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u advertised website training and still went ahead to spam ur thread with unnecessary comments .

anyway that is not what attracted me. i looked at ur advert banner and the rainbow design nearly blinded me.

op u got a lot to work on though i like the name of ur academy

why did this post not make it to the right quarters since 2012. this is very informative and educative to the various political-socio-economic camps nuking themselves here on this very land.

shouting on the top of my very loud voice lala

Truckpusher:

bros for this kind time?

una no dey sleep. abeg make una sori, i just forget wetin i type.

moreover u can join sleeknick at night crawlers season 65

philips70:
For your information, this freedom has limitations. It takes a flip of the finger to locate and track you and I bet you it will not be easy for you at all. A word is enough for the wise, a stubborn fly goes with the corpse to the grave. Continue, one of you will be taught a very bitter lesson soon enough.

i challenge u to start the tracking with a snap of finger and lets see how good u are .

directonpc:
At the end of the day u will be doing a lot of work and that proves how responsive design alone can't get the job done

which lot of work will u be doing?

i can now understand ur problem. RWD is not only about css media queries, it encompasses all the techniques required to make a site respond to different device platform and screens which includes but not limited to server-side device detection, adaptive design, lazy loading then css media queries.

in general it involves both backend and frontend techniques.

so because of the word design u think it is only a css technique. sori a lot of javascript and server techniques are employed to have a full responsive site.

directonpc:
You guys are too confident about my ignorance and how I am a newbie to web development can you defend responsive design without insulting me because you don't even know me.

About lazy loading and those fancy javascript/ajax brother the real device that we call mobile do not support these technologies... For example opera mini and low end smartphones and featured phones won't handle all the about well. Maybe you are the ignorant one for thinking all visitors of your site use high end android or ios devices.... Maybe sha I am not definite that you are ignorant but u are 100% percent sure that am ignorant... Someone even quoted me and called me a fool.

This post is my attempt to educate people on how responsive design won't deliver best results for all users.

i did not call u a newbie, i indicated that for upcoming guys who may be reading the post.

i think to solve ur problem client probing scripts like modernizr are used to detect the capabilities of the environment and provide features/content based on that information, then there is a fallback to basic site in case the probing fail.

Nmeri17:
this una thread sef. some have defiantly chosen to remain ignorant despite being faced with the stark reality that they know absolutely nothing and are even asking no one to counter them. as per say na u follow write the specifications at w3.org abi?? *hisses like a serpent and unfollows thread **

*comes back to make sure thread was successfully unfollowed**
PS: those guys trying to convince them to go responsive, una too get time!

Don't worry, just leave him to ignoramus. he does not want to learn and upgrade his skills.

like somebody said there is no fast rule in web design. u pick what works for the project u are handling.

RWD does not only employ css media queries alone because of images. adaptive design and lazy loading complements it. infact recently i noticed that my facebook page loads content as i scroll down, that is lazy loading (loading content on demand either via page reload or frequently Ajax).

i said before that i can rebuff all the points he posted but didn't have time for that. that's why i recommended some topics for him to research on.

anyway LordAdam said it all. if he likes he should learn and keep on improving, if he does not like let him remain where he is and console himself that google and facebook do not employ RWD. what he fails to realize is that google, facebook and youtube are more of webapps than website (if i may use that term becos a lot of upcoming designer/developer don't know the difference btw the two) hence the employ the mobile app/site approach.

directonpc:
A responsive site isn't mobile friendly since it can't cater for low end mobile devices... Google launched Google plus in the Era of modern smartphones but believe me even Nokia 3110 will access G+ wella

it seems u are not abreast of current techniques and development in the web world.

i advised u previously to googled up adaptive design and lazy loading.

ok add this to ur lesson; graceful degradation and progressive enhancement. mind u this are techniques that have existed for ages.


incase u forgot where u were and where u are heading to: RWD is an attempt to cover as much computing devices as possible with varying screen size including those low end mobile devices even nokia 3310 and just introduce digital smart wristwatch. as long as that device can run a web browser.

it seems ur point is hanging on poor network connectivity, which is the inability of those device to download heavy web content that are meant for high end devices. i can assured u that network speed of today is far ahead of what was obtained in 2010.

come on o ye crawlers for the time have ol pas

sleeknick where art thouest

in ma opinion, it is the post above me that is making sense. employing RWD mostly depends on the target users. if a large portion of ur users are going to come from low-end mobile based on the service or product u have on offer, then a mobile site should cater for those.

i can nullify all the point raised by the op but i got no time to engage in useless fights .

instead i will advise the op to research on ADAPTIVE DESIGN and LAZY LOADING

Before i leave the scene, mobile site was in existence before RWD went viral. Google, Yahoo and Facebook built their mobile site before the era of RWD to cater for users who were on the go to access their account for updates. moreover, it was an era of low end mobile devices, not smartphones that are prevalent today which have capabilities of desktop/laptop.

Finally, there are a lot of things that u cannot as a user perform on mobile version of site, that u would be advised to use the full desktop version (even by the site owners).

sleeknick:
Do u find it difficult to sleep at night or rather u sleep late? This thread is for us....lets have fun here and talk about whats keeping us awake at this time....
As for me nothing really....i just have this nocturnal behaviour. I enjoy working on designs at night. This is the time i connect with myself and my level of rationale is lifted.

Lets share!

Lalasticlala...pls uplift dis topic

are u still enjoying ur nocturnal behaviour of paroling nairaland @ night?

anyway coding keeps me up at night not designs. i don't have a flair for designs

bros i get one design job i for like make u help me do. do u have any samples to show or................ just draft me any concept for a pressure group plus forum, let me see if we can work together.

sori i thought u work on computer graphics design . enjoy ur architecting

this thread never die?

person wey even open this thread neva know sey na so e go be. he may have even forget about it.

But the way i see this thread, it is an eternal one . it may reach 200 pages or oga seun may have to shut it down becos as long as we have night, there will always be crawlers.

anyway wishing this thread long life n eternal award from nairaland as well as it op

dhtml18:
^^^I can cope with arrays of any dimensions in any programming language for that matter - even 1000 levels sef. I may have to take a week off work to parse all the levels, i dont mind really.
But the one i am very mindful of is - recursive programming!!! It makes my head to spin like tire and when i finish. . . . . .i feel quite giddy as if a thousand bees are buzzing in my head. . . . .and sometimes it may cause NIGHTMARES!

theoritically. any recursive function or situation can be done with iterative methods if restructured properly. just that recursion makes ur code more ELEGANT though not intuitive (even when heavily commented as refactoring may be a nightmare for another person or even u after some time).

i have never use recursion since i have not encounter a suitable use - case where iterative method is not suitable to deal with it. just ma opinion anyway

Onyiibazz:
Please sir o! Hope you wouldn't mind explaining those terms above please! Am really new to programming!

sori for the big big jargons, i can't just help .

there are patterns in which codes are written for ease of maintenance and extending purposes. the popular one is mvc (aka model-view-controller) though there are lot of them. u don't need worry about that, for a start;

1. separate all the code that are connecting to the database into one file.
2. put all ur data manipulation code (all the create, retrieve, update n delete operations) into another file.
3. let ur html n supporting php to print variables stay in yet another file.
4. add html id and class attributes to html tags u are printing in ur previous file (step 3) to ease styling via external stylesheet.
5. remove all css styling to an external file.
6. add comment to each line of ur code to give urself and others a hint of what the code is supposed to do.
7. then post back the code in different chunks so that people can read the post and give help.


what u posted is nearly unreadable . some people like dhtml wont have the time nor patience to go through that, n offer u help.

Velocitron:
I completely agree with what you said about maintenance. Even in software design, continuous maintenance and updating is one of the most important things.

For my last coursework project, I used java script event-handling and PHP headers to make it seem like the page was loaded automatically (for example, if the user clicked a button to remove something from their shopping cart, the page would quickly refresh to show the change) because I didn't know about Ajax at the time, but I've been reading about it and I can't wait to start using it! Thankfully, I can host my projects on my university server.


I can't help but admire your zeal to learn, especially since you mentioned it was just an extra-curricular thing.

ma dear the power and allure of AJAX seduced me into learning JAVASCRIPT in 2011 after evading it for years..........and i have not regretted it. as i keep learning javascript, i start wondering what kept me away from such a sweet/sour, confusing, mystifying, elusive yet powerful language. i so love javascript and the beauty it brings to the web though still intrigue with the way browsers operate.

lekinz:
.. So one needs going through all this in becoming a guru

Buh what if one uses Wordpress in designing a website, it saves time and efforts.

Buying of theme and editing lobatan ... Abi

there is a chinese proverbs that says and i quote "there are different roads to the top of the mountain". i don't know if i got that correctly but getting to the top takes different route.

Ur vision and goals should drive what u do and how u do it. i took that route because i was preparing to program microcontrollers as i have a fair knowledge of C. it was purely to give me a solid programming foundation on which i can build a career in embedded systems/microelectronics which requires a great deal of programming skill. i also have fair knowledge of database design and under the hood development.

if installing wordpress and other cms works for u, take that route . i am currently using cms for my developments(because of the kind of clients that are patronising me currently) as it affords my client with litttle computer knowledge to update and manage their site while i may provide support when needed but i prefer building ma themes and plugins/module where necessary (depending on the level of customization needed).

u don't need to pass through the route i pass through but it will help if u know what is going on behind the scene to stay in the market. afterall na condition make crayfish bend

i have tackled some terrible algorithms especially when consuming web services but i think one that nearly buckled me was traversing DRUPAL'S monstrous multidimensional arrays to capture n process some data during drupal development (while building drupal theme, i refused to meddle into module development for now). finding, tracking and hooking data n processes(functions/methods) into drupal ecosystem is my new found love.

dhtml18:
The codes are too scattered for me to read - once the lines of code is exceeding 10. . . .i find it very hard to solve

rather advised him to segment or separate the codes into data acquisition (model), data manipulation and the output (views) - separation of concerns . i think it will be easier to pinpoint his problem than mixing it(php n html) up .

michaelwilli:
very impossible for dis guys to make a browser, weda lite or heavy, wateva platform it was built on, a browser is not beans abeg. dey cant do it. no b beans. dats an insult to my profession

..........and to even think they used special code not algorithm, no library/framework mentioned. how light is it or is it not using the same http (network)protocol stack and other low level system resources provided by the OS. which browser engine does it use or does it conform to the current w3c spec of HTML5 or CSS3. which of the web technology does it support like css parser, xml parser, javascript engine. does it provide the necessary api's needed by web applications to function optimally.

i my opinion when something is too good to be true.........(u can complete the rest for me - if u know oooooooo )

the kind thing wey dey happen for this thread. hmm GOD DEY LOOK UNA IN 7D

Una turn dis thread to dating thread where every nigga dey come practice their punch line

i no blame una afterall the thread sef no get purpose and direction but e long reach 32 pages. am sure e go soon reach 35 if not 40.






To all my peeps wey don turn nairaland to romanceland, i hail una.

cc lalasticlala pls collect gate fee for seun - this gbedu dey fire ahead ahead



OMO na today i come see all the long (21) list of[b] RULES(constitution)[/b] of this land. i no fit shout for no. 21 abi na only me waka come

oooooooh men, all this level of knowledge for a job! how much is the remuneration and what are the working conditions/hours.

Simply put HTML5, CSS3 and Ecmascript 5 (with DOM, BOM, Event Handling and all other javascript subtleties) proficiencies with experience.

oapeleo:
Thanks guys

LESSON TWO: FINDING THE RIGHT HOST
When it comes to small projects i use whogohost or syskay.com. Hostgator and Godaddy for big projects.

Its advisable to create a separate account for your clients. So if they wish to discontinue your services, you can hand over to them their login details to cpanel and others. If the webhost supports an affiliate program, use it on their account. And get discount for other jobs.

Whogohost and syskay.com are both nigeria webhost providers and are both good. But syskay now has a problem with sending mails.
All mails sent from the website you hosting with them goes to spam box. I dont know why?
This cost me my reputation at a time. An ecommerce site i created had all its payment, cart, check out messages going to the mail spam. This would ruin the reputation of your site. So lets put it aside for now. (Tested one 3 others websites same problem)

I havent had any problem with whogohost yet. And they have 24 hours customer care service, cheaper, good speed, affiliate program and help you with webpay integration.

IF YOU KNOW ANY OTHER GOOD NIGERIA WEB HOST BLA BLA LET US KNOW

If you doing a big project go for foreign hosts like hostgator or godaddy. They are more expensive (dollar ish u know) but reliable. They can handle websites with lost of traffic.

Now a lil secret, to get cheaper charge on hostgator use this coupon SOCIAL.

Next lesson FINDING THE RIGHT CMS
please comment to encourage more post.

There is no right host or cms . choosing a WEB HOST and CMS depends entirely on the job at hand. so jobs may be complex that u need to use language frameworks to deliver it. proper planning, research, features specification and information/system architecture will guide u in choosing ur implementation TOOLS and production environment .

that is web technology evolving . personal data theft is very rampant this days online with third-party cookies, link exchange and pingbacks between websites rampaging online in search of traffic. u need to be careful where u comment on issues online especially with ur facebook, google and other online accounts. BE CAREFUL WHERE U SUBMIT UR PERSONAL INFO AND STOP USING UR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS TO REGISTER OR COMMENT ONLINE ESPECIALLY WITH UNKNOWN SITES.


FINAL ADVICE: LIMIT YOUR ONLINE ACTIVITIES, IF POSSIBLE USE INCOGNITO MODE PROVIDED BY FIREFOX and other browsers (some call it privacy mode).

sori for all the ranting. securing ur digital footprints while surfing the web needs a full lecture plus handouts with assignments and course work. in short a two-volume book.

OPEYEMIAD:
I am currently working on my project Studeñt information management system. Have created other entries and they all submited to my database successfully using Dreamweaver, phpmyadmin and aphache.

Now remain to submit passport, my data type is blob on mysql but I can't submit as blob from dreamweaver. I can only submit as text.

please help me out gurus in d house

as at CS5, dreamweaver cannot handle blob (binary large object) data type processing and file uploading. YOU have to write the code manually to access the uploaded file in php and process it as u want. u can store it in the database or in the filesystem, let the arguments for the experts as they are pros and cons. so get ur hands dirty with and best of luck.

Be good at what u do and show off u little works AND you wont look for jobs. moreover take small jobs with tiny pay or no pay at all to improve ur skills and build urself a profile.

una no go kill person with laff for this kwuntry

pls learn more, they are better than that. moreover most of what u are saying is fallacy (if u know what is fallacy)

MurphyInc:
Jonathan Second term Ambition And A Schoolgirl’s Diary.

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A GRADUATE TO KNOW THAT; *Am not going to vote for someone who once had no shoes and school bags as a student but now has lots of shoes and bags but made students go on strike for about Eight ( months.
*NEVER, am not going to vote for someone who could not rescue about 230 school girls but still has plan to rule a country of about 200million people. *NEVER, am not going to vote for a grown up man who took advice from a 17year old girl (pakistan little girl Malala Yusufzai) before he could make his own decision.
*NEVER, Am not going to vote for a black commander of Army who brought white marine soldiers to do his job for him and still nothing was done.
*NEVER, Am not going to vote for a government who could not provide job for my elder sister who has a Master's Degree.
*NEVER, am not going to vote for a man that Boko Haram are killing his own people everyday and has no plan on how to stop the killing but continue blaming people for his non-performance and he can’t wait a minute when military took over power in Burkina Faso, he went there to stop the killing over there in Burkina Faso but could not stop the killing in his country.
*Finally am not going to vote for ANYBODY who needs One Billion American Dollars to solve an Insurgency (Boko Haram) while the ordinary man on the street do not even get (#100) hundred naira to eat. You can scold me for speaking the truth, don't forget the truth is bitter but it is better and it MUST be told so that we'd be free (John 8:32). All we need is CHANGE and nothing else…. Please we all need to get our (PVC) Permanent Voters Card to vote this Clueless, Visionless and Wicked Government out of power. Another four years of Jonathan will be doom for us. Please dont sell your vote cause the money they will offer you cannot sustain you for another four years. We should all stand up and say Capital NO.
Please Share Widely.

Bro, wakeup from ur slumber. dont blame ur inabilities on the government. no government can provide 50% of its citizen's needs. even the US who tried to give foodstamps have not been very successful. EVERY government on earth has its merit n demerits. your job is to align urself and grab all the opportunity u can. don't wait for government to share money, it won't happen.

NgeneUkwenu:
Unservicable Trains on top 1806 Rail Tracks carrying the worst governor!Transformation indeed! Smh

is it your job to service them?

just went to mozilla developer network this morning to check out some documentation on image scaling. Lo and behold firefox developer edition was introduce on the screen (lately i have been writing my css (live css editing with the style editor) and javascript with firefox development tools and i can tell u it rocks), sharperly without wasting of time i download and run it.

Mennnnnnnnnnnn, this is the development environment i have been looking for, for ages. mozilla just kills this. With responsive and adaptive design techniques washing the web, mozilla could not do it better than to integrate tools for it.

NO MORE cross-browser and cross-platform testing except for good ol IE (though i just download it, i am salivating on the features it provides considering that i am working on a project that requires responsive design off course combine with adaptive techniques for my images).

just do what oskaaay said. if u did not develop the theme, don't tamper with it else when the theme is updated, your modification (hack) will be lost (overwritten).

just look for a responsive theme that degrades well on mobile view or smaller screen.

TECHNICALLY, perl died from application development because of PHP and PYTHON, they took over perl job and perform optimally better with less stress for programmers who find writing perl script cumbersome.

But in Linux administration and some core Network applications (though C may be preferred because of its speed and wide support) perl still has some grounds in combination with shell scripting.

When i started learning programming, i considered perl as an option but when i read a lot of reviews online, i decided to stick to C and PHP (inbtw as a web developer, php can do much of my job better and if i need some server side gymnastic shell and c can come to my rescue on linux environment not to mention that i can customise and extend php with the power of c if need be).

the ability of C# to compete with Java in large-scale app development relegated VB.NET to background. it was a pure marketing ploy by microsoft to remain relevant. i have a BOSS who will rather die with VB.NET than any other thing but the guy is so good that even your most optimized C# and Java cannot compete with his code quality and strength.