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PresidObi:
Tinubu is older than Roosevelt with a whopping 48 years.

He was 48 and so what?

He couldn't move around like Tinubu and he wasn't healthy like Tinubu too

For Many of you campaigning against Tinubu because of health and age, although it matter it is not what matter most and a priority. One of the best performing president of America that led them through the greatest depression, economic crisis and world War 2, presided from a wheelchair.

What we should make a priority is the policies and ideas of presidential candidates and wether they have the capability to implement it.


Franklin D. Roosevelt was not healthy like Tinubu he was almost paralysed and still performed as a president, because it is brain job not a sport.

Paralysis to presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt

At the 1920 Democratic convention Roosevelt won the nomination for vice president on a ticket with presidential nominee James M. Cox. Roosevelt campaigned vigorously on behalf of American entry into the League of Nations, but the Democrats lost in a landslide to the Republican ticket of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge. Roosevelt then became vice president of a bonding company, Fidelity and Deposit Company of Maryland, and entered into several other business ventures.

In August 1921, while Roosevelt was on vacation at Campobello Island, New Brunswick, Canada, his life was transformed when he was stricken with poliomyelitis. He suffered intensely, and for some time he was almost completely paralyzed. His mother urged him to retire to the family estate at Hyde Park, but his wife and Howe believed it essential that he remain active in politics. For his part, Roosevelt never abandoned hope that he would regain the use of his legs.

Unable to pursue an active political career as he recovered from polio, Roosevelt depended on his wife to keep his name alive in Democratic circles. Although initially very shy, Eleanor Roosevelt became an effective public speaker and an adroit political analyst under Howe’s tutelage. As a result of her speaking engagements all over New York state, Roosevelt never faded entirely from the political scene, despite what seemed to be a career-ending affliction. In 1924 he made a dramatic appearance at the Democratic convention to nominate Alfred E. Smith, governor of New York, for president, and he repeated his nomination of Smith at the 1928 convention. Smith, in turn, urged Roosevelt to run for governor of New York in 1928. Roosevelt was at first reluctant but eventually agreed.


Franklin D. Roosevelt (left) with Democratic politician John W. Davis, 1928.
Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
As he traveled by automobile around the state, Roosevelt demonstrated that his illness had not destroyed the youthful resilience and vitality that had led people such as Howe to predict great political success. He also showed that he had matured into a more serious person, one now with a keen appreciation for life’s hardships. On election day Roosevelt won by 25,000 votes, even though New York state went Republican in the presidential election, contributing to Herbert Hoover’s landslide victory in the 1928 presidential election over Smith.


Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
Succeeding Smith as governor, Roosevelt realized he had to establish an administration distinct from that of his predecessor. Accordingly, he declined to appoint Smith’s cronies to state office and did not look to Smith, the “Happy Warrior,” for guidance. Smith, already stung by his defeat for the presidency, was hurt by Roosevelt’s apparent lack of gratitude, and a breach developed between the two men.

During his first term, Governor Roosevelt concentrated on tax relief for farmers and cheaper public utilities for consumers. The appeal of his programs, particularly in upstate New York, led to his reelection in 1930 by 725,000 votes. As the depression worsened during his second term, Roosevelt moved farther to the political left, mobilizing the state government to provide relief and to aid in economic recovery. In the fall of 1931 he persuaded the Republican-dominated legislature to establish the Temporary Emergency Relief Administration, which eventually provided unemployment assistance to 10 percent of New York’s families. His aggressive approach to the economic problems of his state, along with his overwhelming electoral victory in 1930, boosted Roosevelt into the front ranks of contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1932.

Because winning the nomination then required a two-thirds vote in the Democratic convention, even a leading contender could be stopped with relative ease. It soon became apparent that Roosevelt’s strongest opposition would come from urban and conservative Eastern Democrats still loyal to Smith; his strongest support was in the South and West. The opposition became stronger when John Nance Garner of Texas, speaker of the House of Representatives, won the California Democratic primary. But on the third ballot at the 1932 convention, Garner released his delegates to Roosevelt, who then captured the required two-thirds vote on the fourth ballot. Garner received the vice presidential nomination. Roosevelt then broke tradition by appearing in person to accept his party’s nomination. In his speech before the delegates, he said, “I pledge you, I pledge myself, to a new deal for the American people.”

With the depression the only issue of consequence in the presidential campaign of 1932, the American people had a choice between the apparently unsuccessful policies of the incumbent Hoover and the vaguely defined New Deal program presented by Roosevelt. While Roosevelt avoided specifics, he made clear that his program for economic recovery would make extensive use of the power of the federal government. In a series of addresses carefully prepared by a team of advisers popularly known as the Brain Trust, he promised aid to farmers, public development of electric power, a balanced budget, and government policing of irresponsible private economic power. Besides having policy differences, the two candidates presented a stark contrast in personal demeanour as well. Roosevelt was genial and exuded confidence, while Hoover remained unremittingly grim and dour. On election day, Roosevelt received nearly 23 million popular votes to Hoover’s nearly 16 million; the electoral vote was 472 to 59. In a repudiation not just of Hoover but also of the Republican Party, Americans elected substantial Democratic majorities to both houses of Congress.

In the four months between the election and Roosevelt’s inauguration, President Hoover sought Roosevelt’s cooperation in stemming the deepening economic crisis. But Roosevelt refused to subscribe to Hoover’s proposals, which Hoover himself admitted would mean “the abandonment of 90 percent of the so-called new deal.” As a result, the economy continued to decline. By inauguration day—March 4, 1933—most banks had shut down, industrial production had fallen to just 56 percent of its 1929 level, at least 13 million wage earners were unemployed, and farmers were in desperate straits.



In his inaugural address Roosevelt promised prompt, decisive action, and he conveyed some of his own unshakable self-confidence to millions of Americans listening on radios throughout the land. “This great nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and prosper,” he asserted, adding, “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”


https://www.britannica.com/biography/Franklin-D-Roosevelt/The-Second-New-Deal

For Many of you campaigning against Tinubu because of health and age, although it matter it is not what matter most and a priority. One of the best performing president of America that led them through the greatest depression, economic crisis and world War 2, presided from a wheelchair.

What we should make a priority is the policies and ideas of presidential candidates and wether they have the capability to implement it.


Franklin D. Roosevelt was not healthy like Tinubu he was almost paralysed and still perform as a president, because it is brain job not a sport.

Paralysis to presidency of Franklin D. Roosevelt

At the 1920 Democratic convention Roosevelt won the nomination for vice president on a ticket with presidential nominee James M. Cox. Roosevelt campaigned vigorously on behalf of American entry into the League of Nations, but the Democrats lost in a landslide to the Republican ticket of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge. Roosevelt then became vice president of a bonding company, Fidelity and Deposit Company of Maryland, and entered into several other business ventures.

In August 1921, while Roosevelt was on vacation at Campobello Island, New Brunswick, Canada, his life was transformed when he was stricken with poliomyelitis. He suffered intensely, and for some time he was almost completely paralyzed. His mother urged him to retire to the family estate at Hyde Park, but his wife and Howe believed it essential that he remain active in politics. For his part, Roosevelt never abandoned hope that he would regain the use of his legs.

Unable to pursue an active political career as he recovered from polio, Roosevelt depended on his wife to keep his name alive in Democratic circles. Although initially very shy, Eleanor Roosevelt became an effective public speaker and an adroit political analyst under Howe’s tutelage. As a result of her speaking engagements all over New York state, Roosevelt never faded entirely from the political scene, despite what seemed to be a career-ending affliction. In 1924 he made a dramatic appearance at the Democratic convention to nominate Alfred E. Smith, governor of New York, for president, and he repeated his nomination of Smith at the 1928 convention. Smith, in turn, urged Roosevelt to run for governor of New York in 1928. Roosevelt was at first reluctant but eventually agreed.


Franklin D. Roosevelt (left) with Democratic politician John W. Davis, 1928.
Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
As he traveled by automobile around the state, Roosevelt demonstrated that his illness had not destroyed the youthful resilience and vitality that had led people such as Howe to predict great political success. He also showed that he had matured into a more serious person, one now with a keen appreciation for life’s hardships. On election day Roosevelt won by 25,000 votes, even though New York state went Republican in the presidential election, contributing to Herbert Hoover’s landslide victory in the 1928 presidential election over Smith.


Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc.
Succeeding Smith as governor, Roosevelt realized he had to establish an administration distinct from that of his predecessor. Accordingly, he declined to appoint Smith’s cronies to state office and did not look to Smith, the “Happy Warrior,” for guidance. Smith, already stung by his defeat for the presidency, was hurt by Roosevelt’s apparent lack of gratitude, and a breach developed between the two men.

During his first term, Governor Roosevelt concentrated on tax relief for farmers and cheaper public utilities for consumers. The appeal of his programs, particularly in upstate New York, led to his reelection in 1930 by 725,000 votes. As the depression worsened during his second term, Roosevelt moved farther to the political left, mobilizing the state government to provide relief and to aid in economic recovery. In the fall of 1931 he persuaded the Republican-dominated legislature to establish the Temporary Emergency Relief Administration, which eventually provided unemployment assistance to 10 percent of New York’s families. His aggressive approach to the economic problems of his state, along with his overwhelming electoral victory in 1930, boosted Roosevelt into the front ranks of contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1932.

Because winning the nomination then required a two-thirds vote in the Democratic convention, even a leading contender could be stopped with relative ease. It soon became apparent that Roosevelt’s strongest opposition would come from urban and conservative Eastern Democrats still loyal to Smith; his strongest support was in the South and West. The opposition became stronger when John Nance Garner of Texas, speaker of the House of Representatives, won the California Democratic primary. But on the third ballot at the 1932 convention, Garner released his delegates to Roosevelt, who then captured the required two-thirds vote on the fourth ballot. Garner received the vice presidential nomination. Roosevelt then broke tradition by appearing in person to accept his party’s nomination. In his speech before the delegates, he said, “I pledge you, I pledge myself, to a new deal for the American people.”

With the depression the only issue of consequence in the presidential campaign of 1932, the American people had a choice between the apparently unsuccessful policies of the incumbent Hoover and the vaguely defined New Deal program presented by Roosevelt. While Roosevelt avoided specifics, he made clear that his program for economic recovery would make extensive use of the power of the federal government. In a series of addresses carefully prepared by a team of advisers popularly known as the Brain Trust, he promised aid to farmers, public development of electric power, a balanced budget, and government policing of irresponsible private economic power. Besides having policy differences, the two candidates presented a stark contrast in personal demeanour as well. Roosevelt was genial and exuded confidence, while Hoover remained unremittingly grim and dour. On election day, Roosevelt received nearly 23 million popular votes to Hoover’s nearly 16 million; the electoral vote was 472 to 59. In a repudiation not just of Hoover but also of the Republican Party, Americans elected substantial Democratic majorities to both houses of Congress.

In the four months between the election and Roosevelt’s inauguration, President Hoover sought Roosevelt’s cooperation in stemming the deepening economic crisis. But Roosevelt refused to subscribe to Hoover’s proposals, which Hoover himself admitted would mean “the abandonment of 90 percent of the so-called new deal.” As a result, the economy continued to decline. By inauguration day—March 4, 1933—most banks had shut down, industrial production had fallen to just 56 percent of its 1929 level, at least 13 million wage earners were unemployed, and farmers were in desperate straits.



In his inaugural address Roosevelt promised prompt, decisive action, and he conveyed some of his own unshakable self-confidence to millions of Americans listening on radios throughout the land. “This great nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and prosper,” he asserted, adding, “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”


https://www.britannica.com/biography/Franklin-D-Roosevelt/The-Second-New-Deal

seunny4lif:
Like how mr Man?
Why are the unknown gun men or women not in Edo or Delta or Kogi state that are closer to east

So you have not been reading about the attacks in Kogi State?

IGoComotYaTeeth:
Even if fulani kill ur family una go still hate the Igbos more, you're a fooI

You are the fool here

Why is it that it is Ondo that is closest to the East experiencing these attacks?

1Alex:
If e happen for southeast, we shout IPOB.

Now e Don dey happen for southwest, who we suspect?

Na still IPOB

Why is it that it is Ondo that is closest to the East experiencing this attacks?

No smoke without fire

Ondo is closest to the East so no surprise

Melodistic:
well is that an achievement?

It is a great achievement

Imagine if all states tertiary institutions in Nigeria are not on strike like that of Lagos state ?

Doesn't that mean half of the Problems have already been solved?

But because of your hatred for Lagos state government and Tinubu you did not think before you comment.

MrColdsweat:
I believe you're one of those people who believe oduduwa fell from the sky.

Ijebus are Jews who migrated from Sudan. Just as oduduwa migrated with his people from Saudi Arabia.

Stop peddling falsehood as history

Ijebus migrated from ile - ife they were among the first people that Oduduwa met in Ile - ife, their Ancestors Obanta was a prince of one of the ruling faction in ile ife before Oduduwa arrived, after Oduduwa arrived there was a war to unify ile ife.

He left with his people after they lost the war and later founded Ijebu kingdom it was also the same reason that Ijebu people hardly associate with Oyo Empire and it was also the same reason that King of Ijebu concocted that Sudan story so as not to be under Ooni of Ife influence.

Ooni of Ife is an Oduduwa descendant and the Ijebu still aren't happy with the way they left ile - ife back then. They believe Ile - ife ruling dynasty belong to them.

Ijebu people are not jew same way Oduduwa didn't migrated from Saudi Arabia

Oduduwa was a Yoruba man from Ijesha Land because of the role he played in Yoruba land they made him a Gods through that story of descending from the sky, same way Yoruba Gods were once real people that lived among Yoruba before they died, for example Ogun and Sango, sango was an Alaafin of Oyo Empire before he died, but they turned his history to a myth to make him a gods.

MrColdsweat:
Most Yoruba sub-ethnic groups were yorubanized via conquest.

The ijebus do not come from the lineage of oduduwa. They migrated from sudan and have now taken up the Yoruba language. But Does that make them Yoruba?

Who told you that?

You guys act like you know Ijebu history more than Ijebu people themselves.

Awolowo is an Ijebu man so you want to tell me Awolowo is no longer Yoruba?

You are very ignorant.

It is not only people that descended from Oduduwa lineage that bear Yoruba alone.

Yoruba mean people that migrated from Ile Ife in present day Osun state, to be a Yoruba at least you must have connection and trace your Origin to Ile ife.

IamAtikulate:
Lies Sir.

Ilajes didn't trace their ancestry to Ife.

FACT

Go and tell them that

IamAtikulate:
You see how painful it is when you people claim Delta Igbos are not Igbos and at the same time say the 1965 coup is an Igbo coup.

We know Aworis are Yorubas, but we just want you guys to see how foolish your thinking about Delta Igbos are.

We will continue to push that narrative until Yorubas repent.


Aworis are Yorubas but Egun, Ilajes and Ijebu are not. They don't even share the same ancestry. They were only Yorubanised due to closeness to Oyo Empire.

FACT

Who told you they are not from the same Ancestry?

Every Yoruba sub group trace their origin to Ile - ife and migrated from ile ife

You are just ignorant and adding "fact" in capital letters at the end of your comment doesn't make it fact.

Christistruth00:
Read what I wrote again Ewe , Ga, Egun of Ghana, Togo, Benin Republi all descended from Oduduwa and migrated from Yorubaland though they speak the Language of their Akan Gbe Neigbhours


By the Way the Yorubas also have bona fide Yorubas in Benin Republic and in Togo and some of the Tarbon of Ghana still speak Yoruba language


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3UCK4rc75k

Well I won't argue with you again

Even if they have relationship with Yoruba they said they are not Yoruba and reject being Yoruba.

Nobody can force them to be what they don't want to be, you read what David posted on Twitter? So it is your problem if you still call them Yoruba, to me they are not Yoruba.

Soso75:
Sadly these wannabe “Yorubas” don’t know that the only true Yorubas are the Ibadan people. Every other Yoruba today was a Social construct set up by the British colonial master and their puppet Samuel Ajayi Crowther in an attempt to Christianize Western Nigeria. Same as Taiwanese are not Chinese, Ikweres are not Igbos ,Austrians are not Germans etc. That’s how Lagosian are not Yorubas, Ondo are not Yorubas, Ekiti are not Yorubas etc. Read people!!!

You are the one that need to read, stop peddling falsehood


Even Ibadan people originated from some where and they came from Ile - ife in Osun State.

If you are not Ignorant you would know that Ibadan people are also known as Oyo people.

The indigenous people of Osogbo in Osun State, Ede in Osun State, Ikirun, gbongan, Ogbomosho in Oyo state, Ila Orangun in Osun State, Ibadan in Oyo state etc. all belong to the same sub group of Yoruba known as Oyo people.

Tell me how Ibadan people are the only True Yoruba when they speak the same Yoruba dialect as people in Osogbo, Ede, Ila Orangun, Ogbomosho, Ggbangan, Ikirun, etc?

You see how stupid you sound.

I am an Ijesha man from Ilesa in Osun State and I can understand all Oyo people in Osogbo, Ogbomosho, Ede, Ibadan etc when they speak their dialect, same way they can also understand me if I speak in my dialect, linguistically there is almost no differences except for pronunciation and intonations of certain words in Yoruba, culturally we are also the same, we greet the same way, worship the same kind of gods, wear the same kind of clothes etc nobody need to tell you you are the same kind of people to know you are the same kind of people if you have brain.

You see that you are the stupid one that think he is wiser than 30 million people.

Christistruth00:
The Egun and Ewe and Ga of Ghana are the same descendants of Yoruba People that all left Nigeria around the same time but reach due to heavy War along the Dahomey Coast reached their destination Locations at different periods and in different groups and they all speak Akan Languages Which came from the ancient Ghana Empire but they all practice Paternal Lineage like their Yoruba Ancestors did

The Egun People migrated all the way to Ghana with the Ewe that left from Oyo and the Ga that left from Ile Ife only to reach Ghana and migrate back to Ouidah in Benin Repubic because that was were their Oracle sent them to when War broke out with the Akwamu tribe in Ghana

Yoruba is different from ewe and Ga people of Ghana

Stop saying what you don't know.

Etinosa1234:
we were never Yoruba in the first place

Yes you are not Yoruba

The Bini People that we can call Yoruba were the people that followed Oranmiyan to Benin to helped him with ruling over Benin but overtime they got heavily influenced by Benin people and became part of them so they are no longer Yoruba.

Christistruth00:
Look , the Yorubas of Benin Repubiic and Togo, the Egun Of Benin and Togo, the Ga and Ewe Tribes Of Benin, Togo and Ghana all migrated from Ile Ife and are descendants of Oduduwa

Ouidah ,Weme and Allada were all originally part of the Yoruba Popo Kingdom that reached Togo

The Fon Of Dahomey Conquered part of it and intermarried with the Popos to produce the Egun People and Language

Even the Fon People themselves had some Yoruba Ancestry but it was the Slave trade that truly put them on the Map

They were Truly a Slave raiding and Trading Nation they didn’t even bother with Agriculture till Slavery was abolished after french Colonisation so the Egun had to flee from them to save themselves from Slavery

When the Alaafin of Oyo reconquered the Kingdom both the Fon and Egun there became bilingual

speaking Yoruba too in addition to the Gun gbe Language

Yoruba don't have any kingdom that bear Popo or Popo kingdom

I don't know where you take your own history lessons from

Christistruth00:
You definitely didn’t read the article

High Chief Wauwatosa Of Badagry Kingdom said Egun migrated from Ile Ife

It is wrong they came from Benin Republic not ile ife.

What that chief said is totally different from what their Historian said and what they claimed themselves.

Christistruth00:
The Egun are the offspring of the Yoruba Popo that migrated from Ife and the Fon Of Dahomey

If the Egun were denying their Yoruba Ancestry they wouldn’t have settled among their Yoruba brethren in Yorubaland

Read this interview with an Egun high Chief
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/03/yoruba-in-badagry-are-from-ile-ife-not-ghana-high-chief-wawu/

They are linked to Benin Republic not even Ghana.

The fact is that many of them don't claim Yoruba and none of the history you said linked them to ile - ife or Yoruba.

At least you heard what David said, you can't force them to be what they don't want to be, they even demand their own state in Lagos.

You are entitled to your opinion but to me they are not Yoruba, many of them don't even claim it and they are not even listed among part of Yoruba.

Christistruth00:
The Egun are the offspring of the Yoruba Popo that migrated from Ife and the Fon Of Dahomey

If the Egun were denying their Yoruba Ancestry they wouldn’t have settled among their Yoruba brethren in Yorubaland

You lack knowledge about Yoruba history

There is no Yoruba sub-group that bear popo

And what you are saying is their History is totally different from what they claimed.

There are Ijaw people in Ondo state, it doesn't make them Yoruba just because they lives in South west.

Christistruth00:
Urhobo do not claim Edo but everyone knows they are siblings though their Language is different

Yoruba and Egun are exactly the same

They might have some relationship it still doesn't make them Edo or Bini

Same way Yoruba have relationship with Bini and we still don't call them part of us.

The Oyo Empire conquered Dahomey Kingdom and ruled it for many years, it doesn't make every people in Dahomey kingdom Yoruba, the people that claimed being Yoruba in Benin Republic today are people their ancestors migrated from ile-ife, Oyo Empire, Ijesha kingdom and other Yoruba people that migrated from South west region in Nigeria and settled in Benin Republic and Dahomey Kingdom in those days.

Dahomey kingdom still have its own indigenous people that are not connected culturally and linguistically with Yoruba in any way.

It is just like saying every Nigerian is a British because we were colonised by them.

The only thing that can make Egun Yoruba is the fact they have been living in Lagos Nigeria and Yoruba land for so long, which make them naturalised Yoruba, but you still can't call them full blooded Yoruba they would be egun - Yoruba. It is just like when Nigerian traveled to Britain, USA etc and became their citizens for living in there country for so long or getting born there but they would always be Nigerian - Americans or Nigerian - British.

Linguistically and culturally egun is different from Yoruba.

christistruth01:
Do you understand Ekiti?

The Egun are our People and descendants of Oduduwa through the Yoruba Popos

They are the offspring of Yoruba Popos and Fon of Dahomey marriages do you expect us to deny them ?


The Alaafin ruled over the Fon of Dahomey. For nearly a Century

I am an Ijesha man from Ilesa in Osun State and I understand Ekiti people when they speak their dialect.

Our ancestors understand each other very well in those days even with their different dialects, but English language is now changing every thing, many Yoruba can't even speak their dialect again and can hardly speak pure Yoruba without English but you want to understand those that can still speak their dialect very well when you can't even speak and understand yours.

Christistruth00:
They are our People and they were Bona fide Citizens Of Alaafin’s Oyo Empire


They have no Historical relationship with Igbos

These are the known sub groups of Yoruba and it even include Yoruba groups in Benin Republic and Togo that migrated from ile ife. There is no egun on the list.

They might have relationship with Oyo Empire doesn't mean they are Yoruba, at least your ancestors must had migrated from Ile - ife in Osun State to consider you Yoruba.

The Oyo Empire conquered Dahomey Kingdom and ruled it for many years, it doesn't make every people in Dahomey kingdom Yoruba, the people that claimed Yoruba in Benin Republic today were people their ancestors migrated from ile-ife, Oyo Empire, Ijesha and other Yoruba sub groups that migrated from South west region in Nigeria and settled in Benin Republic and Dahomey Kingdom in those days.

Dahomey kingdom still have its own indigenous people that are not connected culturally and linguistically with Yoruba in any way.

It is just like saying every Nigerian is a British because we were colonised by them.

They do not even claim Yoruba, at least you read what David Posted on Twitter.

And You lack knowledge about Yoruba, there is no Yoruba sub group that bear Popo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Yoruba_subgroups