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alexis007:It is normal to have recommendations, even far more rampant in the military. But there has always been a line, imaginary yet existent. If you followed what I wrote, I used the uniben med school to give an example. Everyone cannot score a very high score, 50% of students would fall between 25-75%, and even more real is the fact that the curve would be right skewed. So what happens to these people when they are forced to contend for slots with recommended students? And note that most of these recommendees have very low or average scores. So saying that you should get a very high score is like saying everyone should score 300 which is impossible |
Diye:I don't think so.. it would be like the old days. Then the schools would give admissions based on Jamb score and choice. Assuming each department takes 100 students, they'll take the top 100 JAMB scores who put that course as first choice. That would be first batch. If his/her score doesn't fall within the top 100 in first choice, but enters second choice, then she is given. Second batch. The supplementary list would contain people with good scores who didn't make their first or second choice. These ones are redistributed and used to fill up the admission quota. And all the lists are published in the national dailies. |
druxy:I agree the 5th point isn't what I wanted up there, pardon me, I wrote this post during an extremely boring meeting. What I was trying say was that, JAMB using Item Response theory is one reason why people complained that the scores were not as they expected. The other reason being unpreparedness on the part of the student. I agree that JAMB may not fully understand IRT, but they don't really need to, all they need is a tool or software running it and they get their results. I could give you an insight on the theory if you want. Jamb has improved considerably, the only hitch is the ICT network issues which will normally improve with time. Last JAMB 80% did NOT see answers before exam. People who wrote the exam know that they didn't even repeat questions except for the recommended text part. When questions leak, everyone knows. Finally, some schools have excellent screening processes while those of the other majority are fraught with irregularities. What I expected from NLs is a call for transparency such as demanding that every school publishes admission list with raw scores, Parents being made aware of SERVICOM in federal schools as a means of querying perceived foul play. Have a beautiful day |
alexis007:Post UME makes it easy to carry out such activities. Far easier |
adrusa:And that is why JAMB wanted to start redistribution of students, so that students with average scores won't rot away studying rubbish in their preferred institutions. |
Topmaike007:Yeah.. I'm in life's school |
Why Post Ume MUST be scrapped completely. This is not a response thread to Matolysis's, as I find his interesting but bereft of facts and also lacks awareness of the current tertiary admission process. No apologies. In our time it was strictly JAMB , if you score high, the higher your chances. Though there was malpractice then, JAMB has improved today especially with Computer based testing introduction. I have wards who passed through the PUME process, which is significantly different from our time, for example, now many schools do not invite second choice for their screening and this is at variance with JAMB procedure. I am also an insider of sorts in the PUME process, and I'll use the Uniben scenario to give reasons why PUME is illegal and must be scrapped and defaulting schools prosecuted. 1. Post UME infringes on the sole power right of Jamb/UTME to give admissions. If you go through the JAMB act, it states that only the body has the right to conduct exams after charging fees, give undergraduate admissions, carryout placements in Universities, Polytechnics and Colleges of Education. The universities are only supposed to send their requirements and preferences. The only exception is Post graduate admissions. But today Universities charge another amount , sometimes higher than JAMB's to conduct a parallel exam clearly defying the act, and give admissions using methods known to no one else. Uniben announced admission screening fee of 2000 and optional 1000 for past questions. But the reality is that, processing Uniben PUME/ ASE 2016 costs 3550. There is no option there, it just displays this amount and asks for MasterCard/Verve details. 2. Secondly, Post UME is not transparent, it is even more fraud prone than JAMB. CBT has greatly reduced fraud, eliminating text message answers, buying answers online and impersonation. We now have biometric check in and check out, and CBT even makes the exam easier to invigilate as candidates are forced to stare at their screens and nothing else. A bonus is the availability of system calculator which wasn't totally available in the era of pencil test. BUT Pume is not even standardized, no preparation syllabus, some schools purposely set questions from A-Level just to be wicked and reduce number of successful people, others are known for giving very little time. And at the end they just send admission notification without pasting any list publicly and denying some admission even after surpassing the JAMB cutoff. 3. Post UME introduces avenues for special candidates getting better courses. Special candidates refers to Royal father's recommendees , governor's candidates , VC's candidates, staff children and state of origin waivers etc These sets of people would score less than others and must get admitted , in many cases get their course of choice. In Uniben, to enter the college of Medicine, staff kids have their cutoff 10marks below regular cut off. So while a normal candidate aims for 70, they'll aim for 60. After taking the number of staff kids they want, the rest is filled with merit and government/royal candidates. And they all wrote the same JAMB. And the non staff candidates who fall under 60 < x < 70 are pushed to pharmacy and Life Sciences. That is one reason why they do not release cutoff before results, as they need to fit in their people first and adjust and that's why majority of the post ume era medical graduates are children of doctors and professors; Not because Medicine runs in their veins but because corruption runs instead. There have also been reports of score upgrade in different schools including UNIBEN. And That is what gives rise to fraudsters, result checkers and predators who take advantage of candidates giving them fake admission. And the school waits till final year exams before publishing lists of fake students, meanwhile they've been collecting school fees from 100L. 4. Post UME destroys the JAMB score. For instance , someone who scored 280 in JAMB would have his score divided by 8 giving 35 and this will be added to half the PUME score. Another person who scored 240 would see his score transformed to 30.. only 5 marks difference. Assuming the second guy scores 70 in PUMe and the first guy scores 60, after dividing by two and adding to both Jamb scores, the two aggregate scores would be equal! The PUME now more weighted than JAMB. That's why it is possible to "pass 220 and not enter school". One would expect that the PUME score is the one divided and transformed after all it is the illegal exam! 5. PUME makes it difficult for Jamb to monitor admissions. An admission body that is relegated in its own game. One would expect that at this time parents would clamour for schools to start pasting their admission lists with raw scores attached. not a case of someone with 53 given Law and another person with 65 reading Foreign languages when they both put Law as first choice. Jamb is still a major exam that can never be replaced by the schemes of money-for-grades lecturers. Some may argue that Jamb scores are lower than students expect. This is because of Item Response Psychometric testing method, which is why people talk about negative marking etc. This method does not aggregate all the questions gotten correct, instead questions carry different marks depending on the set difficulty and depending on how many people answer that question. And PUME has seen schools flooded with kids without emotional intelligence and they can't fend for themselves, they rush through and pass out and it doesn't even seem like they went to school. |
APC would be clear winners except in esan land who have always preferred PDP over APC who gave them potable water and roads, and that na why e go hard to produce governor from there.. Overall APC 70% |
Is that a pun? ....savage Nigeria's economy |
omofunaab:I'm moved by your post.. One would expect that as someone who's mother's from akoko-edo you would be able to teach your Yoruba kin the difference between edo and Bini.. The argument is not that edo people do not bear yoruboid names but that Bini people bear Yoruba names which is almost totally incorrect. The girl's full name is Sandra Osagioduwa Ogunsuyi that's a Bini girl's name. I'd expected more from you |
hrykanu231:e be like say you sef dey chop |
MoneyGreen:no be fake story ooo... men must tread carefully in those areas lest strange things happen |
hrykanu231:You should reserve that question for the LG chairman |
na so dis road dey ever be.. dis is the road going to obubra from Ikom, then onwards to ugep where human meat is available, then finally to calabar |
missprudence:I know.. I was just kidding |
The painful part is that they would seek more avenues to strengthen their position as untouchables. Those thieves are not even supposed to deliberate constitutional change, what happened to the national conference report? I will take them serious when bills are passed to make vital bodies like RMAFC, CCB/CCT and others truly independent. ...and when they agree to cut their salaries too |
PapaBrowne:I never thought you were Bini.. I offer my friendship and goodwill.. And if by chance an honest man like yourself should make enemies, then they would become my enemies. And then they would fear you. |
PapaBrowne:I saw a math trick you did once, and I followed you. I like Smart people |
missprudence:una school get anthem? I thought it was.. "... for information, ... for entertainment, ...and enlightenment. we are the best, Independent TV!! tune in to us.. Independent TV ...certainly the best " ![]() just kidding |
Edo College we all hail you Our own bright star, a beacon so true A fountain of knowledge, you the honoured one Great is your noble stance You have brought forth, offspring of sterling stuff We will maintain your noble role A pinnacle of good ideas Continuous is your production line Instilled at least in them is the sense of service Devotion to our God The nation too has tested your greatness We are proud to be your products We, offspring of your noble womb Must keep the College’s flag flying high We will practice and show your lofty ideas To God and to mankind For thus perpetuate and immortalize Our beloved Edo College |
Willzkid:OSAGIODUWA meaning IT IS GOD THAT DIRECTS THE PATH TO SUCCESS ![]() Yeah.. case closed |
I'm sorry I came late.. So far, the Yoruba have not been able to tell us the meaning of Ogunsuyi.. I believe we have credible Yorubas on NL who have turned a blind eye too, so for their sake and the benefit of the general public we would turn this thread into a teaching thread. The first point is that most people do not know the difference between Edo, edo state, benin and Bini.. edo originally referred to benin kingdom and people who speak the edo (Bini) language. Benin is the headquarters of that kingdom. Today the whole sate is known as Edo state, meaning Bini,Esan, Etsako, Akoko-edo, Owan, Igbanke, and other smaller groups with their distinct languages are all Edo people. So next time you say Edo man you could be referring to lots of people, but a Bini man is a Bini or Benin man (though he's found in other LGs too ) The verb "sē" means to surpass or to be greater than, or more important than something else. Our people have always borne names comparing two subjects, as if they were trying to prioritize them. For example; Omosefe. meaning child is greater than wealth Omosigho. meaning child is greater than money Osasuyi God is greater than honour Obaseki The OBA is greater than (the) market / trade Oviasuyi Ovia is greater than honour Omosuyi. A child is greater than honour Osasogie. God is greater than the ruler etc Finally, Ogun,Osun (osunematon) , Ovia , Okhuahe, Orhiomwon , Olokun etc are deities worshipped in Edo land. There is even ongoing controversy concerning the origin of Ifa - Oguega (Iha), that's another issue. People also bear names reverencing these deities, that's where Ogunsuyi falls in. Others are: Oviasuyi Ovia is greater than honour Igbinosun. I run to / embrace Osun Igbinogun. figure it out Ogunrobo - Ogun is my doctor Izevbokun Igbinoba. I run to/ embrace the OBA Ogunsefe - Ogun is greater than wealth We would not have been having this discussion 25 years ago, because our fathers travelled more than us, majority of whom have never gone west of sango-ota, names like this were commonplace and seun wasn't born then. But christianization has forced many to change their names especially to Igbinosa ; I embrace God, from igbinogun, igbinosun,igbinokun etc Ijesurobo ; Jesus is my doctor, from Ogunrobo Osasuyi , same as the above Osasogie etc Thanks for watching baby124 shogz89 karm16 cc bokohalal |
baby124:K |
shogz89:what does the name mean? |
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mrvitalis:this sun is too hot |
KINGinVAHALA2:I tire for them ooo |
EdCure:Yeah.. Oshodin played his cards wrong. Before the demolition fiasco everyone loved him (except the esan of course).. He is probably the best VC Uniben has had in the recent past... But I don't know why he became a A PDP tool, a sick man's cup and rubbished his track record and goodwill the people had for him. Concerning the bigotry? Who isn't? He is a bigot like Michael Ibadin, Godwin Okpere, Oserhiemen Osunbor and Adams Oshiomhole.. Before he came in, the Ibos and esan had completely overrun UNIBEN and UBTH , but he balanced things out and tipped the scales, just the way Ibadin is doing with esan people in UBTH.. Even the few months that osunbor was in govt , we know the gate phrase for entering govt house.. so no be today! Oshodin was the first Bini VC in an institution established since the 70s and they nearly killed him for it. Before he came majority of professors were of Ibo , esan and delta state extraction. There was no homegrown rule [sic] in employment or admissions, but he changed that. Throughout his tenure his DVCs were all esan.. he promoted them too but they wanted absolute power so they could award fictitious contracts like the old days.. Is that good enough? |
Mopolchi:Accommodate what? He made a generalization that the SS states are all PDP because of the 95 - 5% schism in the country. Edo Indig know what PDP did to us, and the role Iyamu played , and he's currently backed by the same people who robbed us then. I shouldn't even be explaining this because you're a stranger too, you wouldn't understand these things |
And the writer failed to mention that the binis hate obaseki.. We also hate PDP and Dan orbih... The best candidate would have been Godwin Oshodin running on APC platform.. There would have been no need for an election |
I don't understand what you meant by the word "Easier".