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AfroCynic:
Rivers' election results annulled, Amaechi is now the Governor, Wow!

PSTKYLIFELIGHT:
Your conclusion goes far beyond what the text actually says.

First, Proverbs 8 never identifies the speaker as Jesus Christ. The chapter is a poetic personification of wisdom. Wisdom is portrayed as a woman calling out in the streets, building a house, preparing a banquet, and inviting people to dine. If you insist that every detail refers literally to Christ, then consistency would require treating Christ as a female figure who built a house with seven pillars and prepared a banquet. The literary genre itself shows that wisdom is being personified.

Second, even if someone believes Proverbs 8 foreshadows Christ, the passage still does not say that GOD created the Son and then used Him to create everything else. That idea is being imported into the text.

Third, Colossians 1:16 does not say "all other things." It says:

"For by Him all things were created."

The word "other" is absent from the Greek text. It was inserted by some translators because they had already assumed Christ was a creature. If Paul meant "all other things," he knew how to say it. He did not.

Fourth, Paul's argument in Colossians destroys the idea that Christ is part of creation. He says:

"For by Him all things were created... whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities... all things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things."

If Christ belongs to the category of created things, then Paul's statement becomes self defeating. Christ would have had to create Himself before creating everything else, which is impossible.

Fifth, notice the language Paul uses. He does not merely say Christ existed before other creatures. He says:

"He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together."

Paul presents Christ as standing on the Creator side of the Creator creation distinction. Everything that exists depends on Him for its continued existence.

Finally, the idea that the Father created the Son to keep Him company or make Him happy is not found anywhere in Scripture. That is speculation, not exegesis. The scriptures consistently present the Son as sharing the Father's glory before the world existed (John 17:5), as existing in the form of GOD before His incarnation (Philippians 2:6), and as the One through whom all things came into existence (John 1:3).

The issue is not whether the Son worked with the Father in creation. Christians gladly affirm that. The issue is whether the Son is part of creation. The apostolic writings repeatedly place Him outside the created order as the One through whom all created things came into being.

That is why the scripture says all things were created through Him, for Him, and are sustained by Him. Those are not descriptions of a creature. They are descriptions of One who stands above creation itself.

helinues:
They don't even have a vote at all

RealityKings1:
Why lock him up for revealing facts?
I hope you know you can find any image online and share it. He found it on online and shared it.

muyico:
Oh
Now understand
Sharing plates
To collect foods
Normal things
Obi self
Don serve foods b4
Nothing special about it

123jamessmith:
That Fernandez nor good o. Nwaiwu better pass am by far.

Penguin2:
I would have loved for Wike to lose out but the APC primaries remain valid because it was the National body of the party that organized the primary.

But Wike’s lackeys will still lose.

bluefilm:
This one cannot repent

Counterigbolies:
tell us about south east too?

Lovelink1991:
So they have many votes?

Counterigbolies:
obi should go n b d president of Lagos n Abuja

helinues:
Poor you you couldn't read between the lines

dominique:
Very secretive, from dad
Generous to a fault, from mum


My husband don complain tire

Arrowhead71:
Where did read of flatten iran in 3 days.....
And America and Israel want to liberate Iran citizens from Islamic Iran regime grip.....so how is flatten entire Iran part of the goal

Igbophobia:
Are you Rhino Omockery? You talk so serpentine though I can't fathom your species. Even Atiku ba?

Lovelink1991:
Thank you. You just hit the nail on the head now

doctore212:
If I get this kind money, na to enter Ghana , book one full hotel for one month.

Pay all the oloshos in Ghana for one month and enjoy till eternity.

My love for oloshos knows no boundaries