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geoworldedu:
What is your point here exactly?

My point, my dear, is that they are describing what happened in THIS universe, the universe after the "great bang". They are NOT describing a time before gravity and everything changed.

Anyway now you know the book is fantasy and not meant to be taken seriously. It was probably built upon a short story of fantasy/science fiction that the writer then expanded upon. It can probably be made into a movie somehow - 4-story high Yhwh living on earth for billions of years. That's a looong time to live on earth. I wonder what he was doing all that time

geoworldedu:
Your problem once again is that you didn't read the book and you are just drawing conclusions very fast. Many happenings of the past where brought back into our present world without the need of the gods to make them happen. And Otem said so in his book. All these gods in the homosapiens era didn't manifest one bit of what they did in the past world. They were just as natural as possible but people talk about their deeds of the past world as if they are done in our present world here. Gravity is one of it. When the new world came about, all things happened naturally and not by any gods. Otem said that. He said everything in this present world are natural and not by the gods or past beings. You didn't read.

Isn't the present world the the world after the "great bang" which happened 13.8 billion years ago? Are they describing happenings b4 that? Didn't Earthus give birth to Homo erectus only 200,000 years ago. Isn't that the time they narrated she put force into the earth to induce gravity. But every massive body has gravity. Who put their forces into them??

geoworldedu:
You only put up human existence, rather than universe existence. According to Otem and science, the universe has existed billions of years back. So what are you even saying that doesn't make any sense. Let me Google the age of the universe first. Oga, I just did. Check it out in the image below and stop being ignorant.

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He's sending me what I already sent him.
This tells me you haven't been looking at my screenshots. I posted this below to you sometime ago. It clearly shows the age of the
universe as 13.8 billion.

By the way Otem has no idea what a billion truly is. That's why he throws billions around everywhere. See how a million compares to a million below.

By the way, I KNOW by now you know the book is fantasy. You're just trolling but that's fine

geoworldedu:
Everything you spoke here doesn't even make sense. Imagine, you wanted the book of universal history to start from Israel, USA or

It shouldn't start and end so abruptly all on NL is the point, and Otem disappear - someone that was sent by "Gods of science" to reveal the truth!

By the way, you have no idea how truly huge a billion is. You CANNOT count to a billion in 3 lifetimes if ALL you do all your life is count!

geoworldedu:
Everything you spoke here doesn't even make sense. Imagine, you wanted the book of universal history to start from Israel, USA or Germany before you can accept it. So you wanted the platform of X formerly twitter, Tiktok or Facebook to be the first place the knowledge will come to rather than Nairaland. So that's how you are so much dominated psychologically that you don't expect anything good from an African person.

Also you spoke of gravity of billions or millions of years ago, which was the past world gravity when we already have another world starting up thousands of years ago after the homo erectuses and you didn't realise that a change has happened to a lot of natural things. If there can be evolutions happening to homos from Erectus to Sapiens, so you think in your wildest imagination that evolution wouldn't happen to natural things too? Somebody like you will not believe it if they had told you that the whole continents were together at first before they started to break apart. Do you know why I love the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY? It will first tell you how it was before and later tell you how and when it changed. I will show you exactly when gravity related stuffs changed and they are all from the GREAT BOOK

You need a coach aje

It would indeed have been good (not great) SCIENCE FICTION / FANTASY book if it were a bit more scientific.

Things have to at least make sense, don't you agree? Unless they are total fantasy. Gravity is simply a consequence of the curvature of spacetime around massive objects (see below). If Otem knew this he'd have said Earthus curved the spacetime around her and that'd have been more scientifically acceptable.
No, he wasn't describing things that happened billions of years ago. He was describing things that happened when Earthus gave birth to homo sapien after she was sexed - 200K years ago! There is no time for gravity to change to a force put in the ground by Earthus! (I'm surprised he doesn't have Nigerianus!)🤣

If you want a detailed science fiction set 50000 yrars out (that actually tallies totally with science), go and read Isaac Asimov's Foundation. You'd swear everything in it happened for real. Otem's book is, frankly, childish and NOT worth discussing even as Science Fiction. Just go and actually read the book. Pure childish nonsense. Yahweh came to earth as 4-story building high and stayed for billions of years on earth then came back as man and died. See how he died below.🤣😂

You people know how to make someone laugh!😂
This is someone that wrote his poll numbers in a hotel room!

geoworldedu:
The problems you have especially is that you didn't realise that Otem spoke about a lot of changes made to the universe at different period of time. You didn't read the book well. We call people like you half-baked. You read 1/1000 and then run away kabakaba. You thought that the position of the visible light rays of billions of years back is the same as what we have today? Otem explained many activities done in hiding inside other spectra of light that were not in the visible light rays. Abeg tell me all these timelines revealed to us today, how many of them were done in other realms aside the visible light rays you know about now? None. You need sound deep knowledge to really counter Otem bros. He's far beyond this time. Read about Nimshi here, doing things in other rays that are not visible light. Which year did science discover radio waves and other waves that they want to bring timeline on that? Or you think earth is only about the visible light rays?

Nimshi 3 : 1 - 5


1. And Nymphidis and Largas began to hunt for Nimshi, for he has spurred up some people against them.
2. And Nymphidis sent through Melchizedek, saying, tell my people that whoever shall get hold of Nimshi shall be rewarded with a great reward of my paradise. And such one shall I put in my book of remembrance and his name shall not be forgotten forever in this world and in the world to come.
3. And a thorough hunting began for Nimshi.
4. And when some saw him to capture him, he entered into the invisible rays again and they did not find him.
5. And Nimshi said, did your lord not tell you that he sees the whole world all at once? Now let him come and capture me himself if he could.

What are the timelines science has given us about happenings in the other rays apart from those in the invisible light rays? None.

What are the histories science has given us in the microscopic world or universe? None.

Abi all those other rays were only invented yesterday?

This is simply unbelievable!😅
I wouldn't believe a sane person actually believes this if I weren't witnessing it myself!
So why do you think Otem disappeared? The "Gods of science" sent him to enlighten the world and he only did it on a forum someone else created in Nigeria!

See, Otem was all about science, except he has very limited scientific education. The story is full of things that are not consistent with science. I gave you an example of Otem saying Earthus put a force in earth to pull things back to it. He's not educated enough to know that Einstein determined long ago that's not how gravity works. There is no force in earth pulling anything down!😅 Also he clearly said gigantic humans appeared after the "great bang" - they resulted from it. Pure childish stupidity. Even Otem himself must be bemused someone actually believes the story as something that happened.
Even the names: Earthus is earth, Aferk is Africa, then u have Zeusus, Chukwu, Olorun, Visnu, Shiva, as among the proper names of the "thousands of gods". Then you have Yoruba and Igbo language mixed in

My friend, an imaginative irreligious someone was having fun. Read the work for entertainment just as you would read any novel or fairy tale.
Read it for escapism, to escape the mundane, everyday life. It is a FAIRY TALE!!!😅

geoworldedu:
There are many homos, homo sapiens existed just around 200, 000 years and these were not created by the first beings.

Homo Sapiens are homos and nothing near homos appeared after the big bang. No homos appeared even 3 million years ago. Life was microscopic for a very long time.
But really doesn't it amaze you what people would believe. Suppose Otem was someone with scientific education and made his stories match perfectly with science, just imagine how many disciples he'd have. Someone who told a story that is entirely in words, with absolutely no real world backing!

geoworldedu:
The first homo, not the first homosapiens. If you want me to post how the first homosapiens were made, I can help you with that.

Please, what is the difference?

geoworldedu:
The first homo, not the first homosapiens. If you want me to post how the first homosapiens were made, I can help you with that.

This is just unbelievable. Thus teaches me that people will believe anything. Your job is to just say it!

See circled below, did any non-microscopic being appear from the big bang?

Is earth's gravitational pull a result of some force buried inside the earth.

PURE NONSENSE and a sane person is believing it!😅

geoworldedu:
This is why I always tell people to settle down well to read a book, but no, hurry hurry. They want to go and enjoy skits on tiktok, Facebook, YouTube. Pitiably they will read the book halfway and start to constitute nuisance everywhere.

Can't you sit still and read a book for at least one hour so you won't be making mockery of yourself this way? Otem said Yahweh and his brothers came to the earth billions of years ago but didn't start to create any physical homo until millions of years back. You can't read and when you get explanations you still can't understand. Na wa for some people o

Wow! Just WOW!! It's amazing what people will believe.
Below is how the first man was created according to Otem!

geoworldedu:
I went there oga, I didn't see anything like defeat here na. You can lie for Africa sha. So what did Otem say that contradicted what I've been telling you here?

R U ok at all?
Did you read this below?
Did you read where he said Gods could not come to earth physically yet came.
You didn't read anything at all.

geoworldedu:
Let me use your timeline diagram to help you explain what Otem wrote.

That black circle below is when Yahweh and all other first being got created. They don't belong to any of the homos up there. They were called gods. As a matter of fact, they were the ones who later created the homos after billions of years. They have always been when the big bang happened. They came with the big bang. Now the second circle up there was the time when the gods different homos that you were showing me in your timeline. The homos were just millions of years back, not billions, unlike the first being which are not in the timeline. Otem is many steps ahead of science, but science will eventually get there.

This is just ridiculous!😅
Arguing something Otem already argued and was defeated.
Here's the thread. Good read it yourself:

https://www.nairaland.com/5558432/what-difference-god-lord/12#84588520

geoworldedu:
You only put up human existence, rather than universe existence. According to Otem and science, the universe has existed billions of years back. So what are you even saying that doesn't make any sense. Let me Google the age of the universe first. Oga, I just did. Check it out in the image below and stop being ignorant.

See timeline of life in the universe (UNIVERSE!) below

geoworldedu:
Universe didn't begin with humans. Universe is not centred on humans.

I know this is pure madness but I'm just induging myself.
You can't be totally science illiterate like Otem.
So look at the statements below. Did gigantic humans or gigantic anything appear after the "great bang" (as Otem puts it, knowing fully well it is called "big bang").
See timeline of life below.
Also look at all the circled.
This proves that no matter how crazy something someone makes up, some people will believe it!

Stephen0mozzy:
Soon, everybody go sofri buy PS5 make we rest for football. Too many "unnecessary" tweaks that's ruining the beautiful game.

Dem dey slap AI put for everything and everywhere.

Did you watch the video? It is very good. No more arguments about who touched the ball or where the ball was

Ibehchizzy:
bro be serious 2k rents gets you studio sized rooms in LA

See below

Ibadanfarmroad:
lol, this guy makes over 40k dollars monthly from Spotify only, not to talk of YouTube, Apple Music and other platforms before we start talking of endorsements and appearance fees.

However, my Google below says he's LYING!

AbosedeFalade:
No, even though in his case, he's lying, it doesn't mean that there are no apartments that cost 12,000 or more monthly in LA. I live in LA myself.

Of course there are the Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates but he's not one of them. Typical new arrival from Naija doesn't waste money.

Ibehchizzy:
bro be serious 2k rents gets you studio sized rooms in LA

Na lie. I'll post you real estate listings

AbosedeFalade:
The only message he wanted to pass on and brag about is that he pays $12,000 monthly for rent in LA, nothing more. It's all about attention seeking.

And na LIE!
He forgets we have Google. See below

masterfactor:
What is the United States of America looking for in the strait of homuz

Genius, If someone were harassing cars on a highway what would anyone be looking for reporting them or trying to stop them??

If America wants to stop these kidnappings they can. But how does it benefit them?

Lanretoye:
One is houseboy and the other is a man in charge

More like they both KNOW that without a certain person NDC (like LP) is nothing, and one of them is not very happy about it!

ozo13:
my point is clear , so also ur own. He isn't going to apologize

Depending on the legal advice ge gets, he may or may not

ozo13:
Hahaha telling a lawyer to apologize.hehehehe.wake me up when he chose that path.

Meaning what? Do u see any lawyer have a case and not hire a lawyer?
The first thing Kenneth will do is hire a lawyer

Kindledlight:
You and that your goggle is doing and saying nonsense.

You don ever see where Tinubu dress like that before??

I thought you swore never to reply again
A picture that has been on NL on several threads since 2015, you are the ONLY one...
What is Tinubu wearing in this photo below?

Kindledlight:
See I’m not saying it’s a bad thing for Tinubu bowing to you but what I’m saying is that the particular picture you posted that I quoted was not Tinubu.

Can’t you just take correction and move on.

Btw I won’t reply you again.

Of course you won't reply because you know you're talking nonsense.😅
See below

Secretbloodline:
I don't have a West African mother. My maternal haplagroup is M1a1a haplagroup. The West African maternal haplagroups are L1, L2 and L3. I have no Trans Atlantic Slave Trade genetic markers which means we are not related except through the Black Box. Now to those of you whose bloodline was severed by rape of your paternal grandmother and your mother's lineage is your only claim to West Africa, that's not my issue. My identity is clear and it is yours that is murky. My knowledge of self is solid.

I'm honestly beginning to believe we're dealing with some type of mental illness here. From Michelle Obama is a man, to Creoles have no West African blood, to no moon landing, to earth is flat, to Prince Hall was gay, etc. Guy, I'd suggest you seek therapy. There's just too much to unpack

Kindledlight:
The point is that you posted a fake picture of Tunde Bakare as Tinubu bowing to Late Buhari.

Go to Google and type in "Tinubu bowing to Buhari" and come tell us what photo pops up more than any other. We are to believe you over our own eyes and Google!

But you people really have a warped sense of things. So being pompous and self-important is what makes one great?? Wow!
I think it is a cultural thing - too many mushroom obas

Secretbloodline:
European" is a geographic, political, and cultural identity based on origin, citizenship, or residency, whereas "white" is a socially constructed racial category.

So is West Africa. " Black" is socially constructed racial category. So WHY do you shamefully try to erase your West African mothers

AI is pre programmed just like you. The more you push the Black Box the more you promote the White Box.

Google has no answer. They show you the sources of answers they provide. See if you can see a reputable source that says your Creole people are from a bunch of "tan" people from Europe!😅[/quote]

Secretbloodline:
European" is a geographic, political, and cultural identity based on origin, citizenship, or residency, whereas "white" is a socially constructed racial category.

Ser below. Question asked and answer given included.
See if there is any way you can ask the question to produce "tan" as the answer

Richtaiwo:
These are the opposition Tinubu sees as actual opposition, not this Peter Obi and his overgrown puppies jumping up and down like confused kangaroos.

If you really believe this, don't post it. Just post to boost Obi so he can take votes from them. Unless you don't really believe it