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BOT of five years That would be a steal except it only in your deranged mind.

For example

Kpone Independent Power Plant project - BOT of 20yrs.

Just30:
so you don't know that Gov't businesses can also run like private enterprise?

No wonder kenya power remain bankrupt.

Ghana Gas is a govt owned company and it can threaten to shut down gas supply for nonpayment of money.

Likewise VRA which is also a govt entity.


Ghana does not need to buy equity in any IPP

Ghana only sign IPP contracts in the power sector on a Build Operate and Transfer model.
The time frame is usually 5 years after the 5 years, the Infrastructure becomes Government owned.

Ghana only allow private players who are Ghanaian to own power plants.

Build power plants has been handed over to Volta River Authority. So it is no more an IPP

Likewise all the others.

Ameri
KarPower and the rest

Did you ever study demographics, age-sex cohorts? I really doubt. Kenya education is light years ahead of your double stream catholic funded miseducation.

Just30:
so you don't know that this - means to?


So what do they teach you guys in school?

Each is 4 years kiddo
It is not an under 5 and under 10 years stuff.

Data that you the above and under method quote above and under

So gov is threatening the gov

There is no evidence that broke Ghana gov unable to pay debt - has bought Equity in the IPPS

In total, there are nine IPPs providing electricity, including the 400-MW Bui Dam, seven thermal plants with installed capacity of 1505 MW, and the 20-MW solar plant completed by BXC Ghana, a subsidiary of China-based industrial conglomerate Beijing Fuxing Xiao-Cheng Electronic.

Just30:
we owed them pieces of monies accrued over a 4 years period
And the company's are 90% govt owned companies
Like Ghana Gas
VRA power plants
The only private plants now are
Asogli and T3

Not everything is simplistic
5-9 is not 5-9=4
It's 5 year band; under 5 (0-4), under 10 (5-9) - each is 5 year band.
What do you study in Ghana schools?

Just30:
so you want to go to year 5 to 9 which is another 4 years period and has almost 8 or 9 million people?



This is funny


Shut up with the noise and receive wisdom as I've exposed you

So you owe them 4yr debt - but somehow you managed to buy them - and yet they are still threatening to shut down power. Sounds like a bridge to nowhere. Stop lying mo.ron.

Just30:
that was for monies accrued to IPPs over a 4 years period

A total of 1.4 billion accrued over 4 years period was paid in half.

Reading data require knowledge of the data

Just paste the link hobbit...so we can read for ourselves...the miracle of economy that grew from 67B to 75B under corona

Just30:
the source is bank of Ghana and finance ministry and quoted below the chart

Now you problem is how I cropped the data?

Age-sex cohorts are 5yrs band - everyone knows that
0-4 (Under 5 yrs cohort - from 0.1 to 4.999)
0 (<1)
1
2
3
4 (<5)
The next 5 year cohort
5-9 (Under 10yrs)

Just30:
kwasia

You fool too much
O-1 that one year
1- 2 is the second year
2-3 is the third year
3- 4 is the 4th year

Where is the 5th?

Idiots and a mo*Ron


Empty head

No source.Cropped imaged. Is that projection or actual?

Just30:
Long story short check Ghana central bank data and Ghana finance ministry data and the budget.

Lying require some intelligences
2021 Feb
Ghana settled half its debt to energy producers who’d threatened to turn the lights off in the West African economy over their inability to cover operational costs.

Ghana paid $750 million in tranches over the last three months, Elikplim Apetorgbor, who heads a chamber that brings together companies responsible for close to half of the country’s peak energy demand, said by phone Wednesday.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-17/ghana-pays-half-its-debt-to-power-producers-with-750-million

Just30:
Good luck on that

The entire world knows it to be an Israeli company.

Yes, it becomes a Ghanaian company based in the US.


The only free money Ormat is taking advantage of is the one from Kenya power.
It is part of the reason why Kenya power will remain insolvent.

Ghana does not pay anyone for it 1000mw unused capacity anymore.
All those IPPs have now become the properties of the Ghanaian Gov't as there has been a transfer in ownership.

For instance, the Ghanaian Gov't have shut down the 400MW BUI power dam for 3 months which it now fully owns.
This is to grow the dam water level.

Karpower has been handed over to Ghana
Ameri is now fully owned by gov't

Can you tell the forum how 500 million which was being paid in 2016 to 19 became 1.3 billion dollars?

0-4 is 5 yrs - the rest of your nonsense is not worth a response.

Just30:
The x axis is showing 3,000,000 for male and 3,000,000 female from 0-4 years according to the graph

divide 6 million people by 4 years and see if it wouldn't be 1.5 million people per year.
So i was even generous when i quoted 1.3 million people per year

Math is not your strong area but addition, division and subtractions is for babies.
If you can't get this right, how will you even understand Interpolation, variations and calculus?

Mo*ron

Long story short.Where did you get 75B dollars. 68B dollars is what we get from IMF/WB.

Just30:
You dont know what ports have to do with economic growth?

for instance, import and export can be used to measure the level of activity in an economy.

That is why even though China suferred some economic slow down in the first 3 months of the year which led to a slow down in their import and export. But when the whole world caught the virus, economic activity in China picked up with led to an increase in export and import.

that is the same thing that happened in Ghana

First of all, Ghana GDP was 68 billion dollars in 2019.

An expansion general economic activity especially in the manufacturing sector, agriculture and an appreciation of the Cedi pushed it to 433 billion cedis.

What has port got to do with economic growth. Last I checked you ports were doing 12M metric tonnes - while kenya is heading to 40M metric tonnes.

Show us how you got 75B from last year 68B - despite corona.

All I need is growth rate (0.9%) and USD appreciation rate (year-on-year depreciated by 0.8%)

Just30:
of course the cedi Appreciated

The growth rate was a projection base on corona

Fortunately the economy performed way better than projected

Do you know what a 26% growth in Cargo handling at port means?

it means huge economic activity growth and that is why the GDP of Ghana is 433 billion cedis

No moro.n. You cannot read a simple grap. The X axis is showing 300,000 for Men and 300,000 for women...so annually it 0.6m.

Just30:
Just look at the ages of the group of people you circled and make corrections to this quote.

it means that, every year, 1.3 million Kenyans are born.
Looking at kenyan resources, it cant sustain that.
This explains the humongous levels of poverty in Kenya.

About 40 million people highly dependent on 8 million people for survival.

It not Isreali Company. It a US company. If a Ghanian formed a company in US - does it become a Ghanian company?
Ormat is new player who came to take advantage of Power Africa free money from US.
As for Ghana - that is just one of many contracts - you signed like the .idiots you're.
Take or Pay.
As we speak your grid has collapsed - meaning your cannot take - and have to PAY for idle power

You slowpoke.s are paying 1.3B dollars - the same money you make from OIL - for free AIR


The result is that the government is paying over US$500m (almost Ghana Cedis 2.5 billion) annually for power generation capacity that’s not being used.

There is also an overhang for gas. And because the government contracted gas supply on a take-or-pay basis, it must pay whether the gas is utilised or not. Thus, from 2020, if nothing changes, Ghana will face annual excess gas capacity charges of between US$550 and US$850 million yearly. This is even after the current government terminated two other liquefied natural gas contracts in 2017.
https://theconversation.com/lessons-to-be-learnt-from-ghanas-excess-electricity-shambles-121257

Just30:
So it's an Israeli company

Now that we know the ownership, can you stop making noise?

Too bad this international contract was signed with The Ghanaian courts being the place for mediation.
The contract was cancelled, 3 years ago and that has been the end of it.

Power Africa money is peanut and it was money we didn't even need.
We will list our company on the stock market and make more money.

More IPPs are even begging us to sign contracts with them so they can build their plants.
a 1000MW wind power projects was just given the go-ahead this year.

That is growth rate. Cedis didn't appreciate. That is why you economy grew by 1B to 68B.

Just30:
Good you used the word projected

That projection was made with the view that the Ghana cedi was going to depreciate by at least 6% but that did not happen

Of course. It very funny when a resident oxymoron like you attempt to sound intelligent.

Kenya demographic is forming a developed world kind of population pyramid.

1) Kenya
2) Ghana
3) Europe

Now see who is demographic transitioning into having more adults (more wealth)- and less kids (dependency ratio)

Just30:
You are such a fool

do you even understand the Chart you posted?



oh Lord have Mercy

Nope - Ormat is US company founded by Isreali. That is why it got Power Africa funds. They are minor player in Kenya power sector.

As for cancelling international contracts based on some Ghana investigation - tough luck.

International contracts are cancelled in London or such places...NOT ACCRA.

You're not only going to lose future IPP contracts, Power Africa funding but you'll pay - because nobody gives a damn about what Ghana - in international contracts.

Just30:
This fool does not know that Ormat is an Israeli company

You can try learning about the global investigation into the company for it corrupt practises.


USA gov't got pissed that we didn't allow their corrupt practices to take root in Ghana when an investigative journalist in Ghana exposed the fraud that was being committed which led to Ghana cancelling the entire transaction.

IMF projected 0.9% growth. Basically from 67B to now 68B. Get it resident Nut.job

Just30:
Who said, economic activity seized to exist during corona virus period?

There was a 26% increment in cargo handling at Ghana ports
There was a 12% growth in exports.

The cedi remain stable


Mo*ron

Like I told the 10-14 age cohort (that kids sitting for KCPE) are the highest in kenya - but since about 15yrs from now - kenyans have been getting less and less kids.

We are now getting 0.6M kids annually from more than 1M a decade ago.

Ghana can only dream about this.
https://housingfinanceafrica.org/app/uploads/Kenya-population-pyramid.jpg

Just30:
In order to know the number of children who are born per year, we can simply look at the number of children who write certification Examinations from junior high school to High school.

This is the number of children who sat for KCPE 2020 in Kenya
1,187,517

This is the number of students who sat for BECE 2020 in Ghana
531,705

Fool when did Ormat become Isrealis.
Ormat is new power plant built by USA company using Obama's Africa Power - funding from USAID.
Ghana was kicked out Power Africa - by failing to honour IPPS agreement.

Just30:
OrPower 4 is owned by Ormit
(It is also called Olkaria 3 geothermal power station)

Should I name more?

Alternate facts from the resident slowpoke. Show us how you grow your economy from 68 to 75B in corona period.

Just30:
first of all, Kenya population is 53 million.
Secondly, Ghana population is 30 million.
Thirdly, Ghana GDP is 75 billion dollars.

Ofcourse Airbnb in forests and villages in Kenya do not have AC simply because most of those villages don't have access to electricity.

Ghana fertility rate is 3.8 - and kenya is down around 3 now. That is why you're insisting that kenya population is 53m...when our census said 47m.

Just30:
Of course each household in every house is counted separately, even in villages. Ghanaian villagers don't live in huts anyway.


if you where making use of contraceptives, your country won't be having an explosion in HIV spread.
If you were making use of contraceptives, more than 1.2 million children won't be born every year in kenya.

Only 350,000 children are born in Ghana every year.

Now tell me who is giving birth like rats ?

Even when you live in villages; each household or hut will be counted seperately.

Kenya is entering a demographic transition - and we are starting to reap from our huge investment in Population Control and Family Planning.

Remember we have Sub Sahara Africa highest Contraceptive usage - more than 60% of our women are on family planning drugs.

Now what we are seeing is population coming down! The 10-14 are the largest cohort - while 5-10 are more than 0-4 - so you can see - we are 5 or 10yrs from DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSITION and our economy will BROOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile you're breeding like rats with Nigerians. All the economic growth you have is being made nonsense per capita wise by population growing on steroids.

Just30:
kwasia, so a whole village is a family er?
You fool too much .
Another excuse
Your lazy officials decided to reduce the population in slums to save face and that is how come you came up with the 48 million

Family size/Household size are generally close to be insigificant - so don't sweat it. Most people like to live as families - not strangers.

Kenya population in 2009 had issues. Somalis inflated their figures by 2m-3m - by rigging census and counting somalia somalis.
They tried to pull the Nigeria kind of Census Mess.
The Census body cancelled the figures - and but Somalis went to court - and won.
So 2009 population officially as court sanctioned was 40m - although KNBS and gov officially knew 38M was credible.

Come 2019 - strict measures were put in places and those that tried to manipulate census - were arrested.

And the figure was 47.5m.

Those using projected figures - are projecting from 2009 - 42M.

There are many ways to validate census - and in kenya we normally do a large household survey - of 100K - mid way - we did in 2016 - and that should generally check census.

Or you end up like Nigeria.

Just30:
so you were part of the fools whom your politicians bribed to reduce kenya population by 5 million?

I've done census on a few occasions and I will be part of this years own.

Mo*ron is based on family units and not houses fool.


Every house with people in it have electricity in Ghna and it include villages. The only people not connected current are people in overseas areas .

Hope you can say same for kenya, unfortunately you can't because the 70% villagers in kenya have not even seen electric poles before.

Kenya GDP now is 99B divided population of 49m - 2,020
Ghana GDP now is 68B divided by population of 32m - 2,100
The difference is not even 100 dollars...more like 80 dollars.

Kenya hotels in tropical highlands including NAIROBI do not have AC - except those along coast and in semi-arid areas.

Just30:
Ghana and which country GDP per capacity looks equal? How is 1750 and 2300 dollars an equal measurement?
I'll spare you, your math is not strong.



All hotels in kenya have ACs , don't be a fool .

I don't need to google because I have done so many survey and census.
Household is NOT Family slowpoke.
Household is a house and it's occupant.
During survey - there is normal a question asked on relationship btw Household Head and the occupant
They can say - spoue/son/daughter/relative.

For the electricity access - all we care about is to have every HOUSE with people in it - supplied with electricity.

Now 7.1M Ghanian household - how many have electricity.

Provide data with LINKS.

Isreali owning Geothermal in Kenya is the Usual Madness from you.

Our Geothermal plant is owned by KENGEN - which is own by Kenya Gov and public (30%).

I don't think there is a single Isreali owned power plant of ANY type in Kenya.

Perhaps you're confusing Kenyan-Isreali owned HYOUNG contractors - who are just building and construction - company - not involved in power plants - they just DO CIVIL WORK on power plants.

Just30:
household is counted base on family unit and not houses.
The number of members in a house is taken in total and the individual households which is the family units are counted and the total family size taken.

At the national level, they stack an average family size and then devide it by total population to makes up the household size.

Just Google Ormit

They are the owners of most of the geothermal plants in kenya and the brine your officials to keep bankrupting kenya power.

We don't generally need AC - plain simple. We have perfect temperatures.

Even tourist hotels do not have AC - AC is just unnecessary.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294207-i9695-k11971402-Air_conditioning-Nairobi.html

Kenya and Ghana GDP per capita are near equal...so they are many indicators mo.ron that we use to measure country wealth

Just30:
So now pictures measure the need for AC ?

Electricity consumption is indicator - just like many others - but every country has it unique circumstance - for example South Africa electricity is so large by even world standards - because of their minning.

They are many other indicators - that - tell the whole story.

Kenya GDP per capita and Ghana GDP per capita are now nearly equal at around 2000.

Guy you are mad.
Even SA that is in a temperate to climate zone needs AC how much more Kenya in the hot tropics?

Your people are simply poor and can't afford it and that is why you are here trying to paint a pic of not needing it.

Imagine Russia and Canada saying they don't need heating, that is how stupid you sound.


Oh so you don't know that electricity usage is one of the best measurement of wealth ?

Just check a satellite picture of North Korea and South Korea. It show the development and the growth of a society.

The first thing in census is household mapping;
Every house with people is marked.
Long before the day of census.
During census - the occupant of a house - are counted - and that become a HOUSEHOLD
Household - is a house and it's occupants - doesn't have to be a family - although most of them are families
So Household is equivalent to family.
Having average of 5 - doesn't mean some household do not have 10 kids.

You lack of education is appalling.

Now surely we have to teach your basic of everything.

Isrealis involved in our electricity sector - since WHEN ?

Our geothermal is mostly JAPANESE and drilling now by China.

Most of turbines from Mistumi/Mistubishi...some by Toyota..and also Hyudai.

Just30:
Mo*ron they will count households and not houses.
Is it that you don't know that there are houses with over 20 households living in them?

Households do not have 20 members in Ghana, they have 5 members. Father, mother and on average 3 children.


Ghana electricity access is 90% already

Go and fix you electricity mess where the Israelis are milking you guys like cow.

I still can't believe your country have been running to catch up to Ghana for 20 years and it is still far behind.

Kenya is not a secret destination like North Korea. You can go to youtube, check pictures and you'll see we don't really need AC in most of kenya - so yes our electricity consumption is low. We don't need to spend a lot of money on heating or cooling down our houses. That is GOOD thing. Obviously if you want to use electricity consumption as indicator of wealth singularly without other indicators - then you're a well a Ghanain Moro.n.

Just30:
you are a disgrace to kenya .

Do you even know what climate is?

Do you even think about 5he things you type before posting?

All the nonsense you've been spewing is just to an attempt to tell us that kenya have a minuscule electricity consumption not because of poverty where people can only afford to have 1 bedroom and one bulb in their house but because temperatures ranges from 20 to 27 degrees so they don't need big houses of their own and all the goodness of life like TV,computers, AC and etc.

He is national monument of shame. Ghana need to review it's education goals.

gallivant:
You are beyond dumb if you don't know the freezing temperature of water.

Okay any links to the data?
Mo.oron understand this - when Ghana do census - they count go to every house - and count the occupant - that become an household.
In Survey or Census - it the first question.
They go to every house with people - ask who Household Head is - and then members of that household present.
Then they do national total.
Some household have 20 members - some have single person.
On average in Ghana it come down to 4.5 person per house.
That become average Household Size of Ghana.
And we know the number of houses with humans in Ghana to be 7M.

Now 4.5+0.8+0.3 is a little over 5.7M out 7M

So if we take your data at it highest (despite the obvious lack of credibility) - Ghana electricity access is 5.7/7 that about 80% electricity access.

Just30:
nedco has over 700,000 customers and 800,000 meters distributed.

Ecg has over 4 million customers now with over 4.6 million meters distributed

Vra has over 300,000 customers with over 500,000 meters distributed in it catchment area..


Okay let's assume Ghana has 8 million households

And there are 2 households in one house, how many houses will you have ?

You're national embarrassment to Ghana. Do you even listen to yourself. Snow melt at 1 degrees - so how can temperature be 20s. Do you just like arguing for it's sake mo.oron?

Just30:
and yet temperatures at it peak during snow time is always in the 20s