@ElSudani



MOVING GOAL POST, WONT SAVE YOU ON CONSTITUTIONAL MATTER.



EVERYTHING IS IN BLACK AND WHITE.



ONCE NOT THERE, IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.



JUDGES DONT HAVE POWER TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION.


THEY ARE TO UPHOLD IT

legitnow1:




WHERE DID IT SAY GBAYI PEOPLE LOST THEIR INDIGENESHIP.


SHIW ME WHERR ITVIS EXPRESS,Y WRITTEN.

SHOW ME.

This is from the law which created Abuja:

(3) The area contained in the Capital Territory shall, as from the commencement of this Act, cease to be a portion of the States concerned and shall henceforth be governed and administered by or under the control of the Government of the Federation to the exclusion of any other person or authority whatsoever and the ownership of the lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall likewise vest absolutely in the Government of the Federation. 

Can you see the part which says " the lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall likewise vest absolutely in the Government of the Federation?

famology:


FCT has no special status regarding votes is different from what they're going to court to seek. Trust me, they'll be fined by the court after dismissing their frivolous case. The court is a serious place. It's not a comic ground.

Bro it has a special status. The justice clearly twisted the constitution. Read the caption below after that you read the article written by Joshua Ayanda. If you say Abuja shall be treated as a state then it implies everyone is entitled to the special status the national assembly, the office of the president and federal high court enjoy. So therefore a governor is needed with other arms of federal and state appointment for it to be a state

https://saharareporters.com/2023/03/03/twenty-five-percent-votes-fct-requirement-election-office-president-nigeria-or-not

casualobserver:


You are daft!!….. the same daftness exhibited by your quest to win the presidency by splitting g your votes, the same daftness exhibited by thinking g a minority can win a national election by antagonizing and alienating the majority, the same daftness exhibited by thinking you can win a case in court on emotion without providing proof of your claim. The same daftness exhibited in thinking you can black
Ail people to do your will. The same daftness on show again here.

Hahahaha. I love your tears. Using a daft judgement to prop yourself. The level of self delusion exhibited by the Apc is simply monstrous.

That's how you blame the past administration without calling Buhari's name.
Anywhere belle face mob.
Talk from both sides of the mouth mob.

Only you says they came without proof, only you still rendered inconsequential the boxes of proof that was brought to court.
An actual human being ruled that Shettima did not "INTENTIONALLY NOMINATE HIMSELF" and you're here talking of daftness.
The daft ones are the stupid media team that continually forces bullshit down the throats of Nigerians in the name of politics.

Turn a whole drug case to civil forfeiture and you're here claiming the moral ground?
Oga miss me with that BS joor. Let's all keep pretending

BreconHills:


Nothing will happen. It ends at the SC. No uprising could be more than the "Ali must go: student uprising ( go and Google it) At the end of the day what happened? Shouting is not the same thing as intentionally shedding ones blood to no effect.

DONT QUOTE ME AGAIN, I HATE IGNORANT PEOPLE.


ONLY IF YOUR FAMILY WILL BE AT THE RECIEVING END.

legitnow1:
@ElSudani



MOVING GOAL POST, WONT SAVE YOU ON CONSTITUTIONAL MATTER.



EVERYTHING IS IN BLACK AND WHITE.



ONCE NOT THERE, IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.



JUDGES DONT HAVE POWER TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION.


THEY ARE TO UPHOLD IT

Can you read at all?

References1:

https://thewhistler.ng/tribunal-judgement-abuja-indigenes-head-to-court-to-demand-governor-3-senators-reps-state-assembly/?fbclid=IwAR0vIRm_q8kDaM1wiLjvebW0ZyHGFjV7_ksNz3Asrtr6O6ZrP-Qupc0FpXw

I love this.

Grab your popcorn

ElSudani:


This is from the law which created Abuja:

(3) The area contained in the Capital Territory shall, as from the commencement of this Act, cease to be a portion of the States concerned and shall henceforth be governed and administered by or under the control of the Government of the Federation to the exclusion of any other person or authority whatsoever and the ownership of the lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall likewise vest absolutely in the Government of the Federation. 

Can you see the part which says " the lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall likewise vest absolutely in the Government of the Federation?

U SEF, DONT QUOTE ME AGAIN.


U NEED PSYCHIATRIC ATTENTION.


SHOW US WHERE IT SAY GBAGYI PEOPLE LOSE THEIR INDIGENESHIP?


I DONT HAVE ALL DAY TO WASTE HERE.

legitnow1:



U SEF, DONT QUOTE ME AGAIN.


U NEED PSYCHIATRIC ATTENTION.


SHOW US WHERE IT SAY GBAYI PEOPLE LOSE THEIR INDIGENESHIP?


I DONT HAVE ALL DAY TO WASTE HERR.

I am now sure you cannot understand what you read.
Gbayi or not you absolutely have no right to one inch of land in the FCT.

LibraKing:
It has been months since i added my opinion here.

On the PEPT Ruling.
They ruled that FCT has no special status and her citizens .in addition FCT is just like any other state . As the judge agreed to it and pass her judgment. Now the grey areas are here.

1. FCT will be right to demand governor and legislatures . If they want to enjoy the status of other states , this is justice . You can’t deny the citizen of FCT from the ambition of being a governor or legislature someday and still bite them to be like ordinary state.

Note: 25% votes attached to them is to show general acceptance by Nigerian as the seat of power is assume to make up of people from different corners of the country . And politicians like wike have little or no influence to rig or influence the election result of FCT since there is no governor to hold polling units to ransom .

2. If the constitution said 25% of 2/3 of 36 states and 25% in FCT as the requirement . When you divide the fraction , it expressively means : you need to have 25% acceptances in Atleast 24 states of 36 states and 25% in FCT .

Note: if you say 2/3 of 37 states , then the interpretation will fail , this is a clear sign that the constitution did not leave any grey area there.

3. For all of you saying Abuja has no indigenous people, are you saying during jamb and other forms you fill, people born in Abuja/indigenous people of Abuja can not fill in the state of their origin as FCT anymore . If FCT/Abuja has always been an option in any form which requires you to fill in state of Origin , is it not pure wickedness if you say no one’s origin is Abuja.

4. Do you not think Abuja indigenous people are marginalized if they can’t contribute to people who govern them or spend resources generating from their land. All FCT ministers are not even mandated to come from their region .

If this judgement stands in supremeCourt , then watch another drama unfolding in our political life.

Pardon my typo errors . Fix any grammar errors . Thanks

This stupid "casual observer" would not agree oh. According to him the indigenes are null and void. I have never seen a more stupid line of reasoning in my ife before

ElSudani:


I am now sure you cannot understand what you read.

WAS GBAGYI INDIGENESHIP MENTIONED?


U HAVE BEEN SHOUTING INDIGENE, DEVIATING FROM CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION OF 37TH STATE EQUAL RIGHTS.


YET, U CANNOT SHOW ANY MENTION OF GBAGYI INDIGENE IN THE CONSTITUTION.


THIS IS MADNESS AND I WONT CONTINUE.

legitnow1:


WAS GBAGYI INDIGENESHIP MENTIONED?


U HAVE BEEN SHOUTING INDIGENE, DEVIATING FROM CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION OF 37TH STATE EQUAL RIGHTS.


YET, U CANNOT SHOW ANY MENTION OF GBAGYI INDIGENE IN THE CONSTITUTION.


THIS IS MADNESS ANDI WONT CONTINUE.

No, the Act didn't have to single anyone out.

legitnow1:


WAS GBAGYI INDIGENESHIP MENTIONED?


U HAVE BEEN SHOUTING INDIGENE, DEVIATING FROM CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION OF 37TH STATE EQUAL RIGHTS.


YET, U CANNOT SHOW ANY MENTION OF GBAGYI INDIGENE IN THE CONSTITUTION.


THIS IS MADNESS AND I WONT CONTINUE.

Do you think he knows what he's saying. They just dropped the same format for all of them on WhatsApp. Once you try to rationally dispute the nonsense they are saying , they will start to insult or throw tribal slurs

wirinet:

You are introducing a red herring into the debate. Abuja indigenes are not demanding presidential candidates should focus on Abuja and ignore other states. What they are demanding is that the person holding the political office of their governor should have at least 25% of their votes, else there should be a run off. That way the governor (in the guise of the appointee of the president) will campaign for their votes and not ignore them in decision making.

That decision of the PEPC if upheld by the supreme court will have serious long term implications for Abuja and thus Nigeria as a whole.

Lol. Which implications? It is when the 25% of Abuja argument is upheld that we will have serious problems - endless elections until 25% emerges since the person getting 25% of Abuja may not win enough states elsewhere to be declared winner, creating stalemates and possibly a constitutional crisis – Buhari kuku carry on since the winner haven't won Abuja yet. How this 25% argument even makes sense to anyone beats me.

That decision WILL be upheld. Because it already stands, before now, that Abuja is to be TREATED AS A STATE IN MATTERS OF JUDICIAL INTERPRETATION. Every lawyer knows this – ask them. And that's only convenient and commonsensical. Not that the 25% argument even begins to make sense. Heck, Lagos State or even Delta State contributes far more to this country than Abuja. But Obi (who I rooted for in the election) and Atiku have money - let them waste it going to the Supreme Court.

As an aside, if you want to know how to win an election petition, I urge you to go study the case between Oshiomhole (AC) and Osunbor (PDP) (following the 2007 gubernatorial election in Edo State). Present your case the way Oshiomhole did, prove that you WON, and no court can deny you victory. Rely on technicalities (he forfeited money, he went to Chicago, he did not win 25% of Abuja, etc.) and run the risk of being laughed out of court.

Abrahamweb:

You cannot support APC and still utter reasonable comments.
You need 25% of 2/3 of the 36 states and 25% of the FCT.
So according to your logic,win 25% of FCT and rest? Abi wetin you mean abeg.

Programmer47:


Do you think he knows what he's saying. They just dropped the same format for all of them on WhatsApp. Once you try to rationally dispute the nonsense they are saying , they will start to insult or throw tribal slurs

IF ANYTHING, HE IS PRODUCING EVIDENCE TO DISPROVE PEPT JUDGM,ENT AS UNCONSTUTIOONAL.



SHOWING ABUJA IS NOT A STATE LIKE OTHERS OR THE 37TH STATE AS CLAIMED IN THAT JUDGEMENT.


THESE PEOPLE HAVE LOST IT UPSTAIRS.


WE ARE HAVE NOW ENTEERD THE RELMS OF INSANITY.

casualobserver:


This is posted not for your benefit but for the benefit of those who actually seek knowledge and would like to talk from a position of knowledge and not ignorance or emotion. Indigenes have no claim to the land or any say in the administration of the FCT. It is there in black and white. The only claims indigenes have is claims for compensation. This is the law, if they like they can go to court and embarrass themselves like Obingoos

1. Creation of Federal Capital Territory for Nigeria
[4th February, 1976]
(1) There is hereby established a capital territory in and for the Federal Republic of Nigeria to be designated as the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja (hereinafter referred to as the "Federal Capital Territory".
(2) The Federal Capital Territory shall consist of the area described in Part II of the First Schedule to this Act.
[First Schedule.]
(3) The area contained in the Capital Territory shall, as from the commencement of this Act, cease to be a portion of the States concerned and shall henceforth be governed and administered by or under the control of the Government of the Federation to the exclusion of any other person or authority whatsoever and the ownership of the lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall likewise vest absolutely in the Government of the Federation.


………………

6. Compensation payable
(1) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in any other enactment or by any srule of law, compensation payable in respect of any land comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall be assessed and computed in accordance with the provisions of this Act.
(2) In computing compensation payable under this Act, account shall be taken of any building or crops on the land acquired for the purpose of this Act, so however that any compensation payable shall be as respects‐
(a) land affected by this Act, for an amount equal to the total rent paid by the lessee over the period between the date of the execution of the lease and the date of its determination by the Authority together with interest at the bank rate between the last‐mentioned date and the date of payment of compensation;
(b) building on such land, for the amount of the actual cost of construction of the building (less any depreciation) together with interest at the bank rate over the period between the date of acquisition of such building and the date of payment of compensation;
(c) crops on such land, for an amount equal to the fair market value of such crops,
and the cost mentioned in the foregoing provisions of this subsection shall be such as may be determined by the Authority.
(3) Any person who claims any right or interest in any land comprised in the Federal Capital Territory shall submit, in writing, particulars of his claims to the Executive Secretary on or before the expiration of twelve months from the date of commencement of the order made under section 2 of this Act or such longer period as the President may, either generally or in relation to any particular claim or claims, prescribe by notice published in the Federal Gazette.
(4) No claim for compensation shall be entertained by the Authority unless a written notice of the claim in accordance with subsection (3) of this section is served on the Authority within the period specified in the said subsection.



https://www.placng.org/lawsofnigeria/laws/F6.pdf

It is amazing how uninformed some people are about their own country. We need better education in this country.

ElSudani:
The original inhabitants of the FCT were relocated. So, who are these indigenes?

Relocated to which State?

Ferdinandu:
Relocated to which State?

Like some people would say; Google it.

Just because some people want to prove a point. That's fine. If their wish would be granted, but it may be difficult for them to ever be direct recipients of the benefits since they have been outnumbered there by other residents from other parts of Nigeria.

Those pushing them to it will also lose out because the real beneficiaries will be the beneficiaries of north vs south politics. There will be a constitutional crisis which I believe may give those clamouring for true federalism an anticipated change, which may benefit us all.

ElSudani:
The original inhabitants of the FCT were relocated. So, who are these indigenes?

SO, IT IS NOT A STATE LIKE OTHEE STATES OF THE FEDERATION THEN?



U SEE HOW U SHOOT YOURSELF ON THE FOOT?



THROWING OUT PEPT JUDGEMENT AS A RAPE OF NIGERIA CONSTUTUTION.

legitnow1:



IF ANYTHING, HE IS PRODUCING EVIDENCE TO DISPROVE PEPT JUDGM,ENT AS UNCONSTUTIOONAL.



SHOWING ABUJA IS NOT A STATE LIKE OTHERS.


THESE PEOPLE HAVE LOST IT UPSTAIRS.

The thing is most of them are fake accounts. The real accounts come out once in a while to support their pseudo identities. Their job is to give legitimacy to Tinubu and his government but it is just not working.

The constitution is very clear.
25% in 36 states and 25% in the FCT.
There is a very definite reason why it was mentioned. They didn't know how to twist it so they just barrelled through it forgetting that some judgements have consequences.

In the history of Nigeria, never has it been a dispute but trust those whose mentality is "snatch and grab it" to support anything.

Can you believe that up till now there is no definite collation of how Tinubu won the election?
Up ti today Inec has refused to upload the "purpoted results".
The ones on the server are mutilated or blank sheets and some idiot will come here shouting constitution. Its Its shame really the depths we have sunk to

pacesetting:
So, you now agree that the president is the prime minister of Abuja. A president that can't secure only 25% in a place he is supposed to be Prime Minister?

Lolz. Don't mind them! The more they want to cover their injustice, the more they shoot themselves on the foot.. From his point, A prime minister of FCT that secured 10 votes in FCT should be sworn in as a winner. #madness

LIKE A THIEF, WHICH EVER WAY YOU GO, EVIDENCE IS LEFT BEHIND TO KNOW, U PASS HERE.

legitnow1:


WAS GBAGYI INDIGENESHIP MENTIONED?


U HAVE BEEN SHOUTING INDIGENE, DEVIATING FROM CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION OF 37TH STATE EQUAL RIGHTS.


YET, U CANNOT SHOW ANY MENTION OF GBAGYI INDIGENE IN THE CONSTITUTION.


THIS IS MADNESS AND I WONT CONTINUE.

The Act didn't have to mention any specific tribe. Jesus !

ElSudani:


The Act didn't have to mention any specific tribe. Jesus !

U SAY NO INDIGENE, SO NOT A STATE.



U SAY A STATE, SO WHERE IS THEIR GOVERNOR AND NASS MEMBERS AND STATE ASSEMBLY.



ANYWHERE BELLE FACE, NO WHERE TO RUN.




CAUGHT!

If they dont have 2 heads, shouldnt they use that same one head to have a governor and 3 senators like others?

Ezewuzie01:
Sounds like propaganda until the case is actually instituted. FCT residents don't have two heads to be hold veto power over other citizens of Nigeria. Their case will be thrown out. All the justices of the appeal and supreme courts are indigenes of certain states and you can take it to the bank that none of them will ever accept the wrong interpretation that voters in their own states are inferior to FCT residents.

Another 20m fine loading. Nigeria has been overrun by illiterates

HRHKingOliver:
Lolz. Don't mind them! The more they want to cover their injustice, the more they shoot themselves on the foot.. From his point, A prime minister of FCT that secured 10 votes in FCT should be sworn in as a winner. #madness

WISE WORDS!

ElSudani:
The original inhabitants of the FCT were relocated. So, who are these indigenes?

Are u sure u live and work in Abuja.

Ezewuzie01:
Sounds like propaganda until the case is actually instituted. FCT residents don't have two heads to be hold veto power over other citizens of Nigeria. Their case will be thrown out. All the justices of the appeal and supreme courts are indigenes of certain states and you can take it to the bank that none of them will ever accept the wrong interpretation that voters in their own states are inferior to FCT residents.

Are you okay ?

You guys would be the first to call people "too emotional" while you're the root of being emotional and using emotions on things. To start saying they'll take because of their people to execute judgement...... So no longer the constitution / the said judgement but instead cos they are from a certain place and would judge based on that ?

Dafresh:

Here you're the main goat, goat is even better than you. you're a pig

That guy is deranged