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Kobojunkie:
Be specific! Explain yourself by citing the verses and how they are self-explanatory, according to you.
What exactly is one meant to comprehend from reading the above other than what is in fact stated as-is written?

Pharaoh was in the middle of the ocean, he was about to be drowned. Then he was trying to repent thereby making the statement “I believe that there is no god except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am one of those who submit.”

The next 2 verses
Q10-91
Now ˹you believe˺? But you always disobeyed and were one of the corruptors.

Q10-92
Today We will preserve your corpse so that you may become an example for those who come after you. And surely most people are heedless of Our examples!

Reading these verses, are the verses pointing to pharaoh being a muslim?

Kobojunkie:
Comprehend what exactly? Explain yourself!

The verse he quoted and the verse that follows is self explanatory. Maybe you should check it out yourself then come back if you too don't understand.

MightySparrow:
Verse 90 from surah Yunus
﴿۞ وَجَاوَزْنَا بِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ الْبَحْرَ فَأَتْبَعَهُمْ فِرْعَوْنُ وَجُنُودُهُ بَغْيًا وَعَدْوًا ۖ حَتَّىٰ إِذَا أَدْرَكَهُ الْغَرَقُ قَالَ آمَنتُ أَنَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا الَّذِي آمَنَتْ بِهِ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ وَأَنَا مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ﴾
[ يونس: 90]

English - Sahih International
10:90 And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his soldiers pursued them in tyranny and enmity until, when drowning overtook him, he said, "I believe that there is no deity except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am of the Muslims."
Surah Yunus in Arabic

The reason Allah wants to exterminate the children of Israel is because they were not Muslims and He sent a Muslim king to kill them. The same agenda was passed down to Mohammed and his followers till date.


The question now is: who defended Israelites in the Red Sea against Pharaoh?

The way you guys reason, one can only pity you.

Is it that you guys can't comprehend or u just choose to be ignorant deliberately?

Antlislaam:
Before today, the league of alfas and imams in SW states, Edo, Kogi, Kwara and Delta had fixed today for the commmencent of their 1-0-1 fasting. They don't want fulani master in sokoto to control and direct them again, I'm happy for Yoruba muslims

U no go leave wetin no concern you ehn? Busy body. u still have to wake up at 3am without eating sahur to comment on wetin no concern you.

"1-0-1 fasting" as if Una dey do your 0-0-1.

SIRTeee15:
Mr hadith rejector, since u have concluded that Ibn Kathir and all scholars who wrote the tafsirs are liars, and U know better; kindly tell us the 3 messengers Allah sent to the city on Surah 36.14

Thank U.

Which Hadith did I reject? This your coping mechanism is out of this world.

Keep fooling around.

U wan force ur false apostle Paul into the Qur'an. Dey play..

Delulu galore

-Qur'an consider Paul of all people messanger of Allah.

Baldwretch:
My guy well-well!

Are you going to use what Christians believe or hold as true to prove Islamic truth? Please don't. You shouldn't.

What Christians do, believe, or hold as true might not, after all, be true.

For the sake of this argument, no, Christians cannot eat pork. I don't know of others but at least I don't eat pork, never have, and I am a Christian!

Appeal to what you believe; don't bring the most corrupt religion into it.

Even if you as a Christian don't eat pork, the opinion of the writer of gospel according to Mark is that Jesus declared all food clean in Mark 7:19. Or why do you think some Christian eat pork?

I just find it absurd that you as a Christian that believe the gospels as we have them today are inspired word of God, that have Jesus Christ declaring all food clean as against the teachings of the Torah then you will turn around and find fault with prophet Muhammad not declaring camel unclean.. but if you want Christianity out of it, no problem.

Which now bring us to the questions. Do camels even have hooves to begin with? Do rabbits chew cud?

Baldwretch:
@Qasim6 my guy, you gave it to me woto-woto in one of my alt accounts sometimes back.

This post here:

https://www.nairaland.com/8017674/dont-think-qurans-claims-divine

Please come and give me woto-woto in this one! Let me fucking cry. I need to cry. No one has been able to!

For a start, please state your position.

Edit: Let me add another scenario of an order and a counter order:





Pork? Why is it haram?





O Wow! Tell me more.

What of camel?








Christian policeman here! Officers on patrol, where are you guys na, catch this guy.

Handcuff him, he must not be allowed to escape! He has the temerity to call what is forbidden as clean! Gag him by the mouth so he's unable to talk; he must not escape.



Interrogations ongoing

Who says? Says who? God Almighty or Muhammad?

Who told you that the camel is not forbidden too? Are you going to pick and choose what is clean? Does it look like a camel has evenly split hooves? Does it look like to you?

If I may ask you, on what authority do we decide what is and what is not forbidden?

Lol. Guy u are funny.

I'm just going to ask you a question now.

Can a Christian eat pork?

UncleAyo:
Have you help me fing Taqqiya

Yeah, once you get exposed for your nonsense, u play the nonexistent Taqiyya card.

You can crawl back into your hole now.

UncleAyo:
Many foreign journalists complain annually of prostitution in Mecca during hajj, it is because they don't understand the divine backing of what goes on.

Even with stringent terms of Sharia which stipulates that an adulterer or fornicator be executed. If two people are caught in an affair and brought before the Islamic court and they say they were only doing mut'ah, the jurisdiction will have less or no power to sanction them.

What is Mut'ah?
If he is a traveller, a tourist or a pilgrim, the faithful Muslim may have some other temporary 'wives' at strategic places wherever he lodges. This "marriage" is known as mut'ah or the law of "Desire" or "pleasure".

Mut'ah marriage may last for one hour or as long as the man desires.


I will update with details later.
Now Updated:::


MUT'A: DIVINE PROSTITUTION?

Again, if he is a traveler, a tourist or a pilgrim, the faithful Muslim may have some other temporary 'wives' at strategic places wherever he lodges. This 'marriage' is known as mut'ah or the Law of Desire. The word mut'ah means 'desire' or 'pleasure'. Mut'ah marriage may last for one hour or as long as the man desires. Some regard as an example of the kingdom of Allah on earth, especially, under Khomeini. Since the Sharia, the Islamic legal system, became fully operational in Iran in 1979, mut'ah has been revitalized. Many Iranian women (most of them divorcees) are engaged in mut'ah for economic sustenance. According to a research work done by an Iranian woman, Shahla Haeri, mut'ah flourishes in Iran and Egypt today. Some Islamic scholars in Iran believe that one is even free to contract many mut'ahs at the same time—apart from the four wives and slave girls or house-helps the Muslim man may have at home.

Historian Burkhardt has pointed out that mut'ah was already prevalent in Arabia before Mohammed started his preaching. The custom was that a host would normally offer a female relative of his to his guest for the night. The 'marriage' ended the following morning or as long as the guest stayed there. When the practice became fully developed in Islam, it became an arrangement between a man and an unmarried woman, preferably, a virgin, divorcee or widow in which the partners specify in advance the period that the relationship shall last and the amount of money to be paid by the man. Witnesses are not required nor parents involved; the marriage need not be registered. By mutual agreement of the partners, this 'marriage' can last from one hour or as long as the partner want. At the end of the agreed time, the temporary 'spouses' part without any formality or divorce ceremony.

The woman, after separation, must abstain from sex for two months to know who actually fathered the child that may result from the acts. This practice is common, especially among tourists, pilgrims, and visitors. With such a provision, one does not have to travel with one's wife to avoid adultery.

A modern Muslim who grew or was educated in America or Europe may contend that mut'ah is just an invention of some weak Iranian or Egyptian men and not an approved practice of Islam. Let us consult on the Islamic authority to lay the matter to rest. Commenting on Surah 4:24, Al-Razi, one of the greatest Islamic thinkers, says:

Mut'ah marriage involved a man hiring a woman for a fixed term in exchange for a specific amount of money for a certain period of time to have sex with her. The scholars agree that this Mut'ah marriage was authorized in the beginning of Islam. It is reported that when the Prophet came to mecca to perform 'Omrah, the women of Mecca dressed up and adorned themselves. The Companion (that is, the followers of Mohammed) complained to the Prophet that they had not had sex for a long time, so he said to them: "enjoy these women".

In the Hadith Mishkat-ul-Masabih, we read:
Ibn Mas'ud reported: We were fighting along with the Messenger of Allah while (our) wives were not with us. We said, 'shall we not undergo castration?' The Holy Prophet forbade us from that. Afterwards, he made lawful Mut'ah Marriage. So all of us married a woman for a fixed term in exchange for a cloth. Afterwards, Abdullah (i.e., servant of Allah, Mohammed) recited: O those who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made for you. (Surah 5:87)
(Mishkat, Book 2, Hadith no.115).

That means the revelation of Allah recorded in that Surah 5:87 quoted in that Hadith came to give a divine approval on Mut’ah. If Allah is the one that gave these instructions through Mohammed, we need to ask if indeed Allah is the same God that reveals Himself in the Bible, or he is the Olodumare that the Yoruba know. When every year foreign journalists complain of prostitution in Mecca during the hajj, it is because they do not understand the divine backing of what goes on. To the Christian, all this automatically nullifies God's clear injunction: "Thou shalt not commit adultery." To a Muslim, such a commandment is vague. Mut’ah makes the words ‘adultery’, ‘fornication’, and ‘prostitution’ very difficult to define. It makes a mockery of the Islamic legal system called Shariah which stipulates that an adulterer or fornicator be executed. If two people are caught in an affair and brought before the Islamic court and they say they were only doing mut’ah, how would the jurists disprove them?




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You just wasted your time to create a thread, When there are Hadith that outrightly forbid mut'ah.

Did u not make a diligent research?

Ali b. AbiTalib reported that Allah's Messenger prohibited on the Day of Khaibar the contracting of temporary marriage with women and the eating of the flesh of domestic asses.

SIRTee15:
I hope U know divinity is the essence of God.
It's a substance and not a person.
So I don't understand where U arrive at God dying in the cross.

If I become a supernatural person and I become powerful. If I give another person my power, does that mean I am now that person? because I don't understand U guys question sometimes.

It was not the son~ it would mean human sacrifice.
It was not the father~because the Father can not die for obvious reason.

If it was neither the Father nor the son that died on the cross, do you mean the figure that died on the cross was just like an empty shell?
God created an empty shell with no essence, inhabit this empty shell at some point, then depart the body at the point of crucifixion?

SIRTee15:
Ok do U now agree I AM is the name of God?

I have no problem with Jesus being the son of God. But if Jesus is not God, then it means the Father sent another being to be killed so He can forgive humanity- father sacrificed his son kind of arrangement.
That looks like human sacrifice to me and it's called paganism. God hates human sacrifice.

Jesus is not another being/existence sent to shed his blood for mankind. Instead, the father put his own divinity inside a prepared body for the work of atonement. He didn't send someone else.

In short

Na God died on the cross?

PROVERBZ:
For instance, your religious books describe Alexander the great as a devout Muslims even though he was recorded to be a homosexual pagan?

Or the claim that anybody that worships or submits to one God before Mohamed was a devout Muslim this includes zoro astrians who we know have nothing to do with Abrahamic religion. Infact, we are told that Mohamed and his successors gave special status to zoro astrains because they only worshiped one God and their families and properties were not destroyed like those of other non Muslims.


How about, the claim that early Christians were Muslims and that Jesus wrote a gospel called the injeel. Islam conveniently claims both have disappeared from the surface of the earth. We constantly find artifacts from civilisations as far back as Sumerians, but nothing on the claims islam ever makes. Would it not ne nice to discover something that can be carbon dated back to those periods with Islamic inscriptions or writings or something.

Also the claim of Mohammed visiting the temple in Jeruslame on a flying horse even though we know for sure that at the time of Mohamed, the temple was only but ruined.

Those this not bother you. The only proof your religion has is that the trinity does not make sense to human understanding which is not really a proof because u don't know what God is like.


I didn't even mentions some of the silly claims like the devil lives in your nose when u sleep or that a Flys wings contains poison and antidotes.
The prophet said alot of silly things in his life time I don't want to even go Into.

The Qur'an does not describe Alexander the Great as a devout Muslim. The reason some think Dhul qurnayn in chapter 18 of the Qur'an is Alexander the Great is because there are stories about Alexander the Great that seem very similar to the story of Dhul qurnayn. But the Qur'an story of Dhul qurnayn predate that particular story of Alexander the Great. So it is most likely the author of the story of Alexander the Great borrowed from the Qur'an and not the other way round.

I don't know where you get the idea that Muslims destroyed or have to destroy the families and properties of people that don't follow Abrahamic faith.
Our belief as a Muslim is that God sent different prophet to different people at different times, not Just prophets that stem out of Abraham. We believe there are other prophets that are not descendants of Abraham.
Cyrus the Great was a Zoroastrian and God called him his messiah in Isaiah 45:1. That should tell you something.

Muslims don't believe Jesus wrote a book. We believe the Injeel was a revelation given to Jesus Christ with which he preached, his disciples might have written it down and most likely Apostle Matthew did write it down.

The first gospel to be written was said to have been written by Mathew in Hebrew/Aramaic and the document is now lost. So it not as if Muslims are making claims that are unfounded. All we have of the Gospel now are anonymously written documents.

if the temple was destroyed did the site of the temple disappear?

No, Islam does not need trinity to be false for validation. It is rather Christianity that need Islam to be false so they can continue with the delusion of a 3-1 God. Or God becoming man/sending his son to die for man sin so he can forgive man.

There is no record of any prophet teaching or preaching a 3-1 God, rather what we have are teachings like these

Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

Isaiah 43:10
You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.

You are the one that should be bothered on where a 3-1 God comes from.
You should be bothered on why God that is against human sacrifice suddenly need the sacrifice of his son to forgive sins.

Is this suppose to be a Joke or what?

With this over reaching your arms must be dragging on the floor by now.

Gabrielshow24:
It's still literal use of "my servant" and you didn't take context into play.

It's still false equivocation anyhow you frame it!

Anything that make you snore and drool at night..

Gabrielshow24:
False equivocation. In this instance, the term "servant" is being interpreted in a straightforward, perhaps negative sense, without considering the broader theological or relational context in which a son can also be seen as a servant to his Father.

U should probably widen your knowledge.

If you do you will know the word translated as my servant there is abdi same word as abd in Arabic.

Gabrielshow24:
That's my point, why will your supposed all knowing and all powerful God pray?

And who does he pray to?🤨

That's one of the errors in your conceptualization of God; "Your prophet says Allah prays" 👀

Why not bring reference?

Or you are just going to keep making things up?

If Una don go learn Islam from David wood and Sam shamoun university, next thing is to come online to embarrass yourself..

Gabrielshow24:
You seem to forget "your Allah prays👀"

Also stop with the sugar coating.
You don't address your God(Allah) as a Father and again Allah said he is Father to no one!!!

Stop with the lies.
Allah as a Father is only but an expression, you are slaves of Allah!

Does this resemble the christian God or Allah as used by Arab christians👀?

You are a Joke bro.

Allah is the creator of Heavens and Earth. He owns everything. Who is Allah going to pray to?

You are the one that worship a being that is lacking in knowledge and offer prayers to another higher being so don't drag us Muslims into your confusion...you should own your confusion with your full chest.

Of course I'm a slave of God. Is that suppose to shame me or what?

See who else is described as servant of God below!
Your God is described as a servant of another being, the joke is on you!

Mat 12:18
Here is my servant whom I have chosen, the one I love, in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will proclaim justice to the nations.

Guy tell us wetin e mean that God is father to you Christians or you can just find somewhere go sit down!

Gabrielshow24:
This is rather childish.
Identities are different!

Two people can have the same names but their characteristics are different.

So an Arab christian calling Allah has an underlying concept or identity of fatherhood unlike a Muslim with a concept of slavery.

Well, as a Muslim we are not allowed to call God 'father', Even though we understand the term "Father" for God is a metaphorical expression that conveys creator, sustainer and provider, and Yes Allah indeed describe himself in such manner, so Allah is like a Father to Us, except if the term "Father" for God meant something different to you Christians. You can educate me on what God as Father mean for Christians.

We acknowledge that the Jews indeed used and they still using the term but some group of people bastardise the term, they turn God to a 3 in 1 Father, son and a spooky spirit... They make God have a literal begotten son and all sort of blasphemous hogwash.

So the term 'Father' for God has been abrogated for us more like how the term 'Baal' was abrogated in Hosea 2:16.

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NairaLTQ:
I received a ban responding to your post but I have the screenshot here

Are you telling me you got banned for typing load of trash that make no sense?

Unfortunately for you guys again the correct pronunciation of YHWH is lost and God did not reveal himself as YHWH to Abraham.

TenQ:
Unfortunately for you

Allah is not God. He is Hubal aka Baal, the chief idol of the Kaaba. The upgraded version of the God of Mohammed's father Abdullah!


The name of the God of Abraham and Moses and David is YHWH: Is Allah's name also YHWH?

The God of Abraham and Moses and David is their Father: is Allah the Father of Mohammed?

Unfortunately for you.

By your assertion, you are implying all Arab Christians both pre-Islam and post are also worshipping Hubal aka Baal whatever that nonsense means.

You just want to throw your fellow Christian under the bus to score cheap point??

Make Una try dey apply common sense small small na!

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Lmk if that works for u

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SIRTee15:
So what's the relevance of Muhammed and the book he brought, if I can continue to follow the old ways and still be saved?

If the old ways are still relevant, what then is the usefulness of Muhammed?

Prophet Muhammad was sent as a prophet to all of mankind, the fact that salvation includes genuine Jews and Christians of all ages does not in anyway invalidates the message of Islam. It only shows how compassionate God is.

SIRTee15:
So in effect U saying it's ok according to the Quran for Jews and Christians to continue using the gospel and Torah respectively if they reject Muhammed as a prophet.

Do you find it unjust that God does not want to throw into hell Jews and Christians that are genuinely following ways He himself sent guidance for?

SIRTee15:
U guys are setting a dangerous precedence with your justification of Jewish rejection of the injeel.

The injeel was sent to the Jews and actually corrected the Torah. But Jews continue to use an out of date book for guidance and Allah is saying he's ok with it.

Not only did Allah approved a defective book for guidance and judgement; Allah also undermined the authority of one his prophet by accepting the idea of people rejecting prophets sent to them.

That's what it looks like when he tells Jews to judge by the Torah and not the injeel. Allah embraced the decision of Jews to reject the injeel rather than reprimanding them.

The injeel was meant to make lawful for them some of the things that were previously unlawful, either some things they made unlawful for themselves or some things God made unlawful previously like not keeping the Sabbath. And to provide more commentary on the laws of the Torah. So the injeel was just an extension of the Torah.

Well, It is not just Black and white, there are gray areas in between. The fact is there are still Jews and Christians till today and God indeed sent down scriptures to that effect.. so if there are Jews and Unitarian Christians till today that are following their religion because that is the way they truly find convincing then I believe they are the ones their truth will benefit as described Q5:117-119

Q5:119
God will say, “Today, the truthful will benefit from their truthfulness. They will have Gardens with flowing rivers, where they will abide forever. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. That is the supreme triumph!”

SIRTee15:
Why then do U think Jews will embrace the Quran when they were not punished for rejecting the injeel?
Instead they got the nod from Allah to continue judging with the tawrat.

And Why do U think Christians won't jump on that loop hole created by Allah and also reject Muhammed and hold onto the gospel?

If the issue is all scripture sent by Allah talked about oneness of God, then all I need to do is become a Unitarian Christian and continue with my gospel. I have no business with the Quran.

If anyone intentionally want to reject the message of Islam despite knowing that prophet Muhammad is a true prophet of God by choosing to be Jew, Christian or whatever then they should be ready to face the consequences, They are the real Kuffar. God can not be deceived.

SIRTee15:
According to Muslims, every Prophet sent to mankind came with a revelation that supersede the previous revelations brought by past prophets.
This mean believers must accept the final revelation sent to them until another revelation comes from Allah's messenger.

At least, this is the argument presented by Muhammed to the Jews and Christians when asked why they should follow him.


Muhammed argued since he was the final messenger of Allah, all believers of Allah must abandon their previous books and embrace the Quran.

However, when this argument is scrutinized and critically examined in the Quran itself, it becomes problematic and falls apart.

According to Muslims, Jesus was a messenger of Allah sent to the Jews with a revelation called the injil. This meant Jews during the time of Jesus were meant to follow the injil. Jews after the era of Jesus prior to revelation of Quran were also expected to follow the injil.


Then in the footsteps of the prophets, We sent Jesus, son of Mary, confirming the Torah revealed before him. And We gave him the Gospel containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah—a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing.
Quran 5.46

This shows the injeel supersede the torah for guidance and since Jesus was sent to the Jews, they were expected to be dependent on the INJEEL FOR GUIDANCE- NOT THE TORAH prior to Muhammed appearing on stage.

However, what we find in the Quran is Allah telling the Jews to use the torah for guidance. Allah confirmed in the Quran that the Jews should judge by the Torah- a book that should have been superseded by the Injeel.

But how is it that they come to you for judgement while they have the Torah, in which is the judgement of Allah? Then they turn away, [even] after that; but those are not [in fact] believers.
Quran 5.43
Indeed, We revealed the Torah, containing guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, made judgments for Jews. So too did the rabbis and scholars judge according to Allah’s Book, with which they were entrusted and of which they were made keepers. So do not fear the people; fear Me! Nor trade my revelations for a fleeting gain. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the disbelievers.
5.44

Now if we harmonise the above Quranic verses, what we deduce is the ff:
The Quran says Jesus was a legitimate prophet to the Jews and he brought the injeel for guidance.
Yet same Quran orders the Jews to retain their dependence on the Torah and not the injeel.
Therefore the Quran contradict itself in denying the supremacy of the injeel over the Torah.

That the Jews rejected Jesus as a prophet or Messiah should not be a reason why Allah would tell them to continue to use the Torah. If the Jews erred by rejecting injeel, should Allah approve such action for the Jews?

The Quran shouldnt validate such error but actually correct them by referring them back to the injeel for guidance.
Otherwise Allah would be seen as approving disobedience of his word and undermining the authority of one of the mighty prophets sent to the Jews.

This presents Allah as either a forgetful God or confused deity who seem contradict his own words or doesnt have adequate insight into his commandments OR takes his commandment with levity.

Muslims are welcomed to defend their Allah and present their case. Pls understand the argument b4 rushing to type. This is a highly cerebral and intellectual theological insight.


The question is this: WHY DID ALLAH TELL THE JEWS TO USE THE TORAH FOR GUIDANCE AND NOT THE INJEEL WHEN THE INJEEL WAS SENT TO THE JEWS AND WAS A REVELATION AFTER THE TORAH?

In as much as prophets came with messages that supersede the previous revelation. The core message of their revelations which is the most important is always believe in God and all your worship should be directed to God and they (the prophets) are just messengers and servants of God. This message was never abrogated and will never be abrogated.

Duet 6:4
Hear, O Israel, The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the ONLY TRUE God, and Jesus Christ, whom YOU HAVE SENT.

Q 21:25
We never sent a messenger before you ˹O Prophet˺ without revealing to him: “There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Me, so worship Me ˹alone˺.

For Jews that live after Jesus Christ and Prophet Muhammad, the most important thing is do they still hold to the most basic tenet 'Believe in one God and directing all their worship to God' and do they remain Jew base on the fact that that is the only way they find convincing and not that they reject the message of the last 2 prophets out of pride and arrogance or worldly gains.

For Christians the most important thing is believing in one true God and Jesus as the messanger of God and are they Christians because that is the way they truly find convincing and they are not just following man-made doctrines and not that they reject the message of the last prophet out of arrogance or because of worldly gains. You can check Qur'an 5:117 till the end of the chapter for context.



Q2:62
Indeed, the believers, Jews, Christians, and Sabians—whoever ˹truly˺ believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good will have their reward with their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor will they grieve.

Q5:48
We have revealed to you this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences.

This mancity downfall is getting comical now.

At least all their fake fans will disperse now

malali:
Nlfpmod

Bigot Alert

Repeat Violations 2,3 and 7.

Please ban and make nairaland civil again

On thread like this, you will just have to leave them and let them masturbate on the thread all they want...

Damn!!

We can't be dropping point against Fulham..

MaxInDHouse:
Next time learn to have manners i don't insult because i know it doesn't speak well of a true believer but when talking about errors authors of your Quran has no right to dabble into the history of Israelites claiming what the Israelites penned down in their own scriptures is wrong!

Imagine, you are speaking about manners?
U don't insult? Really, maybe you should go back to our conversation on this thread and see who was the first to start throwing insults around.

You can believe whatever you want to believe about the errors in the Qur'an. I can't have a conversation with a dishonest fellow.

You have proven yourself to be very dishonest and all those smiling emojis are just gimmicks.

If you are not daft, you will know I can do the same with ur Bible. You use your common sense to know Luke calling Elizabeth daughter of Aaron does not mean she is literally a daughter of Aaron but applying same common sense to the Qur'an is where you draw the line.