₦airaland Forum

plaindealer:
All because I did not believe your claims without facts?

Not really..
You're unbelievable because you actively support corruption! I mean, inspite of the mounting evidence of over-invoicing here, you are determined to juggle facts and play ignorance just to encourage looting..
All the "facts" you need are there in the article..., I don't know the facts you are still looking for...

plaindealer:
You are in no position to determining what's too much or what's normal or not unless you have facts and figures, the current cost of labor, materials, and everything that goes into road construction and while you are at it, show us the specification the government required.

Your emotions and feelings are not facts or reality.

Reconstruction meaning they are doing the exact same thing that was done before, meaning a new road from scratch. Getting rid of the old road/surface is time-consuming and comes with an extra cost even before new construction starts.

Stop reading and running away with headlines.

You are unbelievable..

plaindealer:
1. That was a flawed, bogus and inaccurate comparison, a comparison, that was an estimate made back in 2013, 8 long years ago

Stop paying attention to useless and worthless Nigeria news media, they sent you on a foolish errand with irresponsible, flawed and misleading numbers that credible news outlets won't use.

2. Comparisons mean today's cost, today's cost of labor, today's cost of materials, cost of imports, cost of transportation and so on, not an irrelevant estimate from 8 years ago.

3. The estimated cost for the same project you are talking about by another publication put the cost at N1,141,485,237.00 Trillion.

4. Estimate is just an estimate, not contractors producing their actual and total contractual cost, there's a difference between the estimate and real cost.

I know there's corruption in Nigeria, but that doesn't mean we must throw away our sense of thinking, logic, and basic ability to rationalize and process news just because we are always desperate to think and believe that Nigeria is corrupt.

So..??
2 Billion Naira for a kilometer of road is perfectly normal!?
This is not even the construction of a new road.. This is a contract for the RECONSTRUCTION of an already existing road!
What are you trying to do? Sell a dog poop as candy??

plaindealer:
Before spouting and screaming looting, the road is 385km long so please explain to us based on comparison with similar roads with similar length in Nigeria how much it const con construct a 375km road with all the trimmings that comes with it like ducts, bridges and so on,

While you are at it, give us the cost of labor, cost of materials, and everything that goes into road construction.

That road is almost 2 times longer than the distance from Owerri to Eboyin.

I don't know why you people don't apply common sense and logic before shouting and ranting..

You are an enabler of corruption in Nigeria! People like you are the reason this country is the laughing stock internationally today! Every answer to your sterile questions are right there for you to see, but for whatsoever reason, you have vehemently refused to see them. The way you are going, it seems you have a dog in this game...
Read through the article again..., This time with an open mind, maybe you will see enough reasons to condemn corruption and corrupt politicians..

SarkinYarki:
What do you expect when Fashola is minister of works , after all he was the first person to start cost roads at 1km for 1 billion naira when he was Governor of Lagos

Very true
Just remembered that..
But how can the federal executive council pass this kind of contract? With all the past governors and former ministers and commissioners there, how do you explain the construction of a kilometer of road with over 2 billion!?

If there is a mass exodus of Nigerians from such places as Italy, South Africa, Malaysia and Thailand back to Nigeria, we might be witnessing serious 007 displays in our neighborhoods everyday.. Most of these guys have joined local gangs and mafia groups and are now sooo entrenched sophisticated in the business of violent criminal activities that you wonder how Nigerias prehistoric security set up will hold up under crazy perpetual sophisticated criminal assault..

Take away his rabid tribalism and ethnocentrism, administratively as a state governor, this tiny brat is forward looking..
It's saddening that on the national level, irrespective of the promise shown in local politics, even the most erudite Fulani politicians are deeply steamed in parochial politics with all sorts of base sentiments..

CodeTemplar:
This part of the analysis is exaggerated. The naira has lost a lot of value between 2014 and now(2021) and that would make the figure better expressed in a more stable currency like dollar. at N170 to a USD in 2014, that N240 billion was about $1.5bn and therefore around $700bn plus in 2021 value.
I love the concept of project cost comparison to expose inflation of contract and corruption but not the way it is being done here.

Even at that , at 2.1 billion per kilometer, this is far above the 238 million per kilometer as stated by the world bank..
Let's not do violence to facts here; this very contract is outrageously alarming! This is not an APC vs PDP issue. This is indefensible!
This project is nothing but a monument to kleptomania..

Let's be frank to ourselves; this is no more corruption... This is nothing but a looting expedition... These people are determined to finish every money in government coffers.. This is frightening..

Abuja-Kaduna-Zaria-Kano Road: CSO flays N797bn cost of reconstruction

A Civil Society Organization (CSO) – the Anti-Corruption Network – has described the reconstruction of Abuja-Kaduna-Zaria-Kano Road project recently awarded at the cost of N797billion as the most expensive on earth.

The Executive Secretary of the ACN, Senator Dino Melaye, told reporters at a press briefing in Abuja, that the project needed further scrutiny to determine its actual cost.

Melaye described the cost of the contract as outrageous saying that the award of the 375-kilometer road at N797billion showed that a Kilometer of the road would gulp a whooping N2.1billion for reconstruction.

He said: “On the 3rd of March 2021, the Federal Executive Council approved the reconstruction of Abuja-Kaduna-Zaria-Kano Road at the cost of N797billion.

“The road is said to be 375 kilometers in total. This is probably the most expensive road construction on the earth at the average of US$6 million (N2.1 billion) per kilometer.

“The Anti-Corruption Network has observed with dismay that the cost of road construction in Nigeria has been consistently outrageous which now calls for serious scrutiny.

“According to a report put out by the apex bank of the world, World Bank, the cost of constructing 1 kilometer of road is ₦238 million.

“This figure is the benchmark that usually shouldn’t be surpassed regardless of several factors.

“Going down the memory lane, in 2013, the Federal Government awarded the contract for reconstruction of the 127km Lagos-Ibadan Expressway at N167 billion (US$1 billion at the time it was awarded).

“Interestingly, and also in 2013, a similar contract was awarded for the 1,028km Lagos-Abidjan road project and the Economic Community of West African Countries (ECOWAS) estimated this project to cost between N167 billion and N240 billion.

“At the projected maximum cost of N240 billion, the cost of the ECOWAS road per km will be N234 million whereas the six-lane Expressway road contract awarded by the Federal Government at N167 billion cost will be N1.3 billion per kilometer.

“In other words, the number of kilometers to be covered by the ECOWAS project is eight times higher than Nigeria’s Lagos-Ibadan Express road project; and the cost per kilometer is far lower than that of Nigeria.

“We should also note that the ECOWAS six-lane project is expected to connect five (5) major cities in the region namely Lagos, Nigeria; Cotonou, Benin Republic; Lome, Togo; Accra, Ghana and Abidjan, Cote D’Ivoire.

“Research also shows that in the Limpopo Province of South Africa, it will cost N33 million or US$194,000 to build one kilometer of paved road.
“In Liberia, the cost of building a kilometer of

road has been estimated at US$1 million (N381 million) or US$1.2 million (N457 million).

“But the story is obviously different in Nigeria, the most populous black nation on earth.

It has become almost a norm for a kilometer of road in Nigeria to cost more than ₦1 billion to construct.

“The question that begs for answer is why is Nigeria the costliest place to build roads in Africa?

“The answer may not be far-fetched as it is believed that the government intentionally allows these hikes in order to get kickbacks from the contractors, since they can’t run the projects themselves.

“This is obliviously corrupt activity that the Anti-Corruption Network was set up to fight against.

“We therefore use this medium to register our displeasure over the award of road construction contract by the Federal Executive Council on the 3rd of March 2021.
“Anti-Corruption Network state unequivocally that the said contract is outrageous, ridiculous and should be scrutinised.”



LINK :

https://thenationonlineng.net/abuja-kaduna-zaria-kano-road-cso-flays-n797bn-cost-of-reconstruction/

gidgiddy:
Nigeria is already taking it for free anyway

Best quote of the day!
They have been playing oil diplomacy for ions..
That was how Gowon got all the super powers and all Nigerias neighbors to close ranks against Biafra..
This time Kanu should also join Zamfara good too..
Biafra will dash Cameroon Niger and Chad including Britain and France as much gold as they want..
After all, since it has been there, we haven't been feeling anything..

We will dash the oil and gas ass we like..
Thunder faya devil!
You guys dashed your way to the top too during the war..

Rossikk:
YES. In fact Nigeria will arrange for flights and buses to convey all 30 million Igbos residing in other parts of Nigeria back to the east in mass deportations.

Just don't claim the delta as yours, and we'll be glad to see the back of you.

I have always known you as a fake patriot masquerading as a Pan Africanist..
You hide under the cloak of protecting the integrity of the boundaries of African states to dish out base hate and resentment to groups you consider a threat to your megalomaniac agenda.. Very crafty tribalist that starts off accusing others of tribalism.. Just look at the nonsense you vomited there. You have always wanted a big Nigeria but once you get your gorry hands on the oil producing communities, others can go to hell! Very primitive thinker camouflaging as a n emergency patriot..

They always carry this their useless staffs all over the place, constituting nuisance to the public..
These ones must be the only army officers in the world that see very funny looking walking sticks as some kind of symbol of honor?

adeoba2008:
Do you know how this works at all. It is hard to reloot such funds.

The way you are going.., You sound like you're part of the looting machine...

Are they still going to Benin with canoe? Are they still going to play at Onikan with all the bahama grass and run down dressing rooms that Rohr bitterly complained about?
Nigeria!

BKayy:
All their projects are not for the development of SE and SS. Second Niger Bridge is to facilitate the evacuation of people (Human resources from SE to Lagos)
This scam railway is simply for transportation of resources/cargoes to North because no reasonable person will board a train from ph to Awka only to reach the destination next day (reason for narrow Guage). They will start with passengers but will change overtime to their true intention in few years because nobody will board it.

In the end, a futuristic rail system must be built in alaigbo in my lifetime! Took the fast speed train from Beijing to Guangzhou months ago and I can't help but wonder why the "Spirit of Small thinking" has caged the typical Nigerian politician! You need to see glittering train stations.. glass, marble and steel! Wouldn't be surprised if they were built for less price compared to this prehistoric edifice about to be used to deface the east by Amaechi and his disastrous gang..

wellmax:
OBY EZEKWESILI does not deserve to be included in that list.

She's so hateful, full of bile and very very shameless

You just have problems dealing with strong women with strong views.. Deal with your insecurities and leave the Amazon alone..
@op,
How about Adichie?
How about the first female pilot?
How about the first woman to get you an olympic gold medal?
Huh?

BKayy:
Hope you know you can't lie on the Internet and go Scott free.
Narrow Guage rail line is not suitable for high speed trains compared to broader lines like standard gauge. Check here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow-gauge_railway

But there are cases that conservative countries like Italy and Australia order for manufacture of Narrow Guage line with improved speed (can never be like that of standard gauge) for their existing narrow Guage. These specific narrow Guage line cost too much like the Italian own you posted which costs 22.5 million Euros for 4 units. Check here

https://www.railtech.com/rolling-stock/2019/01/15/stadler-to-supply-more-narrow-gauge-trains-to-italy/?gdpr=accept
That is about 5.6 million euros per unit and you expect Nigeria to spend that on one customized train that will run in SE?
Oga we are getting what is even worse than what I posted.
The width determines the speed a rail line can take just like width of cars. The narrower it is the lesser it's balance because of Center of gravity levels

It's the same way they vehemently refused to elevate the second Niger bridge so that bigger ships can pass under the bridge after dredging for the proposed Onitsha river port. Infact, in a former plan during the Babangida administration, the bridge was supposed to have a rail line constructed with it. But this was yanked off. . You know what? This also means that no bigger ship will ever get to any proposed port in the North eg Lokoja or any other port up north linked to river Niger, since such route must pass Onitsha... Essentially, folks are ready to cut off their hateful noses just to spite their clannish faces..

lordm:
You are so full of bitterness

Because he told the truth? He should have kept quiet while you use the resources of the east to build modern infastructure for the west and the North, while constructing prehistoric rails for the east? Bitterness kee u dia...

GOFRONT:
Hotels are built mainly for promiscuity

The first "investments" that spring up around a new university or higher institution in Nigeria are hotels.. Just check..

To put it mildly; This is simply stunning!

Elgorny:
Look at this iddiot. Where are gallant heroes here? I can only see two hungry slave tryng to escape from their captors

These are gallant warriors fighting literally with their bare hands to save the motherland from the rampaging vandals fighting for the western powers..

Our gallant heroes.. Men who saw tomorrow..

To be relooted by Buhari goons as usual..

Is this still a democracy?

Is this governance?

Unconsciously, folks have bought into the narrative that Clifford Orji and Ókija shrine are the standards to be used in measuring the ugly menace of ritual killings in Nigeria! A very huge public relations disaster for the igbo... The Yoruba media glamorized Clifford Orji to no end, the same way they nearly destroyed the beutiful town called Ókija over one Ókija shrine. Halfbaked journalism fueled with inherent ethnic hatred were behind the Clifford Orji mega tales! An unending desperation to paint others dirty while hiding your obvious crimes!

Nothing that was done by that sick guy comes close to what happens at Soka Forest every day and yet you read little about that evil forest! The guy was even insane! Ókija shrine wasn't even a killing ground like Soka. It was more like a deity where aggrieved people go to do their stoopid oath taking! Nobody comes to your house to drag you to Ókija shrine.. Yet today the password for ritual killings and murders in Nigeria are Clifford Orji and Ókija shrine! Why downplay Soka Forest and the epidemic called "ritual killings" that go on all over Ogun State on daily basis? How many names of those behind the massacres at Soka Forest is known to any of you reading??

QueenSandy:
There is 85% possibility that this airport will not be completed.

So why grab people's land

That airport is the most useless white elephant project going in Nigeria at the moment but folks are so blinded with emotions to see facts! I mean what is the sense in wasting hundreds of billions of naira building an airport just ten miles from another completed one!? Peter Obi saw the stoopidity in this project and made some agreements with the Delta State government on the Asaba airport. But the man at Awka government house at the moment is so consumed in his megalomaniac habits that he has now abandoned all projects for the airport being built in his backyard! And some ostensibly intelligent people are cheering him on..

My worry is that in a few decades, this generation would have been totally lost without contributing much to the development of their fathers homeland..., The connection between Nigerians born in the diaspora since the 70s and the homeland continues to widen.. They have become so "Americanized" and acculturated to the western lifestyle that this very set of immigrants might struggle to locate igboland on the map of Africa... Most of them don't visit home untill they are aged because of the jumpy security situation in the country.. Essentially, unlike the Chinese or the koreans, we might gain nothing from the intellectual/cultural transfers that come with their homecoming..

Jolomenas:
Is it secular or circular? You dumb idiot.

Another herdsman on steroids.. Very irritating hyenas one has to share buharis Nigeria with..
Whether it's perpendicular or rectangular, you better do well to keep it neat and decent here.., before you start off what you can't finish..

Ebula Lokoja!

Emu4life:
Most intelligent people are not always the leaders, leave Tanko alone. Afterall, Trump was once the American President.

A shariah judge has nothing to do with the position of the head of the judicial branch of a secular state... I thought all along that this is too obvious to argue about..