₦airaland Forum

Anago55:
. Yorubas did worst in 1999 and 2000, You remember oso Abiola that you guys use to taunt igbos here? yorubas even killed many Nigerians through the militia group (OPC)

they even floated regional radio to help propagate their hatred for the country then. we igbos are only learning from the yorubas. whatever we have done here, yorubas did it in ten folds

Very untrue. You're conversing with someone who was very politically conscious even at the time, so tread carefully.

The Yoruba never insulted the entire country. They never hated the PDP and labelled it an Nyamiri or Aboki party like igbos did and are still doing to the "Afonja Terrorist Janja_weeed islamization" party in power.

I listened to the Radio Kudirat you are referring to and it was NOTHING like Radio Biafra. It was not a secessionist hate and bigotry driven station, but was a station fighting military dictatorship and agitating for return to democratic rule.

Think hard before you respond because your revisionist propaganda will not work here as I will continue to puncture lies with facts and proof where needed.

Area4Area:
Igbos pacified because of what?
They can denounce zoning and request for it at their leisure and other Nigerians would be clapping, you guys ain't even serious yet

They want to be pacified, but don't want to change their hateful, insultive, derogatory, arrogant, acidic habits.

Lmao.

Area4Area:
The SE destroyed the zoning instituted by PDP and I find it funny when you and your likes now want to go back to your vomit

They destroyed zoning because of greed for power through GEJ.

They think everyone has sudden amnesia and have forgotten.

Anago55:
. Igbos should be pacified for national cohesion. you know this , everybody knows this but since you yorubas want to play the spoiler, let's see how it goes come 2023

You're the ones insulting others and calling the country a zoo but somehow you're are the ones that need to be pacified?

You can see there must be something seriously wrong with some of you.

Indeed wait for 2023 to reap your fruits of hatred.

Anago55:
. Look at the word"invested" Imagine how you craftily used invested instead of the commonly used hatred as ascribed to igbos. No matter what an Igbo man does, the truth is,he can never appease you Igbophobic citizens of the country. The yorubas were staunchly against the ruling class as at then through their AD propaganda machinery because most of them were in the SDP. you need to be schooled here buddy

You're just a joke. How can you school anyone when you're clearly empty upstairs regarding the 99 elections?

Yorubas never hated the PDP. That is a lie from the pit of hell. What ruling class were they against? Abdulsalam? Was Abacha a PDP member?Or was it IBB as military President that was a PDP member that they were against? Which other ruling class?

Do you even know the AD was formed in 1998? You clearly don't that's why you can claim they used the party for propaganda against the military (the ruling class).

I hope you can see you aren't making sense so go and study that election and stop sounding ignorant.

You have no grounds to expect any consensus candidate.

Area4Area:
When they started the hate and name calling game and were being warned that it could backfire later, did they listen? They're now trying to impose themselves lon the "devilish, Islamic terrorist Fulani" party. Bunch of cowards, always begging

Of course they were too myopic and filled with bitter emotions over Jonathan's defeat to listen and reason.

Anago55:
. Look at the word"invested"

same thing is applicable to the igbos unless of course you just want to further show your disdain for people you love to hate

Nope.

Get it in your skull that you lack any moral basis or political goodwill to be asking for favours or making demands from the same people you hate, insult and attack endlessly.

The Yorubas had earned political goodwill from 1993-1999 as they had fought for democracy & sacrificed their son and his mandate for the sake of the democracy the whole country enjoys today (While Daniel Kanu was busy supporting Abacha with 1 million people). Also remember that the SW had a pending Presidential mandate from 1992.

What is the source of the goodwill you're expecting from Nigerians? You can't be calling Nigeria a zoo and it's citizens animals and be expecting favours.

You will learn by force.

Anago55:
. Look at the word"invested"

same thing is applicable to the igbos unless of course you just want to further show your disdain for people you love to hate

Indeed, just like they're more invested in the ruling party today, which igbos aren't, and is why the Yorubas can lay claim to the party's ticket.

Go and face your PDP.

Anago55:
. Tell me one prominent Yoruba that played a major role in the formation of the party and I will tell you ten igbos who funded the party since inception


most of your ancestors including the bullion van thief were busy romancing the other party (which they called Yoruba party as at then) while igbos were busy forming the PDP with a national appeal

Now tell me,who has been cornered?

Are you totally confused?

So because Yorubas were more invested in AD at the time, that automatically translates to "they hated the PDP with passion"? How now?

Stop embarrassing logic. You will not get the APC ticket, a party founded on North + SW winning alliance. You can only lay claim to PDP's ticket, a party "igbos were busy founding".

Area4Area:
Change from your insulting nature and chest beating, Nigerians are not ready to vote for anybody from the SE for president or VP, Peter Obi was just lucky last year and it won't happen again

Actually AdaObi was a major reason why Atiku lost in the North.

Imagine Atiku being defeated in his NE region and polling unit by someone from a different region.

Change your habit of insults, blackmail, grandstanding, arrogance and intolerance against other regions.

You can make your points and have your way without being derogatory and acidic.

Awol1:
"...unless you change".

Change to what?
Change to become your lapdogs?
Change to stop condemning killings in Southern Kaduna?
Change by defecting en masse to APC?
Change by converting the whole Igbo race to Islam?
Change by accepting Tinubu as our personal lord and saviour?
Change by stopping to talk about the many atrocities against the Igbo race?

In what perspective did you employ that word "change"?

The last man who said this, is 6ft beneath. Just a reminder.

Awol1:
When you realize that the decision of where the presidency will go, is as much international as it's local, you will then know that it's not about engaging in an academic argument with me.

Britain, America, France, and other world powers with investments in Nigeria, know that the shortest route to through this country in flame is to work against Igbo interest in 2023.

You gotta be kidding

So the UN and other world powers will actively violate Nigeria's sovereignty and arm-twist the APC to undemocratically impose an Igbo candidate on the party? What did they do when IPOB's were being made to swim in the mud and when they were being shot like fowls? Where were their voices during python dance? Please stop sounding like a joke.

Awol1:
I hope your quotasystem soldiers and police have enough manpower to quell civil unrest in the East.

U guys are still dealing with IPOB. Wait until every Igbo queue behind them after 2023 like Nwodo already said.

My brother we have seen your worst in 1966 and 2015 so please rest.

Infantile threats and blackmail will get you nowhere, and you will learn this painful lesson in 2023 unless you change.

proeast:
It's obvious that you're a novice when it comes to Nigeria's voodoo politics.
If you think that calculations about 2023 has not started long before now, then you're not informed.

There is going to be a consensus agreement in 2023 for SE to produce the president. There is very little difference between APC and PDP as parties because the members can jump from one to the other and they rub ideas together, behind the scenes.

Actually there is not going to be a consensus candidate because like I stated earlier, nobody owes Igbos any political favours, especially not after the Zoo chanting IPOB rubbish since 2015.

The APC, a party built on North /SW alliance, is fundamentally different from the PDP and that's one of the reasons igbos hate it so much. The core reason politicians can jump parties is because the constitution guarantees the right of freedom of association. Simple.

proeast:
1. Tinubu is not as powerful as you guys in the SW believe him to be. He only has a cult following in Lagos mainly by hangers on, touts and opportunists but the true elites in Lagos only tolerate him. Also, he was able to lobby for some of his loyalists to be given posts which the powers that be acceded to, as a way to compensate him and also to continue enjoying his support until when it won't be needed anymore. However, even the North knows that he is a desperate opportunist who can't be trusted. Someone who could selfishly pocket Lagos since 1999 would do worse if allowed to rule Nigeria, they know that!

First of all, I'm neither a Tinubu fan or from the SW (I personally think he is as corrupt as they come), and I'd happily choose an Osibanjo over him due to his questionable antics in Lagos state. However I'm realistic enough to know he is the most powerful and influential politician in the south since 2015, and also know that he is the head of the ACN component of the APC which gives him political leverage above and beyond any other southern politician in 2023.

proeast:
2. The main reason why Tinubu has not declared his intentions to run despite his desperation is because he understands the risks and consequences. Unfortunately for him, he has enough baggages and skeletons in his cupboard that would make it easy for the cabals to rubbish him and reduce him to nothing.

I am not in Tinubu's mind and neither are you to know his thoughts. As far as I'm concerned, he might not even have any direct Presidential ambition and considering his antecedents, will most likely prefer to rule by proxy through Osibanjo who is a much easier candidate to sell to Nigerians.

proeast:
3. Even within APC, Tinubu is not as powerful or influential as his supporters believe. On one or two occasions, his nominated candidates for federal appointments were discarded and replaced flagrantly. El Rufai often pokes hand at him. Ngige threw shades at him so condescendingly, same with Amaechi and others. If Tinubu is as powerful as you guys believe he is in APC, then party members won't be using every opportunity to rubbish him.

Wrong.

... he is the most powerful and influential politician in the south since 2015, and also know that he is the head of the ACN component of the APC which gives him political leverage above and beyond any other southern politician in 2023.

proeast:
A Tinubu presidency can't help anyone. It won't stabilize Nigeria. It won't promote good governance. He is too ambitious, selfish, cunning, and untrustworthy. Dangerous traits that the cabals can't risk.

Smell the coffee, Tinubu will never rule Nigeria.

For the last time, I'm not after a Tinubu Presidency. I'm only clearing your doubts about the impossibility of a consensus or Igbo President in 2023.

Anago55:
. Yoruba hated the PDP with passion in 1999,yet the party favoured them. what do you have to say about that?

Keep quiet if you were too little to have been politically conscious in 1999.

How could the Yoruba have "hated PDP with passion" when it was just created & had never ruled?

You have been cornered & have started speaking gibberish.

Awol1:
Perfect question. But be reminded that the forces that organized the senate principal officers election are the same forces that threw him into prison and wanted to destroy his Sun Newspaper through the courts. There are mafians after him.

Now, if he was less of a threat like you wanna make me believe, why do you think those forces are working seriously to put him away? Do you think people waste time and resources on people not a threat to them? Does it not tell you that there are things they know that you and I don't know?

Again, in the run on to 1999 general elections, are you aware that it was like a forgone conclusion that Alex Ekwueme was going to be the candidate of PDP? Obasanjo was not even a PDP member yet. But after the forces in charge of this country met, they released Obasanjo from prison and decided there was need to compensate the Yoruba for Abiola and the whole country understood and it happened.

In 2023, the Igbo is coming to the negotiating table with the need to address Igbo Marginalization and quell call for secession from some quarters; what is the Southwest bargaining chip?

Wait. So you're hinging the chances of APC giving its Presidential ticket to the SE on unseen "forces" and imaginary "mafians" that will miraculously work in favour of the same region that hates and rejects the party like a plague? Lmao .

Now tell me this, what political favours do these "forces" owe the SE to be sticking out their neck for them? Are you allergic to reality?

Also tell us where this floating "negotiating table" is located and when the meeting will hold. Lol.

Finally, there is no need for any "bargaining chips", everyone is bringing their horse to the races.

LukasPodolski:
Okay perfect, I can see Peter Obi, umahi or whatever in PDD which I have no problem with, obviously PDP will be zoning the ticket to SE...

Now for OUK, before the 9th Senate election, we all saw you guys campaigning for Kalu (I think for the post of SP or DSP)
at the end of the day, APC could not even give him Majority leader.. hahaha..

Now answer this question, do you think kalu that couldn't get the ordinary majority leader In the Senate would be given the ultimate ticket(the prestigious presidency)?

Sucker Punch

Bannylove13:
You see how fullish you sound..

Nothing "fullish" about facts.

Only about how they're processed.

Faure Gnassingbe of Togo has a better chance to rule in 2023 than any Igbo man because they cannot win any national election.

However I would love them to try so they can fully get the message.

Kuginzi:
But any other tribe from the South have tasted presidency except the Igbos, why can't they be given a chance to rule

They can't and won't be "given".

They must contest if they want the Presidency, so that they can experience first hand the utter foolishness of insulting and attacking your neighbours endlessly, forgetting that they'd need their support someday. That will guide further Igbo generations on how to act accordingly.

They either contest or go back and sit down at the back of the class.

Kennydoc:
You should understand that if NBA hadn't withdrawn that invitation, the petition against his invitation would have gained more traction by now, and possibly some Southern and North Central chapters would have started threatening boycott.
There is a clear division on this matter. Some of the Northern chapters see it as an attack against the North while the Southern and Middle Belt chapters see it as the right move.
Last last, Nigeria has never been one and will never be. My people and yours can never think alike.

Can those people argue against the fundamental flaw of the prejudicial decision and how it contradicts the very tenets upon which the association itself is built?

If regardless of the fact, they still threaten to boycott, how does that not translate to rascality?

We can agree to disagree on this matter but facts are sacred.

Kennydoc:
The decision was made by NBA NEC and both the north and south are well represented in the NEC. Majority of the NEC members including those from the North agreed that the invitation should be withdrawn.

The apology was from the President of NBA not from the NBA as a body. Go and read the letter again and see that it was a personal statement.

It does not matter if the decision was made by Demons Congress in Hell, the issue is the fundamentally faulty foundation of their prejudicial decision.

I'm also sure that was not his personal letterhead.

I888:
You are the one that lacks objectivity, OGA.

Firstly, I am not surprise by your position on this issue--justifying the killings because he/you didn't start it/

It also a known fact that even the learned ones among you Northerners will KILL if given the chance and that means you here will kill as well, afterall Lamido Sanusi once led a mob that killed an igbo man in the North.

Lastly, so if a child mistakenly set your house by fire, when you come in, you will not do anything because, according to you stupid and idiotic reasoning, you are not the one that started the fire and therefore, your house can burn to ashes? If your answer is NO and that you will do something to put out the fire, then you my friend is a bloody HYPOCRITES like thousands of you Northerners...

have a nice day...

Who said nothing should or ought not to be done about the situation in Kaduna? Where did I state or imply that? You expect me to pretend along that the crisis started with the current governor or that he must possess the magic wand to make it all disappear?

How did you even conclude on the faith I belong to begin with for you to start running your mouth like a drunken sailor?

Or you think because cultism and skull mining has erased the sanctity of life from your depraved mind it applies to everyone else? This is exactly what happens when your sentimental fingers run faster than your brain.

I am not responsible for your comprehension or clear lack of it. Have a nice day.

ojuu4u:
Which fear hearing you want hear again sir, are u not in this country? Don't you listen to uncouth language coming out from El rufai , a sitting governor? Statement that shows he has underhand in acrimony going on in southern Kaduna.

Let me tell sir, if ICC comes to Kaduna killings! There is no way El rufai will not be jailed or sentenced to death.

Meanwhile all these northern NBAs are being sponsored by Elrufai, mainly because of his presidential ambition that's going bleak day by day.

My friend, do not be mistaken. I am not in anyway defending El-Rufai or the violence in Kaduna in any way, shape or form. God forbid. I totally condemn the Kaduna killings and I pray consistently for the sponsors to be exposed whoever they are, as I pray for the safety of loved ones in the area.

However what must be clear is that we should never allow sentiments to becloud fair judgement it will definitely stir rancour and breed disharmony as we are already seeing.

AnanseK:
Hate speech.

And these are the type people calling for a disgrace to El-Rufa’i for lawlessness when the father of lawlessness dictator Wike is honored and pampered as a guest speaker in the same conference.

Their hypocrisy stinks to the Solar system.

Freebills12:
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ARE YOU SAYING THE ALLEGATIONS ARE FALSE? EVEN THE ONES HE MADE ON NATIONAL TV. I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THIS THE NORTH IS THE PROBLEM OF THIS COUNTRY. EL RUFAI ADDRESSING NBA IS A SIN AGAINST JUSTICE, AN INSULT TO NBA AND A DISGRACE TO OUR COUNTRY.

I am saying you have zero proof, evidence or conviction to substantiate the allegations, and while any individual is free to throw allegations, a legal body built on fairness and justice such as the NBA would be ridiculing itself in making such a decision as it would amount to a clear case of PREJUDICE.

I will actually be glad if you do have proof/evidence so it can be presented in court and these senseless killings can stop.

Do you?

I888:
At the time you wrote this, perhaps, 20 persons may have lost their lives in Southern Kaduna, which your Rufai has failed to solve because the inhabitants are majorly Christians.


Instead of holding protest to demand he resolve the issue, look at what a supposed learned person like yourself is supporting.

The next thing, like it is already being propagated is that it's igbos behind it.

Every region are beginning to see what you people are and trust me, it will end when it is time.

You lack objectivity.

Did the crisis in Southern Kaduna start with El-Rufai?

How will it end when people like you are CLEARLY using it to gain political capital? It can only be solved when faced head on and objectively devoid of sentiments. You think everyone is disposed to emotional politics like your ilk?

You are part of the problem of Southern Kaduna by constantly polarising the issue without evidence. You are just as divisive as El-Rufai.

CodeTemplar:
Mental, where is the bitterness? Get lost I insist.

Good to know you're happy about BUA's success.

That is what we need.

CodeTemplar:
What I hate is people without a soul. Get lost.

I will not enter the gutter with you.

But why so bitter over your country's increased capacity for flour production?

Please tell us.

sinistermind:
Just see the problem of Nigerians. The North is already taking the withdrawal of the invitation of El-Rufia as an attack on their region looking at the protest/boycotts/withdrawals from various NBA branches in the region. Well, I'm waiting for a protest from Kaduna Branch of NBA regarding the issue, then I will confirm that their isn't any hope for this country anymore.

Blame it on the heavy bigotry laced narratives on this issue from the south.

It is a mockery of the values of the NBA to take such a decision based on mere allegations without fair hearing or conviction. That can be permitted from sentimental individuals but certainly not from such a hitherto distinguished national body. The NBA's profuse apology to El Rufai illuminates this gross indiscretion but I fear it might be a little too late to save their credibility.

VirginSearcher:
Build only on a paper. Imagine a country with an illiterate lifeless as a president and a sharia dullard as a CJN. I don't know which day I will wake up to read a reasonable news about this country.

CodeTemplar:
We heard more noise than these under last govt of GEJ.

"I hate Trains. I hate Rice. I hate Bridges. I hate the Tallest Building in Eastern Nigeria"

Na them.

Hausa-Fulani Amaka

On a more serious note however, rapid industrialization is what Nigeria needs to prosper, and we welcome investors like BUA with open arms. More jobs and value created for sure.

We are all witnesses to how Abdulsamad Rabiu has diligently been building his business empire one factory and one acquisition at a time through sheer hard work and razor sharp business acumen. However, soon enough some pained bigots will try to discredit his entrepreneurial brilliance & excellence that has earned him success, and claim he is a beneficiary of government patronage/monopoly even without a shred of evidence, like they tried to do with another Arewa billionaire trailblazer Aliko Dangote.

What's even more beautiful & inspiring (and frustrating for haters) is that these two intelligent and patriotic Nigerians are minting their Billions of $$$ from our locally mined limestone (cement) and locally grown wheat (flour/pasta), all sourced from the rich soils of Northern Nigeria, and yet are wealthier than any crude oil billionaire anywhere in or out of Africa.

God bless BUA
God bless Arewa
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.