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Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:42pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
No need to call me names grin


What is the name of this common ancestor and where can we find them?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_forms#Non-human_primate_to_human I hope this helps.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:40pm On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
You keep posting childish arguments.

Hebrews 10 dealt with your childishness thousands of years ago.
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Every teacher expects his lesson to be taught and understood. You cannot understand anything in isolation. You need a reference. Every teacher needs a reference in order to push his point.

Hebrews 10 just told you that Judaism was a reference to the the reality in Christ.

I repeat, you have a really long way to go.
lwkmd, didn`t you already repeat this sentence before, okay why didn`t god make eve conceive jesus to save them from their sins, nothing was stopping him from doing that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:38pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
lol, I'm not here yo debate Christianity with you, if you go through my threads, you'll know that.

I'm here for the numerous inconsistencies of atheism grin
So how did humans get here and why are atheists running from this question?
Human (scientific name Homo sapiens sapiens) is the common name of the primate species also known as the East African Plains Ape, the dominant tool-using species on the third planet (counting outwards) of some backwater minor star. Our species has only been on earth in its modern form for about 200,000 years and we evolved from a common ancestor we shared with the chimpanzee o just forget it...

It is very obvious that no matter how much evidence we bring, you won`t accept it, and your pseudo skepticism/intellectualism will make you appear dumber than you really are
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:31pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
Because evil exist, God does not exist?
Read Isaiah 45:7, god even confirms that he creates evil, so he can`t be all good and all loving right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:29pm On May 14, 2018
ButterflyLeo and winner01, if christianity is the true religion why did god fail with judaism, isn`t he supposed to be perfect and omniscient, in fact why didn`t god just make adam and eve give birth to jesus to save them from their sins and free us all this wahala.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:20pm On May 14, 2018
The cumulative effect of prayer is zero
Prayers have been addressed to the Christian god for almost 2000 years and so, given the promises that Jesus made about answering these prayers, we should be able to see the long-term effects of God’s holy mercy and promises kept. But it’s not there. The following is an excerpt from an essay on:

http://new.exchristian.net/2015/11/were-on-our-own.html

So where is this God? Where is the God of the parking spaces and the greeting cards when 150 human beings are being senselessly butchered in the name of religion? Where is the net result of 2.4 billion prayers? Where is the result of 2,000 years worth of prayer? If this God existed and deigned to answer prayer, this planet would be completely different. But look around. Look for those answers. There are none.

We are on our own, people. There is no God out there. It’s time to finally come to terms with that, as a species. It’s time to stop praying and start taking matters into our own hands. The only ones who can save the humans are the humans. We must be our own salvation…

Everytime I think of Paris I get so f*cking angry. Religion did this. What is ISIS if not religion out of control? Religion has been killing humans ever since humans had religion.

Enough is enough.

So get your head out of your own ass. This ain’t no fuckin’ fairy tale. We are on our own…

The author of this piece is the proverbial boy stating that the emperor is naked, while everyone else is pretending to see his glorious garments. The evidence is irrefutable- 2000 years of prayers should have made a big difference, and the world would be a very different place if Christianity or any other religion was true. The sooner we realize we are on our own, the better chance we will have to make the world a decent place to live.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:14pm On May 14, 2018
When confronted with the size and scale of the universe and the myriad forms of evil, disasters, pain, and suffering, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the world described by Christianity does not match the world in which we live.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:13pm On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Thank you. Have you finished ranting? Oya google has asked that I give you your lollipop so your rants can stop disturbing their servers.
Christian: God hates abortion!
Atheist: Didn’t God kill some pregnant women in the Great Flood?
Christian: Well, yes, probably.
Atheist: Doesn’t that constitute abortion?
Christian: No.
Atheist: Why not?
Christian: Because God did it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:12pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
Are you suggesting that "God is evil", therefore God does not exist?
I`m saying that the god you believe in does not exist and even if he does, I would never want to worship and praise his barbaric character. I know you can`t justify anything i wrote up there so you are doing this. This just means that on some level you know your god is morally inferior to you. why don`t you just give him up? You won`t die, there is nothing to be afraid of, no devil will come for you in the night and your life will not get worse than it already is.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 3:06pm On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
If you know how useless this scripture made your above comment to look you would have thought twice before posting it.

And regarding your comment about me harming my fellow humans because of my beliefs despite my lifestyle as a believer in Jesus being against that shows how childishly you yet reason.

I suggest you beam your crusading atheistic words to people like the Mao Zedong the notorious atheist leader who singlehandedly murdered/killed a record number of about 80million people who stood against his beliefs as an atheist and the over 200million people who died at the hands of other atheist leaders because they also stood against their atheistic ideologies.

You can stop mentioning me now.
How does mao zedong concern me? is this how you argue? when all else fails call mao zedong`s name?
Did you know that hitler loved dogs? does that mean that all dog lovers are nazis?
Your friend loser0/100 winner 01 said i should be a freethinker, yet you and he quote bible verses and curse people instead of bringing convincing evidence for your murderer of a god. A god who create a whole 13.7 billion light year universe with one hundred billion galaxies each galaxy having billions of stars yet decided that the best course of action when dealing with adam and eve was to curse them and their innocent descendants. A god who wants all people to worship him, yet appears to only a group of nomads in the desert, orders them to kill anyone in the area instead of creating a new one or even appearing to the chinese who had record keeping then and would have recorded such a fantastic event.
In essence you and winner loser are the real children over here, with your poor reasoning and hypocrisy.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:52pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
How would a religious person call out religious leaders who acts as "Gods mouthpiece"?
You do not know what religion is.
Look at this guy oo. So are you saying that religious people don`t call out their leaders?

Oh, sorry I forgot you are an african christian who will listen to their pastor even if he tells them drink fuel and is never wrong when he makes a prediction. Smh.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:48pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
God said the words Bullsh*t or F*in are forbidden?

But according to you, God does not exist?

Are you using God as a standard to tell me what is right or wrong?

Smh.

Your initial reply was real Horseshoe*t, atheists have no relationship with reality or any other nonsense you make up?
Christianity: PEACE, LOVE and ACCEPTANCE.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:46pm On May 14, 2018
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Butterflyleo:
Smh. There is so much you are very ignorant of which is why you keep posting childish arguments. The life of Christ is not ritualistic based on observation of days or events but is a life.

The childish talk you posted above was already tackled and laid to rest in scripture thousands of years ago. Let me show you and I hope you would understand it.



Regarding the sabbath, this were the words of Jesus himself



In a nutshell, the sabbath is not a law made for man but a choice man can make to observe it or not observe it. Man is in charge of the sabbath and not the other way around.

You have a long way to go.
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Guy you are wrong, the version of christianity practised today is different from what jesus practised himself
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:45pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
I've not mentioned Yahweh on this thread. Stop wishing I did. Argue logically, what evidential history can you give for the existence of humans.

Or did humans appear at once and fully formed?

Cc: Dalaman??

I guess no atheist will ever answer this question honestly and the reason is obvious grin grin grin
Another example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:43pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
How come the consistent enemies of Jesus were religious leaders? undecided
Because jesus called them out on their hypocrisy and ridiculed them
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:42pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
Bullsh*t!!! Pure Bullsh*t!!!

What fu*ked up right do you have to tell these
other atheists
that they are wrong:
I don`t think god will be happy with your language
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:39pm On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Christianity isn't a religion but a relationship with their own reality (same shoe different designer so comfort levels differ)
You are right christianity is a relationship that denies reality in favor of one of it`s choosing.

Christians Aren't Christians because they want to be good people so can live with themselves while alive. They want to be good people to others AT THE EXPENSE of themselves while alive, not based on the motivation of heaven but based on the TRANSFORMATION of their once selfish and sinful nature to the one that has been imputed on them by the acceptance of death and ressurection of Jesus.
And he gives another EPIC FAIL, christianity would have almost no followers if there wasnt:
A promise of eternal reward(heaven)
A promise of eternal punishment(hell)
An easy way for the gullible convert to get rid of his/her sins(believing that jesus died for your sins, which is false)
Making backsliding into sin very easy by saying all our natural human impulses and behaviors are sinful(where christians say masturbating, thinking lustful thoughts, holding grudge, doubting god etc)

If you wish to die and become maggot food its your cup of tea. That in itself speaks of hopelessness for even the bible said and I quote
And you are allowed to believe in any god. You can even believe that all secular music is satanic for all I care. But the day your start to harm my fellow human beings because of your beliefs I will have a problem with you. The day you start involving those angels and demons in decision making for our nation, I have a big problem with you
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:25pm On May 14, 2018
In Matthew 19:16-21, Jesus is asked by a man what he must do to attain eternal life. His answer does not comply with the Christian concept of atonement- that the only way to heaven is to accept the blood sacrifice of Jesus on the cross:

And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” Then he said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER; YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY; YOU SHALL NOT STEAL; YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS; HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER; and YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

If Jesus believed the same as modern Christianity, his answer would have been:

Believe thou with all thy heart that I have come to cleanse the multitudes of their sins with my blood. He that believeth in my atonement shall have eternal life. He that believeth not shall be damned for eternity.

There is no stronger evidence that Jesus was not a Christian by today’s standards. The answer he gave to the man is not the answer that would be given by any conventional Christian today. It is obvious that the religion of Jesus is not the religion of Christianity, but rather Christianity is the religion of Paul.

Whether Jesus ever had this exchange or not, it is evident that what he is alleged to have said was the understanding of the author of Matthew at the time (around 75 AD) and was most likely the most accurate description of the core beliefs of the Jesus followers of that time.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:21pm On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
If God did not make contact with humans then humans wouldn't be UNIVERSALLY talking about God regardless of the many variants.

Did they have a general universal consensus at a meeting somewhere where this decision was taken?

There is no need for ONE RELIGION because God is not Religious. Jesus was not religious. So if you are using religion or the idea that there should be one religion to justify the existence of God then you are sadly mistaken.

I have said this repeatedly on this forum that Christianity is not a religion but a way of life. What we have as gathering places is not a church but a building where the church (body of believers) gather. (I hope you can understand something this simple).

Your logic is rather childish.
Fail. Jesus was a Jew and supported the Jewish laws and traditions, though he might have softened some of the more stringent rules. Nevertheless, if you do not observe the Halakha, the collective body of Jewish religious laws, you cannot consider yourself to be a follower of Jesus. If you do not attend synagogue, you cannot be a follower of Jesus. If you do not observe the Sabbath, from Friday evening to Saturday evening, you cannot be a follower of Jesus. If you do not observe the requirement of circumcision, you cannot be a follower of Jesus. If you do not observe the kosher dietary rules, you cannot be a follower of Jesus.

To summarize, you can consider yourself to be a Christian, but you are not a follower of Jesus. If Jesus could observe your life, he would not consider you to be his disciple. You are not a follower of the real Jesus. Instead, you are a follower of the fictional Jesus created by Paul, the Gospel authors, the Emperor Constantine, and all the popes and religious leaders over the past 20 centuries.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:19pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
I remember this quote from one of the 4-horsemen of atheism, I can't remember whose is it exactly.

Be a freethinker for once.
lol. like how you quote bible verses for us right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:15pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
How are we able to observe the correctness of atheism in the daily lives of atheists?


You started the population argument by saying people are turning away from Christianity, I simply gave you the facts. I'm well aware the the validity of Christianity must be argued on other grounds.
Atheism: It isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship with reality. Atheists aren`t atheists because of some benefit, we are who we are because we finally realise that we don’t want to be good people so we can live with God after we die. We want to be good people so we can live with ourselves while we are alive.

Now turning your question on its head How are we able to observe the correctness of christianity in the daily lives of christians? is it in the ineffectiveness failure of prayer? is it in the fact that today’s Christianity is not the original Christianity. It was altered and rewritten starting with Constantine, so that it can serve as a political force. It worked great during the Middle Ages to control society and send masses off to war. Catholicism was not a benevolent organization. The real Jesus (not real name) was an obscure person (no miracles) who sought enlightenment and esoteric knowledge, like Buddha, and had a small group of followers. Miracles were inserted in the Bible to communicate with a child-like, illiterate, audience. The Romans, Jews, and Greeks were polytheistic, as the Hindus. Also, Catholicism got it’s teachings from ancient Egypt, (Sun God), Babylon, astrology, paganism, (Christmas tree, mistletoe, Easter, Winter Solstice) Mithraism, and other pre-Christian beliefs and practices.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:08pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
What is the evidential history of humans, shouldn't this be a very easy question for you?
It is but arguing with a Christian is like playing chess with a pigeon. You could be the greatest player in the world, but the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces, sh/t on the board, and strut around triumphantly. No matter the evidence that is brought up, you will cling to your God because you are afraid of exercising your brain and going to hell for it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:04pm On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Do you know why people give up on atheism? Its because they got tires or the false evidence they claimed to have when faced with true reality which did not support the false evidence they often threw around and this awareness further deepened their already depressed state and forced them to seek for help on how to come out of this depression.

SPIRITUAL evidence does not subscribe to EMPIRICAL science. So whatever you are talking about regarding evidence when referring to spiritual things implodes automatically.
If a god made contact with humans, it would be so obvious and universal that there would be only one religion. Since this has not happened, it is reasonably certain that no god has made contact with humans, and furthermore, it is highly probable that he/she/it either does not exist or else does not know that we exist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:03pm On May 14, 2018
winner01:
lol, people have been giving up on Christianity, yet Christianity is still more than 1/3 of the total worlds population while atheism keeps regressing smiley
Argumentum ad populum. The fact that 2.1 billion people believe that God sacrificed God to God to save God’s creations from God does not in any way mean that they are correct and if they were, we would expect to see this in our observation of daily life now wouldn`t we? cool
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 1:53pm On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
Absolutely, fantastically, AMAZINGLY RIGHT!

Despite claiming to be an agnostic and an "I don't know" merchant he still pulls the atheism of the gaps delusion.
do you know why people give up on christianity? It is because the evidence failed to support the purported claims and they actually care if what they believe is factually true or not.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Fear Of A 'god' Is The Beginning Of Stupidity by RuthlessLeader(m): 1:42pm On May 14, 2018
There is evidence that the typical Christian has a compartment in the brain where religious beliefs are stored and which does not communicate with other areas of the brain associated with patterns, logic, and critical thinking. The failure of this neural passageway results in unrecognized hypocritical ideas. The following is taken from:

http://www.evilbible.com/Top_Ten_List.html

entitled “Top 10 Signs You Are a Fundamentalist Christian:”

10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!

6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.

2 – You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

It is difficult to step outside of ourselves and see us as others do, but this is a necessary step to achieve a knowledge of objective reality. Otherwise, we are burdened with thoughts and ideas that have been hardwired in our brains by our parents, friends, teachers, and pastors, as well as the limited range of our personal experiences. It is evident that many Christians are in this situation- belief based on the imprint of others as opposed to the free exercise of critical thought.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Fear Of A 'god' Is The Beginning Of Stupidity by RuthlessLeader(m): 1:37pm On May 14, 2018
Primesky:
You are simply living in denial, but that doesn't matter nor will it ever matter as far as the truth is concerned. At least you know God gave His son to die, right? Why?. so your sins could be forgiven. Well, there is no more arguments. You said it. But the choice is yours. I guess the question is, are you sinless?. That is, can you say, I haven't done anything wrong?. I guess your answer is as good as mine if you're honest, because no man is sinless. If the only one who can forgive sins says this is the condition before i'll do it, and has in fact paid the price, the most difficult aspect of it for you, what exactly will be your excuse now?.
Why do I have to believe in Jesus to be forgiven if I don’t have to believe in Adam and Eve to be condemned?

As for you saying the bible was written by men of bronze age, well, everything written in that book you call bronze myth, has occurred in amazing accuracy just as those bronze age men prophesied. You see what's happening in Jerusalem this week, I'm not talking about last year, or last decade, I mean this week. Do you even know what's happening there?. (Jerusalem becoming the capital of Israel.) Non of our 21st century professors could have imagined that a decade ago. All playing out their was prophesied in accurate detail thousands of years ago, please, tell me the probability of getting it so acurately after so many years?. Maybe you're not doing your research well enough. If you feel too lazy to research the bible, I suggest you study those who have. They are there on YouTube. And then ask how could it be so accurate, how could those old ignorant bronze age men be so accurate?. The eyes that look are many but the eyes that actually see are few. Be very sure of what you're doing. Eternity is not a joke. If you go over there without Jesus, I can't even explain the horror.
A divine being ‘dictating’ to human writers would almost certainly have done a better job of establishing a clear and well understood doctrine that would not have required a quarrelsome debate among human interpreters for the next twenty centuries.

Mind you, God does not force people into hell, rather, people choose to go their by their choices.
I know that now you are desperate, God says do what you wish, but make the wrong choice and you will be tortured for eternity in hell. That’s not free will. It’s like a man telling his girlfriend, do what you wish, but if you choose to leave me, I will track you down and blow your brains out. When a man says this we call him a psychopath. When god says the same we call him “loving” and build churches in his honor.

Just like you will naturally throw away everything you consider as dirty and useless in your house. But assuming, the stuffs that become dirts actually had the choice of being clean stuffs but chose rather to be dirt, what will you do?. For me, I will be very well justified to throw them away. This is what it's like. The Universe is God's house. We're all His creations, now He's telling you, look I can't have you the way you're, you need to be washed and be made clean. Out of love and desire that you be clean and be among His clean stuffs that He can keep, He went all the way to pay the price of that washing for you, requiring that you only make the choice to be clean. He doesn't and will never force you. It's totally your choice.
The bolded there, let me take that analogy further. Assuming these stuffs are your children, you are telling me that you cannot just clean them by force because they don`t want to but you will throw them out of your house simply because you cant stand it. Shame on you and your Barbaric god.

The blood of Jesus cleanses and saves. Jesus still saves today. The Choice is yours.
According to Christianity, not believing in Jesus is a worse sin than murder. Please I implore every sane person to live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

Depressed teen: Nobody accepts me!
Jesus: I know the feeling.
Depressed teen: What do you do when they won’t accept you?
Jesus: I tell them to go to Hell
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by RuthlessLeader(m): 11:53am On May 14, 2018
Butterflyleo:
There is no creation without a creator. Its that simple. Be it by spoken word or as a by product of something else. There is nothing that was caused to exist by something else that isn't a creation of that thing. Its simple law of cause and effect.

Be it rocks which are formed through a process, the creator are those which came together during the process to form the rocks or an ocean or oceans and seas which scientists speculate were once in gaseous state and then when the earth cooled it turned to rain and filled the places where they are as oceans and seas. That must have been one hell of a downpour to have caused such massive bodies of water which somehow also got buried deep down in the earth and saturated it because the inside of the earth is also filled with water.

There is no creation without a creator. Even the by products of this creation still points at a creator which made or formed them. Nothing on this earth exists on its own.
And why do you think this creator is the god of Christianity(a god that “chose” a certain people over all others and helped them to murder other people, men, women, and children, who were just as good and honorable, tells you that one of two things is true- either that god doesn’t exist or he doesn’t deserve to be worshiped, and if it’s the latter, we are f*cked). since the Bible and the church are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Fear Of A 'god' Is The Beginning Of Stupidity by RuthlessLeader(m): 11:47am On May 14, 2018
Primesky:
Wise man, you too will die and go right?. Be sure you end up in the right place that's the crux of the matter. Arguments won't save no body. The message is true to itself. You make your choice and earn the consequences as well. Wether it sounds stupid and foolish to you is your own personal business. I have chosen and will face the consequences, you will as well. No need to curse and abuse OK?.

Tragedy is to believe there is no God while on earth, and therefore live carelessly, only to discover after death, that infact He exist and is real and all you were told about Him is real and there is no going back to make corrections. That my dear, is tragedy!. If I get there and there is nothing like such, what would I lose?. I guess common sense is not common after all.

Nevertheless, the truth I can't deny is that Jesus loves you so much that He died for you, and if you sincerely repent of your sins and accept Him now that you are alive, He will graciously pardon and accept you. That's eternal life.

Jesus Christ saves!.
Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous. Once you realize that the Bible was written by ordinary Bronze Age men and that it contains mostly myth and fictionalized history, then everything makes sense.

A god who actually loved us would, first of all, not threaten us with Hell. Second, he would let us know who he is and make his existence positively known. Third, if he decided to give us life after death, he would guide every one of us to this happy place. The god of Christianity fails on all of these points.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Who Knows The Interpretation Of This Dream by RuthlessLeader(m): 11:27am On May 14, 2018
GRAMMARJAMES:
Good Morning Nairaland.

Happy Sunday to you all.

I had a dream last night and it goes thus.

I was walking with my friend , we were both gisting and laughing out loud, as we walked through a field, we then saw plenty eggs (uncooked ones) on D floor, the eggs was so much that we couldn't step forward without stepping on them, . that's how we started packing them, fortunately for me, I saw a bucket and I was putting mine inside, my friend was putting his own inside his clothes, thousand of people joined and was packing free eggs. after I've packed enough, I suddenly saw maggot coming out from my bucket, I called my friends attention who advised me to throw the eggs away and so I can wash the bucket and start all over since there are still plenty eggs to pack. I then threw up my eggs and went straight to wash the bucket, before I came back, I discovered that all the eggs are gone, I asked my friend what happened and he said FG (Federal Government) have mopped up the area . I was then left stranded without a single egg with me. that's how I woke up.

Nairalanders please who knows what this means.

forgive my Grammar Abeg.

Lalasticlala
mynd44
It means you had a dream like a normal person so don`t worry about it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Over 30,000 Denominations Of The Christian Church And Cannot Agree? by RuthlessLeader(m): 11:12am On May 14, 2018
According to Christianity, God will send an atheist who lived a just, loving, and generous life to hell while sending to heaven a serial rapist/murderer who confessed his sins immediately before execution. It is incumbent on conscientious people everywhere to hunt down this god and kill it.

Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous.

Asking ‘if there is no god, what is the purpose of life?’ is like asking ‘if there is no master, whose slave shall I be?’

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Christianity Etc › Major World Religions, And Their View On The Afterlife. by RuthlessLeader(op): 10:11am On May 14, 2018
There are over 7 billion people in the world today and all of them are in a competition to see who is right. What most religious people don`t consider is how their correctness affects each other.

1.)Christians: 2,100,000,000 adherents
If they are correct, over 4.9 billion people will burn in hell forever without a chance of redemption, this includes children as well. This is without confronting the fact that there are over 33000+ denominations with different beliefs and doctrines and many christians still lead a sinners life.

2.)Muslims: 1,500,000,000 persons
If they are correct, over 5.5 billion people go to jahannam when they die, of course disregarding those muslims who break Allah`s laws.

3.)Of no religion: 1,100,000,000 Human Beings
If they are correct, nobody goes to any afterlife of punishment or one of enjoyment, because when we die we lose consciousness forever.

4.)Hindus: 900,000,000 adherents
If they are correct, all sinners( those who are not virtuous, devoted to charity, good people etc) go to Naraka where they are punished according to the severity of the sins they committed in life. After punishment, they are re-incarnated.

5.)Chinese folk religionists: 400,000,000 persons
If they are correct, sinners descend to hell, located at the base of Mount Meru. There they undergo a fixed period of punishment in one or more levels of hell. The duration of this punishment may be reduced by the intercession of the merciful Ti-ts'ang. When the punishment is complete, the souls in hell drink an elixir of oblivion in preparation for their next reincarnation. They then climb on the wheel of transmigration, which takes them to their next reincarnation, or, in an alternative account, they are thrown off the bridge of pain into a river that sweeps them off to their next life.

6.)Primal religionists: 400,000,000 Human Beings
If they(whichever one) are correct, well, you will just have to wait and die first cause I am not even sure self.

7.)Buddhists: 375,000,000 adherents
If they are correct, sinners who end up in hell can can work themselves upward by making use of the merit that they had acquired previously. There are no locks on the gates of hell. Hell is a temporary place and there is no reason for those beings to suffer there forever. This is because buddhists believe that no man should be condemned eternally but that he should be given every chance to develop himself.

8.)Sikhs: 24,000,000 persons
If they are correct, they believe that both heaven and hell are unimportant places and that hell is forgetting god undecided .

9.)Jews: 14,500,000 Human Beings
If they are correct, EVERYBODY goes to a place known in the Bible as Sheol, where there is no punishment or reward. In fact, the more pessimistic books of the Bible, such as Ecclesiastes and Job, insist that all of the dead go down to Sheol, whether good or evil, rich or poor, slave or free man (Job 3:11-19)

10.)Baha'is: 7,400,000 adherents
If they are correct, then there is no physical place such as heaven or hell and that every religion that has those two concepts are meant to be understood symbolically, as they describe nearness to and from god. They believe that the soul is on an eternal journey to perfection.

11.)Jains: 4,300,000 persons
If they are correct, Depending on one's karma and level of spiritual development, death may mean being reborn in another physical appearance in the earthly realm, suffering punishment in one of eight hells or joining other liberated souls in the highest level of heaven. Unlike hell imagery in most other systems, the eight hells of Jainism become progressively colder as they go down. Suffering in these hells is not eternal. Once a soul has been severely punished, he or she is reborn into another form.

12.)Shintoists: 4,000,000Human Beings
If they are correct, you're expected to make your own heaven on earth. Many Shintoists find this a bit lacking so they belong to another religion to take care of the afterlife and use Shinto to take care of this life. This doesn't cause any conflict because Shintoists believe that other religions' Gods are just another Kami. They do this because Shinto is a practical religion that focuses on harmony between nature and society using the Kami to cement the relationship. Shintoists believe that everything starts out clean but picks up "spiritual dirt" along the way from negative thoughts, actions, and contamination by unclean substances (such as blood). Shinto rituals are designed to remove the contamination and restore the original clean state.

13.)Taoism: 2,700,000 adherents
If they are correct, Afterlife doesn't exist regarding a taoist belief system. A person is eternal in their own life means afterlife is just an another part of life or afterlife lies within life itself. When you alive: You are inside the plot of your time. You are both the hero and protagonist of your own. Basically, you have control over almost everything.When you die: You will go outside the plot means beyond your time. You will see it by not viewing, not experiencing anything at all. Your essence will develop new form & story.

According to Chuang-Tzu:

“Since life and death are each other’s companions,
why worry about them? All beings are one.”

Taoism is simply rational, well organized philosophy rather than a religion. There’s no nothing related with re-incarnation. You simply go to the Tao after your death but you’re already the part of it.


The tao that can be told is not an eternal tao. -Tao Te Ching cool


So with all of this information which one do you wish is true,say so in the comments below.

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