₦airaland Forum

Rugaria:
Oh, you are counting on me turning the opposite cheek as usual? While you turn genocide into a national pastime? The nerve..

Don't worry.

We were only concerned that ipob was pretending to be pursuing a legitimate struggle, but since we agree that it's just a fraudulent organisation driven by hate and political frustration then we are on the same page.

Rugaria:
You can't claim to have vanquished someone who actually lives better than you! Very easy to grasp but then you are nothing but a a quota system upstart... Son, goan drink fradununu...

You are severely deluded to think you live better than anyone.

Is it by living and trading knee deep in bacteria filled gutter water?

Or living as an endangered species that are attacked, rejected and killed everywhere you go from Ghana to South Africa to India?

Or is it by squeezing yourselves into your escape buses EVERY NIGHT to stand for 12 hours only to get to your northern dream destination to sell rat killer & escape poverty at home after chest beating by day?

It should otherwise be easy to realise your delusion but that would be expecting too much from a vanquished Osu.

Stop sounding like a joke please.

Rugaria:
You used to claim the agitation was against fulani, but with atiku, that argeument became untainable.... You said it was because the igbo hates everyone else but the igbos, the facts are in short supply for this one now.. Agitation will continue until hatred ends.. Hate just met hate.

I thought you wanted to deny the obvious fact that the fraudulent ipob agitation was a function of hate and blackmail?

Go and rest.

olisaEze:
I answered ur questions accordingly and asked some of mine. Suggesting that the IPOB speaks for any geo-political zone is a very wrong assumption. Recently Abubakar Shekau spoke against the death sentence of an activist in Kano, will it be right to say Kano state has lost all political goodwill because boko haram speaks for them? This is Nigeria, everyone insults their political opponents, it’s part of the Nigerian style of politics. Tinubu has previously insulted PMB, El’rufai has insulted Tinubu, PMB has insulted Tinubu, Oshiomole has insulted Ize-Iyamu, the list is endless. The SW has not always voted in alignment with the North, and has been vocal against them since '92. What I find incredible is the fact that the political banter of SEners should be held against them when it’s not the case across board!

1.You're lying. Boko Haram has never spoken for Kano State, the state whose citizens it has bombed and killed in the recent past even in their sacred mosque? You're wrong.

2. I am not talking of interpersonal insults between politicians but general insults against entire ethnic groups which is IPOBs stock in trade.

It is the height of foolishness to be engaging in insults and throwing mud when you know you will eventually require the political support of those you attack. If you insist, then ensure you have the political muscle to achieve your political objectives without their support. Anything else is cutting your nose to spite your face and that's why igbos are the the bottom of the political food chain today.

Rugaria:
They also supported shagari, yardua, abiola, atiku etc at a point.. How many igbos have you supported? Kalu idika kalu, chu okongwu, Ebutu Ukiwe, Omar Sanda Nwachukwu, Okadigbo, Okorocha, Nzeribe, Iwuanyanwu....., Do I continue? All sorts of igbos are there. The igbos have been supportive of your types, how many igbos have your type supported?
Buhari has two years to go and he will go... The igbos will still be here long after he is gone from Abuja and long after he is here no more... Nothing you nor the daurra disaster can do about this..

Derail attempt failure.

What does the scam IPOB agitation have to do with whoever I support? It's good you're admitting that the agitation is simply out of hatred for President Buhari. Well, he will continue to rule your fathers and hand over to his successor in the APC to continue his legacy no matter how hard you wail.

IPOB agitation is a scam and its exposed for everyone to see.

Rugaria:
What will your security agent really do that they haven't done? Countless massacres? You have been on it... Progroms? You have tried your best! First black on black genocide in Africa that gave the hutus, the Charles Taylors, Jonas Savimbis, Yommie Johnsons and the supporters of APC the template they used to retard Africas peaceful growth? You invented that... In case you don't know, your uncle's actually "shot at everything that moved" in Biafra while flattening every structure... But guess what? It's the "Victor's" that are now looking like the "vanquished"... You can't squash the spirit bro, una too small..

Which spirit? Spirit of fraud? Don't flatter yourself.

Vanquished 5% feeling funky yet wailing for 50 years and counting.

They will do what ought to have already been done before now, I just hope you're not part of the collateral damage.

Rossikk:
Excellent point. A genuine secessionist group from the south of Nigeria would have used the Jonathan presidency as an opportunity and platform to really push their secessionist agenda, since, in theory at least, a southern-led administration would be far more sympathetic to their cause.

Instead we saw tepid to no agitation, only for their secessionist zeal to be aroused sharply in the subsequent, less friendly administration.

Very dodgy.

It's so obvious. Why do you think the same people hailing ipob secessionists today and pretending to be tired of Nigeria were campaigning for AdaObi to rule a united Nigeria just last year. They were atikulating for another 8 years of a united Nigeria and forgot Biafrauud until they lost again. Nobody is fooled by their watery excuses.

It is times like this that I miss Obasanjo. I hope the President acts decisively on this matter and doesn't pussy foot.

Rugaria:
Ojukwu also fought for one Nigeria at a point..., none of your leaders ever worked for one Nigeria more than Zik who was forced into Biafra at a point too. So what's your point?You ever bludering lot turned the simple running of a state into rocket science. Nicknamed a coup "igbo coup" and have since been on a killing spree. Vandals! all of them!Those under attack have to react and Nigeria will continue to move in circles.. That where we are..

Was Ojukwu not serving Nigeria at that point?

So Jonathan was running a perfect country when Kanu was agitating for one Nigeria?

My point is that the Biafrauud agitation is nothing but a scam and blackmail tool because igbos never sought secession under Jonathan that would easily have granted a referendum to them.

You only fool yourself. Continue reacting and I hope security agents will stop treating your fascist, hate driven, hypocritical movement with kid gloves.

Video of Nnamdi Kanu Agitating for Nigerian Unity Under Jonathan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKqSJeHgRo

horsepower102:
IPOB has been known since 2013. Nnamdi Kanu Hated and called GEJ names. He even ordered IPOB members to boycott 2015 elections.

He came to Aba and umuahia and had multiple rallies back in 2014.

I don’t know what you people gain by lying.

So Nigeria was Heaven on Earth from 2010 - 2014?

Did Nnamdi Kanu not campaign for ONE NIGERIA under Jonathan?

You can only fool yourselves. IPOBs agitation really started the same time Niger Deltans formed LNC (Lower Niger Congress) as an effect of the agony and pain of Jonathan's defeat. The only difference was that while the SS soon embraced reality and moved on, the ipob never did.

The Federal forces need to totally neutralize this fraudulent, evil, fascist terrorist organisation.

You have spoken the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

It's exactly why some of us can't be fooled with their Biafrauud blackmail.

Thank God Nigerians are wisening up.

olisaEze:
3: Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen have been wrecking havoc on the whole nation much worse than what the IPOB are doing. Not to forget all the riots & Friday pogroms orchestrated against the SEners and Christian SWners in the North. But it didn’t stop the rest zones from voting for PMB. Why should IPOB that still hasn’t attacked anyone be an issue in denying d SE a chance when it wasn’t an issue with PMB?

I hope you've seen this.

olisaEze:
1: The SouthWest has always had a candidate in all Presidential elections from '99. In fact, the two major parties in '99 fielded only SW'ners as candidates to compensate for MKO. Don’t you think justice has been done to their cause enough?

2: The APC as a party wasn’t formed to subjugate any part of the country, there is no legitimacy or justice in acting like conquerors over the vanquished in a democracy. Moreover, the North as one voting block is not always d case as the NW & NE have not always aligned to give block votes until PMB. So that d North will give block votes to the SW in 2023 in reciprocity is still not a sure banker.

3: Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen have been wrecking havoc on the whole nation much worse than what the IPOB are doing. Not to forget all the riots & Friday pogroms orchestrated against the SEners and Christian SWners in the North. But it didn’t stop the rest zones from voting for PMB. Why should IPOB that still hasn’t attacked anyone be an issue in denying d SE a chance when it wasn’t an issue with PMB?

You cannot answer my questions with questions and seriously expect a response.

You must understand that the SE lacks any political goodwill to expect or demands any political favours from those it has endlessly insulted, attacked, and rejected.

I'll refer you to my posts on this issue.

https://www.nairaland.com/6071641/vote-southeast-presidency/3#93136127

Answer my questions accordingly and I'll do the same.

plessis:
Just as your paedophile prophet ran away from mecca when he was chased by little Children holding penknives.

Your headache.

olisaEze:
I don’t understand

1. Moghalu contested alongside other Nigerians in 2019. So did Ojukwu & Orji Kalu in past elections. Where is the justice in now asking everyone to step down?

2. The APC is a North-SW alliance. The North has run its tenure. How can you then deny the SW its legitimate turn in the party it helped form? And you think the North will support such injustice & betray the support & goodwillof the SW? Never. Where is the justice?

3. How can you possibly demand support from the rest of the country when IPOB is still throwing insults at other Nigerians & endlessly attacking the "Zoo" with the support of many in the SE? Where is the justice?

SLAP44:
Big deal, if you are sure you can convict them, why shoot them?

For 1 year and six months, you couldn't convict Nnamdi Kanu, what a shame of a country.

Wrong again.

Nnamdi Cownu cowardly fled before his next court appearance with his tail in between his legs.

What a shame of a "fighter" & to a struggle.

Marine54:
I won't answer you ! Cause you don't the implication of what Nigerian security agents has done today.

You don't have an answer, don't flatter yourself.

May their souls rest in peace.

May the rest be wiser.

SLAP44:
Typical zoo language

Too bad you're stuck in the cage

Marine54:
Shut up! You don't understand what is roles of engagement in international policing. You don't kill armless person or group , no matter what !. Go and read about it...

You keep quiet.

Which rules of engagement in international policing do the US Police Departments use in arresting unarmed black suspects that results in death fatality figures higher than anything ipob has ever recorded?

Is it not right and sensible to then obey the law especially knowing you're a proscribed ipob endangered specie like the typical black man is endangered on American streets?

If you like continue with "stronghead" and don't stop looking for trouble.

SLAP44:
Prisoners are convicted people and therefore your argument is irrelevant. IPOB members are doing what is right and nobody has the right to shoot them. We can continue to inflame this country, one day we will see where we have gotten to.

IPOB terrorists are criminal suspects that would earn a conviction if tried in court based on our current laws. I hope you know the treason against the state they're engaged in attracts the death penalty?

As a seemingly educated and enlightened man, I expect you to guide and advise them to desist from their treasonous acts to save their lives, instead of encouraging them to continue in clear illegality, risking their young lives from the safety of your comfort.

PROUDIGBO:
There’s no end to your unfeeling and wicked comments!? You see evil and don’t wanna condemn it because the victims are the Igbo ‘nyamuree’ you despise passionately!

Engaging in ‘treasonous...secessionist’ my black arse! Later now you will deny you lot are preventing Ndigbo from leaving your killing field called ‘one Nigeria’!

Wrong.

1. I will comment the same way about the neutralisation of any other terrorist or enemy of the state. There is nothing wicked or hateful about my comment.

2.You're free to leave but you must use the right channels to secede. Nobody can stop you if you do.

However, you need the support of other regions representatives to amend the constitution to allow a referendum and make secession legal. Right now it is illegal and unconstitutional.

In other words, whether secession or Presidency, you must work to earn the support of others. You must end that insultive, blackmailing habit and build bridges.

SLAP44:
It's in their human rights to peacefully assemble (freedom of association)

It's also in their human rights to seek for peaceful means to secede and become a nation according to international charter.

Which sticks, did they carry sticks when they were holding meetings or after their members were shot? If they didn't defend themselves, the body count might be higher.

Why don't we then release all prisoners since we are violating their freedom of association? Don't they have human rights?

Their gathering was illegal and a gross violation of an existing federal proscription order.

P. S. Any signed international charter is subject to our constitution which doesn't provide for secession and is the SUPREME law of the land.

helinues:
Just imagine the heart of a man...

...and that's how in less than 2 minutes, between the needy and the mocker, the person filled with hate becomes clear.

SLAP44:
And Instead of opening threads to call for the arrest of the army and police for killing people holding a peaceful assembly, you are opening threads against Kanu and the victims? That's why we want out of this useless country, because of people like you with upside down reasoning.

What offence did the victims commit according to the constitution of the zoo?

1.Violating a proscription order by having an illegal gathering.

2.Engaging in treasonous secessionist activities.

3.Attacking federal security agents with weaponized sticks (and the stupidity therein).

kingzizzy:
When will your security forces turn their guns on armed groups like killer herdsmen and boko haram rather than unarmed IPOB?

They are already doing that to all terrorists, killer herdsmen, Boko Haram and stick wielding IPOB alike.

olisaEze:
In the first place, why should anyone that supports equity and justice want to zone the presidency to the SW again?

Because it is pure lack of equity and justice that will make anyone ask for others to not run in a general election, when that person has participated in every general election since 1999.

When will the SE intelligentsia intervene to save these misguided youths? Sad.

May their souls rest in peace.

comos:
it is either SE get the APC presidential ticket or they will support a Northern PDP candidate.

APC doesn't need 5% support. Trust me.

So you can take your blackmail back to Onitsha Main Market. Nobody is gifting you APC'S ticket.