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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is God Almighty Apart From His Word? by PSTKYLIFELIGHT(op): 2:06pm

Truthseeker10:
PSTKYLIFELIGHT you have been avoiding my question. Please answer.

So according to you, Revelation 3:14 does not teach that Jesus is a creature neither does It teach that Jesus is the creator even though the verse claims that Jesus is "the Beginning of God's creation", Yes or no?

Yes, I will answer directly.

No, Revelation 3:14 does not teach that Jesus is a creature.

And no, Revelation 3:14 by itself is not a standalone statement saying, "Jesus is the Creator" in the sense that the entire doctrine rests on that one verse alone.

What it does teach is that Jesus is "the arche of the creation of God." The dispute is over what "arche" means in that context.

You have assumed that "arche" must mean "the first thing created." But that is the very point that must be proven, not assumed.

If John intended "first creature," there were clearer Greek expressions available to communicate that idea. Instead, he chose "arche," a word that can mean beginning, origin, source, first cause, or ruler depending on context.

Now here is the critical issue:

Whatever meaning you assign to Revelation 3:14 must harmonize with the rest of John's writings.

John 1:3 says:

"All things were made through Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made."

That leaves only two possibilities:

Either Christ belongs to the category of things that were made, or He does not.

If He belongs to that category, then John 1:3 creates a contradiction because Christ would have had to make Himself.

If He does not belong to that category, then Revelation 3:14 cannot mean He is the first creature.

Therefore, the interpretation of Revelation 3:14 that best fits John's own theology is that Christ is the origin, source, or sovereign beginning of God's creation, not the first item within creation.

Notice also that Revelation was written by the same apostle who recorded:

"In the beginning was the Word."

Not "came into existence."

Not "was created."

But "was."

John deliberately distinguishes between the eternal existence of the Word and the coming into existence of created things.

So the real question is not whether Revelation 3:14 contains the word "arche." Everyone agrees that it does.

The real question is whether your interpretation of "arche" can coexist with John 1:1, John 1:3, Colossians 1:16 to 17, Hebrews 1:2, and the rest of the New Testament witness.

That is where the "first creature" interpretation encounters its greatest difficulty.

A doctrine is not established by isolating one possible meaning of one word. It is established by reading that word in harmony with the entire testimony of Scripture.

Politics › Re: Boko Haram Terrorists Now Spreading To South-west, Ahmad Lawan Warns by sweerychick(f): 2:06pm

Actually actions have consequences.. I can never forget that statement Tinubu made ""where are the cows? Is Evans a herdsman?"" Just because of yeye politics, even said Fulani and Yoruba are one.. honestly Tinubu has sold out the SW..

Crime › Re: Kidnapper Video Tracksuit Looks Like That Of The Fulani Caught In Osun Forest by McLizbae: 2:05pm

Those two you mentioned are actually the reset botton. Any thing else is just deleting.. 🤣
And that is major reason why approving automatic weapons for civilians may never happen.

Nukilia:
The reset will affect the politicians and criminal within the security agencies...

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by NasirIbnLaAhad: 2:05pm

Goke7:
Oga the YouTube page I watched the friendly match had 30k views which tells you how Nigerians will do anything to watch the eagles no matter the conditions we are still one of the largest passionate fans out there

In all honesty, 30k views is pretty tame/unimpressive for a country like Nigeria with our footballing pedigree, population and sporting culture. Although, I personally wouldn't attribute the low YouTube views to a lack of fan interest - that one has more to do with a fragmented official media presence, thanks or no thanks to NFF. That being said, I'd say that interest in Nigerian football has definitely taken a massive nosedive over the recent years, mostly because of our poor World Cup campaign. The last time I can say our national team had serious hype around it in recent memory was during our AFCON 2023 run where we eventually made the finals. But it won't stay down forever. I think we either need an AFCON title or another World Cup appearance, and things will be back to the way they were. Real Nigerian soccer fans don't stay angry at the NT forever.

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Family › Re: Your Relationship, How Spiritual Elements Affects It. by Deepspirituals(op): 2:05pm

Don't Ignore Spiritual Realities.

Ignoring The Causes of Your Situations and Approaching Solutions that is Unrelated is the Greatest Mistake and a Waste of Time.

You Grow Old Every Minute ...

Think.and think

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Culture › Re: D’anville’s 1747 Map: Royaume D’ibo by TheophilusOkere(op): 2:04pm

Chapter Three: The Testimony of Lisbon, 1590

Verse 1: From the Arquivo Histórico Ultramarino, Lisbon.
Verse 2: Códice 478, folio 112, São Tomé Factory Log.
Verse 3: The year: One thousand, five hundred and ninety.
Verse 4: One hundred and twenty-four years before the first British treaty in the Bight.
Verse 5: The Portuguese write: 'The Heebo bring ivory and pepper in great quantity.'
Verse 6: They note trade. They note wealth. They note volume.
Verse 7: The Portuguese write: 'They are a people with many towns.'
Verse 8: Not a village. Towns. Plural. Urban centres.
Verse 9: The Portuguese write: 'And their own kings.'
Verse 10: Not chiefs. Not headmen. Kings. Plural. Political structure.
Verse 11: The Portuguese write: 'They will not be ruled by the Calabar.'
Verse 12: Sovereignty. They reject foreign dominion.
Verse 13: In 1590, three facts are recorded.
Verse 14: One: The Igbo were a trading nation.
Verse 15: Two: The Igbo had kings and towns.
Verse 16: Three: The Igbo were politically independent.
Verse 17: This is Portugal testifying. A rival empire.
Verse 18: France said 'Royaume d'Ibo' in 1747.
Verse 19: Holland said 'Nation to be feared' in 1753.
Verse 20: Portugal said 'People with their own kings' in 1590.

Three empires. One testimony. One nation. Before Nigeria.

Chapter Three.

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Culture › Re: Sex In The Dream( Wet Dream) Always A Day Before Interviews/ Great Promise by Deepspirituals(op): 2:04pm

It's a Day of an Appointment that Could Change your Story for the Better .An Apportionment with Good Destiny.

But a Day before the day of Appointment,there you go Again Having Sex in the Dream ..

It's been Happening Always ,Rather than fighting against this Spiritually You still decides to Ignore it while you Waste your Time .

It Could be Crazy to be the Architect of one's Predicament Knowingly

Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megawealth01: 2:04pm

Jaakay:
They have cashed out on VFD. From 11.40 to 10.10 naira. Dump activated, 10% gain in the bag

Foreign Affairs › Re: US House Passes Resolution To End Iran War by QuinQ(op): 2:04pm

Caseless:
They don't think.

You are the ones who don't think. This is not a war. Iran has ZERO air defence. If US decides to carpet bomb Iran tommorrow WHAT will Iran do?? THINK!

Crime › Re: Sarah Ojodomo Idoko, Kogi University Student Found Dead by shortgun(m): 2:04pm

She may have died naturally in a man's house or a friend but to avoid being thrown into jail without any investigation by the Nigerian police the man just had to leave her corpse where her people will find her.
We all know how the police in imo state kept the boyfriend of that murdered Imo state nurse in jail even after the real murderers have been arrested by the same police in the same imo state
Yet they still kept her boyfriend locked up. The girl's parents had to come to social media to appeal to the police to release the innocent boy. .

Crime › Re: 5 Kwara ECWA Worshippers Die In Captivity by DEROXMAN: 2:04pm

UkoAnnang:

God go punish Bola Ahmed Tinubu, everyone in his government and those who supported him to power and those who Intend to vote him in the coming election

His nairaland e-worriors are not exclude in the punishment of God

ever since we don dey go inec office they are claiming there is no network because they know that people are angry and peoole want this qnimals but but sha no wahala

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Crime › Re: Nigerian Out On Bail Re-Arrested With Drugs Worth ₦4.3 Million In Delhi by iamfraud(f): 2:04pm

esnbrutality:
You cry tooo much...and when Biafra Republic is attained will you still bother yourself about IGBOs?

Get a life

I wish I had power to grant you your BiaBia

Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Jaakay: 2:03pm

They have cashed out on VFD. From 11.40 to 10.10 naira. Dump activated, 10% gain in the bag

Politics › Re: Osun State To Buy New Security Drones After 5 Previously Bought Goes 'Missing' by Northsouth(m): 2:03pm

anonimi:
Rationalising corruption of tribalistic turn by turn zoning and rotation, is obviously not complex for you.

How do we make progress sustainably if we continue with this arrangement and attitude towards governance

you're asking questions as if you don't know Nigeria system
I have already explained and expressed everything I can, you just choose not to understand vividly.

There's no solution unless disintegration
That's it
You can go back to my expressions and read it carefully enough instead of repeating questions over and over again

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Crime › Re: 5 Kwara ECWA Worshippers Die In Captivity by tarboshi(m): 2:03pm

Does Nigeria really deserve these?

Crime › Re: 5 Kwara ECWA Worshippers Die In Captivity by goslowgoslow(m): 2:03pm

ObaOfYorubaLand:
Tinubu, Tinubu, what a mess in Nigeria and Yorubas are supporting this wicked evil regime because it's their kinsman.

Indeed, He must vacate Asorock.

If you never mention Yoruba your life will not be okay. All these tribalists on NL you all need to be excommunicated from this forum.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:03pm

Kog45:
Hmm,my man he turned to Okoye now,na players we go blame abi,na so some tried to blame Aina for that Tunisia goal against Okoye...Okoye should thank his star that no be competitive or knock out match,all this turechi no go work,yes a screamer can beat any keeper and any keeper can save it....fact,Nigeria vs Morocco if na Okoye we would have lost that match in 90 mins

Even you are not sure of that Morocco game if it's Okoye,

Be honest Sir you are not Sure, just assumed we might lost if it's him

Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Says ‘there Would Be No Israel’ If Not For Him After Clash With Netanyahu by Truvelisback(m): 2:03pm

Trump is about to fall. If he isn't careful, his fall would be disastrous. Pride wants to kill him. Who saved him several times from being assassinated? Besides, Israel can fight Iran alone, yes but they just chose to do things with the U.S because they are allies.

Politics › Re: NDC Members Protest Against NDC by AdUlAM(m): 2:03pm

Oga Tinubu nor know anybody for you lineage not to talk of sending you.

Chucks13:
You go sabi by 2027 who send me. Untill you all know say devil has come to live permanently in Nigeria its then you cry cry babies will sit calm.

Nigeria is already on the cross road its "gree for me I gree for you, you nor gree for me I nor go gree for you. You nor gree for Tinubu and we too will neva eva gree for obi."

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:03pm

TemporaryHansel:
Shey na Lord Lugard cause this one too? Even if Nigeria is balkanized into 50 different countries, it'll result in 50 failed mini Nigerias. Cursed region.

What is the correlation between the video and the Lord Luggard discussion?

Romance › Re: After A Serious Commitment Should I Let Her Go Or Keep Trying To Get Her by obynokoko: 2:03pm

wfjimmytobby:
There is this calm girl and decent I met about a year and half ago. We met and vibe then start about a week after we met.

She was loving real, not materialistic and very smart, this make me fall more for her..

She was in her final year in school when we meet and she didn’t let her studies affect our relationship. She was always active, infact she was more dedicated and active than me. So I made up my mind that after she is done with school and all I should be able to probably settle down with her.

So fast forward to a month ago, she suddenly changed. She stopped talking to me reply my messages and kept asking her what’s wrong she ain’t giving me any answer despite all my efforts..

Then after that she asked me to leave her alone…though she didn’t block me on her socials and she is not doing any suspicious it really shocking to me. For a girl that craves for my attention all this time and after have already start giving her my 100% she suddenly switch and wants me to leave her alone..

It really surprising and after I thought about everything the only wrong was that I do get mad at her if we had an appointment and she didn’t turn up that’s all..we didn’t even fight or argued much through out the time we were together…now in the situation the question is should I just give up on her and move on or I should give it more time hoping to get answers to what’s wrong…

Bro leave her and move.she has seen another man and you will be wasting your time trying to bring her back

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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by minfelix(m): 2:03pm

do4luv14:
I had watched that clips twice today again, I tell you not even nuer or cortoise can keep out that shot, for a minute I thought the ball was going in a straight line, ahbi na breeze blow am go another direction??,

By then Okoye was already in motion, if it had gone as projected it's an easy catch or a tipping over, buh that swerving ehn hmmm

I calm down to watch that shot also…despite the breeze curly effect of the ball, it was bound for the left side of the net, meaning if Okoye had positioned to a close proximity between himself and the space in between that left side of the net where the ball entered he would have had a brilliant punch…
In 2002 When Paul scholes got his pass from a midfielder he tilted towards the left to pick a spot where he would release a bullet, Enyeama also tilted to closed the space between himself and the left side of the net…thats why he was able to punch that ball from scholes
Okoye was far from that left corner space, he would have adjusted a bit to close the wide gap between himself and the left space of the net when he saw that polish player was tilting towards left to pick a shot spot

Politics › Re: Oyo Lawmakers Oppose Call For Negotiation With Kidnappers Of Students, Teachers by success1smyn(m): 2:02pm

gigabyte13:
Story plenty, Google about their involvement with terrorism and how they combat them .

US don't negotiate with terrorists. It's as simple as that.

Celebrities › Re: Why I Can’t Commit To One Woman – Flavour (Video) by marvel2011(m): 2:02pm

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Says ‘there Would Be No Israel’ If Not For Him After Clash With Netanyahu by Lifeless2018: 2:02pm

You don't know Israel is a nuclear power State that can wipe off Iran

Morenikeji090:
Keep your mouth shot… Israel is not America…. America is the one protecting isreal if America back off isreal will see hell frm iran…

Crime › Re: 2 Men Caught Stealing Crates Of Beer, Forced To Drink It All by Oisagbai78: 2:02pm

This old video of Army wey dey punish Civilians with Free beer na im u just changed the topic? U see as nobody comment on am?

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