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GSteve001:
Were you given a new jamb reg? i collected mine yesterday, paid 6k

YoursGEJ:
1,500 per night and 2,000 for home service. See as them dey set price like say na data plan

Empiree:
we may have derailed this thread a little but here is some articles with evidences.

They aren't that long though.
http://www.fountainmagazine.com/Issue/detail/What-does-Islam-say-about-killing-an-innocent-person


http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=88352


I guess what I'm trying to say is simply the degrees of gruesome crimes they committed.

May Allah forgive my shortcomings.

Empiree:
You see, the point raised here is that the one who professes shahada (including everything that comes with it) but is a killer, he goes to hell for period of time. The period of time is the time served for killing people. He doesnt get free pass to paradise. That's the point. He paid the price for cruelty.

That's why our parents say "Iwa lesin, esin ni iwa". Someone who professes shahada does not dwell in hell for {FOREVER} even if he committed gruesome acts. We can not use these terrorists as a case study. Amongst them are muslims and non-muslim machineries. But it's easy to chant islamic anthem while committing crimes. Forever is key word here.

I'm sure your are aware of tv drama like CSI LOS ANGELES. You see how LL COOL J reads arabic fluently and many other non-muslims like that. So only Allah can tell if these terrorists are muslims or not. Their appearances don't fool me.

Point raise here is not whether killers are going to hell or not. There is no debate on that. They are going to hell. But we talking about people who profess shahada but are evil criminals. Qur'an doesn't say they will remain in hell FOREVER. That's the point I'm trying to raise.

Empiree:
I'm not gonna address other parts of your post except this. It does not embolden anyone. Please put everything in its proper context.

The first comandment in ALL 3 famous religions is GOD IS ONE. Both bible and quran threaten violators with eternal hell. All other sins, Quran says Allah may forgive. Like adultery, fornication, killings, backbiting, usury etc. These are un-islamic as well.

Can you say as well that bcus Allah may forgive usurpers, fornicators etc it emboldens them?. A person who affirms Oneness of God but go on killing spree is going to Hell if he doesn't repent before he dies. Having faith is no excuse.

As for those who truly have faith GOD IS ONE till they breath their last but did not seek forgiveness for killing people, I swear by God they ain't getting "72 virgins". They are going to Hell for as long as God wills. I repeat, so long as they die with GOD IS ONE without ascribing son, Angels etc as co-equal like you do, they will eventually get out of Hell. Hadith also talks about sign of people who were previously in hell before granted Paradise.

But do you think their Hell is short term? . No my friend. We talking about millions of yrs in hell. Even hypocrite muslims will not be in hell forever. By hypocrite, I don't mean a 'muslim' in public but christian, herbalist etc in secret. No. That's still non muslim.

I'm sorry I'm unable to give reference now cus I'm mobile. Let me drop this though. There is hadith about a man who killed 99 people. A righteous man approached him and said " you are going to hell for killing people".

The killer said in that case I will kill you too to make it 100. He killed the man and asked for God's forgiveness. The hadith report that Allah forgave his sins. The man talking about here is someone with faith i:e GOD IS ONE.

There is also a case of a prostitute Allah forgave her for rescuing and feeding cat. So Faith I'm talking about is GOD IS ONE. Yes, faith is also trinity, herbalists etc

VinBukky:
Went to my sch to complete my Regularization Fee Today cos we were initially told to pay 5k before a MEMO was pasted in the sch to that we were to pay an extra 1k, making it 6k. So after paying in the bank,i went to the ADMIN with my friend to submit the photocopy of our tellers, after filling a manifest at the office, we asked the Admin officer how and when to check back and her reply was "Check back ur reg number on jamb website by Monday and if Its still did not show, check back after 3 to 5 days" .............

Scholar8200:
Concerning the amplified text, can this not embolden terrorists? Because, even of you claim their murders etc are un-islamic, as long as they have the islamic version of faith, they will only be in hell for a season afterwards they will be free? Clarify.

andymofia:
this government is evil

Knownpal:
Kwara Poly.

parisbookaddict:
After this your long uninteresting post, please show me where a christian has killed another because of disagreements about Unitarianism or the trinity on the nature of God.

You Muslims have killed each other for 1400 years, u Sunnis murdered over 300 shites in nigeria this year alone. how many has your ISIS brothers killed this year...for what?? relatives of a fraud and pedophile , ali or abu bakr.. evil men that died centuries ago..

how many sects do you have in islam again, please remind me... you are quite the hypocrite.

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dolphinheart:
good you got my points. since you are not in the mood for an answer, i think it would have been good if you had not asked the question?

dolphinheart:
since its just a thought, can you now modify that post to reflect your thoughts instead of making it seem like facts?



the denominations and monikers you mentioned and i might share some beliefs, and I do know that some beliefs of these same denominations are not supported by me. I do not know much about the monikers you mentioned, and I'm not ready to use your views about there beliefs as a decider cus it might just be your views about their beliefs and not really their beliefs( your thoughts about me is a good example)



Question: aren't you all christians?
answer: I dnt know. A Christian is a follower of jesus, one who tries to live his life the way Jesus did. I dnt know how they live their lives , so I dnt know if they are christians or not. one, even I , can claim to follow Christ when actually we are not.

This can be understood better if we look into to the Muslim world, ISIS , and some other groups claim to be Muslims while stating that some others are not , those others claim to be Muslims and that ISIS members are not. how does one know who really is a Muslim or a Christian?

Question: aren't you all reading the the same bible?
answer: the bible is a collection of books written over thousands of years by different writers. During these times, some have added books claiming to be part of the bible, claiming it's inspired, but their falsehood can be easily discovered. some have removed some inspired and not inspired scriptures from their own collection of books. so to answer you, sometimes, people who claim to be christians might not be reading the same collection of books.

These can be better understood when we look at the issues with the hadiths, some are claimed to be authentic, while some are claimed to be otherwise.

another important issue the bible has or had is the issue of translation, I belief the Koran had these too. only that for the bible , it's more complex since its older and cover a longer period of time.

Question: is it true that the bible is a book of confusion?
answer: the bible, the collection of inspired scriptures , is not a book of confusion.
confusion comes in when people deliberately want it to mean what is on their minds, and the devil gives them full surpport in these. over the years , some have been able to alter some words in the scriptures, but through time, such alterations has been discovered and corrected.

The Koran is a good example to explain these, Shia and sunni Muslims have the same Koran, I'm not such, but I'm led to believe that their understanding of it is different, I'm being told that there are several school of thoughts in each denominations too.

unlike the Koran, the bible went through a lot before we can have it today.
1. The issue of language and translations
2. The issue of destruction of the original copies. since some of this scriptures where written thousands of years ago , those originals could not have lasted that long. hence copies of it is prone to attacks by those who wanted to currupt the scriptures, but as christians, we believe that God preserved those original words till today, it's part of our faith.
there is also the issue of man made actions affecting the scriptures, for example, we are well aware of how many times Jerusalem was attacked and destroyed by those who where neither christians nor Jews. We know how those attacks would have affected the safety of the scriptures.
there is also the issue of those who Jesus described as weeds, but all in all, the word of God survived them all!
therfore, the confusion comes from the understanding, and not from the bible itself, just like you claim about isis and their understanding of the Koran.


ok.

richkid1:
37. It was Friday on Jan 1, 2010. What was the day of the week Jan 1, 2011? A) Sunday B) Wednesday C) Thursday D) Saturday

dolphinheart:
sir, why did you call me a unitarIan Christian and how did you come to the conclusion that I dnt have the same belief as jman05

ill like to ask, are you rilwon?

chitunelee:
I know my grade but my statement of result is not ready... Should I use awaiting result

LasoulMacuby:
Typo error. I mean the there is a screen grabed picture attached

LasoulMacuby:
Morning house. Pls can someone give me and idea of yet he round with a struke through line within at the right hand of the screen, I have not been able to receive calls since its been there and I don't really know how it got there. It a Camon C8 phone.

vower:
guy talk o,am about to switch back to lollipop o,this marshmallow lags a lot

chitunelee:
Pls someone should answer me can i proceed with my DE registration without statement of result??

analice107:
Is it that you deny these things or they don't happen where you come from?
when i was a kid, there were these Jaz men who come to entertain us with magic, afterwards sell their wares. A man will use this knife Mae Suya uses to slice through their stomach, stick it into their eyes, nothing happens. A man will lie down and a plank will be place on him, a car will drive through him, nothing will happen to him, i have seen a man who lifted a car with his teeth off the ground. he stood erect with the car by his teeth.
An Hausa man came to my village, he never went into the River, How he did it, no one knows till this day, but he tied a robe to a stick by the bank of the river and spiritually tied an Hippopotamus and pulled it to the river bank and it was killed. He never stepped inside the water.
I have seen where a man took an empty giant Milo Can , opened it for us to see it was empty, closed it, shook it and open it again, steaming hot Jellof rice filled the Can, he scoped it out and people ate it to prove it was indeed rice.
Its either you are lying or you are living in denial.

of all the lies in this post, I am flabbergasted by the bolded well you were a kid (little goat) back then and you had no brain. One would expect you to have grown some brains by now, unfortunately you've remained stagnant ever since.

Malvisguy is a learner lol.

kevoh:
Johndon22, your portion for hell fire go huge pass one of those abandoned mansions in Gwarimpa or Lekki . Any small thing why did you become atheist na johny Why did you do this or that in reference to atheism na Johny.

BUHARIWILLWIN:
This strike must hold o. People are really suffering an buhari doesn't care. When shitt hits d fan now.. Buhari has failed us. I wash my hands off buhari. Nigeria first. To hell with any leader who doesn't care. This strike must hold. And d magnitude must shake buhari. He has lost touch of reality. Senile old fool. I dey vex in fact.

analice107:
You know? The Muslim who asked that question is dumb, he asked that question to deride Yahweh, but he didn't realize how much that shoots his foot.