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actually VOR, you might be correct in your assumption. Many of those who frequent the romance section are single & in search.

If I had children I'd definitely take one for them.

what team jersey is that? If only I can find a store here to buy soccer jerseys. It is very scarce around here.

why must the man be held financially accountable for the entire family? What's wrong with having a stay-at-home dad who takes care of the kids while mom is out there working hard.

maybe there should be a thread that reads "what's the value of an unemployed man"

'cause i would really love to hear your opinions on that.

courtesy: wesleyana

women, must the 'man' be held financially responsible to provide for the entire family?
Can the ladies see themselves settling down with a financially unstable man.

no she didn't "just happen to be a woman."
if this was the case, women wouldn't be a minority in govt.

The first question to ask would be WHY do you think women are a minority in government? Is this due to gender inequality or merely a result of traditional gender roles?

you took the words right out of my mouth(text out of my typing fingers)
The argument can be made that most women aren't as interested in politics/ running for office as men are.  This does not mean women are being plotted against.

if hillary didn't believe in political equality of males and females, i don't think she would pursue a political career.

Thank God for your statement being an opinion(you said you don't think), otherwise it would be fallacious.
Perhaps gender equity doesn't dominate her mind as it does yours? Perhaps she sees it as just another 'senator' running for office, she just happens to be a woman, and feminists feel the need to capitalize on this huuge, eye-popping, never before seen, shocker. (yeah right)

Many feminists who thought she was on their camp, were disappointed and angry at her when she did not employ their weapon of choice after Bill Clinton's philandering was exposed - divorce.

you posed a good question ann
ask your fellows for the answer.

smartass? ad-hominems are not cool dear.

RichyBlack already shed some light by the way(read the following emphasis once again on bolded text)

The first female president (potentially) of the United States, Hilary Rodham Clinton, is not a feminist. Many feminists who thought she was on their camp, were disappointed and angry at her when she did not employ their weapon of choice after Bill Clinton's philandering was exposed - divorce.

you love women as subordinates. this isn't the first male/ female argument we've been involved in.

anyways, Hillary is def. a feminist in my dictionary.

A whole Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, what does she know about herself, she must abide by wesley's "feminism 101"

how would you know?
let david speak for himself. i know you guys are in a brotherhood but please.

Wesley, it's not about being in a said brotherhood.
I offered you an analysis of what you might be implying by saying misogynist wannabe, it rests on your shoulders to disprove/nullify that analysis.

@david,
i called you a misogynist wannabe.

what difference. no need for the sugar-coating. the misogynist part is what you wanted to pass across.
a want to be woman hater.
a woman hater want to be.

I wouldn't mind some clarification.

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1. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.

how exactly does this affect my support for women rights? as opposed to gender equality?
remember, I'm not a feminist. I still see nothing wrong in saying I support non-discriminatory economic treatment of the sexes.

wesleyan - an anti-feminist that supports women rights, what's new in that?
I don't commend women carrying signs, going around raging for freedom from opression, 50-50, male bashing, etc, but I respect their rights to be treated fairly, I hope this isn't too hard for you to understand.

@topic

pedicure, or manicure?

yes, brother jerseys.
are you thinking of buying any jerseys in the near future?

what you just stated is one of the major misconception about feminism.
a lot of people assume feminists to be some heavy set women screaming up and down the street and terrorizing the males.

If a lot of people are doing this, there must be something wrong. Maybe they are.

anybody who believes in equality of the sexes is a feminist. at least that's my definition.

I do not agree with your definition.
I agree with the idea of giving/granting women equal opportunities(although it'd be hard to reach this), I don't know about equality of the sexes, a man is not a woman.

can you point to me anywhere on this thread where i've engaged in "male bashing" ?

oh I'll be glad to refresh your memory.
You said something about I-man, davidylan, RichyBlack, & proverbial being misogynists aka women haters. How quickly you forget.

i just have my ideals.
I'm a liberal and support women rights. it helps that I'm a female myself.
i'm not anti-male or anything.

You're streaming down that bolded part at the moment, try to refrain from extremities, I mean I hope you don't get sucked in-too-deep, or get carried away.
What do you know, I support women rights myself. cheers.

what do you mean by "cultural nigerian man"? you mean Fresh of the Boat from Nigeria?

I'm not refering to a FOB, although I see nothing wrong with such person(s).

yeah i know it's part of nigerian culture.  this sit at home and cook for your head of the family husband. but that won't be happening when I get married.

That's good to know, I most certainly won't be marrying your likes.  Not that I'm expecting my wife to sit at home.

yeah my mom cooks most of the time

lolol, can you repeat this to yourself and let it sink in honey?

'cause my dad works long hours and it won't be fair for him to come home from work and start cooking. plus they're not liberal anyways.

excuses. but hey, mom cooks most of the time. cheers, kudos to your family for keeping it real.

but even if my mom refuse to cook doesn't mean she has no value.

i can reason with you here.  a woman who refuses to cook isn't worthless, that's very harsh.

he didn't marry her because of food/ cooking.

no he didn't. but there are conventions to be followed(my opinion), women at least where I'm from, are expected/supposed to cook for the family.

Do you love anyone more than(or as much as) you love yourself?
If yes, would you take a bullet for this person(if necessary)?
If no, why not?

I suppose I should start: ermm I am still thinking

I'd like to know which jerseys you lots think are admirable to have in one's collection/posession.
Doesn't matter which sport(whether it be basketball, football, soccer, baseball, hockey, etc).
If you have pictures of your collection of jerseys, you can post them here(if you don't mind). Once my camera is returned I'll post some of mine.
I'm trying to stock up on more jerseys this summer.

it's a stupid question because there's no certain age for becoming a feminist.

Practical feminism at such a tender age can be detrimental to your health, it is very stressful. Now honey, i'm only looking out for your best interest.
I dare you try it at large, especially at your school(assuming you're in a reputable college)

people form their opinions and ideals from whatever age they gain the capacity to/ are smart enough to.

Of course, I don't disagree with you. If you don't mind, state some reasons why you're a proud feminist.
Refrain from the male bashing argument of superiority/opression. yes society advances, I'm sure you have seen drastic changes in the way women are being treated now.

some people are feminists because they grew up around feminists and some people become feminists because they feel that's what benefits then, others are feminists for other reasons.

but there definitely isn't a rule that says you have to be (insert age here) to have your opinions about things.

at least they have their reasons,
what are yours?
Have you been wronged so badly by men that you feel the government, or men, must serve some penalties.

I have my priorities and know what is right for me.
my nails are done, i just returned some books to the library, i'll call some friends later on in the afternoon.
thanks for acknowledging that this is a disgusting topic.

don't flatter yourself. it might be disgusting to you, considering your marital status & age, in due time(if you decide to get married, especially to a cultural Nigerian man) you'll understand what people like Creamish have been whispering.

It's inconsiderate

thanks for acknowleding my correctness, I thought as much

according to my parents. no work, no food. that's the rule at my house.

I can pick at that rule, but why bother since you didn't expantiate?
Must a 5-year-old for example work? before being fed?
oops I'm sorry, age is but a number.

yeah. he does. even my dad knows how to cook.
But i'm the best cook in my house (not bragging). lol

I wonder what your mom has to say about this.
Just wondering, how often does Dad get in the kitchen to cook for the family,
oops, what was I thinking, according to you it is wrong.
the rule in your family is "nobody is anybody's slave" (meaning get your buttocks in the kitchen and cook your own expletive dish).
what dishes are you skilled at cooking by the way(I mean what & what are in your repertoire).

definitely a bad idea for a feminist to marry an anti-feminist. unless one or the other changes his/her position.

very unlikely. that's too bad, I was starting to like you(sarcasm on).

on a more serious note, whether or not you & others agree.
Men undeniably appreciate women who cook them meals/food to eat. These men might not say thank you, but I will have you know that they are very thankful.
Marriages can be put to shame by women who refuse to cook, or play the feminism card.
I shouldn't dare begin to list some of the things my mom does for my dad. Feminists would parade this thread and call for his extermination.

I think the author must be confused, eradication of the marriage institution is not a sign of societal or scientific advancement, but a sign of regression. The caveman did not have this social contract of marriage at the onset, but with advancement marriage evolved and society was the better for it. For me i will vote for the institution and our African traditional way of reducing marital stress- polygamy of more than 2 wives.

kudos fellow.

what was your question again? if i'm too young to be a feminist?
i though i answered that. It was a stupid question. that was my answer.

I disagree.  it is only a stupid question because you can only seem to offer an obstinate response.
I think you should be more concerned about your studies/getting your nails done/socializing with friends than engaging in nasty discussions that can ensue from feministic approach to some questions.

if this was the case, then the likelihood of me being a feminist will be lessened.

in that case, I'm starting to understand where your feminism comes from.

except if i was opinionated like one of those few, rare female writers of the 18th century . but i think i definitely am opinionated.

are all men to be blamed for the existence/lack there of "female writers in the 18th century."  of course you're opinionated, you're here sharing your opinions are you not. oh the power of freedom.

no males in my house is allowed to play video games while the women are cooking.

is this an established rule of thumb, or is that the feminist in you speaking?
you'd probably whine that the men shouldn't be playing games while your mom is in the kitchen fixing them a hot plate (if i'm correct).
heck you might cane them for being so inconsiderate.

my bro cooks good though. not better than me 'cause i'm older and more experienced.

he does? so does mine, i'm sure he's a better cook than you are as well. seems we have something in common. maybe it's not such a bad idea if feminists date/end up married to anti-feminists? interesting.
cheers, I'm leaving the house for some minutes.

creamish, thank you, some day these teenagers/young-adults will understand.

@proverbial, who said 50-50 is an after life thing please speak 4 yourself.

I did speak for myself madam. It is an opinion(I apologize if it didn't seem like it), not a statement of fact.

haha. I'm definitely a feminist and damn proud to be one. lol

not that it merits a noticeable award.

I'm not upset about being mistreated by men.

your post hinted that you're typifying certain men as being women cargos.

I grew up surrounded by respectful males. and i still am surrounded by respectful males (in real life)

shocker, I thought you grew up with men who played video games while your mother cooked in the kitchen & prepared them meals to eat.

I just replied your thread and made a suggestion to you you on it. lol

I'm glad, I'll read up on it pronto.

this is just like asking me if i'm too young to prefer orange juice over icecream.

doesn't quite answer my question does it? don't fault me for trying to understand where your bitterness and outcry about male-superiority stems from.

@Proverbial
Don't you think you're missing it somewhere. You refused to get the gist. The people clammouring for 50-50 never told you that they do not know how to cook.(whether they show their culinary skills or not)

nor did they tell me they know how to cook. still doesn't diminish from the truth that you speculated.

The group of people clamouring for 50-50 are either those:
1. That knows how to cook, but are not ready to take up the full responsibility in their matrimonial home(for reasons best known to them).

OR

2. Those that do not know how to cook at all(@Topic) and are not ready to learn

how about those that don't know how to cook & have no interest in learning?
as you can see, it's not either or, don't bifurcate. you can't simply break it down into 2 scenarios.

So, my assertion is still correct, it's now a question of how many of these ladies are ready to take up the responsibility in their homes.  It's a matter of choice.

not really.you said outrightly that & I quote

"olowotee":
Bet you, most of the ladies here clamouring for 50-50 are REAL WOMEN, that know how to cook

which @ that time, was pure speculation. it was/is possible that those who responded do not/did not know how to cook.

lol, mysogynist wannabe, how pathetic.

"wesley":
@Topic: If your wife doesn't cook for you and only cook for herself and kids, it's a sign that she probably doesn't love you or she wants you to be more responsible. do your part and she'll do hers. it's 50: 50.

must be another feminist. aren't you a bit too young for that?
keep dreaming of 50-50. it'll happen in the afterlife.
in the mean time, if you are upset about being mistreated by men, speak your mind, in fact I created a thread just for 'your likes'

"omo eko":
People that take your things with asking for permission first   

The stupid cab driver over charged me(Foolish man)

idiot      grow up and he said that long time ago.

@the thread
NOBODY CAN PISS ME OFF

alert, contradiction.

I just got a mental image of a woman with no female organs when i read that post

laughable.

anabell, I'm sorry you feel that way.
I'm getting ready to start a topic on feminism in marriage.

@Proverbial,

Mind you, I said "M O S T of the ladies here, " and not ALL.  Please, check the sentence again
It's not impossible that there are still some advocating for equality as you said. Of which, i'm not in support of!!!

Got the picture?

I got the picture long ago.  I took liberty of glancing through the pages, and yes "most of the ladies here" did not reveal their culminary abilities.  You probably thought you'd be able to state that so freely without expecting some retortion.
you later introduced the "food section" - which certainly can support your said claim.

my stands still remains 50 -50 bringing in money together and doing household work together

what has this got to do with 'the value of a woman who cannot cook'?