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LaClicKLaBenDin:
Mehn, it's tiring having a sound argument with atheist...just imagine!

LaClicKLaBenDin:
That's one problem with atheist; avoiding important parts of an argument.

Two verses of the Bible was quoted by the OP; describing the earth as hanging on nothing and also, stating categorically that the earth is spherical, and these men weren't scientists.

Now the question is; how could this be possible, since we all know that it was not too long ago that scientists came to know that the earth is spherical? Does it mean the Bible was recently edited, or does it mean the Bible isn't as old as it claims to be? I need answers

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and
the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;that
stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and
spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

TomHagen:
While I agree that a lot of these things are ordinary physical tricks, it does not rule out the supernatural.

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Can you explain how rain-making works? NB Do not insult our intelligence by mentioning cloud-seeding when you want to reply. Cc: Jonbellion, hopefullandlord, raphiemontella NPcomplete, Grimmjoe.

jonbellion:
the dude does not realise that in the second trick with the gate he was covered with a cloth while passing. From that alone it is obvious the gate was a prop created solely for the trick like the chairs in wrestling. Promise10 also does not realise that there would be openings in the gate that would enable his body to pass depending on the way he presses it against the gate giving the illusion he walked past it. Let him go ad try it in a prison cell na. I'm agnostic but that promise10 can just make somebody openly state that there is no God. Would a God be so impartial, cruel and just plain mischievous to give somebody such a useless, non functioning and primitive brain

TomHagen:
Your list contains religions that have incorporated the idea of extraterrestrial beings into a supernatural worldview, so it's not ET in the sense that I meant. I was talking of Area 51 kind of aliens, the kinds of things that NASA spends money on.

I don't think the goals of these religions are to take care of human needs. The Christian position is that they are demon-inspired philosophies. They preach love, kindness, humanism etc. Anything but Christ. You do not believe in the existence of demons so there's no need going down that road.

shadeyinka:
Hi Raphie,

I know that they are modern. I just want to know their evolutionary progress.

Their fossils could not just have completely disappeared, could they?

TomHagen:
Nobody goes about forming belief systems on aliens.

Meditation has led people to access portals of information that can only be described as esoteric. Eckists and Grail Messengers are examples of people who have formed religions from information obtained through meditation. Even Otem achieved his Domino Reverad ''knowledge'' via this meditation.

shadeyinka:
Let's agree with your paragraph 1 for the sake of a healthy discussion. "We come from an extinct family of apes !"

If that is true, note that we share so many similarities with apes which according to the theory of evolution are necessary for the perpetiation of evolution towards the higher being

Examples: Bifocal Eyesight, Opposing thumbs, Bipedal Movement, Ability to use tools, Vocal Range

How come the Apes and the Monkeys SUDDENLY stopped evolving. How come they were fixed in the past.

Actually, evolution must result into several variant of the same species related but not able to interbreed. Webmust necessarily have several variants from thebsame parent stock.

Tallesty1:
The entire theory of evolution is based on blind faith, someone told me here just yesterday that it will take millions of years to notice the evolution that's currently taking place and I ask, If it's truly happening right now, then how comes there's no creature out there with partially developed features and organs?

How come we have not discovered millions upon millions of transitional fossils that show the development of one species into another species.

Perry Marshall

TomHagen:
Na wetin I ask you be this? What do you make of the encounters of those ''meditators''?

jonbellion:
lol he thinks Richard Dawkins is like the athiest high priest. Is atheism a religion

Sarassin:
Well sir I am not at all sure that I get your point so I will ask that you clarify. Given what we know from the Christian scriptures and from contemporary historians, where would you say the tomb of Jesus lay? Within the city walls of Jerusalem as Constantine declared on the site of an old temple to Venus or the mount of Olives close by to Calvary?

Image123:
Ignorance. Simple research shows you that wars and its devastations have been on the increase. Just the last 100years alone is enough to prove it with the stats. Come out of your ignorance please.


Lol. So the prophecy was correct, ba? Who is going to pirate you in the next 2 years after you die? No one, don't be ridiculous.


Okay, so the whole world is hoping and spending and making visions 2000 and 2020 and 2050 and on and on. Billions of dollars are being spent and hoped to reduce hunger, but Jesus was so cute to know above all these PhDs and World governing bodies, the UN, UNESCo, WHO and other relief organisations that hungers will increase. Why would brilliant people do the exact opposite of what you seem to think as common sense?


Aimless rant. You probably don't know what persecution means.



Never has man packed such ignorance together in a post as this fellow. He assures us that there are no new diseases. Hail ignoramus, we salute thee.




This is fallacious, nobody said anything about the WHY but you. The prophecy is clear and real for all to see. Nobody sent you on an errand of whining about why. Stop wasting internet space.

hopefulLandlord:
he sounds very naive

NPComplete:
Promise10 probably thinks that Barney is a real magical dinosaur.

jonbellion:
what is wrong with you sef?? Is Richard Dawkins the founder of atheism He is a scientist first and that is the only religious book he has to his name. Joel Osteen owns a 10.5 million dollar house. Benny hinn used to sell handkerchiefs for $20. Mark zuckerberg an atheist billioniare lives in a 7 million dollar house. Does Richard Dawkins even own a private jet pastor Crefo Dollar pleaded to his congregation that they should donate money cuz the lord says he needed a $70 million dollar gulfstream G650 jet and they were actually going to donate to him
Please remind me who is decirving who again

TheSixthSense:
See, when you look for political theories you would find many especially when you read any history book. Look at Nigeria for example, going by our history many theories of ethnic, military, and colonial conspiracy would come up. But one may just be reading it simply to know what happened and not why. It is the reader that determines is intended with the knowledge of history. That said, Jesus Christ existed as is reliably recorded in history, Good! So, I will use Scripture here:If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.' (1 Cor 15:19)
You take about St James (Iakovos) brother of Jesus - mind you he never believed in Jesus until after Christ's ascension

but he was matyred and also St Paul and St Peter (crucified, upside down at his request) many apostles killed and are still being killed for their faith in Jesus Christ.

The significant thing you ignore is that these guys took vows of poverty and lives of absolute piety living as eunuchs for the hope in Jesus Christ and ended up brutally murdered. Did they have to live as ascetics?

The Muslim Ottoman empire continued killing and conquering all early churches and christian regions, they took Jerusalem before the crusaders regained Jerusalem that was eventually lost again to Islam. Europe would have fallen to Islam were it not for the crusades but that's all politics.

Anyone can be interested in
politics and say Christianity is about world domination and power but even the pope cannot lie to any christian that that is what the tenets of Christianity are.
Faith in Jesus Christ is spiritual and the spiritual aspect of the Church never left. Everyone would be judged whether Pope or pauper individually so politics concern who e concern. If they wanted Constantine to become a christian, what's wrong with that? If I say I want Buhari to become a christian, I'm sure muslims and atheists would come up with conspiracy theories about my motives, although it may be true that I may have ulterior motives but that's between me and God but Jesus Christ is for everyone who believes in Him.

4everGod:
Do I? Suddenly you have leapt from my screen into my head right?

You guys actually think yoi are smart but Dawkins is way ahead of you guys and is using your guys for commerce. Goodluck.

analice107:
You asked me to dig deep into First Century Rome, but here you are claiming Rome did not fight to eradicate Christianity. lol.

Have you ever heard about Emperor Nero and the Colossus?

Constantine was the last Emperor to fight Christianity from without.

promise10:
hahahahahahahahahahaha

stop the game, it doesn't suit you!

please, do it nah. it will easily make me drop my belief in the supernatural. if i can see you do that in a video on NL, i will simply drop my bible and become an atheist!

have fun with this ones too!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxF6MZxZr0U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxOyST6gM_A

after watching it, you can scream staged!

4everGod:
When you show me a live picture of you with an Archeological team and in Archeological gear researching for yourself then you can speak but for now face a wall or something.

4everGod:
Evangelist Dawkins Evangelist Dawkins Evangelist Dawkins ...

when Dawkins embraced Atheism the rest of you became Gullible and his stooges.

analice107:
I hope you realize you are confirming that Paul and the rest of Christ's Followers lived?

Yea, Rome has been in the business of eradicating Christianity from the inception When they couldn't kill it from without, they came in within.

Answer truthfully, weren't you a Catholic?

Catholicism and is still was Rome trying to kill Christianity within. Satan will still fail.

The gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church. The church is not a Building btw.

TheSixthSense:
I guess you didn't see this : Malaysian newspaper Utusan Malaysia was duped by a fake news story claiming a Catholic priest converted to Islam after being in a coma for more than a year. Utusan Malaysia published a story about the fake news, which originated from a satire story on World News Daily’s website. World News Daily’s Oct. 10 story had claimed an 87-year-old Spanish priest living in Indonesia “has woken up from a 17 month long coma” and “converted himself to Islam after the man claims Allah spoke to him and showed him ‘the beauty of the heavens.'”
The report claimed the priest had a cardiac arrest on the roof of his church, fell off the roof, and woke up with no spinal injury. World News Daily Report identifies itself as “an American Jewish Zionist newspaper based in Tel Aviv and dedicated on covering biblical archeology news and other mysteries around the Globe.” The site has a disclaimer admitting it is a satire site. “All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.co are fiction, and presumably fake news,” the site admits. Utusan Malaysia ‘s Oct. 12 story on the fake news has been unpublished and Utusan published an apology, the Malaysian Star reported. The apology reads, according to Asia One: “A report taken from the World News Daily Report regarding a catholic priest from Spain, Eduardo Vincenzo Maria Gomez, 87, converting to Islam after 17 months in a coma is untrue. Utusan apologises for any inconvenience and confusion following the publication of news emanating from the site.”http://www.imediaethics.org/malaysian-newspaper-hoaxed-priest-didnt-convert-to-islam-after-coma/
Funny people

4everGod:
People see what they want to justify their position with. If you are out looking for error that is what you will see everywhere and if you are out in search of truth that is what you will see.

You seem to think people more knowledgeable than you have not embarked on these searches? They have and it ended up drawing them closer to God and Jesus so you can keep digging for all the errors you seek while we keep on with the truth.

4everGod:
Where are the followers of the other Messiahs and their historical accounts that have withstood all negativity and instead of dying is waxing stronger?

Are you staying up all night being bothered over the other Messiahs? Why is this particular Messiah your rock in the throat?

analice107:
lol. listen guy, you see what the historians and Archeologists are doing now? Its of no import to me. Jesus is not in that grave.

If you ask me to dig deep into the Bible to find hidden truths, then you must have dug deeper right?

haven done that, look around you and see that you can not kick against the brick wall.

Am waiting for his trumpet, not where he was buried.

why seek the living amongst the dead?

analice107:
And how many of those Messiahs keeps you atheists fretting and the Muslims sleepless at night?

analice107:
This guy, you are confused. Shift.

hopefulLandlord:
lol, I guess people don't live and die

analice107:
Lol, how am i your sis? atheists and Christians are now brethren?
Jewish traditions and Roman Crucifixions existed alright, and Jesus was crucified according to that Roman style, and buried according to the Jewish tradition. Sir, if you don't believe it, then don't bother about it.

Historians and Archeologists digging up stuff are not Christians.