Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by raphieMontella: 2:15pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Beejay Accepts Promise10's Challenge On Blood Money by raphieMontella: 2:12pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
beejaay: Am still waiting for the promise guy oooooo...am more than ready for him.....help me call him out ooooooo, am still in Ilorin lol promise10 wont take up the challenge.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: " by raphieMontella: 2:08pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
chybykee: Shoot him, he'll know after death

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Experience With A Psychotic Religious Woman Today. by raphieMontella: 2:07pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
JackBizzle: You must not have heard of the Arab/islamic golden age.
If you were not religiously brainwashed and also a habitual lie mohammed, you would have realised by now that many societies/cultures/religions contributed to science in their own way.
To credit christianity with modern science is a gross overstatement and hence a lie. a fat blatant lie...and he knows it... But he is doing yahwehs work so he has to lie... |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Experience With A Psychotic Religious Woman Today. by raphieMontella: 2:06pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
frank317: Pra! Pra!! Praise tha looorrrd!!!! Brothers and sisters the lord God saved me from the hands of kidnappers. They actually disguised like kind people but I didn't know they were demonic agents. God inspired me to preach and their real identity was revealed... Brethren I prayed and cast and bind and the lord forced then to drop me, I had to track 6kilometers to work... Brethren I would have been dead by now... PRAISE THA LOOOOOORD!!!!!!!!!! lol... Thats how they do... |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Experience With A Psychotic Religious Woman Today. by raphieMontella: 2:06pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
winner01: He is under no obligation to say the truth. Will you as a christian run from an atheist? Would Jesus run from an atheist? These people are desperate. This thread might be headed for front page.Stalin is one out of almost 70 atheists that imposed atheism on the world in the 20th century. Ive given examples no one has been able to refute. Till today in atheist north korea, christians are still hung on a cross fire, steamrolled and crushed to death. Christianity is the reason you have a voice. So when will you frame your story. If you can be this desperate to spend your life on a religion section, then i dont think a very convincing story will be much of a big dealIf it was a miracle story, the idiots will be screaming evidence upandan.Keep crying.... We believe in Christ. We will continue to. christianity is the reason we have a voice? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Felixomor(christian) by raphieMontella(op): 1:29pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
felixomor: Even the bible contains quotes from satan, quotes from men etc. So u can see that u dont even understand the term "bible"?
If u like quote what the devil said from the bible (e.g when the devil tempted Jesus) and begin to argue that the bible is the word of God. Even a kindergatten kid knows thats called "quoting out of context"
So no point there, sorry
And please read about prophets in the bible who lied. Its all there. Again, quoting out of context cant be used as an alarm raiser. You simply cut and paste a part of Jeremiah's lamentations and use it to make a claim. Yeah right.
Its as good as cutting "God exists" from a sentence from Richard Dawkins book and using it to conclude that Richard Dawkins believe in God. Stupidity! youre the stupid person here... A prophet of God who is supposed to be under the influence of the holy spirit said your god lied...not once but twice...i asked a simple question...did jeremiah lie? A simple yes or no is not costly... Do you even know how you sound? According to you... The bible said in a place; god is all good and all loving and all merciful in another place a prophet said and recorded that god flooded the whole earth including babies... God is all loving so the prophet made a false accusation...god didnt flood the babies or the concept of hell....the prophets are liers since god said he is all merciful... Serzly are you okay? Nevertheless, I know why u keep quoting out of context, its because u just want to keep talking by all means. i see you have psychosis... Read the whole of jer 20 and jer 4 and state how i quoted out of context... I remember vividly...i gave you where your god himself admitted to being a lier...(eze 14:9) Which you stylishly ignored.. In your bible...cases like that happened. 1 kings22:23 etc.. Simply say you dont know instead of feigning knowledge But even kids can read and know better. You can really improve. an argument at hominem wont help you... Claiming i copped out a statement but in the case of the fig tree you did so... Mind you..you havent answered the other contradictions The fig tree et all.. I wont bring more since you have no answer but claim to do...until you do |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Contradictions;raphiemontella(skeptic) VS Felixomor(christian) by raphieMontella(op): 1:02pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
felixomor: Hehehehehe, Wetin u dey wait for. I was even expecting bones, u brought milk  i wanted to...but i wont... stop playing around The last time I checked, u were the one in the devil's trap. he has tricked u into believing he doesnt exist. So that u never get to confess your sins and fornication and ask God for forgiveness and as a result go to hell, if u die prematurely. Please come out. Jesus loves u  argument ad hominem... Learn to adress the point bruh... |
Education › Re: 2016/2017 Uniben Admission Thread Guide. by raphieMontella: 11:18am On Oct 01, 2016 |
dharay99:
Its good tho, at least they will both be having frequent vigils...#e good f0r am. vigil ke? |
Education › Re: 2016/2017 Uniben Admission Thread Guide. by raphieMontella: 11:18am On Oct 01, 2016 |
exhibit7432: Mine is Friday oh cool...what time?
Mine's 12 noon |
Education › Re: 2016/2017 Uniben Admission Thread Guide. by raphieMontella: 10:42am On Oct 01, 2016 |
dharay99 yes o bruh...
My date is Friday...time 12:00pm
who else's screening is on friday here?
Or thursday? |
Education › Re: 2016/2017 Uniben Admission Thread Guide. by raphieMontella: 10:12am On Oct 01, 2016 |
guys check
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Education › Re: 2016/2017 Uniben Admission Thread Guide. by raphieMontella: 10:11am On Oct 01, 2016 |
theyve started posting o...a friend of mine...
Seen his date just now
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Education › Re: 2016/2017 Uniben Admission Thread Guide. by raphieMontella: 9:05am On Oct 01, 2016 |
drizzytee: I'll be resuming on monday guys. Feel free to hit me on my bbm or dm if you need assistance or have questions about admission you want answered, especially engineering student. I think I might be able to help. i sent you a pm |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by raphieMontella: 9:00am On Oct 01, 2016 |
shadeyinka: For the first time raphieMontella I appreciate the way you presented facts and reasons in defence of your position. I hope this can continue and I tell you, you are on the way of becoming a friend. no problem brother You have some very strong point here to which I may not have adequate answer; but I will try my best.
I read the whole of Rom9:1-33 and I must confess, you have a point. How can Pharaoh know that he was following a script destined for him? Rom9 seems to say that God reserves the right to do with anyone whatever He chooses. Using the illustration of the Potter and the Clay, God is sovereign and thus justified. If this is the case, then the whole episode falls on Gods Responsibility to punish or not to punish a mans action. To this end, no one knows how God will decide/judge the case.
However, can anyone say that his misbehaviour on earth was caused by God? No! For God could say "I didn't make you do evil..you chose to do evil by your own volition". In that case, the responsibility falls on man to do his utmost at being righteous. If indeed God designed him for evil and he did evil despite the fact that he strove to do good, then since God is righteous, he might have a case. aiit..so he does predestinate at times However, in the case of Judas, there is no evidence that he was destined to betray Jesus
The above is just a case of Foreknowledge and Devine Timing in action. If Jesus was born in Nigeria, one of his friends would have betrayed him. Foreknowledge is different from Predestination! okay... But when you are the creator and all knowing... Why then ''go-ahead'' to still create the person? The scripture is:
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Step 1: Foreknowledge Step2: Predestination for those who were Foreknown to conform to the image of Christ.
If you where NOT foreknown, you are not predestined! look at the bolded..dont you think that since god is the creator of all of us(our souls and spirit) he has foreknown us all? Look at jer 1:5.. Look at john the baptist...read from luke 1:11- the end..couple that with the prophecy which said abt his coming in isaiah 40:3... How wasnt he predestined? Ok...lets look at these verses ephesians 1:4-5 and 2 thessalonians 13 take note of the words there ''beginning and foundation of the world...'' |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Riddle For Our Atheist Friends by raphieMontella: 6:41am On Oct 01, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: raphieMontella,
You can educate yourself here: www.exploregod.com/the-language-of-dna
After reading, come back and attempt the OP. still not arbitrary...maybe you should look up the word urself... Let me make it clear again.. It said words= codons TCT=a certain amino acid,,,GGC =another... GGC can not be modified to mean TCT... Sentences=allele(gene) TCTGGAGAC is just as meaningful as TAGGCCACA but he is wicked is the same in meaning as he is mean. CCGATGCCA is just as meaningful as CCGATG but He is very wicked has a meaning ''is very'' alone is meaningless clear? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by raphieMontella: 10:21pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
gaelllic: The third dimension is height. Time is posited (wrongly) as the fourth. ye time the fourth... Space is 3d...we live in space-time 4d... Observation - light bulb comes on.
Inference - perhaps its magic... or perhaps its a tiny sun.. .or perhaps its electricity...
Evidence - the flow of electrons can be measured, it can be induced, it can be stored. So we have evidence of the physical phenomenon (electric current), and its medium (copper wire).
Observation - plants die in darkness
Inference - perhaps they were lonely...perhaps plants need light...or perhaps its magic
Evidence - The activity of photosynthesis can be observed in the lab. Along with the medium in which it occurs (chlorophyll). Its may be measured, and its dependence on chlorophyll proven.
Observation - metal attracts metal
Inference - perhaps metal is friendly...perhaps magic again...perhaps there is a force which exists in/around the metal
Evidence - this force can be detected, it can be induced in metal, it's direction can be measured (compass) as well as its magnitude (magnetometer).
So let's take this from the top.
Observation - objects seek horizontal rest.
Inference - magic?...invisible companions holding us all down, or perhaps there is a force which exists in/around all objects (gravity).
Evidence - ??
You've taken the observation and called it evidence. You could have just chosen magic.
Now you go find me something that fits in that third row. evidence i gave you? Gravity has been measured... Laws governing gravity made and constant with calculations artificial gravity has been induced... We have been able to conduct gravity assisted flights... Wetin again? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by raphieMontella: 9:50pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
sinequanon: Are you drunk?
If not, go back to school and learn to communicate in some intelligible language. for real? Be polite dude... Ts nothing |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Riddle For Our Atheist Friends by raphieMontella: 9:46pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
The one mistake you will make..is if you cement in your mind that a code must give instructions on how to build a molecule DoctorAlien:
Tryna deviate from the OP?
Anyway, the DNA copies the instructions coded(by pyrimidine bases) in it with extreme accuracy, such that a mistake occurs only once in about 10000000000000 times. This same mistake is responsible for variation in species. That is the reason why even siblings don't look exactly alike.
Address the OP, and don't bring in the ACTGGG-whatever. i did...you refused to see it...lemme help you more.. code (kōd) n. 1. a. A system of signals used to represent letters or numbers in transmitting messages. b. A system of symbols, letters, or words given certain arbitrary meanings, used for transmitting messages requiring secrecy or brevity. c. An access code. d. A special command, such as a sequence of keystrokes, that allows a user to activate a hidden or accidental feature in a computer program or video game. 2. A system of symbols and rules used to represent instructions to a computer; a computer program. 3. Genetics The genetic code. 4. a. A systematically arranged and comprehensive collection of laws. b. A systematic collection of regulations or rules of procedure or conduct: a building code. 5. Medicine Code blue. 6. Slang A patient whose heart has stopped beating, as in cardiac arrest. dna is not an arbitrary code like a language....dont start what you dont understand... I repeat...dna and gravity are ''codes''....
btw how do you mean coded information is not created in nature?... Again...what kind of intelligent designer creates a code with the amount of ''junk dna'' dna carries? |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Riddle For Our Atheist Friends by raphieMontella: 8:39pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
Let me educate you here sha... DoctorAlien: Brother, stop embarrassing yourself and google the meaning of "code." DNA is a code, a language. Moreover, codes and programs can be modified whereas laws can't bend. Please read. Don't come to arguments uninformed. silly from you though... Can you bend the allele ATGCTTC to mean the same thing as ATCTTGA? Ehn? The law of gravity is isn't a code, just like the laws of thermodynamics. They are not languages. is gravity a law? I ask again Can a language be written by anything other than an Intelligent Being? always calm down and listen... When i say dna is not arbitrary like languages are...im on track .. Chien,hund,and dog are french,german and english for ''dog'' but a ATCGGGA is just as meaningful as ACGGTTC garrit? |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Riddle For Our Atheist Friends by raphieMontella: 8:02pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: So, according to you? Gravity is a code? (Chai!) Do you even know what a code is? i clearly put it -''codes'' what is a code? Codes are arbitrary....dna is not... We are not talking about laws in this riddle. is gravity a ''law''? A code is a program(software) written, on which a process can run. More like an information/instruction. So, gravity is a program on which what runs? is dna a ''program(software)'' or contains a ''program(software''? This is very very embarrassing coming from you. Please educate yourself. dont be hasty bruh..i dnt bluff.... They're are just on different ''scales''... |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by raphieMontella: 7:46pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by raphieMontella: 7:46pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by raphieMontella: 7:44pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
sinequanon: Absolutely, just as music is independent of musical notation.
Nature doesn't care about the models scientists use to describe it. Models have become obsolete, even. The nature they described remains. i mean...musical notation is not independent of music... That depends on context. The context being debated in this thread is Darwin's ToE. glad you understand.... Cheers |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Riddle For Our Atheist Friends by raphieMontella: 7:40pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
4everGod1: Young man chai! I have to shake my head at this your comment. chai and chai again. i hope you saw ''codes'' put in quotation marks on purpose... ....and ''different scales'' so think again... |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Riddle For Our Atheist Friends by raphieMontella: 6:05pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
doctoralien...
This perry marshall's stuff has been dealt with before...
Dna like gravity are ''codes''
just on different scales... |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by raphieMontella: 5:26pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
sinequanon: 1 + 1 = 2 isn't science. It is mathematics. To be precise, it is a mathematical definition.
As for your second rhetorical question, it also shows lack of understanding. There are many examples in the scientific theory of evolution, itself, of co-option and exaptation.
Unfortunately, this is typical. People who follow science mainly through popular media have little idea of what they are supporting. what does scientific theories and science base on? Are laws of physics independent of mathematics and its concepts? Evolution sire...is not darwins theory of evolution...thats where you mistake it... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Can Never Be An Atheist. by raphieMontella: 5:22pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: What the heck man ?! I don't understand your response one bit . Am I talking about Stalin or Hong ? Apparently , you just mentioned The Taiping Rebellion without knowing the story . I thought you knew the story !!
Mtcheew , you atheists are just funny !
Just like the other day , CoolUsername mentioned Confucianism and Taoism and I thought he understood the tenets of those religions . Turned out he knew nothing and was just making senseless arguments .
You guys should just stick to your lame God does not exist arguments and stop mentioning topics you have little or no knowledge about ! chill bro.. you equate communism deaths to atheism as the ''cause''... Saying atheism is political...i wonder when/how ''disbelief in God'' became political... M just going by your logic sire... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Beejay Accepts Promise10's Challenge On Blood Money by raphieMontella: 5:18pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
Hopefullanlord
just watch,promise10 will say that he is a christian,yahweh is against it..bla bla bla |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by raphieMontella: 5:05pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Seun,
You said scientists have a good record of saying the truth.(LOL) In 2007, fishermen caught a very rare creature known as a Coelacanth. Evolutionists originally told us that this “living fossil” had gone extinct 70 million years ago. It turns out that they were only off by 70 million years. See the link here: [url]news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6925784.stm[/url]
Perhaps, the most famous fossil in the history of the theory of evolution, "Piltdown Man", turned out to be a giant hoax. See the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man
Chai! LOL I laugh at the way "scientists" deceive these gullible atheists.
Cc: donffd do you know twas an atheist that discovered the hoax? Now you know... |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by raphieMontella: 5:04pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
sinequanon: Science, itself, isn't about truth. It is about a certain kind of "consistency" and "predictability".
Scientific findings are not "true", they are "currently accepted in the field". Science evolves.
And, in general, scientists are no more honest than anybody else. Because something is "scientifically accepted" does not mean it is true.
The worst recent case of deception in the scientific community is the supposed confirmation of the Higgs Boson.
You will recall that, during the theatrical debacle, designed to justify investment in enhancing the Large Hadron Collider, Stephen Hawking actually pretended that he had lost his bet that the the Higgs Boson did not exsist, and Peter Higgs was awarded the Nobel Prize!! so the 1+1=2 evolves? Or in the future the hearts work will no longer be used for pumping blood? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Can Never Be An Atheist. by raphieMontella: 4:53pm On Sep 30, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Atheism is political - communism is proof .
Christianity is not political in anyway . oh yes it is...the christian democides prove this You need to understand the story . The warlord's subterfuge was simply creating his own version of Christianity to lure fanatics mostly from his ethnic group to overthrow the government . what about stalin he wanted to be the ruler of all nations so he jumped on communism and thats why he even eliminated his communists friends(so long he felt they were planning to overthrow him) btw what do you mean by his version of christianity? Sda's observe the jewish sabbath...does it make them non-christians? Jehovah witnesses take jesus as man and not God..are they non-christians also?make me understand you I want you to think .
1. Hong's soldiers were up to 1 million and they were mostly from his clan , the few others were from minor ethnic groups . so?? In the biblical days... Twas only ''israel''(one country) God knew.. 2. Hong was interested in overthrowing the Qing's dynasty - the clan in power . stalin was obsessed about power too 3. Hong claimed to be the brother of Christ . Seriously ? Don't get me started on how he "discovered" he was Jesus' brother  paul claimed to speak under the power of jesus... Paul never met jesus during his physical ''earth-days''.. So?? 4. Hong added his own books to the bible as the war progressed . divine revelation.. We have many versions of the bible sef presently...so? 5. Historians describe Hong as ostensibly Christian . Look up the word "ostensible" historians describe stalin as a ''dictator''... Ehen?? So claiming the war was fought for a religious cause is ludicrous . Hong used Christianity as a tool to grow his army and overthrow the Manchu Dynasty , also called Qing Dynasty . You don't need to be a genius to figure that out . okay then how is the ''holodomor''(man made famine) done by stalin to ukranians for wanting independence an atheistic cause? Cc kingebukasblog come and explain... |