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manny4life: Dude, I sincerely advised you to stick to what you know. I'm no expert on American economy or the "GAY" topic, but equating both is disturbing. America isn't flourishing because of greed and corruption, sexuality is one of several social issues, however, this isn't related to America's economy. Part of the issues stagnating the U.S. Growth is

Domestic economic policies - on this issue, you have tax laws, unemployment wages, corporate greed, and what not. On the economic and fiscal side, a MAJOR blow to the U.S. is her debt, managing her debt comes with a stiff price, such that it threatens the global economy. Prime example, the U.S. lost more than $30billion in revenues and an estimated $100+billion in economic added value during the 17days shutdown. How do you expect to make up for that?

Foreign polices and global dominance - on this issue, the U.S. has lost credibility at least, fighting three wars, plus trying to be world police, plus their policies and how it affects other nations has direct consequences on the U.S. $$$. When the U.S. made a move against Syria, Russia countered, well guess what? The U.S. $$$ took a hit, and guess who's directly affected by such actions? The U.S. Government and her citizens. Believe it or not, U.S. Foreign policies have some sought of effect on her citizens.

Anyway, I said I won't argue this, believe what you want.

masonkz: Lol. As funny as it sounds, the acceptance of gay people in Nigeria is more realistic than the coming of the Christian' Messiah.

oti-igba:
if nigerians call them selves Religious, why dont we get hold of all the gay people pray for them to healed?

Sagamite: Which countries did God close down?

You want to use your useless fairytales for arguments?

Miss EZ: Do not think that because Countries like the US make it possible for homosexuals to get married, that they are not homophobic. Gay people get bullied and harassed in the US on a daily basis, however, the law makes it possible for gay people to defend themselves and file assault charges where necessary.

I do not have to support someones lifestyle to respect it. I do not believe in polygamy, it doesnt mean that i will disrespect someone who does. Let us learn to differentiate sentiments from the law. The way i see it, it is the same a persecuting someone for their religious beliefs. People should be free to associate with whomever they please, just as long as they are not infringing on the rights of anyone else. I think terrorists such as boko haram should be feared more than homosexuals. Like i said earlier, once we have dealt with more pressing issues, the issue of homosexuals can be revisited. For now, it is inconsequential to the economic development of the country.

manny4life: My friend, please stick to the topic you know. America isn't flourishing not because of your hypothetical theories, but simply, they deviated from their core founding principles. From immigration, wage laws, consumer protection policies which affects unemployment to fiscal, economic and foreign agendas, these are the negatives affecting the U.S. and not some cooked up bs. Please if you want to argue this, look for someone else, but I will set the record straight if I have to.

Flygeriansteve: Hate the 'sin' not the sinner.
PS: Om the flip side, funny even America must have had this cross section of homophobic views in the 1800s. Time will tell.

manny4life: Comparing SA to Russia is dumb and foolishh, compare Russia to the U.S., the result are clear.

Miss EZ: Nigeria has far bigger problems than gay marriage. Insecurity, poverty, education, employment, corruption should be the major cause of concern and not gay marriage. One thing the Nigerian government is good at is distracting people from the main issues. I have noticed Nigerians love to be distracted as long as they can blame someone or something for their woes.

I am NOT in support of a homosexual lifestyle, however, the gay bill is very stupid and a violation of the human rights of the people. It is not the governments business who a person sleeps with as long as it does not involve sexual abuse, rape or pedophilia. Everyone has that right to privacy. To give homosexuals 14 year imprisonment term as against Boko Haram who often gets 3-5 years is really daft and stupid. Misplaced priorities all around. God will help this country.

Nigerian Government should focus on more pressing issues such as corruption, insecurity, education, infrastructural development, healthcare, etc. Once those things are settled, we can begin to worry about homosexuals.

Deha: How can you say that Jesus is Dead and gone? Didnt the same Bible that told you He died,tell you that He arose and ascended into heaven? Why are you this biased?
We know you dont believe in Jesus,but saying things that are not true about Him is wrong! If you read in the bible that he died,then,you should have seen that He arose too....
John20:9 "They still did not understand the scripture which said that He must rise from Death"....
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Do not be like Thomas who said "...Unless i see in His hands the print of nails,and put my finger into the print of the nails,and put my hand into His side,i will not believe"{JOHN20:25}....
Jesus said "Blessed are those who have not seen,and yet have believed"{John20:29} for a reason...
If you dont want to Believe in Jesus Christ,good,but making a caricature of Him? I advice you to stop that please!

philfearon: I am beginning to Love You bro...Yeah,i have been making that mistake of trying to be insistive always as regards to the Likes of JMANO5,Which makes me use obscene words sometimes...But i will try to put a stop to it.....

philfearon: Exactly bro..This is the point i was trying to Prove to that JMANO5 guy,but his ignorance and Stup.idi.t.y got the better of him!!
Thats why JW alwaz end up arguing in every home they go to preach...They think they Know,hope someone will help me tell them the Definition of a "F.O.O.L" is one day!!

Sermwell: Dis man should be hanged abeg joor! His daughters ar better dead 4rm birth dan dis eternal course he is heaping on dem claimin rubbish! Kudos 2 d son! The only sane person among dem

philfearon: You tried,but you and i know that thats not the answer to the question i asked bro...........

philfearon: I have come to know your level of comprehension,and frankly speaking,you should stop showing ur ignorance in public...Just an advice though!
I told you that God is Mystery,and you said its a lie..I asked u 4 simple questions,and you Flawed yourself!! You could have Shut up!!!
Hope u have seen the answer i gave to that ur childish analogy in that "Angel Michael is Jesus " thread?

philfearon: I have come to know your level of comprehension,and frankly speaking,you should stop showing ur ignorance in public...Just an advice though!
I told you that God is Mystery,and you said its a lie..I asked u 4 simple questions,and you Flawed yourself!! You could have Shut up!!!
Hope u have seen the answer i gave to that ur childish analogy in that "Angel Michael is Jesus " thread?

philfearon: Like i said previously, The Perfect knowledge of God remains a mystery,and it is undisputable.
Like i have said in that Jesus being Angel Michael Thread,The greatest aid done to the Bible is to translate it to English,which is God's doing,because,English is the most Spoke language on Earth....In its original form,i wouldnt have understood what the Bible is about,and i would nt be saved;which is nt what God intended..God intended that His words circulate the Earth in a language each will understand..So,get that ur English lexicon to rest.....
The problem is,when God reveals a small atom of Himself to a person,the Person wil think he knows God very well,and starts speaking from that view,forgetting that there are a whole lot of other atoms of God he knows nothing About....
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Okay,lets get into philosophy..
1}Where did God come from?
2}Where have God been b4 he created the universe?
3}God is Spirit...So how does a Spirit have a Spirit in Him?
4}Genesis1:2,Where did the waters{Oceans} that the Spirit of God hovered in come from? Expecially, since nothing was created yet?
....Do well to answer this and don't dodge anyone, since u claim to know God...

philfearon: You will do good,if only you open ur mind....
You said,and i quote "Jesus is God,but not God Almighty"...
So,why do you find it hard to believe that He is God the Son? Whats so hard to believe?...
You believe He is the Son of God,good...Do you want us to go into The Existence of God and The Characteristics and everything about God in a Philosophical way? Do you want us to go deep into the Mystery of God? which i know you know nothing of,except what Your "Awake" tells u!
Do you want us to go into Theodicy? You seem to think that you know God,but i bet you,if you know God from the Philosophical perspective as i do,You will stop exposing your ignorance in Public!!

haibe: Common don't tell me you want to be biased in this case.

If SPIRIT=BREATH or DRY GIN

Can we say BREATH=DRY GIN?

haibe: You see the reason why Nigeria may never grow is because people like you are in authority, people who misuse things just like you are misusing words.

In my words above, I said phantasma means phantom in English and phantom means illusion or a ghost.

Now this is what I said:

PHANTOM=ILLUSION OR A GHOST just like:
MANKIND=MAN OR WOMAN.

NOW can you say MAN=WOMAN according to the equation above??

haibe: Show me where I SAID GHOST MEANS PHANTOM OR ILLUSION.

YOU ARE TOO DULL

So if the word mankind refers to both a man and a woman, does that mean a man=woman? or that man=mankind?

haibe: Show me where I said ghost=illusion. You are so proud to the extent that after finding out I never said it is illusion, you had to go and quote someone else's post as though I was the one that posted it, BE HUMBLE TO ACCEPT MISTAKES, I NEVER SAID GHOST=ILLUSION.

Jesus could not have meant illusion, he described something, an illusion is simply something that appears to be what it is not and cannot be described as not having flesh or bones, use your sense.

Jesus meant ghost not illusion, although phantasma means ghost or illusion but Jesus could not have meant illusion since it doesn't fit the description of not having flesh and bones.

you are confused, quote another person' s post again saying "I SAID".

haibe: look BE HUMBLE, you said earlier that night vigil is wrong and now you are saying the sentence in which it is used is cannot be wrong.

okay let me make it easier for you:

1) Can I use disembodied spirit in a sentence, is this right?

2) Can I use night vigil in a sentence, is this right?

YES or NO answer please, I don't need stories.

Itsfacts: he has always been like this. Change is view each time he posted. I don't even know what he believes. Sometimes he sounds like he is saying ghost exist sometimes he sounds like they don't exist.

in one sentence he will say someone saw a ghost and close the sentence by saying ghost don't exist.

haibe: If truely you are not a deceiver, show me where I said ghost=illusion.

You are funny person my brother.

So if Spirit means breath and an angel, does that mean an angel=breath?

you need to be converted, lol.

haibe: What is the difference between a SPIRITUAL BEING and a SPIRIT BEING.

don't change it to mean spirit and spiritual, you are a deceiver, I said Jesus is a SPIRITUAL BEING in heaven not that jesus is SPIRITUAL.

haibe: @ravgach you are just a bloody liar and a deceiver.

Show me where I said a ghost means an illusion.

Ghost: The disembodied spirit; the soul or spirit of a deceased person; a spirit appearing after death; an apparition; a specter.

noun (plural illusions)(countable)
Anything that seems to be something that it is not.

We saw what looked like a tiger among the trees, but it was anillusion caused by the shadows of the branches.

For education sake.

haibe: Mr man there is difference between spirit and spirit being.

there is difference between spiritual and spiritual being.

Now have I mentioned that Jesus is a spiritual in heaven or that Jesus is a spiritual being in heaven?

Please when you don't understand something, there is no crime in asking questions

haibe: this is what I said, I quote:


The greek word translated ghost in that
verse is PHANTASMA, phantasma means
phantom in english and according to my
dictionary phantom means an illusion or a
ghost

Now show me how this means that a ghost is an illusion.

My brother repent, don't go to hell fire oo because of argument so you won't burn for "all eternity" lol

haibe: this is what I said, I quote:


The greek word translated ghost in that
verse is PHANTASMA, phantasma means
phantom in english and according to my
dictionary phantom means an illusion or a
ghost

Now show me how this means that a ghost is an illusion.

You are being childish. The comments you made are there in 'black and white' and you are trying to twist it. Please be principled.


My brother repent, don't go to hell fire oo because of argument so you won't burn for "all eternity" lol

haibe: You definitely are not different from a deceiver, quoting people wrongly.

You can show me where I said ghost means illusion.

and I will show you where I said phantom means ghost or an illusion.

haibe: and please don't quote me wrong, I never said ghost means an illusion, I said phantom means a ghost or an illusion.

Now go and face all your unanswered questions.