Golan007:


There's nothing like that.

Can't eat your cake and have it.

Either times are hard or you are progressing.

If you are progressing then it means government's policy is paying off.

Quick question:
What is this policy that seems to positively-affect only people from the SE?

manuelreports:

Kaduna and Enugu are almost mate, the issue is how can Enugu be poorer than Osun State.

The thing tire me ooo,go to Enugu the least a family can give to their children is Secondary school after which, its either the child either choose to learn trade/Apprenticeship or go to higher institution which normally reflect in their Jamb/NYSC Presence's data....what are they saying sef, even an average family in remote village has palm trees that can sustain them above average.

Okoroawusa:

Hahahahaha!

You don dey find trouble abi?

And 99% of lagos land

horsepower102:


So basically you agree that the list is making false claims right?

The list doesn't reflect the fact on ground... I lived in Nsukka,UNN to be precise for almost a decade,Enugu is not poor as purported,the recent trend for young guys there is Asian countries and this guys are not doing bad for themselves. Enugu is on low key balling hard!

Juliusmalema:



Which entire SE?

Start with your state and leave SE.

Dont be stupid. Do you see Yoruba folks on NL discriminating between states?

ProT:


Quick question:
What is this policy that seems to positively-affect only people from the SE?

The same ones that makes S.Easterners claim they have started to build mansions since 2015.

Give it up.

You cannot change the narrative.

Either the government has failed or it has improved your condition.

manuelreports:
Now let me tell you, for over five years now or above there has been a massive investment drive into South East. Go to Agu Awka and see what is going on there, go to New Market side in Enugu, go to Owerri, go to Abakaliki. Had it been I don't frequent these areas I would have not doubted your story .

As for that stats by NBS, even a primary school drop out knows it is a caricature of statistics as a profession. I didn't even mention classic houses springing up in different Villages inIgbo Land.


All the same
Let us see this NBS Stats as a blessing in disguise and let us work in unison to eradicate poverty entirely from Igbo Land

I will contribute my own quota towards this campiagn by trying to see how to bring down a vibrant Tech Eco system down to South East.

Our people must be discouraged from seeing Lagos as first point of call for survival. We can create our own desirable cities and Market that will be patronised by the huge west African regional market.

Aku rue uno policy and campaign has just been validated

hello your words are encouraging to us Igbo youths that also want the best for our region.
we have an assembled group that's all about supporting startups; we are creating a platform where innovators & entrepreneurs meet and both satisfying each others interest. and on the process of registering ourselves as a cooperative. but we need financial aid o run the cost of our platform and to help encourage startups (especially in the south east) so am soliciting for your support and you can invest in our enterprise.
thanks for your consideration

Osaze007:


Looool

this place is heaven to some places in the city of Lagos e.g. Ikotun, igamdu, mumchi, ojo, amuwo these are areas I know in and out in Lagos.

Golan007:


The dame ones that makes S.Easterners claim they have started to build mansions since 2015.

Give it up.

You cannot change the narrative.

Either the government has failed or it has improved your condition.

I asked for SPECIFIC POLICY, but u seem more interested in ad nauseam.

I'm done with you!

KC031:


The list doesn't reflect the fact on ground... I lived in Nsukka,UNN to be precise for almost a decade,Enugu is not poor as purported,the recent trend for young guys there is Asian countries and this guys are not doing bad for themselves. Enugu is on low key balling hard!

Thank you I have added you to the growing list of eyewitnesses who have verified that this list is fraudulent and bogus. .

Inteltower:


hello your words are encouraging to us Igbo youths that also want the best for our region.
we have an assembled group that's all about supporting startups; we are creating a platform where innovators & entrepreneurs meet and both satisfying each others interest. and on the process of registering ourselves as a cooperative. but we need financial aid o run the cost of our platform and to help encourage startups (especially in the south east) so am soliciting for your support and you can invest in our enterprise.
thanks for your consideration

Do you have a website where I can read up on your plans and what you are really about.

ProT:


I asked for SPECIFIC POLICY, but u seem more interested in ad nauseam.

I'm done with you!

I'm done with you too.

Cant eat your cake and have it.

princdebola201:
this is 2020 alot have happened within 4yrs.

How many residential Estates do u have in the whole of south east region ?
The fact is 80% of houses in south east region re private residence . And majority of the private residence re owned by igbos doing business outside south east region .
All these redudant buildings have little or no economic values to the state.
I saw the mansion e-money built in anambra and i just shake my head because him and his family spend more than 300 days a year in lagos and outside the country. The mansion is redundant and wast of space in a very tiny region like south east region.

if we could only turn our lands to industries and companies and making residence on other States. just thinking though

horsepower102:


Do you have a website where I can read up on your plans and what you are really about.

we have started this platform on whatsapp . and have 100+ members including foreigners (like Indians and Cameroonians)
we aren't registered yet but in the process and due to this we couldn't yet build up a website because once registered as a cooperative all necessary content detail will be uploaded at the site. so we couldn't have an empty site.

so rather let's chat up on whatsapp we can share more details for you and send you a document containing all you need to know, including meeting the team

Inteltower:


if we could only turn our lands to industries and companies and making residence on other States. just thinking though

Ya, buildings are not important; when we build industries all over the place, those that would work in those industries would sleep under the bridge or in bushes.

Amazing!

Maduawuchukwu:


Dont be stupid. Do you see Yoruba folks on NL discriminating between states?

Stop opening stupid threads.

Theevilone:
this place is heaven to some places in the city of Lagos e.g. Ikotun, igamdu, mumchi, ojo, amuwo these are areas I know in and out in Lagos.

Yorubas operate with facts not iPob propaganda
Onitsha and abia are the dirtiest cities on earth

horsepower102:


Do you have a website where I can read up on your plans and what you are really about.

Whatsapp number: 08136156015.

Inteltower:


we have started this platform on whatsapp . and have 100+ members including f[b]oreigners (like Indians and Cameroonians)[/b]
we aren't registered yet but in the process and due to this we couldn't yet build up a website because once registered as a cooperative all necessary content detail will be uploaded at the site. so we couldn't have an empty site.

so rather let's chat up on whatsapp we can share more details for you and send you a document containing all you need to know, including meeting the team

Sorry I will pass for now because of transparency and financial reasons. Maybe after you get going, i will reconsider. I wish you all the best in your endeavors.

ProT:

Ya, buildings are not important; when we build industries all over the place, those that would work in those industries would sleep under the bridge or in bushes.

Amazing!

lol.there are employee residence that can built joor

pazienza:


The type of stuff they type from their brown roof apartment built from mud in Oshogbo.
What reality? Scarcity of land is not why there are brown roof and old dilapidated buildings all over Yoruba cities, it's poverty and lack of money for renovation work.
All over Igboland, old ground floor buildings are continously being torn down and replaced with modern storey buildings. Because there is capital and capacity to do that.
You don't just acquire money to build and afford four storey buildings because there is scarcity of land, you have to to have the money to embark on it first and foremost to be able to afford it.

Take your humility sermon to your fellow Yorubas.
We were here when we were all told how Osun GDP was bigger than that of the whole SE combined and we saw how it ended.
This stat is not reality, it's an insult to our sensibility, a distortion and falsehood, it's only rational that we rejected it. This is not 1960s when your Lagos Ibadan express way media have monopoly to packaging and propagating falsehoods as facts.

Thank God I have stayed in all the states of the SE and SW, the people's mindsets are different. While the SE appreciates capitalism, the SW loves socialism. While there are lots of very rich people of eastern origin due to trading, there are also many many more poor people, the SW boasts of lots and lots of middle class people. There are differences between, for instance, teachers or okada man in SE and those in SW. all of them can afford food and other stuff but those from the SW can easily build houses and live modestly in their 3/4 bedroom bungalows, it's difficult for those in the SE to do; to even get land in reasonable towns, one needs millions not to talk of buildings.

The governments in the SW are always learning towards socialism. they tend to provide good roads to link various towns. In Osun or Ekiti, virtually all communities have tap water and reservoirs by the government. you also find banks in most of the towns. Each family also has large land and cash crops, it's difficult for anyone not to get at least food, except if he is a stranger. These people may not be rich but majority are comfortable. The people leave so much to the government, which is not good enough...

The governments in the SE tend to favour the rich and capitalism. Just look at Owerri and Enugu; in Enugu, there is no provisions for middle class estates and supports, people are being pushed to crowd suburbs like abakpa, obiagu, Garki, etc even schools' lands in new layout and other places are being allocated to the rich and you find people, staying so far away in Awgu, Ezeagu, 9th mile, etc to come to the metropolitan. After Enugu, Agbani and Nsukka, you hardly find banks. a lot of people are actually struggling just like other places in Nigeria. The super rich of everyone' status some of you are sharing is not just real... The government leaves so much to the people without wanting to take responsibility for the poor.

The middle class is growing in the SW while is either you are rich or poor in the SE, the Middle class is shrinking. In all, the states' in both regions should be held responsible.

horsepower102:


Sorry I will pass for now because of transparency and financial reasons. Maybe after you get going, i will reconsider. I wish you all the best in your endeavors.

ok Sir. I understand. but can I have your contact. to inform you when we get things going ?

Statistics collected in one person's parlor.

lx3as:


Thank God I have stayed in all the states of the SE and SW, the people's mindsets are different. While the SE appreciates capitalism, the SW loves socialism. While there are lots of very rich people of eastern origin due to trading, there are also many many more poor people, the SW boasts of lots and lots of middle class people. There are differences between, for instance, teachers or okada man in SE and those in SW. all of them can afford food and other stuff but those from the SW can easily build houses and live modestly in their 3/4 bedroom bungalows, it's difficult for those in the SE to do; to even get land in reasonable towns, one needs millions not to talk of buildings.

The governments in the SW are always learning towards socialism. they tend to provide good roads to link various towns. In Osun or Ekiti, virtually all communities has tap water and reservoirs by the government. you also find banks in most of the towns. Each family also has large land and cash crops, it's difficult for anyone not to get at least food, except if he is a stranger. These people may not be rich but they are comfortable.

Will continue with SE later...

so in this covid pandemic.. who were those in need of palliatives the most ?

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superlightning:
According to the recently released figures from National Bureau of Statistics, Anambra is the only state in the southeast with her poverty index within the 0-20% bracket. It has the least poverty index in the southeast.

Imo and Abia follows in the poverty index ranging within 21-40% bracket.

Enugu State surprisingly crashed and is above the 40% poverty index. Theirs is even inching towards 60%!

Ebonyi State Poverty remains the highest and one of the highest in Nigeria with an index inching towards 80%. This is disturbing.

Generally, our geo-political zone ranks third out of the six zones, tailing after South west and South south geopolitical zone.

Please, I plead with igbos all over the country to THINK HOME. Stop aiding in the development Lagos, Kaduna, Kano, etc and start aiding the development of the SOUTH EASTERN STATES. Fine, make your money there but THINK HOME BIKO.

OAM4J, Mynd44....over to you sirs

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lx3as:


Thank God I have stayed in all the states of the SE and SW, the people's mindsets are different. While the SE appreciates capitalism, the SW loves socialism. While there are lots of very rich people of eastern origin due to trading, there are also many many more poor people, the SW boasts of lots and lots of middle class people. There are differences between, for instance, teachers or okada man in SE and those in SW. all of them can afford food and other stuff but those from the SW can easily build houses and live modestly in their 3/4 bedroom bungalows, it's difficult for those in the SE to do; to even get land in reasonable towns, one needs millions not to talk of buildings.

The governments in the SW are always learning towards socialism. they tend to provide good roads to link various towns. In Osun or Ekiti, virtually all communities have tap water and reservoirs by the government. you also find banks in most of the towns. Each family also has large land and cash crops, it's difficult for anyone not to get at least food, except if he is a stranger. These people may not be rich but they majority are comfortable.

Will continue with SE later...

Mr man, hold it right there!

You are not the only one who has been to SE and SW. I served in SW rural area for full year and travelled around SW that same year through rural areas because of the nature of my job.

No Okada man in SW can afford to build a house. Stop talking trash. Unless you meant mud houses. Do you know that Yorubas are still building mud houses in this modern era, they modernized it by first moulding the mud into small blocks and allowing the sun to dry it, then they use cement plaster to hold them all together like one do when building with blocks. When they are done, they would plaster it with cement and paint it, you wouldn't know it's mud house until the plaster cracks and you see the reddish mud inside. I was marvelled. That's the level of poverty in the area.
Back to Okada man. A normal Okada man in SW is overtaxed. He hardly makes enough to take home. Yorubas are very heavy on taxation. An Okada man in east pays less tax and takes more home to his family. He on the average have better net income than a Yoruba okada man. He might not be able to build a house, since he doesn't have the option of using mud as block, he can rent decent house and pay his children school fees while his wife hustle for money for family feeding through petty trading and side farming.

Now let me tell you, the idea that there are no lands in SE is nothing but SW propaganda, even in overpopulated Lagos, there are still few empty lands for petty farming.
I was from a humble background,we lived in Enugu but we never bought Garri for a single day while growing up.
There are many empty lands around Akwuke, Akegbe, Ozalla, Nike, Eke, even One day area ( though One day is now fully built up) etc surrounding Enugu metropolis, low income families like mine often leased those lands and farmed on subsistence basis. Between this and our other incomes, we were living big and all went to University.
This is how it is in Igboland. You don't know Igboland more than Ndiigbo, so if you don't have any positive thing to contribute to this thread, keep your peace.

superlightning:


Just yesterday, DELTA STATE GOVERNOR proudly declared his state's progress, outshining states like Ogun, Rivers, Kaduna, Anambra etc.

This is because Delta State ranks SECOND in the poverty index

In the all of South South, Delta is more cursed with bad leaders than any other South South states. Their Love for Billboards are amazing. you'll count more than 50 Billboard of Okowa, from Effrun round about to Ugbangue Junction, a mere 20 mins drive

Putinofrussia:


It is rising because everybody is running to the rich SW.Igbo are in millions in Yorubaland even begging for alms from their Yoruba rich hosts.

Igboland is becoming a desert but your brothers are busy comparing tiny Onitsha which does not have university, research centre,stadia to Ibadan that is more developed than the entire Igboland.

Your comment shows you've not left SW.

I'm from Edo and I've lived in Edo, Delta, Ekiti, Ondo and Lagos.

Igbos have big business in Lagos, Igbos own most lands in Ado ekiti commercial areas ( bank road) and igbos are noy begging in Ondo, they have successful business.

pazienza:


Mr man, hold it right there!

You are not the only one who has been to SE and SW. I served in SW rural area for full year and travelled around SW that same year through rural areas because of the nature of my job.

No Okada man in SW can afford to build a house. Stop talking trash. Unless you meant mud houses. Do you know that Yorubas are still building mud houses in this modern era, they modernized it by first moulding the mud into small blocks and allowing the sun to dry it, then they use cement plaster to hold them all together like one do when building with blocks. When they are done, they would plaster it with cement and paint it, you wouldn't know it's mud house until the plaster cracks and you see the reddish mud inside. I was marvelled. That's the level of poverty in the area.
Back to Okada man. A normal Okada man in SW is overtaxed. He hardly makes enough to take home. Yorubas are very heavy on taxation. An Okada man in east pays less tax and takes more home to his family. He on the average have better net income than a Yoruba okada man. He might not be able to build a house, since he doesn't have the option of using mud as block, he can rent decent house and pay his children school fees while his wife hustle for money for family feeding through petty trading and side farming.

Now let me tell you, the idea that there are no lands in SE is nothing but SW propaganda, even in overpopulated Lagos, there are still few empty lands for petty farming.
I was from a humble background,we lived in Enugu but we never bought Garri for a single day while growing up.
There are many empty lands around Akwuke, Akegbe, Ozalla, Nike, Eke, even One day area ( though One day is now fully built up) etc surrounding Enugu metropolis, low income families like mine often leased those lands and farmed on subsistence basis. Between this and our other incomes, we were living big and all went to University.
This is how it is in Igboland. You don't know Igboland more than Ndiigbo, so if you don't have any positive thing to contribute to this thread, keep your peace.

Mr man, I can't safe you from your emotions and egoism..... Ok, every igboman is either billionaire or millionaire, I think you're all right now. I can't be sharing here how some people are struggling...

ificatchmodeh:


NBS ... Nigeria is a funny country. They government knows the truth about Nigeria, but won’t say.. rather the will twist it to sustain propaganda

2012 Okonjo went to senate and make a special case on opening southeast for robust economic development and their generating federal revenue.

Agenda against the development of south east and by extension south south..is an arrangement to weak this regions and growth.. level.

South south produces 89% of Nigeria revenue.. how many cities in south south is developed with enough federal presence? And active federal parastatals.
How many of the south south natives occupy offices in those federal establishments in the state..
From delta to riVers, akwaibom. Bayelsa.. cross rivers?
They will be smart to tell us to hold our governors accountable.. with the huge allocation hey collect

But they’re busy with Lagos — Kano railway
They’re busy upgrading MMA,Kano,Jigawa,Maiduguri, airports .. down south they will tell you RiVers airport is an international airport and functioning
Is riVers the only state in Nigeria deltA?

What’s holding the same Federal government to establish a world class sea port in the Nigeria DeltA region
But will conveniently build two and sustained in Lagos

They will tell you that the hostility in niger deltA chased out company headquarters to Lagos
Meanwhile southwest is rated a hostile region

I’m using my area as example.. for you to understand what igbos are in for..

If an international body should conduct same samples .. results will be different.. and correct, but that changes nothing in Nigeria index.. they will always dish same or modify version propaganda anytime they do dish theirs.

For me.. I’ve traveled around this country and seen things for my self.. likewise many like me.

Any statistics from Nigeria don’t mean anything to us, even to the international community. The leave among us and understand our politics. Is just to massage ego. Nothing meaningful.

Since those statistics of high gdp.. poverty index, poor states rich states.

What’s has changed.. in those regions?

Bro understand this country and laugh at whatever the dishes..
International community treat Nigerians, how our leaders treat us..

when jonathan was a president what did he do for his people,now you want a northerner to help them.funny

HornyTave:


Your comment shows you've not left SW.

I'm from Edo and I've lived in Edo, Delta, Ekiti, Ondo and Lagos.

Igbos have big business in Lagos, Igbos own most lands in Ado ekiti commercial areas ( bank road) and igbos are noy begging in Ondo, they have successful business.

Igbos owns all the land in Ado Ekiti.