has made people jus to read Law h constitution & ended up not to know how to Interprete its literal meaning.

There is a reason why 25% is even an issue. It is written clearly in the constitution. But since that ship has sailed, then the shit that comes with the fan has to be smelt by everyone.

JuanDeDios:
So you believed Abuja people had two heads. Since the court said they didn't, the territory's status should be changed to Abuja State. Na wah for una.

Na constitution write am bros but since them don decide to interpret am the way dem like then sure, let's update our constitution to read 37 states. What is good for the goose is also good for the gander

That's the thing with lies. You'll need a lot more to cover just one.
You claim Abuja is the 37th state? Fine, then treat them like a state.
That's the beauty of law. There is no gray , only black or white.
You say this , then it implies this. No room for shenanigans

adecz:
Didn't he know what he was coming
to meet❓

He already made up his mind that Subsidy
should go, but was too dumb to
make plans on how to cushion it's effects.

It's always in Nigeria that somebody will
struggle with all his might to get to a
post and start complaining about the challenges.

While campaigning, they are only thinking
of the enjoyment and power that comes
with the position, but not the idea on how
to address challenges.

Same way Buhari struggled for almost 20years
to become president but spent 8 years
complaining about PDP and then achieved
nothing❗️❗️❗️😡😡😡😡

This election completely unravelled the political scene. Undercover hypocrites like Sega, Omojuwa, Reno and co can no longer hide to form activists because the choice was clear to any rational human being.
Tinubu fought so hard to enter the seat and he looks completely clueless there.
Making decisions and backtracking on them. Its almost as if baba does not have any plan to fix the country. The only thing he's really concerned about is occupying the space of Mr presido