₦airaland Forum

Pearl1910:
But 3900 on Indrive is better than 3100 Net on Bolt na

That's my point sir. Bolt is not always profitable. One needs to use both apps to make it

Gentlelife50:
No think am bolt is more profitable.

No, Bolt is not more profitable. You have to use both apps now to break even. I'm telling you for a fact... Especially now that indrive is also giving bonus.

For the past 3 weeks, I've not paid much to Indrive. I discovered that most riders book Bolt now after being ignored by Indrive drivers. One was booking from Anthony to Arowojobe Street, Mafoluku and put 3900 naira and no driver was accepting it.

The same trip came to me on Bolt and my net was 3100.

Ajibaiye:
You all Experienced drivers, i want to put this question to you.

If taking all short trips of #400+/Per KM like above picture, does it pays at the end of the day compare to long trip of #400+/Per KM.

This always baffles me and i am eager to learn more.

@Omoapena and @Giltronix @Pearl and other bosses. Your tutorials really helped me in this work o. I say to Allah once again to bless you all beyond human comprehension.

While doing all trips i can say i do make about 40k with 20k Fuel. I know it’s not enough in the faces of others but am still learning. It’s why I threw the above Question to the house

When asking question, make it easy for whoever that wants to answer you.

The 40k you "make", is it gross or net or savings?

Gross is before commission
Net is after commission
Savings is after fuel money has been deducted.

But to answer your question on whether those short trips pay, no they don't if you do it too much.

The reason is because, that 8 minutes trip you're looking at there can consume 30 minutes of your time and more. Consider the time you will use to drive to the pickup, the waiting time, plus the uncertainty of Lagos road.

Worried54:
Yes

What type of car is it

Worried54:
I just think the way she is not wanting to come stay here means she doesn't love me ,though she still have sex anytime I go to Ibadan but I always tell her the economy is bad and I can't afford wedding now ,I'm 37yrs so I think I shud give her space and let her fend for the girl herself and feel what I have been going through all this while .. if am I right or wrong let me know .. I still do love her but I think she is taking advantage of the love . And she too dey listen to her people .

You're a gambler? 😄

Your problem long bro. You said you own a car, is the car still available with you?

Doris4ever:
As at yesterday, the lawyer is waiting for the letter to be approve. Then I will be invited to write my statement.

I will call the lawyer today to know if the letter was approved yesterday.

We all should learn from this. First of all, you don't have any reason to take the car to the owner for inspection on a higher purchase deal. His stake is to be getting his money weekly.

Secondly, when you know you're dealing with a demon, you have to come to the dinning table with a long spoon 🥄

If you can, borrow money and pay up the outstanding amount to the owner of the car. If he claims that it's because you defaulted, tell him you're ready to pay him up outrightly and take a full possession of the car. You can then pay the loan with interest as agreed with the lender.

Those of us that only have to worry about car maintenance don't know the less worry we have.

This is what happens when you marry for financial reasons. The lady obviously left the ex because he seemed not ready financially to marry and she got married to someone she felt met her financial expectations, only to still go back to the same level she ran away from.

Women should stop seeing marriage as a means to escape poverty. If you want to live a certain lifestyle, work for it.

sandammy:
If you do this full-time, ₦450, ₦500-₦550 should be your benchmark. Some people only consider the time it will take them to complete the trip and not how far the journey is.

Someone like me that drives only on Sundays when I have time, I'm very selective and don't do much trip so I calculate based on price/km

So you need to decide for yourself

38k plus on just 7 trips is great. However, for a regular driver, price/km is not a sole determinant of a good trip. Some short trips can pay you 1000/km yet they're a total waste of time.

Also, for Biodun1929, you have to look at the general condition of the market at any point in time. During rush period when rider to driver ratio is higher on the rider side, and it's surging on Bolt, you have to aim higher.

Because even the riders use Bolt to decide how much they will accept on Indrive.

Biodun1929:
But can you break down how one should charge, based on the KM of the journey? So that I know how much to add ontop of the amount for a trip that indrive brings.

I use Bolt pricing as a yardstick. I do more of Bolt than Indrive, as a result, I make sure any trip I'm taking on Indrive is way higher than what I can get on Bolt.

The reason is because, under some certain circumstances like traffic, waiting, noticeably longer route, etc., the price on Bolt may change, that's not the same on Indrive.

So I factor those into consideration before bidding. In fact, most of the time, I don't bid on some requests because the highest amount that is available doesn't meet up to my minimum acceptable price.

So, it's not always how much you can bid differently from what the rider put, since there's a limit to the maximum bid amount, but whether the maximum price is worth your time and effort.

Biodun1929:
Okay. Thanks for the comment.

By the way, the passenger actually paid me 10k, instead of the 8k2 showing on the app.

That explains it. The rider knew that price is not fair so he or she compensated you out of their goodwill... But I don't live my life on pity and consideration.

I charge the right amount upfront.

Glithronix:
With this net, it shows that the trip was like 8k.
The KM you covered not relevant (to me).
If 48mins was the duration, it is an add-up of your drive time to PU, your waiting time and the travel time - this shows that the trip in action sense was like 30-something minutes.
8k for that time is not really bad on indrive.
Sometimes, indrive will throw a huge amount on that same time trip.
Keep hustling, baba.


Much respect, boss.

Who told you that drive time includes the time it takes to get to pick up point, wait time, and actual travel time?

Biodun1929:
Guys, help me analyze this InDrive trip. Is it good, bad, or ugly?

Not that a fair deal. You should have negotiated for at least 10k gross. A short trip of 6.5km will pay like 3.5k to 4k on a norm. You did x3 of it.

For those that said time overrides km, you must think that Bolt is crazy for favouring kilometre over time.

okey4reel:
Good day house, please has anyone done his tinted permit or have an idea how to go about it

Have paid all the money required and mine has been pending verification for a while now. I chose virtual verification and paid separate fee for that

carl90:
I also have interest in partnership of this nature i. e partnering with a pharmacist to set up a pharmacy store.
You just have to consult widely as you are the one putting in more money in the partnership .
Have a business plan.
Some legally binding agreements will be signed by both parties.
Just research and consult as widely as you can . Do not rush the process.

Thanks for the advice. Are you based in Lagos? I'm still looking for a befitting space.

dav1002:
I remember the days driver go reduce price than the price the rider inputted on Rida app so the rider can pick them.

So ridiculous

On Indrive, I was able to reduce price to 900 naira. Due to glitch and network problems, everything is obtainable on Indrive

Pearl1910:
But u really can't blame the riders
It's the app coys that allow such a fare on that distance. Secondly, u must blame the drivers who keep picking these ridiculous fares. Cos even if the app coy allows low fares, if drivers can boycott the app for a few days, they will get the message.

Everybody will price what they want to buy in the market to get the best prices and if they can get it free of charge sef, they wouldn't mind. But I have never seen a seller who sells his goods consistently on a loss. So I am wondering whether these drivers are getting free fuel abi is everyone now using CNG and I have been left behind?

This was my experience today. A rider booked on Indrive and put 2300. I was curious to know if the it is the app that suggests these ridiculous prices or the riders reduce it by themselves.

I switched to the rider mode and the app price suggestion was loading forever, so I manually inputted 1200 naira for the same trip I find ridiculous at 2300 and a driver accepted it at that rate.

The truth is, there's no justification for accepting some certain fair amount. Drivers that do that are low lifers and people that are very docile and complacent in life. 20k per day net and 10k per day savings is enough for them.

One was arguing with me on Facebook that netting 20k per day equals 600k per month and is more than enough, as if anybody can work for 30 days.

I work only 4 days in a week and I must net minimum of 40k, otherwise, there's no need for me to come out.

Pearl1910:
Bolt fare don dey increase again.
Trip was around 25k when it came in. Was surprised to see 35k at the end of the trip.
VI to Omole

Is the 25k not supposed to be your net? I thought Bolt only shows net price now. So you wouldn't know what the gross is until you end the ride.

lexylexy:
Una still dey chase bolt bonus? So bolt still has N1200 trips, nawa o. The lowest trip fare on Uber is N2000 net.

There are trips of 1100 self. I don't pick those nonsense prices.

davit:
Bolt bonus is not reliable. Na so dem givẹ mé 10 percent last week. Moment they noticed I was meeting the 5 trips with better prices, they reduced it to 8 per cent straight up.

You can message them inapp though. Maybe they will address it.

They adjusted it automatically the next day to 6700 for the remaining bonus of the week.

Since that time, I've never chased their bonus. 14 trips is such a hard target that I need to do 1200 naira trips to meet up. The bonus amount doesn't worth it

Kaymaxi2222:
the thing is crazy I pick a ride it was 59mins the app was showing when I started the trip I saw 1hr33min Omo I drop the passenger straight Ni oo cos the passenger was not ready to add to the fare

That's how I picked a request yesterday going to Fadeyi. I explained to the rider that the app was wrong in its calculation because Google maps still think that there's a road through yabatech back gate.

The ride was 2500 and I asked her to pay 4500, she said I should step out of my car, hold my chest and shout I'm a thief 3 times

Lol. When I've gotten another trip on Surge on Bolt.

Omoapena:
look how indrive is deceiving drivers

I think this is an update to the riders. There's a way they can bypass the time. Because some of them will cancel the ride and book again and the false time will be the same

Can someone explain this mystery to me? Bolt gave me a bonus of 8200 and when I completed the requirement, I was given 6700 instead

cyif2003:
omo picking on d road na offense in Lagos state. I no wan start wetin go later hook me

There's a bus stop before that park. All you needed to do was to clear very well at the bus stop and call your rider to meet you there.

In Lagos, if someone looks at you with dirty eyes, you look them back. If they try to misbehave, you have your leg on your accelerator bro...clear everyone 😄

With Bolt adopting the fastest finger method, I hereby declare Indrive the KING and market leader of ehailing business in Lagos.

I have never seen a competitor lose the originality and business identity as Bolt. Bolt has literally copied Indrive in everything but 10% commission.

Now that they have introduced fasted finger, can they just remove the acceptance rate? Because I wonder what determines the acceptance rate.

Is it the trips that I did not accept and nobody else accepted it too or what?

WareLogMan:
I think this was where they nabbed him
That's the only valid one way around yaba tech and unilag at the moment.

He should have negotiated his way out.
That's was sad

Their office is at that Edmund Crescent. They will not accept any negotiation. I've picked a woman at that Lastma office on Edmund Crescent that Lastma billed 200k for one way.

She said her driver was driving on Montgomery road and turned left at the end of the road to join Herbert Macaulay Way. They clearly saw the no left turn sign there and she told the driver not to turn but he did and the car was impounded. Those people at Yaba are taking you to their office straight.

Last week Friday, I picked a rider inside the Lastma office, Oshodi. Her Lexus 350 was impounded at Mile 12 because she stopped on the service lane to buy pineapple and those task force hilux blocked her.

When they asked her to settle, she said she only had 5k to give, they refused and booked her 50k in their office.

This woman works with civil defense but those Lastma guys didn't send her ID card.

So, it's not about being an ehailing driver or not, they impound any and every car. I've even seen them hold Gwagon on that bridge heading to Ojota from Maryland.

Kingbrighto:
they were so much and they were dragging the key with me and fighting me , I had to follow them to the office and I’ve been booked and told to pay 152,500 , what is the way forward

You mean you drove left towards the university road from the Herbert Macaulay Way? Were you trying to connect Herbert Macaulay Way to go to Jibowu or what?

Because if you meant to go to Unilag or Yaba area and were using your maps, it would have taken you through Tobi Lawal road.

And if it's the latter, did you see any other car drive through that route?

The way forward to avoid situations like this is to wait and observe the road to see if people are successfully driving through the road and the second option is to ask people around.

Also, was your glass wound down? How come they're dragging the steering with you? One rule I give myself is to always wind up my glasses anytime I want to do something unusual or find myself in a suspicious place, that way, I can use the maximum speed and get out of the situation.

Glithronix:
Same with indrive, since Tuesday.
Na brain person take survive.
Na why I only did soft work on those days.
I just hope this weekend no be like so.


Much respect, boss.

I think drivers are the ones enabling these guys. Imagine 1k ride on Indrive. We've gone back to pre-subsidy removal era when fuel was sold for 198/litre.

How will any rational human being take such trips. I mean, you'll have to drive to where this person is, wait for them to come out, take the disrespect and risk of taking them to their destination, sometimes, even carry heavy load or many riders and collect such amount of money?

Bolt has gone mad with their pricing. Why reduce the fares even further?

mimilogistics:
We currently don't have offices outside Lagos but we are working towards setting up an office in Onitsha and Kano.


For now, when your goods arrives our office in Lagos and you are notified of the arrival of your goods via Whatsapp message, you can liaise with our Lagos staffs to help you waybill your goods to any state in Nigeria at your own bargain.

How do you handle the shipping cost. At what point is it determined and paid for? Do you charge per kg?

I'm interested in bringing goods from 1688 to Nigeria but I need to understand your shipping charges

olawaleatanda:
bypass the vehicle document since they're stubborn

You're kidding right? As an admin that I am?

Being at the mercy of another person is the worst thing that can happen to anybody.

Imagine I was chasing this bonus. Have done 7 trips already, remaining 7, before Bolt sent me a mail that my account is paused because of my driver's license.

Something I've sent to them earlier that my permanent one is not yet out and I was given extension in my temporary one.

cyif2003:
This is d category I can see

Write to them to add the Economy category for you. Even though it's only valid this festive period.

I don't use economy category if it's not surging no matter how long it takes for me to get a ride on Bolt Category.