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25Calibre: Look at these Catholics practicing idolatry, for God's sake, what happened to the name of Jesus Christ, what's all this Mary talk?

And where the hell did the Catholics hear that Mary ascended into heaven? Mary died like a mere mortal
and was buried, there are ongoing searches for burial site in Israel.

Catholics stop this heresy !!!!!'

Mumu. itz assumption not ascension

lacum: pls God, forgive me for not going for mass on this holy day to honoure our lady. am sorry

evenin mass dey. luk for any parish

tweegep: Wonderful write up and very well thought out on Both side of the arguement. God bless the writer.

amen. GOD BLESS YU

fixmykey: THANKS BROTHER FOR BUILDING MY FAITH

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Good morning all. Moderators please-front page material on the assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Today is her feast day. Letz see what nairalanders think about this. Thanks.

https://www.nairaland.com/1397768/what-assumption

The Assumption

The doctrine of the Assumption says that at the end of her life on earth Mary was assumed, body and soul, into heaven, just as Enoch, Elijah, and perhaps others had been before her. It’s also necessary to keep in mind what the Assumption is not. Some people think Catholics believe Mary "ascended" into heaven. That’s not correct. Christ, by his own power, ascended into heaven. Mary was assumed or taken up into heaven by God. She didn’t do it under her own power.

The Church has never formally defined whether she died or not, and the integrity of the doctrine of the Assumption would not be impaired if she did not in fact die, but the almost universal consensus is that she did die. Pope Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus (1950), defined that Mary, "after the completion of her earthly life" (note the silence regarding her death), "was assumed body and soul into the glory of heaven."

The possibility of a bodily assumption before the Second Coming is suggested by Matthew 27:52–53: "[T]he tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many." Did all these Old Testament saints die and have to be buried all over again? There is no record of that, but it is recorded by early Church writers that they were assumed into heaven, or at least into that temporary state of rest and happiness often called "paradise," where the righteous people from the Old Testament era waited until Christ’s resurrection (cf. Luke 16:22, 23:43; Heb. 11:1–40; 1 Pet. 4:6), after which they were brought into the eternal bliss of heaven.



No Remains
There is also what might be called the negative historical proof for Mary’s Assumption. It is easy to document that, from the first, Christians gave homage to saints, including many about whom we now know little or nothing. Cities vied for the title of the last resting place of the most famous saints. Rome, for example, houses the tombs of Peter and Paul, Peter’s tomb being under the high altar of St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. In the early Christian centuries relics of saints were zealously guarded and highly prized. The bones of those martyred in the Coliseum, for instance, were quickly gathered up and preserved—there are many accounts of this in the biographies of those who gave their lives for the faith.

It is agreed upon that Mary ended her life in Jerusalem, or perhaps in Ephesus. However, neither those cities nor any other claimed her remains, though there are claims about possessing her (temporary) tomb. And why did no city claim the bones of Mary? Apparently because there weren’t any bones to claim, and people knew it. Here was Mary, certainly the most privileged of all the saints, certainly the most saintly, but we have no record of her bodily remains being venerated anywhere.



Complement to the Immaculate Conception
Over the centuries, the Fathers and the Doctors of the Church spoke often about the fittingness of the privilege of Mary’s Assumption. The speculative grounds considered include Mary’s freedom from sin, her Motherhood of God, her perpetual virginity, and—the key—her union with the salvific work of Christ.

The dogma is especially fitting when one examines the honor that was given to the ark of the covenant. It contained the manna (bread from heaven), stone tablets of the ten commandments (the word of God), and the staff of Aaron (a symbol of Israel’s high priesthood). Because of its contents, it was made of incorruptible wood, and Psalm 132:8 said, "Arise, O Lord, and go to thy resting place, thou and the ark of thy might." If this vessel was given such honor, how much more should Mary be kept from corruption, since she is the new ark—who carried the real bread from heaven, the Word of God, and the high priest of the New Covenant, Jesus Christ.

Some argue that the new ark is not Mary, but the body of Jesus. Even if this were the case, it is worth noting that 1 Chronicles 15:14 records that the persons who bore the ark were to be sanctified. There would be no sense in sanctifying men who carried a box, and not sanctifying the womb who carried God himself! After all, wisdom will not dwell "in a body under debt of sin" (Wis. 1:4 NAB).

But there is more than just fittingness. After all, if Mary is immaculately conceived, then it would follow that she would not suffer the corruption in the grave, which is a consequence of sin [Gen. 3:17, 19].



Mary’s Cooperation
Mary freely and actively cooperated in a unique way with God’s plan of salvation (Luke 1:38; Gal. 4:4). Like any mother, she was never separated from the suffering of her Son (Luke 2:35), and Scripture promises that those who share in the sufferings of Christ will share in his glory (Rom. 8:17). Since she suffered a unique interior martyrdom, it is appropriate that Jesus would honor her with a unique glory.

All Christians believe that one day we will all be raised in a glorious form and then caught up and rendered immaculate to be with Jesus forever (1 Thess. 4:17; Rev. 21:27). As the first person to say "yes" to the good news of Jesus (Luke 1:38), Mary is in a sense the prototypical Christian, and received early the blessings we will all one day be given.



The Bible Only?
Since the Immaculate Conception and Assumption are not explicit in Scripture, Fundamentalists conclude that the doctrines are false. Here, of course, we get into an entirely separate matter, the question of sola scriptura, or the Protestant "Bible only" theory. There is no room in this tract to consider that idea. Let it just be said that if the position of the Catholic Church is true, then the notion of sola scriptura is false. There is then no problem with the Church officially defining a doctrine which is not explicitly in Scripture, so long as it is not in contradiction to Scripture.

The Catholic Church was commissioned by Christ to teach all nations and to teach them infallibly—guided, as he promised, by the Holy Spirit until the end of the world (John 14:26, 16:13). The mere fact that the Church teaches that something is definitely true is a guarantee that it is true (cf. Matt. 28:18-20, Luke 10:16, 1 Tim. 3:15). .

REFERENCES: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assumption_of_Ma
ry.
http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandholidays/p/
Assumption.htm
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02006b.htm

peppy luv: My dear those pple are realy confused. On good fridays their women wear black and they will tell u they are mourning with mary!(Abeg is it not honouring her like d catholics do?) All of a sudden they started doin ash wed which some of their members don't like! Their women have a uniform with the face of mary but they wil say its mary slessor abi na wetin b d woman surname,can't remember sha...so many catholic doctrines that they are gradually adding to theirs.. In 2010 some Anglican Revs wanted to come back but the catholics said NO cuz they are married!but they can come in as members. This argument came up in Holy cross gwarimpa whr Tony oneweek(now a Hon) jokingly told d priest that some pple left d seminary becos of women so if the vatican approves of d anglican priests stil being priest in d church then he will go back to d seminary! it was funny thou but he made sense.. As a frnd(the man I talked abt in my 1st post) said"the catholic is a strong institution whose constitution are not flexible in fear or favor of anyone or anytin,if u don't like their way simply walk away!"
WITHOUT THE VATICAN THERE WILL BE NO DATE FOR ALL THE CHRISTIAN FEASTS(pentecost,ash wednesday,good friday,easter,xmas,and becos we dnt do mothers day and fathers day with them,some of them will want to kill themselves ) BEING CELEBRATED IN THE WORLD!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA............ itz so funny sha. but our ppl say: 'agaracha must come back' itz manifesting.

Sal C: I couldn,t have said it better.
On the Anglican marriage issue, I've seen where the marriage did not hold because of this issue and I don't just get that madness.

Wow seriously? Hmmmmm, am jst gettin to kw ds frm yu nd peppy. de actually ask weda u reject d saints and @ d same tym name deir ministries after saints?

Sweetlemon: ehn! that video and the one where she was f.ingered is more viral than the HIV virus. In fact, what am I even saying sef? The video is everywhere! Hardly any guy I know that doesn't have them!
Tufiakwa! how can a mere $300k buy my dignity?
I strongly believe she won't win, she's not as lucky as Karen cos there are very strong house mates for her to contend with. Don't forget that this is Africa and any female contestants who ever had sex in the bba house in history of bba got the boot once up for evictions.

she was finge-red? for real? hmmm. Nairaland i wrote fin-gered not manipulated!

Sanandreas10: that is why you are still ignorant and dunce?
What has that Got to do..
mtcheew??.
Has Any moslem evered bomb your area bfore.......
Your ideology is Below standard, Go to Saudi Arabia ??have u evered heard of bomb cases there that is where real Islam Is.....!!!so,Never u uttered such gibberish from ya Vocal Cavity AgAin??..Okay??..

i reserved My Moment..!!

it is not 'never you uttered...'. It is 'never you utter'...

peppy luv: My brother Stop decieving ur self,every christian denomination believes in the trinity and that does not mean that Jesus is God! Thou d Anglicans don't deny that they beliv in the trinity.
U all steal our doctrines and try to make it look different from the catholc way! I cudnt stop laughing when an anglican frnd said the sign of the crosss is not 'a catholic thing" and this frnd is so anti catholic and says I carry it on my head lol how? becos I can't stop displaying hw proud I am of it on bb?I hate religious arguement evn thou am bein forced to cuz I get provoked. Crazyman a moderator banned me from NYC section simpy becos I said I was proud of NACC(national association of catholic corpers)meanwhl NCCF were praising their own and immediatly I said somtin they attacked me and whl trying to defend myself(without insults!God wil bear me witness,I was banned till feb 15th 2014! So I wudnt say or promote NACC till I finish my service year!Y d hate for catholics
somtyms our xtian brothers say d unimaginable and I keep wondering "y d hate"?we acknowledge d fact that some of our clergies hv made mistakes and gone astray but who are we to judge if God has forgiven them. Are your clergies innocent or is it becos d catholic church is popular and for that notin is hidden. I dnt hv time to start posting crimes commited by other demonination's clergy just to start an un necessary argument here. All orthodox churches(who later produced the protestants) came out from catholic and we all say d creed together which includes beliving in d holy catholic church till date!
I knw them especialy anglicans to take our doctrines and try to make it look diff.eg they dnt belive in d saints but they name their churches after a saint! Point of correction we dnt worship them but we see them as role models for the life they lived. "There is no saint without a past and no sinner without a future"- st Augustine.
This was one of d reasons why a convert(an elderly yoruba man in church of assmuption asokoro and his 2nd reason was becos of my ex parish priest fr George Ehusani whose preaching he watched and followed closely evry sunday on AIT) came back to the church,he said the anglicans "plucked d fruit witout knwing how it was planted" so he came back to the farm to knw more abt d fruit and how its been planted"! A marriage nearly ended when an Anglican Rev askd a bride(who was catholic) do u reject calling d name of d saints in prayers(don't argue this cuz I hear protestants calling on the God of Oyedepo and Abioye and their demi god pastors!),the grl said NO! Do u reject d Rosary? she said "NO!I married my husband cuz of love not religion" meanwhl d church was bearing the name of a saint!! If u dnt acknwledge them(saints)then y bear the name leave it for the catholics that declared them saints. My mum cudnt stop sighing cuz they dnt knw they hv planted a seed of division in that home!if the bride had made up her mind to submissively follow her husband to anglican forever she may not want to do it again!
I dnt want us to start arguing about new converts here cuz evryday silently,those who hv gone from the church come back. Our doors are open for whoever wants to walk in or out,we dnt need customers to pay tithe. D church has enuf!
That aside, ur pastors bless u and end prayers with "in the name of the father, son and holy ghost!" Abeg is that not the trinity or is it becos u dnt do the sign of the cross u now feel its not the trinity u r acknowledging by saying that? Wake up from ur slumber man,u think u knw d bible more than a jnr seminarian not to talk of the Pope! Lol *smh for ur dumbness*
WITHOUT THE CATHOLICS THEIR WILL BE NO BIBLE! A fact that only fools argue, so if u r one come on then
I knw ur next arguement wil be that we worship mary lol don't worry we are ok with that ok. Let it b our headache.
Some of u say u want to save the catholics from hell *lol* u hypocrite! Save ursef 1st! Deliver ursef from ur uncountable lies,fornication,adultery,abortion,injustice, man's inhumanity to man,bribery and corruption, theft,backbiting,hate,gossip,envy,jealousy,anger and so on! Then when u r clean only then will u be worthy of saving 2billion pple from hell!!

Enough of d battle of supremacy btwn christians and muslims after all there are so many world religions. I always told my frnd that if I wasn't a catholic I wud hv been a Buddahist! Yes u heard me.
If u wanna knw y go and do a research about them and u will knw y!not trying to search for negative things after al evry religion has something questionable abt it! They do! Or do u want me to start picking out verse from the bible and koran that will make u ask and wonder if God really said and did all this? Especially in the old testament!
That is y I dnt blame the aetheist (not this fake ones in nairaland that are frustrated but scholars,successful men and women who didnt fast and pray or pay tithe to become who they are!those ones who have studied in and out of that book u think u knw better and with what is happening in this world they keep asking does God really exist)
but I stil beliv in my creator cuz I didn't bring myself into this world.
Religion will not take me to heaven but it guides me. I believe in PEACE(truly from d hrt laying aside all grudges and mistakes like the pope is asking),SERVICE TO GOD AND HUMANITY(not like a pharisee or hypocrite) as my greatest means of salvation!
I really dnt care what anyone's opinion is after reading this. I made my point not trying to argue or start a war of words with anyone. LEAVE CATHOLICS ALONE all u haters!
PEACE! SHALOM!!

Oh, Peppy I love you.

PLS DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN USE MY TECNO Q1 AS A MODEM TO BROWSE ON MY LAPTOP? IS IT POSSIBLE?

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italo: Where do you get your lies from?

Show us.

LOL!!

where is Jesoul (searchn seriouslyy)

italo: I dont know how you people decide to make up your own statement and start arguing against it. You are the one who said God is only in the Catholic Church, not me.

God is indeed everywhere e.g schools, homes, barrack, fellowships etc. God is even with all people e.g Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists etc...but that does not make all these people and/or places the ONE Church that Jesus founded.

Sorry if it hurts you...but there is only one Church that was founded by Christ 2000 years ago.

there is only one church. the rest are ministries

Is the Bible alone (sola scriptura) the sole rule of faith?
Nope.
Jesus left us a Church over 2000 years ago to teach, govern
and sanctify in His name until the end of time. Catholics
accept the Bible as an authority in matters of faith because it
is God's inspired Word. However, we do not believe it to be
the only rule of faith.
Why?
First of all, the Bible tells us that Jesus left us a Church with
divine authority to govern in His name. (Matthew 16:13-20,
18:18, Luke 10:16). Christ also promised that the Church
would last until the end of time. (Matthew 16:18, 28:19-20,
John 14:16). The Bible also tells us that Sacred Tradition is to
be followed alongside Sacred Scripture. (2 Thess 2:15, 3:6).
Sola Scriptura is not biblical. The doctrine of sola scripture is
not even found in Scripture. In fact, the Bible tells us that we
need more than just the Bible alone, for it says that not
everything Jesus said and did is recorded in Holy Scripture.
(John 21:25) and that we must hold fast to oral tradition - the
"preached" Word of God. (1 Cor 11:2; 1 Pet 1:25.)
The Bible clearly tells us that it is the Church that is the "pillar
and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15)
Papal authority has strong support in Scripture, and can be
traced back historically. Peter was appointed the first Pope by
Christ Himself - he was given the "Keys to the Kingdom of
Heaven." What a beautiful gift. To no one else does Christ give
this ruling power. The popes as Christ's vicars are the visible
heads of Christ's Church while Christ is the invisible and
supreme head. For those who think Peter was not infallible,
why do they accept his two letters (found in the Bible) as
inspired (infallible)?
Remember, the canon of the Bible was officially determined in
the fourth century by Catholic councils and Catholic popes.
The Catholic Church determined what books belonged in the
Bible. We needed the authority of the Church (outside the Bible
"alone" to determine what books belonged in the Bible.
Leaving the Bible up for personal interpretation leads to
thousands of different interpretations of Scripture. Think
about the U.S. Constitution - - an authority (the Supreme
Court) was established to guard, guarantee and officially
interpret it - without it there would be chaos and endless
divisions as everyone acting as their own authority. God is a
God of order, not disorder. There is no way he would have left
us with his Holy word without an authority to guard and
officially interpret it. That just doesn't make sense.
Sola Scripture was unheard of before the Reformation , it is
not biblical, it is not historical, and is not logical. Jesus left us
a Church, who several hundred years later, decided what
books belonged in the Bible. Thank God for our Magisterium,
for Holy Scripture, and for Holy Tradition. ♥

talk2chichi: am sorry to say, I don't know why you pentecostals don't know how to interpret the Holy Bible.

Permit me to answer your questions.

1. No; a married man can't become a priest, because it is not part of our doctrine.
2. No; a catholic priest who decides to get married while he is still a priest, can't be allowed to remain a priest because he has broken the law.

Reasons, please read with me for more explanations (Good News Bible);
1st corinthians 7:24-25,27-28,32-38.

24. My brothers each one should remain in fellowship with God in the same condition as he was when he was called.

25. Concerning the present distressn I think it is better for a man to stay as he is.

27. Have you got a wife? Then dontry get rid of her. Are you unmarried? Then don't look for a wife.

28. But if you do marry, you haven't committed a sin; and if an unmarried woman marries, she hasn't committed a sin. But I would rather spare you the everyday troubles that married people will have.

32. I would like you to be free from worry. An unmarried man concerns himself with the Lord's work, because he is trying to please the Lord.

33. But a married man concerns himself with worldly matters, because he wants to please his wife.

34. And so he is pulled in two directions. An unmarried woman or a virgin concerns herself with the Lors's work, because she wants to be dedicated both in body and spirit; but a married woman concerns herself with worldly matters, because she wants to please her husband.

35. I am saying this because I want to help you. I am not trying to put restrictions on you. Instead, I want you to do what is right and proper, and to give yourselves completely to the Lord'd service without any reservation.

36. In the case of an engaged couple who have decided not to marry: if the man feels that he is not acting properly towards the girl and if his passions are too strong and he feels that they ought to marry, then they should get married, as he wants to. There is no sin in this.

37. But if a man, without being forced to do so, has firmly made up his mind not to marry, and if he has his will under complete control and has already decided in his own mind what to do-then he does well not to marry the girl.

38. So the man who marries does well, but the one who doesn't marry does even better.


Does that scripture not speak of free will to Marry or not?

Yes the Bible did, but the same bible tells us that the man who doesn't marry does even better than the man that marry. It all about choice as it as been well explained in the Holy Bible.

So, when you read through you will know why catholic priest does not marry or married man are not allowed to become a priest, they are to give their selves completely to the Lord's service that is the catholic doctrine.

I know I have answered your questions. Thanks

lol, chichi relax na, why are u stressi urself? relax dear, it is really hard to drop the shackles of mumurity. she knows she has made a public show o her foolishess so its hard for her to accept at this point. d msg is VERY CLEAR. And doz hu av sense av seen it. dm de force psn to b priest? No! if u marry, fine. if not, fine. leave the mumu alone, her mumurity is concnetrated.

naijadeyhia: [b]It is so strange how the Word of God condemns the Catholic religion in plain Words; yet, Catholics BLINDLY follow the Pope and priests. It says in Matthew 23:9, in black and white, even in the Catholic Douay Bible, not to call any man "Father." Yet, that is exactly what Catholics call their priests, cardinals, and Bishops.

The Bible plainly states in 1st Timothy 4:1-3 that false teachers would come to us, teaching doctrine of devils: forbidding to marry, and forbidding to eat meat. The celibacy requirement for all priests is a devilish doctrine. The Catholic forbiddance of meat, or certain meats, on certain days, are doctrines of devils. God plainly tells us to enjoy the meat He has given us to eat, as long as we are thankful for it (1st Timothy 4:4).

Mark 7:6-13 plainly teaches that we are never to follow the traditions of men. Yet, the Catholic religion is one big conglomerate of traditions fabricated over the centuries. It wasn't until the year 1950 that Pope Pious XII decided to make the Assumption of Mary an official Catholic doctrine, a doctrine not found anywhere in the Bible.

Exodus 20:4,5 couldn't be any clearer that even BOWING down to a statue is idolatry. Yet, Catholics foolishly claim that they are not worshipping the statues they are bowing down to. BUT, God forbids us from even bowing to statues. In fact, the Bible is so clear on this matter that the Vatican has even REMOVED the second of the Ten Commandments to deceive you. No wonder 1st Timothy 4:2 states, "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron." Everything that the Catholic Church has taught you is twisted, corrupted, and damnable!!!

And their conscience's are calloused, harder than steel. In the old days, a wounded soldier would sterilize and seal his would by placing a red-hot sword over the affected area. Ouch! As you can imagine, placing a red-hot sword over any area of your body is going to kill all sensation to that area for a very long time. The Bible teaches that false prophets have their hearts seared, as with a hot iron. In other words, the same sun that melt the wax, hardens the clay. The Bible directs us to "Refuse profane and old wives' fables..." Every Catholic needs to REFUSE to believe the lies of Catholicism any longer, and turn instead to the precious Word of God.[/b]

1st corinthians 7:30-38. emphasising on 32, 33 & 38. mumu

naijadeyhia: [b]"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats..." (1st Timothy 4:1-3). It's not difficult at all to EXPOSE the demonic Catholic faith if a person is simply willing to believe the Bible over Catholic tradition--but that's the BIG PROBLEM ... Jesus said in Matthew 15:9, "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." The Bible teaches that Peter had a wife (Matthew 8:14). Yet, Catholic priests are wrongfully denied the God-given privilege to marry. The results have been tragic.

It's almost impossible to convince a Catholic that all of their priests, archbishops, cardinals, and even the Popes are heretics. I can tell you with great certain my friend--they are all LIARS! How can I be so bold as to say such a thing? It's simply because I have in my hand the eternal, inspired, inerrant, infallible, preserved, Words of God. Most Catholics DON'T genuinely believe the Bible. Rather, they have sold their souls to a bunch of religious charlatans (priests) who commit blasphemy by claiming to have the power to forgive your sins.

Even the self-righteous hypocritical Pharisees knew better than to be so arrogant as to claim the power to forgive someone's sin ... "And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying ... Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" Woe unto the Catholic Church, for it is a prisonhouse of religion. Romans 10:3,4 proclaims, "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."[/b]

HERE COMES A GREATER MUMU. who told u any priest claims to have the power to forgive sins? READ JOHN 20:23 yu mumu. nonsense

4everGod: [b]Oh, listen my friend, you'd better forsake the evil w/hore of Catholicism and instead seek the truth. Jesus said in John 4:23 that God the Father seeks for people who will worship Him in spirit and truth; not in religious ceremony and falsehood. Catholicism is religion, religion and more religion; but true Christianity is of spirit and truth. Catholics don't care about the truth; they blindly believe whatever their priests tell them. The final authority of the Catholic Church is the Vatican; whereas the Final Authority of the true Church is the Word of God. Damn the Catholic Church!

I mean no unkindness. I love all people, Catholics included. However, I do hate Satanic deceptions and lies that blind men to the truth of God's Word. You cannot worship God in Sacraments (a word not even found in the Bible). God wants to be worshipped in spirit from our heart. John 17:17 tells us that God's Word is truth, which sanctifies us. 1st Peter 1:23 tells us that we are born-again by the Seed of God's holy Word. Yet, Catholics are brainwashed by their Catechisms, manmade traditions and doctrines of devils. I speak only the truth. Religion is a road to Hell and destruction (Matthew 7:21-23).[/b]

NOW I AM CONVINCED THAT WE HAVE A MUMU RUNNING FREELY ON NAIRALAND. HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!! MUMU DETECTED! U ARE DEALING ON 'sola scriptura' is the word Bible found in the Bible? why are u spilling ur ignorance lyk dis? i de shame for u O! D VERY CATHOLICS YUR CRITICISIG WER D ONES WHO COMPIED DS VERY BIBLE U ARE MAKING NOISE ABOUT AND THIS WAS MANY HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER JESUS LEFT THIS WORLD. what wer d apostles using to teach before then? er, mumu I'M TALKING TO YOU! ANS ME! they wer using bible abi? mumu nayim u be! 2Thesselonians 2:15 says: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold unto the TRADITIONS which u hv bn taught. Whether by word, or our epistle. Did u read that? TRADITIONS! TRADITIONS!! MUMU, I SAID TRAAAAAAAADDDDDDIIIIIIIIIITTTTTIIIIIIIIOOOOOOONNNNNNSSSSS! We are hoding on TIGHT to the traditins of the church as it were even before d advent of d Bible and MUMUz lyk u canot shke ppl lyk us. we kw ur type. No one has said the Bible is not relevant in the church. my friend pray for the grace to stop being a MUMU. And before i forgt, change that name O! MUMU

4everGod: The Catholic Mary is NOTHING. It is a sin to recognize, pay tribute to, honor, sing about, worship or elevate Jesus' mother as being anything more than a vile, guilty, filthy, dirty, rotten, SINNER! Mary died an earthly death (Romans 6:23), and today is in Heaven, as a sinner saved by God's wondrous grace. Mary is not honored in Heaven above anyone else. Jesus plainly stated in Matthew 11:11 that the greatest human ever born amongst women was John the Baptist (not Mary). Jesus also said he that is LEAST in the kingdom of Heaven is greater than John the Baptist. So Mary is no better than anyone else, neither on earth nor in Heaven. Mary is not to be praised in any special way, for to do so is idolatry.

oh, mods we have a mumu who is running mad in the house oooooo, why ur body de pinch yu na? see as ur hand de run lyk tap, u de type rubbish. why are u answering 4evaGod? u, a guilty, stewpid, sily, smelling, filthy, idiotic, rotten, ignorant, fooolish, and good-for nothing MUMU, equating urself with God in a special way? that is mumurity! and u are an iiiiiiiiiiiidiiiiiiiiot!

4everGod: If you pray to Mary, or anyone in Heaven, not only will God ignore you entirely, but you are sinning against God. 1st Timothy 2:5, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” We are to pray in Jesus' name for everything we need and desire, because Jesus is the God-man. As men we pray to the man Christ Jesus; and as God Jesus speaks to God the Father on our behalf. The only way to God the Father is through His Son, Jesus Christ. God does not listen to those who come to Him through Mary, nor Peter, nor saint Anthony, nor any other saint. You MUST come through the precious name of Jesus (John 14:6). Mary is NOTHING! Peter is NOTHING!

Jesus is everything! Amen.

you are a MUMU! ur mumurity knws no bounds, walahi!!

4everGod: If you pray to Mary, or anyone in Heaven, not only will God ignore you entirely, but you are sinning against God. 1st Timothy 2:5, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” We are to pray in Jesus' name for everything we need and desire, because Jesus is the God-man. As men we pray to the man Christ Jesus; and as God Jesus speaks to God the Father on our behalf. The only way to God the Father is through His Son, Jesus Christ. God does not listen to those who come to Him through Mary, nor Peter, nor saint Anthony, nor any other saint. You MUST come through the precious name of Jesus (John 14:6). Mary is NOTHING! Peter is NOTHING!

Jesus is everything! Amen.

you are a MUMU! ur mumurity knws no bounds, walahi.

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MY FELLOW CATHOLICS, UNA GET TIME OOOOO. ISN'T IT CLEAR THAT THIS PROTESTANTS ARE JUST OUT FOR RIDICULE AND THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN LEARNING ALL WHAT WE'RE SAYING? MY OPINION IS THAT YOU SHOULD LEAVE THEM AONE! NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU BATHE A PIG-IT WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A PIG! NO MATTER ALL WE SAY HERE, DE WILL ALWAYS DECIDE TO CONTINUE BEING MUMUS. SO LETZ STICK TO OUR FAITH AND LEAVE THIS MUMUZ WHO KEEP SAYING WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW. THEIR MUMURITY IS BEYOND HUMAN HELP, BUT I BELIEVE GOD WILL INTERVENE IN THEIR LIVES. AMEN.

ochongonoko: My pastors are not dead, mary is..

MUMU! BIG ONE!

honeric01: And you claim to be a Christian?

Ever read the parable of the lost sheep before?

No, because you hardly read the bible on your own~

SMH

my dear d parable of d lost sheep actually talked about the LOST sheep. not the sheep that DECIDED to get lost. roger dt and leave peppyluv alone. try and undstnd smtn b4 u interprete nxt tym

peppy luv: (laughing at ur ignorance)b4 u open ur gutter I hope u knw d catholic church compiled d bible! Yes we use pamphlets cuz we are organised and a careful person like me can store it up and use it when it fits into d nxt liturgical calender and it serves as a guide just like daily manner cuz in it u hv d daily readings!and guides u tru d bible passage.in a year we read the bible completely unlike ur pastors that only read d passage of prosperity year in year out.there is no catholic family without an alter of d sacred hrt of Jesus and a bible,personaly I hv three and in my handbag u must find a bible and a Rosary!its a MUST I carry it.
It seems hunger was ur prblm and when u didn't see manna from heaven u left but u shud hv met St Vincent de paul society and they wud hv helpd u.
Anyway good riddance to rubbish *kickin ur ass*

hahahaha......peppyluv, .nor kill me wt laff here abeg. i tot i was d only oe who dsnt av tym for dis critics. previously i used to try and explain nicely until i realised de wer nt actually interested in learning but wer jst out to ridicule. so now-itz actually good riddance to bad rubbish! i purposely nw deal with them on purpose. no tym for xplanation

maxibrainz: do you know i attended catholic for 6 years and never saw any miracle, so take that home i am not speaking about what i was told but what i experienced.

so u attend church because of miracles? do u kw ur life is a miracle?

maxibrainz: what do you expect when the read only pamphlets which the bought at the church gate anytime the go to Church, how many of them read their Bibles, infact how many of them got Bibles

STOP being a mumu. d pamphlets as u call it are bible extracts from the old testament, the psalms and the new testament and gospel(and this bible u re talkin abt was compiled by d very church which u criticise). attendin d mass everyday makes u have full knowledge of d bible, does ur ministry hold service everyday? I hve a bible which I read and I kw many others do! so pls nxt tym make research and dnt do a public show of ignorance

mr arranger: WHO CARES !!!
NFSC DOES!!!!
(for those who doesnt know)
NFCS-Nigeria Federation of Catholic Students..
Am still living the faith and will keep living it till earthly death do us part.


A CATHOLIC AND PROUD ;DWHO CARES !!!
NFSC DOES!!!!
(for those who doesnt know)
NFCS-Nigeria Federation of Catholic Students..
Am still living the faith and will keep living it till earthly death do us part.


A CATHOLIC AND PROUD

WHEN THE ROLL IS CALLED ON THE LAST DAY, A JOYFUL SONG...HAIL NFCS!!!

rezzy: 20% faithful rev fathers. Thats the honest truth.

Please I need detailed statistical account to be posted here by you. datz all