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Juliusmalema:
For thos saying Igbo enwe Eze and there Rubbish propaganda.

This is a testament that Igbos have kings before the arrival of the white man


As for the caste system, I reserve my comment.

Few igbos not all. My town had no stuupid eze. The one there now was an offshoot of the warrant chief nonsense

Shoot anybody sent by fulani jihadist to come and loot your resources. They have been mining their gold for decades illegaly while sharing the resources. Next will be to get them off our oil and gas resources. Everybody should "possess his possession".

Propaganda

psucc:
Nigerian government will sanction all Americans, no matter how highly placed, that have hand in the US 2020 election debacle.

Put all of them in no fly list too

OZOnNengiTheory:
DJ Switch should be arrested and thoroughly investigated. I believe she is working with the opposition or the albino coward to destabilise this country.

The gullible ones will say families of killed Protesters are afraid to speak up. Laughable! E be like say Una never lose a loved one before..and I don't pray you experience it in ya lives. A woman that loses a child isnt scared of anything else in this world..and I can tell you with all I have that she would speak up in this circumstance!

The truth, DJ Switch and all those behind the just concluded drama called endSARS must be thoroughly investigated and those found culpable should be ruthlessly dealt with

I hope you are not planning to rape DJ Switch... The way you are fixated on her, I hope the poor gal can survive you

They organized their Awawa boys and one million boys to loot and destroy igbo businesses out of envy. Then they turned around to complain that IPOB wanted to destroy their Lagos State!! Children of hate and perdition! Our benevolent accommodators..

gidgiddy:
Nnamdi Kanu's agitation is about a referendum in the SS/SE area. Its got nothing to do with who is Igbo or who is Ikwerre. We conduct a referendum, those eho love Biafra will vote and leave, those who love Nigeria will vote and stay.

Simple..

helinues:
We dare you people to start another nonsense protest

It's coming and the only thing you can do about it is to whine on nairaland..

Sack him because of a single draw? Must you win every day?

The Egyptian Football Association (EFA) said on Friday that Salah, 28, returned a positive test but is not displaying any symptoms.

It later added that Salah underwent a second test, which confirmed he has Covid-19.

"Salah is keeping a high spirit and is not showing any symptoms of the virus," said the EFA in a statement.

It said the other members of the team had tested negative.

Egypt host Togo in Africa Cup of Nations qualifying on Saturday, followed by the reverse fixture in Togo on Tuesday.

Salah will now self-isolate and could miss Liverpool's next two matches.

The Reds host Leicester in the Premier League on Sunday, 22 November, followed by a Champions League tie against Atalanta at Anfield on Wednesday, 25 November.

Salah has started all eight of Liverpool's Premier League games this season, scoring eight goals.

LINK:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54935734

He is totally removed from reality.. I wouldn't be surprised if he is genuinely astounded as to why folks are protesting. Dude has been in the national Assembly since 1999 or thereabout.

LegendHero:
By the way, Ikwerres are not Igbos.

Q.E.D.!

If they say they are not then THEY ARE NOT!
And if the Oba of Lagos says that Lagos is NOT Yorubaland, then it means that Lagos is not part of yorubaland! You are "educated", so I presume you should be able to grasp simple points easily...

Deep thinker...

LegendHero:
Yes, just like we can agree that the Benin trace their kingship to Ife which is a Yoruba land and that means Yoruba also had influence on Benin which means Ife own Lagos.

Can we agree on this too?

Go and tell that to the Oba of Benin...
You guys are a rare breed of treacherous characters. . What makes you guys happy is exactly what makes others sad...
Since you have accepted that the original owners of Lagos are from Benin, you can now go to bed and sin no more..

Unklekelvin:
The oba was not drunk when he said Lagos is not Yoruba land, whatever he said afterwards is purely political. Binis have always reminded Yorubas how Eko now Lagos is Bini land and Oba of Lagos also made it known to everyone

Tell them ooo

LegendHero:
...

Wike never said ikwerres owned Rivers either..
He simply tried in the past to link his family tree to Benin just like the Oba! Can we agree on that?

LegendHero:
So what exactly is your motive for mentioning the Yorubas on this thread in the first place?

Since you know there are indigenous Igbos in Rivers, why are you so pained that Wike said Ikwerres are not Igbo and dragging the Yorubas into this?

Since Rivers is also your land, man up and fight Wike back instead of wasting your precious time on Nairaland.

Mentioned you guys because you guys have been all over the threads harassing everybody since Wike dropped what you guys presumed to be a "bombshell"..
We were all here when the oba made that statement years back and nobody likes bringing it up as much as you guys do with similar statements from Eastern minority leaders. Why the fixation? That's why

LegendHero:
Modern-day Lagos was founded by the Awori in the thirteenth century. It was later called Eko. The Portuguese explorer Ruy de Sequeira who visited the area in 1472, named the area around the city Lago de Curamo; the present name is Portuguese for "lakes". An alternate explanation is that Lagos was named for Lagos, Portugal - a maritime town which at the time was the main center of the Portuguese expeditions down the African coast and whose own name is derived from the Celtic word Lacobriga.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos#Colonial-era

Hello!?
Do you know what you are doing with this particular post? Do you understand the implications?

Wikipedia OVER the views of the CUSTODIAN OF LAGOS HISTORY AND TRADITIONAL INSTITUTIONS!?!?
Hello?

Are you sure you are a true omualabi

LegendHero:
The difference here is that the Benin are not claiming they own Lagos daily which made your premises faulty.

The Benin people respect the right of the Yorubas in Lagos and you won’t see them opening threads upon threads saying they own or have a stake in Lagos.

Igbo on the other hand are trying so hard to say they own Rivers simply because Ikwerre traced their ancestry to Igboland.

So if you’re gonna use Benin analogy, you should emulate their behavior of minding their business.

Ikwerres are NOT the only people in Rivers, my dear educated friend! The folks at Obigbo being slaughtered daily to your unending excitement are indigenous to Rivers State! Obigbo/Oyigbo (choose the one that gives you orgasm) is in Rivers State! And they're the ones being killed as igbos! So how am I claiming what is mine? Or are you saying that none igbos are the ones who chased away the people of Obigbo to start ipob activities there?

LegendHero:
Trust me I’m not insulting you.

I simply called you an illiterate based on the fact that you can’t differentiate Influence from Ownership.

For example, USA had influence on a lot of countries but does that mean USA owned those countries?

No tribe is an island, people have one time or another had influence on each other whether in the North, East, West, or South.

Educated man Sir!
You are the one acting like a deer in head light here. The Oba said this and I qoute again:

"Modern day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast."

Is that quote too sophisticated for your highly educated mind to decipher?

LegendHero:
This thread is of no importance to me in the first place. The reason why I replied initially was because of the misinformation you used about Oba of Lagos claiming Benin owned Lagos.

I showed you the link in PremiumTimes where he said that was fake news. He only mentioned the fact that the influence of Benin cannot be taken away from Lagos, but he reiterated that he never said Benin own Lagos.

Understand the difference between ownership and influence.

Ife had a lot of influence on Benin, can we claim Yoruba own Benin because of that?

The below is Azikwe statement about Onitsha and Benin. Can we now claim Benin owned Onitsha?

Posted from Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe's Autobiography "My Odyssey" listed on Amazon UK for £7,009.00 or $11,461.00.


Excerpt:
“One day I asked her (grandmother) the meaning of the word ‘Onitsha’. She explained that it had historical significance. The terminology meant one who despised another. It is a contraction of two words, Onini to despise, and Ncha meaning others. So that the two words when joined together mean one who despises others. Then I asked her why we despised others. She patted me on the back and told me that it was due to our aristocratic background and tradition. I insisted that she should explain to me the basis of this supercilious social attitude. She told me that we despised others because we descended from the Royal House of Benin and so regarded ourselves as the superiors of other tribes who had no royal blood in their veins, “
“I continued to belabor my grandmother to tell me more of the history and origins of the Onitsha people. She narrated that many many years ago, there lived at Idu (Benin) a great Oba who had many children. Due to a power struggle regarding the right of precedence among princes of the blood and other altercations, there was a civil war in Benin. One day, the supporters of one of the princes insulted and assaulted Queen Asije, the mother of of the Oba of Benin, who was accused of having trespassed on their farmland. Enraged at this evidence of indiscipline and lawlessness, the Oba ordered his war chief and brother, Gbunwala Asije to apprehend and punish the insurgents.

In the attempt to penalise them, Chima, the ultimate founder of the Onitsha city-state, a prince of the blood in his own right, led the recalcitrants against his Uncle, Gbunwala. This intensified the civil war which rent the kingdom of Benin in two and led to the founding of Onitsha Ado N’Idu, , ” “As the great trek from Benin progressed, some did not have the stout heart of the pioneer-warrior, and decided to settle at different places, known today as Onitsha -Ugbo, Onitsha-Olona, Onitsha-Mili, Obior, Issele Ukwu, Ossomari, Aboh, etc,
” SOURCE – Nnamdi Azikiwe: My Odyssey, Chapter I (Spectrum Books, 1970) “My
Genealogy and Nativity” p 11 – 12

What are you blabbing about? Did I tell you Zik is not from Benin or from Tanganyika? He can come from wherever, that's his kettle of fish.. what I'm saying is that the Oba of Lagos traced his ancestry to Benin, just like Wike and as you pointed out, Zik! So why is Wikes view being used by your type to demonize igbos and make it look like they are trying to steal Portharcout by "attaching by force" as you guys prefer to put it?? Especially when another ikwerre man has given a contrary view? If igbos should not claim Rivers because of Wikes outburst? Can we extend that idea to Yorubas as it relates to Lagos because of the view of the Oba of Lagos

Kyase:
And who told you, I'm anti Igbo?

"“Modern day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast."

Oba of Lagos 2017

What is the difference between this and what Wike said and why can't we have some peace here Why should the obas view be overlooked while Wikes outburst should become the defining voice going forward?

Kyase:
Why am I mentioned here?

So you can come and take your "anti-igbo serium"!

oyatz:
This is NOT a Yoruba affairs.
Apart from few Yorubas that read about them on Nairaland, 99.8% of the Yoruba people don't even know anything called Ikwerre.


Grab a random Yoruba guy on the street of Ibadan, Ilesha, Shaki or Ile-Ife and ask him if Ikwerres are igbos.
His response will be; what is Ikwerre?

It's now not a Yoruba affair? Why have you guys been so excited about this?? Why starting all these threads? What is the Yoruba gain if the igbos fight with the minorities??

"The statement reads: “Coming from the palace, with what I was told by my late paternal grandmother who is a descendant of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi and also reading from factual Historical books, let me share this Knowledge with you all on Eko/Lagos."

Oba of Lagos 2017

LegendHero:
There is difference between influence and ownership.

Even tho you’re an illiterate, you should at least know the difference between influence and ownership.

Ife had influence on Benin, does that implies the Yorubas owned Benin?

Benin had influence on Onitsha and even Zik spoke about it, does that mean Benin Own Onitsha?

Igala had influence on Anambra, does that mean Igala owned Anambra?

Stop being ignorant of basic things. Maybe you should give your phone to someone more intelligent then so we can continue this conversation!

Stop insulting me. I don't want us to scatter the thread with insults! Oba of Lagos traced his origin to Benin! Wike traced his origin to Benin!! Amaechi traced his origin to igboland!!! Can we all agree on that and move on

LegendHero:
The date on yours is May 2017.

The below is where Oba Akiolu rebuked that statement as fake news in December 2017.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/252183-i-never-said-benin-owned-lagos-oba-akiolu.html

You game is up, Ikwerres are not Igbos!

Stop wailing daily over spilled milk and desist from peddling fake news about Lagos.

The Oba never retracted his statement that Lagos is not Yoruba! Read your link! He only said that he doesn't mean that Benin owns Lagos! Dude traced the ancestry of the progenitors of Lagos to Benin! Same way Wike traced his family tree to wherever! So what's the big deal? Why all the noise?

LegendHero:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/252183-i-never-said-benin-owned-lagos-oba-akiolu.html

The above will answer your question.

Wike said he is not Igbo and a lot of Ikwerres already established that fact time and time again. Stop wasting your time on Nairaland crying over spilled milk and count the Yorubas out of your predicament.

What re you trying to do? The Oba traced the ancestry of the owners if Lagos to beenin same way Wike did!! So why are you guys from yorubaland jumping out of your skins over Wikes outburst but quiet over that of the Oba of Lagos

Lagos not part of Yorubaland – Oba Akiolu[/font]


The Oba of Lagos, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has claimed that Lagos State is not part of Yoruba land.

Akiolu’s statement is coming barely a week after he publicly humiliated the Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Ogunwusi at an event.

In a statement from Akiolu’s palace, the monarch traced the historical background of the state and why it should not be regarded as part of Yoruba land.

The statement reads: “Coming from the palace, with what I was told by my late paternal grandmother who is a descendant of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi and also reading from factual Historical books, let me share this Knowledge with you all on Eko/Lagos.

[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]"Modern day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast.[/b]

“It was a major centre of the slave trade until 1851. Lagos was annexed by Britain via the Lagos treaty of cession in 1861, ending the consular period and starting the British Colonial Period. The remainder of modern day Nigeria was seized in 1886 when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria was established in 1914 Lagos was declared its capital due to the struggle of the Bini King.

"Lagos experienced growth prior to the British Colonial rule and even more rapid growth during the Colonial rule throughout the 1960s, 70s, continued through the 80s and 90s till date. Thanks to the Awori’s, Bini’s, Yoruba’s, migrants across the nation and world at large, as no particular group of people can take the glory alone.

“Lagos is made up of Lagoons and creeks. The Lagos lagoon, Lagos Harbour, five cowne creeks, Ebute-Metta creeks, Porto-Novo creeks, New canal, Badagry creeks, Kuramo waters and Light house creeks."

[b]LINK: https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/05/04/lagos-not-part-yorubaland-oba-akiolu/

I'm still waiting for Yorubas here to explain to all those reading why they support Wikes view about Rivers State but will Never support the view of the Oba of Lagos as it regards the ownership of Lagos! Wike said he's not igbo and all of you have been foaming in the mouth, although Amaechi his brother has a contrary view! The Oba of Lagos has been quoted to say he is not Yoruba and that Lagos is not Yoruba! My question is: why are these Yorubas still claiming Lagos and why are they not following their advice to the igbos as it regards the view on Lagos/Yorubas? Why all these threads to over labour Wikes outburst?

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Oyatz
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helineus
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Kyase
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Ozonnengitheory
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/05/04/lagos-not-part-yorubaland-oba-akiolu/

HAccord:
Nwa ewedu, gbe enu werey dake!

Kpuchie onu isi gi, Gi-esigbuo mmadu ebea. Obu IPOB gbara nna gi ara? Ozu!

IPOB IPOB IPOB, KANU KANU KANU ..... Yet it's the fulani herdsmen that will SURELY Kill and ransack communities this night! What kind of hatred is this!? How can you be so riled up by a group that is largely peaceful to the extent of tolorating the muderous escapades of a proven geenocidal group? Are these people well at all?

Nwadiuto247:
Now that Wike has publicly made it known that he is not Igbo and that Ikwerre is not Igbo, can you
ipob miscreants stop disgracing yourselves?

Can you please tell your useless Mazi to stop claiming Ikwerre people?

Do you people want to continue your shameless claim of Ikwerre?

I hope Ohaneze heard t too

Many thanks to Dele for that very important interview

The Oba of Lagos came out openly to say that he is not Yoruba and that Lagos in not Yoruba! Openly! Oba of Lagos!! The custodian of Lagos history and tradition!!! Why is it that you and your type glossed over that statement and never challenged him as you continued as if Lagos is Yorubaland? And you do this while persistently wanking off on whatever an incoherent Wike said?? How is it that you are so excited that Wike the governor of Rivers said he is not igbo, but not excited that Amaechi, who handed over to him openly claimed to be Igbo? Two of them coming from the same ikwerre? What actually drives you lot crazy about the so-called quarrel between the Igbo and her minority neighbors??