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PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 3:21pm On Sep 12, 2023
This is an American neighborhood, they prefer greenery instead of fences!

PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 3:14pm On Sep 12, 2023
Wodu89:
The mindset matters. Right from the projects conceptualization.

Having supermarket and shopping centres infused into skyscrapers is a way to beautify the city.

Attract people to the building and get secondary and tertiary funds for the building's maintenance and the likes.

The also clime matters too, but for me I'll say Nigerian rich and affluent likes to keep people off. If you think otherwise, how many of your friends who made it before you chose not to de-friend you. Let's start from here.
Hmmm

We have this "Me and My Family Only" mentality

Same way most Nigerians like to fence off their houses with supertall fences, Lol

And the funniest thing be say, If thief come for night, Nah you sef go come open the gate for them, with all your stupid fence!! grin grin
PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 3:08pm On Sep 12, 2023
This is how modern society look like, I watch a video of a foreign YouTuber recently, who complained about this in his first ever visit to Nigeria!

He was so surprised, every building is fenced off!

Window shopping makes street look beautiful,

Affluent areas can afford all the security to keep this place safe, at night, But it seems like they just don't give a damn, They all okay with their sub-standard tower!

PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 3:04pm On Sep 12, 2023
LOVEALAIGBO:
I'm guessing.....to keep out the riff-raff!
Read the post above you!!

It's called affluent areas for a reason, With CCTV camera, All these issues can be curbed!
PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 3:01pm On Sep 12, 2023
I know most corporate Bodies like to fence off their buildings for security reason, But with a CCTV camera placed at every corners of the street, security issues will be curbed to some extent

And besides, if down floors are rented out, There will be so much activities in the streets at night which will some how curb security issues to some extent too, it's easy to steal in a lonely street at night than a lively street with people everywhere!!

PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 2:52pm On Sep 12, 2023
The down floors can be rented out to boutique, Restaurant e.t.c which will make Window shopping possible and will also make the street a fun place at night!

Take a look at this streets in Berlin, Germany

PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 2:48pm On Sep 12, 2023
Abuja is even worse, There's like 15 meters distance from the main building to the main road, It shouldn't be like this!

All these makes the street ugly

PropertiesRe: Why Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 2:46pm On Sep 12, 2023
There are some streets that you can't even take a walk at night, all because most of the buildings in the street has been fenced off, Before 8pm in the night, It will look like a ghost town!!

But by renting out the down floors of those buildings to restaurant and boutique e.t.c, It will make it more lively at night time!

PropertiesWhy Do Affluent Areas In Nigeria Do This? by Raydos(op): 2:40pm On Sep 12, 2023
Why are Most buildings in Nigeria especially commercial towers fenced off?

From the Downtown of Lagos, To The most Affluent areas of Abuja, They all have something in Common, All the Skyscrapers are all fenced off and not open to the public!

This make the city look ugly, In modern society, Skyscrapers down floors are rented out for restaurant, Boutiques, e.t.c, Which makes window-shopping possible!

Photo 1: Madina towers, Lagos

Photo 2: Eko hotel towers, Lagos

TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 8:17pm On Sep 07, 2023
Midastorch:
The United Nations undersecretary General Counter terrorism Office VLADIMIR VORONKOV was in Abuja last week and he affirmed that Abuja is indeed neater than New York.. His PA seconded the motion... Dey there dey bad mouth Nigeria...
Them dey do Oju-Aye grin grin

If them tell you the truth, Una fit call am racism! grin
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 7:10pm On Sep 07, 2023
Ntwrk:
You are just seeking attention, you want Nigeria, an African to turn into a 1st world country by your wish? Even majority of American states are under developed forests.
Odẹ! You don't have to develop Forests, Forests are meant to be left alone to preserve nature or better still used for Farming purposes!!

Neighborhood and Cities are what needs to be developed and upgraded, and America has done that already!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 4:19pm On Sep 07, 2023
ReturnMan:
Thats what the white men made you believe
Made you believe??

Lol, There are still African who are still naked up till today, They call it culture

TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 1:03pm On Sep 07, 2023
lucky4west:
...you are right, the curse that was placed on Ham by Noah is at work among the black race, he is the father of Nimrod, the father cush, ethiopia, egypt etc...i can give you more bro but this is not the time but we can discuss further if you wish...blacks every where are the same, take haiti for instance the only country with 100 percent black population outside Africa dem get the same problem...this is a well researched topic both in secular knowledge and Biblical...facts yapa if you want it deeper
The saddest part is, Black people don't wanna talk about this, they hate taking accountability!! They are always playing the victim card!!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 12:35pm On Sep 07, 2023
qtx:
Which country did u just come from?
Switzerland
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 12:31pm On Sep 07, 2023
Sofistcatdmoron:
Av u been to south be Africa, they have better street view
Better streets built by the whites??, Since blacks took over power, the infrastructure is now dilapidated, Johannesburg is one of the most dangerous cities in the world!!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 9:13am On Sep 07, 2023
nairalanda1:
1.Well, we had been getting modern anemites back then...by 1960, we had a working rail system, a highway system, and the beginnings of a lot of modern cities, including some that were relatively new.

2. We were producing 113500 barrels of crude a day in 1960. Not the 12 million the Saudis were producing now.

3.Even then, again, our population is too large for us to live on oil or any other resource...hence our need to become an exporter of manufactured goods and servicies.
Bro we can't keep making excuses, Over excuses, Over Excuses, It's not going to get us anywhere

No human will progress in life with that mentality, Even if Our population was 5million and we produce 10million barrels of crude oil per day, I bet nothing will still Change!!

The money will continue to get embezzled, All those Middle-east countries you mentioned are very disciplined and do not tolerate Corruption, That's the reason they progressed!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 8:34am On Sep 07, 2023
owagbeba:
It’s not about Low IQ as some have suggested. IT IS THE ABSENCE OF GOVERNANCE!
High IQ translate to Good Governance!

You're likely to make a good decision and think critically, and push your brain beyond limit to solve problems when you have High IQ

While in the other hand, Low IQ Make you worry less about things, And Bad at solving life problems!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 8:26am On Sep 07, 2023
nairalanda1:
Qatar: 1.9 m barrels a day for 1.1 million people
UAE: 2.8m barrels a day for 12 million people
Kuwait: 3million barrels a day for 4.9 million people.
Saudi Arabia : 11million barrels a day for 40 million people


Nigeria: 1.6 million barrels a day for 230 million people.
Nigeria population in the 1960s was only around 45million people, And oil already has been discovered

So Why didn't we start developing the country then? Since we had less population to worry about and more money to go round? And we had to wait for things to blow out of proportion, then we start complaining?

??

TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 8:20am On Sep 07, 2023
Islamisformumu:
Erm, bros, you can't really compare Nigeria's 1.3 million barrels of oil per day and population of 200 million with Saudi Arabia's 12 million barrels per day with a population of just 30 million.

I'm sure you can tell from that kind of distribution that in Saudi Arabia there's simply more money to go around than in an overpopulated wasteland like Nigeria. The same logic applies to the other Gulf states you mentioned like Qatar, UAE, Kuwait etc.
Erm bros, Nigeria population in the 1960s was only around 45million people, And oil already has been discovered

So Why didn't we start developing the country then? Since we had less population to worry about and more money to go round? And we had to wait for things to blow out of proportion, then we start complaining?

TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 7:34am On Sep 07, 2023
nairalanda1:
I was going to log off nairaland, cos I have some stuff to do, but I came across this guy's thread, and as usual, I was amused at the 'Africans are inferior' schitck that I see on threads like this. It always ends up like this.

So, why do our streets look bad?

Simple answer....we don't pay the type of tax that should make our streets look good.

In England, to use an example, every resident of a city (except university students for obvious reasons) pays something called a Council Tax. Which can range from anywhere between 120 pounds sterling to 200 pounds sterling MONTHLY. And it is that money that they use to develop their cities and make them look nice.


In Nigeria, I doubt that 1) anyone pays council or any kind of tax to the city 2) and even if they did it is not enough. And even if a state governor or LG chairman were to attempt to raise money that way, Nigerians, including the OP will cry....LET THE POOR BREATHE.


The harsh truth is that government in Nigeria is being nice to you. If they charged you the kind of taxes they charge in obodo oyinbo, you would cry tears of blood. Instead, they don't, so we share oyel money that is sufficent for a nation of ten million, not the 200 odd million we are.



We better stop shouting at ourselves, and stop abusing our selves, and start facing some home truths. If the whites in England did not pay council tax, their streets would look like African streets in five months. Making cities livable and good COSTS MONEY.
Shut the F**k up!!

Countries Like Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE(Dubai) Kuwait
e.t.c Are not taxing their people as much and they are growing at a faster rate, They have modern cities and towns

They built all these cities with The revenue they generated from selling crude oil, That's why the middle-east is called "Oil Money" countries

Nigeria has the same Oil, What have we done with it?? The money keep getting Embezzled on a daily basis, Can't even build a working refinery since 1960!

Even if all Nigeria pay their taxes, Which we actually pay, Since they deduct it from salaries as VAT, Even the people in the market selling pepper, rice, foodstuffs are given ticket by the government!!

Even bus conductor, Taxis and okada rider are given tickets, These are tax!!


What have we done with it? They keep looting the money and moving to America to enjoy life!


Stop defending rubbish!!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 7:26am On Sep 07, 2023
Reflect7:
You're the epitome of thougtlessness.

Do you know how many countries are on this Earth?

I know you haven't a clue, because you only know ''the USA''.

Plus the rest of the 25% of nations that are 'advanced', in a world of majority DEVELOPING nations and populations who look NOTHING like the USA.

The USA has acquired its wealth, which gives it a 7.6 trillion dollar annual budget (compared to Nigeria's 50 billion dollars), by invading directly or indirectly 198 of the 202 countries on Earth today, killing MILLIONS of people in the process. All geared at accessing resources on the cheap, and economic allegiance.

THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO RICH AND DEVELOPED TODAY.

THROUGH BRIGANDAGE.

So when you are there, and you see all those bright shining lights and facilities that are shacking your head, KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM before demanding that Nigeria ''be like them'', or before ''praying for Nigeria''.

Instead, pray for yourself that the wrath of God does not fall on America (Babylon the Great of Revelations) while you are sitting their praying for Nigeria.

Or that an intercontinental ballistic nuclear missile from the Kremlin doesn't drop on your rooftop.
All these things you typed, They made you know it!!

Stop acting like you make your own research, You only know what they want you to know!

And besides, In the olden days, Even from the time of Bible, Invading countries and starting a war is a normal thing, I've read a lot of Yoruba history like that, Like the Ogun Idahomi e.t.c

The Europeans are just smart with theirs by enriching their people with it, From the beginning of times, The European (White people) had the smallest landmass!

They came from a tiny continent, But today they have the largest landmass, From USA, To Australia, To New Zealand, Even Russia is a white Country!

It takes a lot of work to do all these things!!

Give it to them, They are just too smart!!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 7:15am On Sep 07, 2023
1Sharon:
Why don't YOU shut up? Who do you think you are?

You're just proving the Op's point. They were able to do all those things you alleged because they were able to outsmart you and were more advanced.

If Africans had the capacity, why haven't they replaced those buildings and monuments since 1960?
Singapore was able to build up their country in the same time period.

The black race is the oldest race on the planet and has had a 200,000 year head start. But somehow, you're the babies of this world.
Damn!! grin grin

This is the best response ever!!
Africa had 200,000 year head start, But somehow we're the babies of the world

Bro I am dying, We're so fu**ked up mehn!!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 6:57am On Sep 07, 2023
ovcwality:
Sub Saharan African needs to do better, but from some of your views someone can easily see you are not smart/intelligent
How do you determine who and who is not Intelligent?
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 6:53am On Sep 07, 2023
ovcwality:
op you have a very low IQ, even if they give you Nigeria to govern for 100 years it will not change, because you don't have any solutions. And stop lieing, African countries with a good GDP per Capita have good roads, I followed an Indian they were amazed how the roads were nice, is only when they start reaching Cameroun to western Africa that the roads become horrible again. And all the Caribbean countries with good GDP are neat because the depend on tourism. I have never been there but I have seen some on YouTube, either you have a very low IQ or something must be wrong with your brain
Lol, I bet those Indians went to southern part of Africa, Which was still developed by the whites!!

Black people are yet to build a City!!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 6:29am On Sep 07, 2023
nairalanda1:
That was a part of New York.

There were other pictures of New York that you did not show.

Slums of New York
Even in 1887, it looked more organized than a lot of Nigerian street today!!

And besides, That was in 1887, Show me the same place today, I bet it has been transformed!!

Then show me a streets in Nigeria 70 years ago, compare with today, I bet it still look the same!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 7:56pm On Sep 06, 2023
chisupport:
That's why I laugh when I see some people boasting about how developed the south east is..and how developed Lagos and Abuja are .
Every So called City or town in Nigeria is a mess.

It's an indication of how stupid Africans are 😁😁😁

From Abia to Zamfara
From Enugu to Lagos
From Oyo to Calabar
From port Harcourt to Lokoja
From Owerri to Abuja....

We don't have cities...No planning , No drainages, No proper road network..Just Buildings littered everywhere.


😀😀
Spot on!! They keep arguing over nonsense, I don't open any thread as such once I see the headline!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 7:01pm On Sep 06, 2023
Xtristopher:
That racism shiit annyoned me most. If you are not happy how they treat you return back to where you are treated better they have no shame
I swear, They complain about racism, When we have been killing eachother here for ages!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 6:56pm On Sep 06, 2023
justtoodark:
developed or not....it still remains stolen land....

australia is stolen land too....
dont justify evil because of development....
I can bet you that almost all Nigerian wished Nigeria never gained independence and had stayed under the British colonialism longer, because it will bring more Development

If Nigeria had been stolen too, it would have been more Developed than it is today!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 6:46pm On Sep 06, 2023
We're so damned, We go to their country for Greener pastures while they only come here for Safari, Lol to see animals not even the people

Cos we got nothing to offer!

TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 6:25pm On Sep 06, 2023
tollyboy5:
Haven't you seen how Nigerians steal rail tracks, manhole covers, airport light and other things.
An average Nigeria drops refuse on the floor after eating by the road side or in a bus.
This happens as a result of poverty, You can't see any politicians children doing that because they are all well to do!!

If poverty is eradicated, 70% of our problems will be solved, But on the flip side, We don't even possess the mental capacity to enrich ourselves!!
TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op):
fineboynl:
The problem with black is lack of collective will.

The collective will is how wall of Jericho was built. The collective will is let us build a tower that reach heaven. The tower of Babel. Those things are the collective will blacks do not have.

Black people were never organised and never had a written text or history. They tell stories of the past which contradicts one another. Before the white men came they were naked with leaf and hagered looking.

When some of them begins to proper or get rich they oppressed one another and destroy people preserve to have bright star.

The history of the black race is not very interesting or educative like the other race. Modernization is been forced on us as it was never part of us and reasons we are finding it difficult.

Give a black youths big money. He will start throwing it in the air. Party and sex.
Fact!!!!


Anytime I see a Black person complaining about racism, I immediately get pissed off, Like go back to your Africa shi*thole bro

To me, We've not fully evolve to be human, We're still in the early stage of Evolution

TravelRe: Why Do Most Nigeria Streets Look Like This? by Raydos(op): 4:08pm On Sep 06, 2023
justtoodark:
dont....

dont forget america is stolen land....
dont insult the native americans....
Lol, Stolen land, Built by who??

If it was left to the natives, you think it will be as developed as it is today?

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