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Islam › Re: Bidha Done In Salat By Shia\shite - by Raintaker(m): 7:26am On Aug 21, 2017

Sarcasm01:
إذ هذا صحيح عن حول فرقة شيعة، فهاذ ضلال كبير، ولأسف شديد

You are confirming it's true about shia, but you are still asking Albaqir if it's vtrue in your previous post.

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Raintaker(m): 7:22am On Aug 21, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
WHAT IS Y0UR PROOF THAT I D0NT BELIEVE IN QURAN#G . . SO YOU MEAN PROPHET MUHAMMAD RAPED ABI? WALAHI YOU A KAFIR. SAHEEH BUKHARI(ALL THE HADITH IN IT AINT BUKHARI WORDS BUT RASUL AND SAHABAH WORDS) . .YOU ARE SAYING THE RUBBISH HABIB KAFIR HAS ALO SAID. . . AND U THINK U A MUSLIM? WALAI U A KAFIR. . U LIED AND INSULT RASUL? QUWEZIROH, 1ST KHAWRIJ NEVER SAID UP TO THAT THAT UMAR WANTS TO KILL HIM. .COZ HE Z A KAFIR . . .JAFHDGQ

Are you alright?
I said Rasul raped? why do you like lying? answer me.

Did I write Sahih Buhari?

You are even worse than a kafir.

I'm telling you that Hadith is a lie, but you don't want to accept.

Hadith is a collection if sayings and doings of the prophet and his companions?

Who collected the Hadith?
Have you heard of Hadith Israeliyats?

You are Jon Snow self, you and jabata know nothing.

Islam › Re: Reading Suratul Fathia Behind Imam by Raintaker(m): 7:01am On Aug 21, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
RUBBISH. . SUFI ARE KUFAR. I

Mumu

Jabata boy.

You don't believe in Quran but you believe 100% in Sahi Buhari.

Who is the kafir now?

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 6:58am On Aug 21, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
NOTHING IS WR0NG WITH THIS HADITH. . CHECK UR BRAIN BRO

It's your own brain that needs to be checked if you can't find anything wrong in that Hadith?
That Hadith is a lie.

The prophet is not a sexual predator.

If you want more of those wrong had it's, I can open a full page thread on that.

Buhari never wrote Sahih Buhari and it is not perfect.

Only the Quran is perfect.

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Islam › Re: Bidha Done In Salat By Shia\shite - by Raintaker(m): 6:35am On Aug 21, 2017

Are there Shia mosques anywhere in the Southwest? I've never seen them praying and this method of solat is strange to me.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 6:28am On Aug 21, 2017

tintingz:
Good, so you agreed Allah created evil? If Allah is the creator of evil then he's the source of evil, he knows if someone will become evil, which makes man dependent on good and evil, which makes choice or freewill shaky and flawed or is there any choice outside good and evil?
This is rubbish, there are only two sides to a coin it's either you are good or evil.

Allah is said to be all-powerful why can't he prevent Satan he created from rebelling?
Why should he prevent Satan from rebelling? Isn't that an opposition to FREEWILL?

If you have power to prevent a terrorist from rebelling won't you put an end to it?
Is Satan's rebellion akin to terrorism?
What are you even saying?

Did Allah know Satan will become the bad guy?
Allah knows everything

Let see how freewill works here, if Allah created Satan to become the bad guy as part of his plan, should we call that freewill? If Satan acted independently, should we say Allah is not capable?
Seems you've been reading my replies upside down, repeating a question that has been answered multiple times.

Man and jinns are created with free will in where they choose good or evil according to their desires.

Is this play part of Allah's plan?
Did Allah tell you he's Shakespeare or Wole Soyinka?
Which play

So Allah can prevent/stop Satan but choose Satan to cause evil to humanity, why should I worship such god?
Same question that has been answered.
Satan does not cause evil to humanity, I don't know where you got this wrong ideology from.

If shekau the boko haram dog leader came to you to ask permission to cause havoc on people and you have the power to stop him, will you give shekau the chance?

This analogy holds no water
Lol, if Satan is not the one that cause evil, why do Muslims rebuke him? What does Auzu'billah Mina'shaitan nirajim means? Don't forget I'm a Muslim.
So much for being a Muslim, when you don't know even d simple meaning of adhubillahi Mina shaytoni rajim

So if Satan is not the one that causes evil, who then causes evil?

Repeating the same thing in multiple ways.
What's wrong with you?

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 11:18pm On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
All what you posted have not answer the question.

It still boils down to "Why did God create evil, Satan?" except you want to say Allah didn't create satan or he doesn't know Satan will become the bad guy or Allah doesn't know everything?

The more reason Epicurus first question is Is God willing to prevent evil but not able?

I'm wondering if you read what you quoted before quoting it.

Allah has created good and evil with man(check the Quranic verses above) It is man that either makes the choice of going d good way or d evil way.

Shaitan is a creature of Allah like you who rebelled against his creator.

If you are asking why Allah created shaitan then it means you didn't know d purpose of every creator is to worship Allah.

Shaytan is a jinn, Allah created humans and jinns with free wills of either good or bad.

Shaitan chose d bad side after thinking he was d next best thing after slice bread by refusing to bow to Adam.

Shaytan only pleaded with Allah that he didn't want to go down alone.
Allah being d grsnter of requests granted him permission with a certain exception of those who believe in him.

It is your belief that Shaytan is d one that causes evil but that is not my belief , nothing happens outside the knowledge of my Lord Allah.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 11:04pm On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
We being alive/existence is not widely known and agreed yet, it still a debate.

Hold on Hold Hold on

You are still debating if you are alive or existing?

You are not even sure of your own existence.

Or what are you trying to say?

If your god is the cause of my existence then why did he create evil? Why did your god create Satan?

Here is what an early philosopher Epicurus said,

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 10:57pm On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
We being alive/existence is not widely known and agreed yet, it still a debate.

If your god is the cause of my existence then why did he create evil? Why did your god create Satan?

Here is what an early philosopher Epicurus said,

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

By the human mind and that which perfected it and inspired in it lewdness and God-fearing." (91:7- cool

"Have we not blessed him with two eyes and a tongue, and two lips and guided him on the two highways' of right and wrong." (90:8-10)

Man loses his balance between good and evil under pressure of worldly desires and succumbs to evil acts. Due to this tendency of the soul, according to the Holy Qur'an, it is prone to evil. The Prophet Yusuf (sws) pointed towards this in these words:

"I do not exculpate myself. Lo, the human soul is prone to evil." (12:53)

The concept of good and evil is inherent in human nature looking at the above verses from the Quran.

It is man's earthly desires that lead him further to evil and farther away from good.

About Shaytan He is Allah's creature and he was created the for the same reason why you were created

And behold, We said to the angels: “Bow down to Adam” and they bowed down. Not so Iblis (Satan): he refused and was haughty: he was of those who reject Faith. (2: 34)

It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels bow down to Adam, and they boweddown; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who bow down. (God) said: “What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee?” He said: “I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay.” (God) said: “Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures).” (7: 11–13)

Behold! We said to the angels: “Prostrate unto Adam”: They prostrated except Iblis (Satan): He said, “Shall I prostrate to one whom Thou didst create from clay?” He said: “Seest Thou? This is the one whom Thou hast honoured above me! If Thou wilt but respite me to the Day of Judgment, I will surely bring his descendants under my sway – all but a few!” (17: 61–62)

Going through these verses would suffice to draw a clear picture of Satan’s character. It is that of an arrogant creature that thinks highly of his physical fibre, so much so that he rebels against the will of God when he perceives that it clashes with the intrinsic conceited tendency of his character. Not only this, he seems bent on facing the consequences of his rebellion and not bothering about his fate, only to keep his “pride”.

Just like some human beings rebelling against their creator by refusing to acknowledge him.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 10:27pm On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
I decide my purpose in life.

Thanks for what? For i am still alive and some people and kids are dying daily? Giving thanks for that is self-centered and makes the god a partial god.

I don't give thanks to any deity because I'm the one doing the struggle in life.

Interesting.

So you are a saying you being alive might probably be by mistake?

Create your thread and let's move on there.

Investment › Re: How To Open And Operate A US Paypal Account Free by Raintaker(m): 10:16pm On Aug 20, 2017

Pinkblue:
lol 19k? What i sell for 6k?

How is d virtual dollar card used?

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 10:06pm On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
If I show you the clear wrong of your religion and clear truth of my religion, are you ready to leave your religion?

You are also a full blown kafir in my religion just that my God is not a wicked and not a angry God, he doesn't throw people who reject him inside eternal hell.

What is d purpose of your creation on earth?

And how would you give thanks to d one who gave you life?

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 10:04pm On Aug 20, 2017

He has legislated for you of the religion what He has instructed for Noah. What We inspired to you, and what We instructed for Abraham, Moses and Jesus, is that you should establish the religion and do not be divided therein. 42:13

Abraham was neither a Jew, nor a Nazarene (Christian); but he was a monotheist Muslim. He was not one of the mushrikeen. (those who set up partners with God). 3:67

Islam › Re: Plz I Need Urgent Reply by Raintaker(m): 9:43pm On Aug 20, 2017

Her inner voice asked her to fast for seven days.
Is there any harm in fasting?No
Is it haram? No
Is it Shirk? No
Is fasting part of Islam? Yes
Do we fast as a means of supplication to Allah to grant our desires? Yes.

So why not just fast for the seven days and get the reward from Allah instead of cutting it to 3.

7 is greater than 7
So more rewards.

Sheikh Raintaker.

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Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 9:28pm On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
You're dodging the question which is part of this thread.

I reject your clear truth revealed in your religion, am I a kafir? If I'm a kafir, what makes you think you're not a kafir?

Creating a separate thread is baseless as the topic and discussion will focus on "truth" and "kafir". If you insist, I can create a thread on it.

Create a thread on it and tag me.

This thread has achieved it's purpose already.

Create your own thread and tell me why you reject my religion's clear proof and show me the clear truth about your own religion.
After seeing the clear truth with all your senses and faculties intact, with a sound and clear mind but purposeful decide to reject the truth to suit your own agenda, then you yourself know what you are.

A full blown Kafir.

Create your thread and tag me

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 6:03pm On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
No, my question has not been address.

You believe your religion is the "clear truth" and those that reject it are kafir, so I asked what if you are "clear wrong" and the kafir that reject your clear truth are the right and truth?

That is not the purpose of this thread, don't derail it.

Raise d question on another thread and Tag me if you want my contributions.

This thread is solely for who to call a kafir and nothing else.

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Investment › Re: How To Open And Operate A US Paypal Account Free by Raintaker(m): 2:28pm On Aug 20, 2017

Sensual:
Not anymore. I'm going to update this. PayPal don't accept payoneer bank accounts cos after dropping those cents, PayPal can't take them back, so they'll remove the bank. But you can still connect your payoneer card.

Hi, U said not anymore, do you mean we can't open a verified U.S PayPal account from Nigeria anymore.

Or is there a new way to that?

Literature › Re: Shango And His Battleaxe Oshe by Raintaker(m): 12:09pm On Aug 20, 2017

correctguy101:
Hahahaha, na Yoruba talk o.

All Yoruba born suppose know na. It's a way to talk about an event especially used when describing ancient events and the ancients themselves.

Just say Allegory no mind my ranting, na fired egg cause am.

Lol
l thought Pataki meant important.

Christianity Etc › Re: Importance Of Restitution - Case Study Of Juliana Olayode (aka Toyo Baby) by Raintaker(m): 11:37am On Aug 20, 2017

The girl's PR handlers are good.
Any publicity is good publicity.

We now know her.

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Literature › Re: Shango And His Battleaxe Oshe by Raintaker(m): 11:34am On Aug 20, 2017

correctguy101:
We nowadays attach too much meaning to the word "gods". It's simply those of ancient times, whose essence surpass that of mortals, most once lived on Earth, Some were killed here while others decided to just leave. Not a Yoruba but I definitely understand yoruba traditional beliefs and ancient history more than most Yoruba since I was born in the yoruba land.
Now you know Eshu means a double path hence the twins, Lanroye and Elegbara.

It's very interesting history I tell you. Meditating on the Pataki will trigger your brain to decode the import of each Pataki.

Wetin be Pataki?

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 11:27am On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
Yes, i did, the op talked about clear truth and who to call a kafir, I asked questions on this.

OK

I thought u were among those who call everyone kafirs.

Your question has been addressed by d Op.

Only Allah knows who a kafir is.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 11:14am On Aug 20, 2017

tintingz:
Brother, no one is ready to discuss that with me.

Did you read the Op at all?

Literature › Re: Shango And His Battleaxe Oshe by Raintaker(m): 9:00am On Aug 20, 2017

Nice one. I love this.

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Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:38am On Aug 20, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
LAUGHING . .ALWAYS DODGING . .WHEN IT HAS NO PR0OF . .MGG . . AND WHICH OF HADITH IN BUKHARI OR MUSLIM IS AGAINST QURAN. . .JUST SAY 1 . .JUST 1

After the fall of Khyber, people described the beauty of Safia Bint Hui, the new bride of a slain enemy soldier. The Prophet chose her for himself. On the way to Madina he stopped and had intercourse with her. His companions did not know if she was a wife or a concubine. Later, a veil was drawn between her and the men-folk and they came to know that she was a wife (Bukhari, Book of Sales and Book of Nikah 3:59).
Indeed Bukhari makes the Prophet of Islam to be a real sexual predator and pervert! The Prophet had nothing else on his mind except ravishing women, including the new bride of a slain enemy soldier. What cruelty? Which verse in the Quran is explained by this sick hadith?

Do you believe in this kind of Hadith?

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:19am On Aug 20, 2017

iamgenius:
Haaaa O lagbara oooo. Both of you deserve some strokes of the cane.

For Why na?

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:19am On Aug 20, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
DO U BELIEVE IN SAHEEH BUKHARI AND MUSLIM HADITHS?

I will still tell you d same thing.

SAHEE BUHARI AND Muslim are fallible.

I only believe in hadiths that are in consonance with the Quran.
Chikena.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:18am On Aug 20, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
DO U BELIEVE IN SAHEEH BUKHARI AND MUSLIM HADITHS?

I will still tell you d same thing.

SAHEE BUHARI AND Muslim are fallible.

I only believe in hadiths that are in consonant with the Quran.
Chikena.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:08am On Aug 20, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION . . AM LISTENING

This homework is for you, give me d reply when you are sure you've found iyt d answer.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:07am On Aug 20, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
DO YOU BELIEF IN HADITH? yes or n0?.

This is not a yes or no question cos there are different kinds of Hadith's.

Hadith pe orishirishi.

That's why I am telling you that Hadith is fallible.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:01am On Aug 20, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
LOL. . SE SUFI NI ANABI? SE SUFI NI AW0N SAABE? .GS

Who is a Sufi?
Or what is Sufi?

Another Assignment for you.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 12:00am On Aug 20, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
WHOSE WORD IS HADITH? WHO C0MPILED HADITH IF N0T BUKHARI?

Bros I'm not teaching you this for free, go and find out and come back here cos it's one of d basics.

If you can't find out I'll teach you for a fee.

You still have a long way to go.

You said I should check your thread

What's in your thread? I don't get.

Islam › Re: Who Is A Kafir? by Raintaker(op): 11:59pm On Aug 19, 2017

AbuUthaymeen:
WHOSE WORD IS HADITH? WHO C0MPILED HADITH IF N0T BUKHARI?

Bros I'm not teaching you this for free, go and find out and come back here cos it's one of d basics.

If you can't find out I'll teach you for a fee.

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