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No. Twitter clearly said they are targetting the zoo - but will stay in the half-decent Ghana. That is only advantage you got. You need to use that window of opportunity before Nigeria wakes up. Okay they will never wake up.

vaxx:
if only you know how stupid you sound. Ghana with population nearly half your country is been chosen by word tech giant like Google and also was again chosen by another social media giant like Twitter and you ignorantly think Ghana is not living your hunger cesspit behind. Ghana will continue to harness anything good about Africa to herself because her political predecessor has set the standard. we are the champion of democracy and free speech in Africa and that is one of the major yardstick in setting the standard.

During Zain Africa challenge - Ghana never made to even prelimanaries. Yes obviously every country has their national thing. Ghana remember again is bottom in any ranking of education outside West Africa.

Just40:
why do you want to see Japanese and Germany school kids in Ghana national school competition?

Oh I see, the English screwed with your head.


Your dumb self will not know where to start from to answering even 10% of the questions being asked.

2019


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIqvbF7qFgA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKegtemUFuU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXh-UrcO4KM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngafym1lVT0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSvnbvG8bGc

Even the international media covers the event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az35rRNouLA

Again he studied at Alliance - and Brookhouse. Alliance is a high school. Therefore he probably went to Brookhouse for international baccalaureate to enable him to go to Canada. Besides what would make you thing an Engineering student is not as bright as Arts student.Just because the TZ biracial kid speak with a foreign accent?

My friend - the average Tanzanian kid- after high school - cannot read or speak English.

Acadavah:
Wtf are you talking about? Your boy studied at Brookhouse international school in Kenya. He isn't poor that why I compared him with another one from international school in Tanzania, I don't know why you keep talking about alliance school when he clearly said he studied at Brookhouse international school.

All I see are obtuse Ghana kids - I didn't see any Japanase or Germany kid.

Just40:
Someone is here celebrating debates meanwhile Ghanaian kids are doing SCIENCE and MATHS quizzes and competiting in international robotics, engineering, Math and Science competitions with Japan, Korea, Germany, USA kids and etc and coming out the best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_rxmHuKm8o

*Price announce*ment at 5min
Qu*iz starts at 2 hours and 5 minute

Starehe versus Lenana - Lenana and Mangu where during our time the best in Maths and Science. I did St patrick iten maths test in form 2 and came top nationally -and I hear some fools here say I am maths challenged


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjH2B9vYjI8

Precisely. It's a big shock to them when someone non-european can string two sentence of English

An average Kenyan high school kid - mostly from rural areas - can beat the best international TZ kids


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iizm3IQXV8&t=219s

Zfree:
You perfectly described the Bongolala lot. These people's reasoning and arguments are dumb beyond belief. The simpleton is just focusing on the English accents of the two students. He is too dumb to even look at the big picture here. One student is studying Engineering and the other is studying anthropology. That is all you need to know about the intellectual and academic capabilities of those two students.

Kenya public school kid - Alliance Girls. She was 13 in KCPE_ at the time clocked 449 out of the possible 500 in her KCPE Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/308332-2008-top-kcpe-candidate-amazes-harvard-university-audience-brilliant-commencement-speech.html

Harvard Commencement 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7BYyR93WQ

LOL? Typical Tanzanian, my friend describe the average TZ as : petty, violent, superstitious, bombastic, jingoistic, anti intellectual and meddler in all affairs. Like MAGUFULI the late.

You clearly said: Kenyan International Student vis TZ international Student - turn out to be Maasai rural kid versus Tanzania elite International school biracial kid - and Kenyan beat him.

Alliance boys get kids nationally from all corners of kenya. Kenya kid is studying Engineering. He is pretty good in STEM. The TZ kid international biracial kid is studying ARTS.

One is rich kid. The other is poor Kenyan kid but thanks to his brains; he is up there;

The only Tanznnian kid who can speak English is in international school

Now bring us the equivalent of public school like Alliance.

The number of ALLIANCE HIGH school kids in Stanford, Yale, Harvard,MIT and all IVY league is STAGGERING. These are mostly rural kids who topped their district and got admitted to national school.

In fact before 2005-2010 when we invested locally - Kenya was leading Africa in the number of kids in IVY league. Now Nigeria leads. Unlike say Nigeria or Ghana or such backwater - individual kid passing exams - kenya it a system than ensure all kids score As and end up in the best possible universities.

Acadavah:
Have you watch the video? I said Alliance then Brookhouse which is an international school. Brookhouse is an international school and I have never said Alliance is an international school so you are just diverting the main thing that your guy studied at the top notch kenyan international school which taught him a village English.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COmT6dHRuW8

The third best high school is Moi High School kabarak - this Moi own home. Moi was teacher before he became a politician and president - and his first love was education - saw him establish the best school in his own house - and many other schools - all over kenya. During our time Tanzanian president sent his kid to Kabarak.

Moi picked bright kids from poor background and got the best resources for the best results. Mean score like Alliance is normally an A.

In my computer science degree - 1/4 of kids were from alliance - 1/4 from kabarak.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcaDa8DJ6z4

Starehe Boys - during our time was epitome of high school sucess - and it was school meant for Orphans and poor kids - who didn't pay fees. They picked the top poorest kid - very brilliant motivated kids - who didn't pay any fees - and were incredibly driven and disciplined.

Starehe and Alliance Boys would take like the first 100 position in Medicine.

After the death of the founder George Griffin - the Brit who started National Youth Service in Kenya - it seem to have gone down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rTGYV31a8&t=50s

Don't act like a Ghanian. Alliance HAS NEVER been an international school.

Alliance is what we call national school in kenya. These are public schools that admit student nationally. Normally they admit the top 1 or 2 student in every district after KCPE (primary exams). It part of national quota - so you'll find a Maasai kid like him or Somali kid - as long as they lead in their district.

Some national schools in Kenya - Alliance Boys, Alliance Girls, Starehe Boys, Kenya High, etc etc.

Then we have provincial schools - they admit kids within their province or now county.

Then we have district schools - admit within district

Alliance - is normally among top school in Kenya - in KCSE. If you want to find out Kenya education prowess start from Alliance. See Kenya kids wake up at 3 am. 5 am all student are up. Teachers are up teaching by 5 AM!!!!!!!! - all these kids came top in their districts. They kill those SATS like nonsense and go to best universities if they want. Normally mean score is A or A-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-aETtbK6c

International School - those don't follow kenya system - mostly British or American or International curriculum - Brookhouse, ISK,Banda, St Andrew Turn, Rift Valley Academy, Braeburn, Crawford, Aga Khan

The day schools.

Acadavah:
Alliance then Brookhouse which is an international school watch again. The lady is not biracial

Over-paved? Less green. Kenya cities are actually under-paved and don't have a problem with greenery. If Joburg is thought to be green - Nairobi is congo forest. I can barely see vegetation in Cape Town or Durban.

As for zoning - yes there are obviously flaw linked to poverty - most especially in say Eastland of Nairobi.

Randlord:
You can definitely learn landscaping and streetscaping from SA. At ground level your city is disappointing, over paved and not as green as it looks from above. Yes, you've managed to keep some semblance of zoning but to a learned eye there are glaring flaws with your zoning and how you implement it. In short there is no 'placemaking'.

When Abuja is about to reach here in - in the 22nd century let us know

Westland


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwzB_R5hV5U

Upperhill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sc8w3V55Uw

CBD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLa97b9b1g

Kilimani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_sRODhFsK0

Abuja - good roads - around the CBD - but generally low rise building - very sparse. The city still not there. It almost empty civil servant city.

Look at Nairobi CBD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYMEU3erBZ4

Are all west African based in south africa or MTN is sending internet traffic back to their home country.

Kuruptnigga:
What's so special about this upper hill crap. Garki alone will make your Nairobi look like a shitthol.

This is Garki. Just take your time, old man

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCZuyj2TpH1g&ved=2ahUKEwj6ka7Y8f3vAhVkxoUKHd5kCxYQ28sGMAB6BAgDEAc&usg=AOvVaw0WQAYxQnwfz0YtjIDdZ_eE

Eko City is private sector while Konza city is public sector driven.
Eko city is mixed used - Konza city is open only to tech and research companies.
konza city is 5000 - the 1st Phase (1A) -60 acres is well underway with horizontal infrastructure nearing completion.
Both cities are still largely unoccupied -
Konza has completed the secretariat office block and the data center.

68816419:
That place looks underdeveloped than what I thought at first, over 90% of the roads networks, drainage, and other infrastructures are not built, The Konza city will takes over 100 years to get completed .
Eko Atlantic started almost the same time Konza was designed and eko Atlantic has completed all major roads, 13 new bridges, underground drainage, 2 millions trees , Jetty terminals, street lighting, and even many ongoing structures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuuVxmsbW0

The truth hurts but are very stubborn things
1) Google opened it's first Sub-Saharan office (outside South Africa) in Nairobi in 2006/2007 - Our current Minister of ICT was hired as it's head.
http://whiteafrican.com/2007/06/05/google-hires-first-african-employee/

2) Kenya began planning for Konza Techno city in 2006 - as we saw investment in ICT sector ramp up.
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/konza-konza-technology-city-u-c.351166/

2021 - 2006 is 15yrs.

Ghana is excited about Twitter and Google AI office 15yrs later.

Stuff like Ushahidi - developed by my friends - were top hit in 2008

As for now - Nairobi (Kenya), Lagos and Joburg are competing for FDI to sector - with Nairobi leading mostly - Lagos second and Joburg third.

Appisko:
Something is seriously wrong with your head

Wtf is not funny anymore

Well, I found it remarkable, coz Nairobi is huge construction, everywhere is a crane or construction site.

And this is precisely why Nairobi will catch up and overtake Joburg soon. What Nairobi lacks is the lipstick...mainly street level paving of walk ways and of course to eliminate the slums by investing in huge social housing.

Joburg like south africa like I have said before plataued without becoming a developed nation. It like many Latin America nations - save probably for Chile and Argentina.

If you go to countries in South Asia - likes of Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, China and etc - you can see them becoming developed nation - because the country are still developing despite being upper middle class countries like South Africa.

Randlord:
The lack of cranes is not indicative of a dearth of construction and nor is construction an end in itself. Most of the construction of buildings is done and what's left are the roads and the streetscape. Look at that streetscape, will all due respect Nairobi can learn something. There needs to be some sort of a master plan, not tall buildings randomly plopped in the middle of quite suburbia.

If you harness afCFA secretariat; and Nigeria well known weakness; you could take some action off lagos. But in Africa - I think the action will remain in Nairobi, Joburg, Cario, Lagos and Capetown - with few crumbs throw to Accra and Kampala.

Tech wise - Ghana is where Kenya was about 15yrs ago.

Now our technopolis city phase 1 is about to get off ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNJXxLbzj-U

vaxx:
Just a reminder, apart from #Twitter, Google also has its Artificial Intelligence (AI) lab in Africa located in Accra, Ghana.

Ghana is fast becoming the technological hub of Africa



I foresee Ghana receiving some finnest bright mind across Africa due to economic migration.

Videos are good. There is no argument that South Africa is a proper middle class country.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Around the 27th I'll be in menlyn

I'll shoot the whole thing the construction there is insane, I was there during February , he only shown the other part that we call Menlyn Maine.

Do you want to see a vid or pics?

Very nice -menlyn look really nice- but I don't see sign of any construction- I think I saw one crane - in the entire video.

AfriqueDuZuid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4yiu25pc8

Tour to menlyn

Bank city is part of Joburg inner city - how can it be a CBD? It's not a district. It's block.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Bank city,

One of many Johannesburg CBDs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI_uOxPyTCU

What is impressive about these grainy pictures.

Upper hill alone would knock Abuja senseless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KesHKM8dXhw

Kuruptnigga:
Lol

See man, Nairobi is a thick slum. No hating but just the truth. Abuja is miles ahead of any craphole in Kenya Nairobi can't even be compared to Port Harcourt.

Nigeria has huge scope for growth in aviation. Passenger traffic of 17M for country 4 times more populated than kenya...Kenya is doing as of 2019..I think nearly 13m. That tells you Nigeria should be doing 50m passengers...Not 17M. South Africa does more than 40M passengers annually with OR Tambo in Joburg handling more than 20m. Worldwide more than 4.5B passengers travel annually...so the scope is huge.

Fix the taxes and levies - and domestic airlines will be enough pie for many operators. Nigeria is huge country with poor road infrastructure - so air travel will be safe and convenient - and cheaper.

abnot:
Yes it’s tough to operate cheaply here as there are a number of agencies that rely on revenue from air passengers for their funding which makes aviation somewhat elitist in Nigeria

that is damn expensive. in kenya you will fly with 10K naira.

abnot:
ENDORSEMENT/RESTRICTION : NON REF/NO END/NO SHOW APPLIES/VALID ON W3 ONLY
FARE CALCULATION AREA : LOS W3 PHC27.07 W3 LOS20.33NUC47.40END ROE412.200000
FARE : NGN 19,543.00
TAXES : NGN 6,542.00 QT NGN 2,478.00 NG1
SURCHARGES : NGN 30,000.00 YQ
SERVICE FEE : NGN 500.00 SF
OTHER FEE :
TOTAL : 59,063.00 NGN
PAYMENT : Card Payment 450073********67




Kindly find above from a domestic ticket I bought two weeks ago (port harcourt to lagos 45 mins). Look at the fare structure and the tax element as well as surcharges

But most of airline taxes and levies are for international flights; for domestic flight; they should not apply. There is no reason why you cannot fly for 30 dollars o any part of nigeria - because the airline will take about 45 mins or 1 hour.

It's better than trying to compete with Emirates in the international market.

abnot:
There is a startup called green africa that is promising to offer cheap commute across the country using the fuel efficient ATR72-600. I believe that will bring down prices however the multiple charges to aviation agencies on each flight ticket issued in Nigerian may make lowcost travel a wishful thinking

Nigeria need to fix domestic airlines first - have air ticket as competitive as bus ticket.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kenya-jambojet-idUSKBN1WA2OF

Like budget carriers in Europe and South Africa, Jambojet passengers only pay for seats. The airline charges extra for services such as baggage and meals, allowing ticket prices to compete with buses and trains.

It not about money - it's about discipline and professionalism - airline is about keeping time - every second matter - and it about safety. Ethiopia is a poor country - and they do good job - because Ethiopians are incredibly disciplined people. Rwanda is small country but Rwanda Air is kicking arse. Both Rwandese and Ethiopians can hack military style discipline...for safety and time.

Nigeria airline should not rush to international market before they nail basic in the domestic market. The domestic market alone if developed is huge. Nigeria is huge country - twice kenya - and if prices are brought to compete with buses...that is a lot of money.

KQ's jambojet subsidiary flies you for 30 dollars - to Kisumu or Nairobi or Eldoret or Mombasa - and they are profitable. 30 dollars...is competitive with buses...who charge 15 to 20 dollars. In Europe no frill airliness fly you for 30 dollars to international destination. So Nigerian should concentrate there...Abuja to Lagos for 30 dollars!

Airline industry is very brutal. No margin for error. You'll lose your shirt.

abnot:
I dont want to totally right off nigerian airlines because upper middle class Nigerians are mobile and travel a lot. Also the population is large and the geographical position of Nigeria is good for aviation but the airlines are weakly capitalised as a result they cannot afford to buy modern efficient aircrafts. But I feel for some of the operators too. They borrow at 24% interest rate, they cannot lease, they operate at very ancient airports with poor infrastructure, they source for dollars on the streets, the pay huge premiums on insurance (due to thetype of aircrafts they operate ), they ferry aircrafts to MROs in europe, the unions are harsh towards them, the government is harsh towards them and so many other things working against them. Its as a result of these factors I don't want to bash them because as it is the foreign airlines will continue to dominate the nigerian market if all these issues are not resolved. But if these things are resolved some Nigerian airlines will stand a chance in the near future.

As for airpeace I've been frustrated by poor performance in area of punctuality and also disappointed that they made many mistakes other airlines previously made. However looking at the investments they are making I don't want to bash them too much. Even richard branson or delta (with their huge capital base) wont make that kind of investment in Nigerian aviation of today knowing the myriad of problems in the sector. It is for this reason that I try not drag them based on their many shortcomings (poor timing, poor customer service, unprofessionalism and others). I want at least two or three Nigerian airlines to do well in Africa.

KQ have been there - done that. But airline is such a serious business - I don't see Nigerians hacking. It would take Ethiopean kind of discipline to hack it. You got respect time and make sure nothing go wrong. Airline business has very little margin of error...and for long time KQ worked because KLM/Air france were running the most critical function. They were the strategic partners - and now KLM have pulled out - and KQ frankly is on her death bed.

My money is on Rwanda Air - replacing KQ - and joining Ethiopean Airline.

Tanzania and Uganda are not gonna hack it.

As for KQ future - Cargo may well save it - and the super profitable routes in Central and Western Africa - although Arabs airline are eating everyone lunch.

As for Air Peace - let us not dignify nonsense please. You can go to the US - pick abandoned airline for even 10 dollars (there is a whole thousand yard of abandoned airline) - repair them - and flying those coffins in Nigeria - but don't try that kind of joke abroad. Insurance alone - who will insure that crap? that doesn't even have working AC? Maybe it fly like Dafno or TROTRO . It can work on domestic route flying to very dangerous places - where airline can go down for any reason. Fly to Somalia or Chad or Darfur. Actually fly to Maiduguri - and take UN staff feeding the people there...they don't care if they die or live..it part of their job. That is how many airlines in Kenya operate flying to dangerous places.

abnot:
Lol KQ is way ahead of airpeace but since KQ is losing steam and airpeace is growing the dynamics may change a few years from now. The weak position of many Nigerian airlines is a reflection of the harsh environment they operate in. But for now KQ is still top 5 in Africa though I must admit they are likely to continue losing their share of the market as airlines are coming up . In east Africa air Tanzania, rwandair and Uganda airlines are gradually taking control of their local markets and you have the might Ethiopian growing aggressively . In west Africa if Two or three Nigerian airlines succeed nobody will want to transit through east Africa

Sorry, edited. It was a picture the shackman proudly posted. You can imagine for 3 years he'd been pressing folks here to post their pictures! You got to give him credit for very high almost delusional self-esteem. It's kind a south african thing - they imagine like American or Europe do that rest of us in Africa live on trees!!!!!!!! The shackman was definitely shocked nobody was impressed by his ramshackle - and the story changed - he was at his grand ma! giving her back massage! It's definitely a single bed self contained iron roofed hovel.

Shma2020:
What am I missing ?

Nigerian and Tanzanian drug pushers are feed tubing him with all sort of stuff - if you saw his famous pic on a ceiling less tin roofed shack - you cannot miss the tell-tale signs of drug usage. Apertheid was better - he'd just get by with African beer.

Shma2020:
shackman is always confused and out of context. He is not mentally well ; .

Shackman, I duly converted that to dollars, roughly 400M dollars.

AfriqueDuZuid:
40 billion Kenyan shilling not dollars

Of the top 20 Saccos in Africa, 18 are from Kenya.. Kenya sacco boast about 10B dollars in asset/savings...employs 0.5M directly and 1.5M indirectly. The banks control about 45B dollars in assets...and some Sacco own banks.

Kenyans are resourcefully, cooperative and smart that nearly every KENYAN (farmer, employee, informal worker ) belong to sacco ( 14M kenyans out of adult population of 25m )....where they get loan for cheap...11%...mostly 4-6 times their saving..while earning divided.

Some of biggest Saccos include Mwalimu (Teachers), Harambee (Gov employees), Stima(Kenya Power sector), Kenya Police and Afya (Health).

Kenya Police Sacco - with 33B (330M dollars) loan book - with asset base of 400M - with membership of 63,000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kta9lunnz28