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Olawrites:
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Igboid:
Mouthpiece in Igala is "Ukomu" no?

I never said that Onu is not an Igala title. I'm actually arguing that it is.
What I'm also arguing is that it means "lord" or King.
And that it is a cognate of "Olu" seen in Yoruba.

Maybe you need to look up the word "cognate" in linguistics.
For example, the Igala word for land "Ane", is a cognate to Igbo word for land, ie "Ana", "Ani" "Ala" and "Ali",depending on part of Igboland involved.

Well bro you are enlighten the fact remains that in this life we are all inter related until politics decided us all

Igboid:
I can't make sense of this verbose and edited response.

I never said Igala came from Yoruba. I said that Igala ancestors were same people as Yoruba ancestors, until the Ebira migrated down and cut Igala ancestors off from Yorubas (Okun). This is the point Igala started differing from Yoruba, and when Igala met aboriginal Igbos in parts of Kogi East and assimilated them, they ended up creating a new language from Yoruba which was made more distinct by Jukun subjugation and Idoma influence on Igala.

Igala is a relatively new creation. Igala = Igbo + Yoruba +Idoma + Jukun.

Yoruba is clearly centuries older than Igala formation. Igala language is Yoruboid.

Ibaji represents a disproportionate mixture of Igbo and aboriginals Yoruboid base of Igala, where Igbos seem to have contributed more percentage of the mixture than in other parts of Igala.
The typical Ibaji man is Igbo in physical look and to large extent, mentality too.

Igbos didn't borrow red cap from Igala.


If Igalas will not recognize the existence of pockets of Igbo speaking groups whether bilingual or monolingual in Igbo language in Kogi East, like you lots are currently doing.
Be rest assured that Igala in due time will also have to give up claims to pockets of Igala communities in Anambra North, Enugu North and Anioma.

What is good for the goose is also after all, also good for the gander.

You have refused to acknowledge the existence and presence of Igbo speaking groups in Kogi East. Choosing rather to refer to them as migrants and tenants. But you want Ndiigbo to not brand you as migrants in Anambra, Enugu and Anioma.
Just pray Nigeria continues to exist, because the day Nigeria ceases to exist, will be the end of you and other aggressive minorities (Edo and Ijaw) who are looking to annex parts of Igboland you were accommodated in as refugees or which your ancestors invaded.

Take note that we know our boundaries and will not be gentle in reclaiming them and laying to waste anyone or anything that would stand on our way.

You are close a bit but I don't buy that your idea that Yoruba is older than igala .
Just because modern literature says igala language is yorubaiod means igala is from them

Mother's tongue tells a lot , if igala women dis not give birth to yorubas together with Benin father called oduduwa then how come Yoruba and igala language have some similarities.
As for ibaji people I know there are some of them that mingles and you are right about that but today they don't agree to be Igbo no matter their behavior .
But if they want to be called Igbo well it's up to them to go to the eze Igbo council and propose themselves.

Even the igalas outside kogi pay homage to Attah of igala

Now who is at a fair chance of recognition

Is it the igbos in southern kogi that don't want to meet up with igbos leaders and voice themselves or the igalas outside kogi who are already documented

Igboid:
I didn't say it's Yoruba.
I said its cognate of the Yoruba word "Olu".

Onu means Lord/King in Igala

Olu means Lord in Yoruba.
Igala is a Yoruboid language.

It is.... It is exactly pronounced that way ! Onu Ebu is the title of their king and what they call their king toll date meaning Spokesperson or mouthpiece of Ebu

Or can you tell me what Onu means I'm Igala

You lied on Onu being Yoruba and I caught you now you don change post !

They have been igbonized period... You keep saying things you aw not sure of... Just like you made a mention of Ibaaji... Dude go and drink sir... It's Sunday

Onu is called chief in igala land oga ok it's an igala title not Igbo

Every igala no matter have their Onu (Ohnuh)..remember not the same pronounced as Igbo version of onu (Ornu)

So if Ebu cheif bear Onu as title that is to tell you they know their customers n traditions and they speak igala till date

MelesZenawi:
why will they speak igala when igbo is their root.

You are a psycho ..ebi speak enuani Igbo as a second language they adopt based on their enclaves around Igbo speaking and they are a small community made up of nine villages ..they are originally from.idah and they aknowledge it and they speak igala witin themselves in Ebu dialect
They do visit idah anytime there is festivals

Igbo is not their root but igala ok

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MelesZenawi:
move out of here nd don't disturb us with that ur non existent igala link

They are Igbos and speak igbo language.

no igala in anambra state

it is paining him hahaha everyone knows that the inhabitants of these communities in nzam are Igalas so stop being childish

They need their town in igala and it's evidently shown so stop being miserable

Igboid:
Egypt is too far. Take a look at Igala language. It's basically a Yoruba language with Igbo corruption. The other non Igbo and non Yoruba parts of the language are imprints from Edo and Jukun.
This is common sense.

If the Ebira didn't migrate and separate Igala from Okun people, Igala would have retained touch with Yoruba language changes over time and would by now remain an integral part of Yoruba land.
You don't also need a soothsayer to know that many parts of Ibaji are actually Igalanized Igbo enclaves.
As the Jukuns pushed southwards under pressure from the Caliphate, the Igala pushed Southwards as both refugees and invaders and occupied parts of lands originally inhabited by Igbo speaking aboriginals. What happened in Ibaji, Akpanya and Co, now claimed by Igalas, was about happening in Igbo heartland of Nsukka and Anambra north where we have Igala invaders and refuges now co existing with Igbos.
The history of Nzam and the invasion by General Ajida portrayed this history very well.

History is science and do follow logical sequence.
Telling me Igala fell off from Egypt or Igbo from Israel is irrational and doesn't make sense.

See I understand all your ideas these thing you wrote here are false it has been made to believe by some writers and i can believe that most igbos in ibaji and odolu igalamela who settled there were as a result of migration with from way back wars and farming and other natural causes which in those days nobody have time for segregration .

People welcome people to settle with them, and you saying igala came from yoruba its a big lie...then where is yoruba from? Oduduwa fell from the sky abi?

Oduduwa is a run away prince from benin who was even named oduduwa by the igalas when he settled in Idah as he fled away for fear of being killed in benin he went northward the river niger and it was idah and the then Attah welcome him and gave him comfort because he looked rich and well fed and they allowed him to lived amongt igala which he then moved to another part of igala land called ife and married some igala women about three of them and gave birth to children ..then he moved to a third migration southwards .

to present day location and it was the name he got form the ife in igala land he used to name the present day ile ife in present day yoruba kingdom.

Then he gave birth to oraimyan and some of his children , oramiyan later went back to benin to rule and they could not understand his language because he has been taught igala tonation which is what we call a mother tongue ( if your mama born you and speak your native dialect no be the dialect you go understand when growing up).
so that was how oramiyan went to benin n ruled a while but he was having difficulties to communicate with the benins he left there to ibadan and continue by then his dialect has changed to what we know as yoruba..

WHY DO YOU THINK YORUBA LANGUAGE N IGALA ARE THE SAME ALMOST ORALLY

these yorubasdont even agree their progenitor are from benin kingdom with igala mother , instead they say benin are from them..so sad because of population explosion and education and returned slaves of the modern time to add up their population.

see what other connection igbos have with igalas tell me ..Yorubas own is so clear and i will let you know igbos came to igala land just for settlement like the other igalas that left idah to ibaji n illah and nzam and asaba as well and presently in Ebu in Oshimili north in delta speaks igalas till today they know their origin is from idah


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Ibajis then started mixing with igbos and edos due to trading and influence of the river Niger nearness and this foster marriage within these tribes but that does not stop ibajis from n ot being igalas till today they are still igalas
as for the case of eko avurugu and ette and akpanya its the same similarity , igbos settled there due to settlement and trade and mixed up. same way igalas settled in Nsukka and mixed with them as well , infact influencing many of Naukka traditions from masquerades and red cap which igbos wear today is from iagala and Attah onced ruled there hope you are aware.

its goes within the two community within the borders of igalas and igbos we coexist butijn terms of ancestry we got noting in comon much, we both have influenced ourselves in marriages and trades only the yoruba i can attest because of the language.

remember in the ancient time people travel a lot.

UdechiHD:
So if people are talking, a conquered Igala tribe still ruled by the Jukun monarchy will be talking too. What an insult! From history, Idah your capital has been faced with one rulership to another. First were the Bini’s who gave you the name Idah (in honour to Queen Idia) and Attah in honour of the first Benin Prince to rule you (Aji Attah). And second came, the Jukuns led by the (Idoma warriors) who your Kingship still worship and lately the Fulani who your Attah still bows to from Sokoto, can you tell us any good thing about Igalaland?

Your ethnic group is the true definition of mix blood. From the Yoruba’s who you left centuries ago, to Egbira who pushed you further to settle at the plains of Igboland (present Igaland was Igbo aboriginal). The Igbos gave you your spirituality, later the Idoma came to Jukunize you, and recently the Hausa who you called for help to fight the Jukuns, but who stayed back and are now Igalas (their offspring now the people of Ankpa), can you tell us the ethnic pride of a mud blood people?

Now the question is, how can a mud blood people birth a proud race as the Anioma (an offspring of the Igbo people)? Where in Anioma is this Igala heritage you speak about found? Can a tribe with no good history of their servitude origin claim to have a stake in a place they were never aborigines. If I were your people, I'll look towards north or even Yorubaland to claim brotherhood, because in time coming we may even annex Ibaji, Igalamela Odolu etc and other Igbo heritage areas that you slavish Akpotu stock grabbed from your sojourned from Okun land.

Igboid:
Idah was not always Igala. Idah was first occupied by proto Igbo and Proto Yoruboid speakers, with sprinkle of Edoids. That was until the Jukuns came and conquered all the groups present and united them under the Attah dynasty.
The Attah is a Jukun man, he knows it. But the Igala are not Jukuns. They are the end product of Yoruboid, Igbo, Edoid and Idoma mixture.
The Igbos in Idah were said to be under the leadership of a certain Achadu.

There is nothing old about Igala. Igala is relatively new. That you had access to better weapons from Trans Saharan trade with which your Jukun conquerors used to terrorize parts of Northern Igbo, does not make you an ancient people.
Even your Attah knows the truth.


Would you mind telling us the origin of the Igala people?

"Talking about the origin of the Igala people, a sizeable group migrated from Wukari in Taraba State from where they came to Benue along the River Benue and continued very close to the confluence at a place called Amagede by River Benue and slightly down from Amagede downwards to Idah and they settled there. And there, they met a sizeable population of the Yorubas and the Benins and to some extent, some Igbo. So the migrant population from Wukari merged with them and produced a language called Igala as a people "

~ Attah Igala

https://punchng.com/im-first-attah-in-igala-history-with-one-wife-ameh-oboni/?amp=1

Everybody with their own version of Igala history well so how come Igals traced their history to ancient egypt and every thing can be found

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Igboid:
Bottom line is that you can't claim because few Igala migrants running away from the Jukuns and were accommodated by peaceful indigenous Igbos of Midwest, that Anioma is no longer Igbo because they harboured Igala and Edo refugees.

Because the same can be said of Igala and Edo.

Igala in particular has Igbo component from the very beginning before the arrival of your Jukun overlords. We still know that places like Eke Avurugo, Akpanya, and parts of Ibaji are all not yet fully Igalanized in Kogi East. The aboriginal Igbos there are still showing signs of their Igbo heritage.
Can we now say that Igala is not Igala, because Igbos were involved from the very beginning of foundation of Igala and there are yet Igbo speaking and bilingual Igbo speaking communities in Kogi East?

this is a fact but these people were as a result of settlement that is all and intermarriage within time that is just it remmeber in the ancient time noting like state and border and politics all they do is conquering lands and kingdom

b. Nzam

Enekpa
Etakolo
Echa
Igeje
Urubi
Odobo
Okpoliba
Uda

c. Olumbanasaa

Alla
Igbokenyi
Inoma
Odekpe
Igbedor
Odomagwu
Onugwa

how does the name of these town sound to you is it not igala?

yes they may be in present day anambra but they are igalas ok

Igboid:
Keep quiet. Igala itself is an amalgam of Igbo and Yoruba, with a sprinkle of Idoma and Edo, who were conquered and currently ruled by Jukun dynasty from old Kwararafa kingdom.

Your Igala has Igbo in it right from onset. We even still have Igbo speaking enclaves in Kogi East.
If the Igbo, Edo and Yoruba in Igala didn't make Kogi East to stop being Igala , why should few migrant but assimilated Edo and Igala people in Anioma now mean that Anioma should no longer be Igbo?
Doesn't Edo and Igala have Igbo migrants there as well?
I don't blame you Edo and Igala, I blame the confused lots in Anioma who can't make use of their common sense.

Trash haha igala that is as old than many of the offsping tribe , you are saying they made us....Hey oga you dont know what you are saying..who are idomas when you mention igala history?

Igalas are igalas by tribe ok older than any of these tribes who came to settle in idah way back because idah always welcome other tribes and now you are saying igalas came from them.

Chinobastardaw:
Anambra is cursed worthless igala people and no where close to being igbo.. The real igbos are Abia, Ebonyi, Imo and Enugu

Anambra is a cursed worthless erosion ravaged shithole village of igala Town and you confirmed it too

Stop this bro you are funny ..Yes northern anambra share origin with Southern igalas

For you to say all anambra are Igalas is wrong even you can even find igalas in Ette town in Enugu ezike community Nsukka as well have element of igalas witin them as well and Izzi ezza in ebonyi north close to Agila in benue they are idomas who are also from igalas by heritage

That does not make the general population of these state igala by ancestry
The way you are bombarding this thread calling all anambra people igala is ridiculous ..

Chinobastardaw:
An airport that will soon be washed off by erosion chino? Anambra doesn't deserve an airport.. Most people in onitsha will always prefer to use the Asaba airport than the umueri airport that is almost situated in kogi state(igala land)

Chino Anambra should tackle its moral problems first and stop their fathers from raping their daughters

Truth they don't need the airport they just need seaport form onitsh which will open trade witin the river Niger communities
Asaba airport is just ok for them

Johnandv:
His dad said he's Igbo..
Don Jazzy said he's Igbo in an interview I watched when the issue between him and Dbanj ensued. Stop saying what you don't know Mr.

Wait do you know donjazzy background more than me

I laugh don jazzy can be regarded as half Igbo ndokwa n isoko is where is father heritage lies and his mum Igbo simple stop arguing ok
Maybe they joking said they are IGbo base on association

But by hertage they are not fully blooded Igbo pls

IDENNAA:
Anioma people are considered Igbo by reputable historians. Stop crying over spilt milk.

You guys just like toothless fight where have I said aniomas are not igbos I said they are presently igbos from various origin simple

You dont Even know how and anioma was formed form history and the tribes it comprises

They can also be classified as sub Igbo heritage

Johnandv:
Don Jazzy and his father have both said they are Igbos, so what's you people's problems in this useless Nairaland sef?. Even Don Jazy's mom is from Abia State. So whats your problem??

Don jazzy never ever said he is Igbo ..he always say delta ok and from his dad side ndokwa and isoko and his mum a core Igbo from abia

So he is half Igbo ok

IDENNAA:
Asaba has very little Igala migrants and this is evident in their cultures. Nobody speaks Igala language in Asaba.

I did not say they speak igala ok it's from the onset that historical every body have been assimilated way back in the ancient time

Even illah also were 60 percent igalas

But today they don't speak igala anymore

Only Ebu in Oshimili north speak igala and they were the last day migrated from idah to present day ebu which was ceeded from old Bendel state to delta state ok

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