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It's obvious kenya is making progress...in all spheres....and Nigeria is becoming greater mess

Lagos has 20m people - Nairobi 4m. I expect GDP to be higher for sheer size.
Ghana and Kenya are neck to neck on HDIS - kenya get dragged down by it's ASAL north.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

obaaderemi:
What GDP? Lagos GDP is larger than Nairobi's GDP.

What Hdi? So you admit Ghana is better than Kenya? See the wide gulf between Ghana's hdi and Kenya's Hdi. Can't you see your Hdi is not growing?

Precisely. Slum city versus a city with Slums.

Shma2022:
IRONY

Lagos is a slum integrated whilst Nairobi is a well-planned decent city, with slums occupying less than 10% in hidden zones.

The difference here is huge. For a city to be integrated with slums; it becomes a slum. We don't call your country a zoo for no reason.

For EXAMPLE:
You don't need a one on one encounter to convince a kid in America or cameroon that this is a slum more than a city.

For the guys of old pics:

The Nigeria of 2020 is worse than the Nigeria in 2000. So I'm basically posting a decent pic of the entire Lagos.

Don't compare sh*tholes with Nairobi.

kenya HDI says nope. Kenya GDP say nope. Name any indicator - kenya is moving forward very fast.

obaaderemi:
60% of the people living in Nairobi live in slums, in essence 60% of Nairobi's population live in 5% of the land if your claim is anything to go by.

So who occupies the better parts? Indians, white settlers and a few black Kenyans mostly corrupt politicians.

People starving in Kenya are not few. Millions of people can't be categorized as few. You're inhuman to say the least.

You got problems and they're huge, and unsolvable.

The video was 1 min less. Madness.

Just40:
you mean, it summarizes it for a small mind like yours and your type?


Simply put, over the past 10 years, your country has struggled to put up even 10,000 unit per year.... Tell us how it will manage to put up 250,000 in the next 5 years...


Make your dreams a bit believable.... You don't even have the needed cement to put it up

Kenya biggest bilateral lenders - China, Japan and France.
we got no problem with them.

AFD has helped finance many things including water and electricity - that is why we are not enslaved to darkness amid generator din - and borehole water.

French just agreed to build us expressway for 2B dollars - and get paid via toll fees.

We got no problem with France.

obaaderemi:
Did you enslave yourself to the French too by borrowing from them? Your penchant to borrow from everyone is the stuff of legend.

Again we can loop forever. My uganda colleague said you can visit Nairobi and never see a slum. Slum only occupy 5% of Nairobi built up area - and only 2.5% of land mass - hidden illegally. Your cities are SLUMPOLIS. That big difference. You have allowed you city to become one huge slums - without piped water, electricity, planning, name it.

The same with ASAL arid people living their hard lifes battling drought. Small contained problem. The same with insecuriy

We got problems - but we can easily fix them.

Nigeria you got gigantic problems all over the country. That is the big difference.

obaaderemi:
You don't have some slums in Nairobi. You have many slums in Nairobi. Africa's biggest and deadliest slums are to be found in the middle of the shithole called Nairobi. That's a shame.

And your starving population is not small. People and animals are actually dying of hunger in Kenya. It's biblical plague level starvation. Remember we've been talking of this since 2017.

Watch this video by this Oxford Phd - brain - it been reduced to moronic version for your types. It summarize kenya housing for small minds like you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moWOuRNHNYU

Just40:
do start acting crazy because the facts don't support your claim.

If it didn't, you won't have 40% of Kenyans in mud houses

As you struggle with old Tinubu - here is Ruto himself explaining 28yr track record - since joining politics as Mp of Eldoret at 30yrs - a minister by 37yrs - Deputy president at 45yrs - to become president at 55yrs.

Ruto has incredible track record of delivery - and that explains his meteoritic rise ever since he was spotted by Moi as university student.

That is why Ruto beat Raila despite all the odds stack against him because kenyans knows he delivers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUw87wJNTug

Bla de bla of resident madman

Just40:
I know you hate facts

But it will be good for you if you come to the reality... We've seen those facts here

madness

Just40:
nothing will happen my guy
Your country barely build 10,000 unit per year, let alone do 250,000

We all know the noise is where it all ends.

What is his track record.

samorobo:
Tell me something else,I have seen his track record. You are better of with that docile 80 year old than this vibrant criminal in a suit. Atleast the former still has the interest of Kenyans at heart,no offense to Ghanaian but this is another akuffo,much talking less delivering.

Ruto bring brains and hardwork. He has assembled the best policy wonks and expect kenya to zooooooooooooooooooooom beyond Nigeria reach

samorobo:
Nothing will happen,you said thesame thing about unity drunkard. Heck you would be lucky if that criminal does half of what unity did in his tenure. Like I said go pray,be prayerful asf!!! ,you voted a coon in suit.

Ruto get shiet done. You shall see soon. Jubilee 1st term was great success and everyone know when jealous Uhuru shunted Ruto we got into problems.

It's week 2 now and Ruto already done many things.

Expect to see 1 million units - and expect to see water dams all over country - all these with kenya spending ZERO.

We will increase mortgages from 30k to a million.

And the beauty we wont borrow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG4fX2nak0g

samorobo:
Nothing will happen as usual. Every one know Titi is a dirty thief. Be prayful,you voted a demon abd he is about to reign his fury on you idiot.

The people who ranked Nairobi high are mostly Europeans expats. Yes Nairobi has a long way to go - but compared to west africa - mmmh.

samorobo:
Nairobi is a slum that needs serious upgrade and has a lot of infrastructural deficits. There is no way in hell you will tell you believe such scrap is the best city in the world. Best in what exactly? In Europe a city like Nairobi would be the dreg of the continent,same would be said in northern and southern America. Let’s not even get to Asia,those ones are miles ahead.

Oga wake up and stop leaving in denial,you are so fake,even to your own self.

We have lots of problems with Brits.

samorobo:
And the Brit?
Answer that.

The housing boom about to commence in Nairobi is unprecedented. Ruto has committed to build 250,000 units annually - you can bet most will be in Nairobi. That in 5yrs will be 1 million units. THAT IS HUGE. Uhuru the drunkard was unable to pull it off. Ruto will do it.

samorobo:
21 of this just arrived Lagos yesterday get to this level and whilst at it pray for construction in Kenya.Kenya as it is is very docile and dormant(save for the completion of that hideous 88 Nairobi). The inflation is hitting harder than I thought.unlike Lagos that surprisingly continues to see a rising in the vertical residential construction (commercial spaces not doing well at the moment) and hospitality . One of these days I will be posting some of the newest kids coming into the block abd this is different from the ones I posted I think 3 months back.

I agree on Shell & Total doing Nigeria oil. Kenya is willing and ready to support you. Otherwise French Dev Bank has been our greatest partner. We have no problem at all with French people.

samorobo:
You are a fool, and f the French is controlling certain colonies then the Brit you idolize is equally doing thesame,heck I already have you a video on that, remember the one you swore not to watch so you forever live in that fake reality.

France may not have direct impact on Nigeria and Kenya because they didn’t colonize us but they are still part of the schemers and don’t mean well for Africa. Wake up from that denial idiot.

Nairobi best city in Africa, 12th globally - Business Dailyhttps://www.businessdailyafrica.com › Home › Economy
1 Dec 2021 — Expatriates have ranked Kenya's capital Nairobi the best city to work in on the continent, jumping 50 places from last year, due to ease of ...

samorobo:
And what exactly is here for us to get to ? Cabro pavements?

How does a video overcompensate? How would you say when you come to rural home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxAvcMko5g&t=90s

Just40:
you have to over compensate because you know Nairobi is a shit hole...

Keep over compensating for the zoo Nairobi

Lagos will get here - never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMO0ZP6MLWM

samorobo:
You must be very stupid to think you can talk down here n Lagos. Lagos is one of Africa’s top city whether or not you like it. If you mention africa without Lagos then sadly you haven’t started yet,you are basically beating around the bush.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw17wjiPFGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xutWS5zv47g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0DBmsHpeEc

Eti Nairobi compared to West Africa zoos! Who died?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps

How is France to blame for Nigeria problems. Granted Niger is mentioned. But Nigeria? Learn to own up your own mess and elect better leadership to fix your country. You elect a primary school dropout like Buhari - expect to remain backward for a long time.

France may be evil to their former colonies - but in Kenya they are one biggest development partners we got.

samorobo:
This should go to that mumu rvp that lives in denial thinking Europeans mean good for Africa and are bring in investment to see Africa flourish and one day get to their level. Every single action they take is to make africa remain where it is if not worse.it’s very strategic and it’s doesn’t involve africa being better. Until we address the elephant in the room we as africa will still remain in this level come 100 years.

A park in middle of slum versus a park in middle of skyscrappers. Nigeria is one huge park. A zoo.

ProblemChild1:
That's just Port Harcourt park oo, not even Abuja or Lagos

Kenya Geothermal plants in Naivasha. Kenya is now one global leaders in geothermal powers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uPOX8itZGI

Some nonsense are now worthy of rebuttal.

Just40:
noise of a guy who just lost an argument base on it merit

Says who? Not all of them are poor. Those poor are normal victim of droughts. Unlike west africa they cannot just drive their cows south and kill farmers. We dont allow that. They wait for food aid as they battle climate change.

Just40:
20% of your population is not a few

Madness 101.

Just40:
Accra is an over performer on the green city index while your Nairobi is an under performer as we've seen on the index several times.

When they talk about city green spaces, they are not referring to untouched forest that is lying somewhere outside your built limit but how the city is planned to allow biodiversity to still flourish.

That means still allowing trees and co to flourish even in the built environment.

There's a reason why Kenya is such a dirty place with people still dying from cholera

Only a slowpoke would compare kenya with Nigeria. Just because some few remote people living in kenya deserts are struggling - doesnt mean the greater majority of kenyans are suffering. Far from it. The kenyans in ASAL are few and remote. The majority kenyans are living way better lifes than you can imagine. Rural kenya is paradise compared to Nigeria - as people enjoy 24hrs of electricity, piped water, name it.

This example of rural kenya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2bayWzxc_M

Again just because they are some slums in Nairobi - doesnt mean Nairobi is a hell hole like Lagos. It isnt - which is why Expat voted it best city in Africa - way ahead of Cape town.

obaaderemi:
This doesn't call for any long debate. Like generaldae said, you are new here. AT the beginning of these threads(there was another one) I was also nearly deceived into believing Kenya was ahead of Nigeria. But these threads have opened my eyes to the facts that in spite of Nigeria's many problems, we are far better than many others. Kenya is worse than Nigeria in many aspects. Don't forget that the Kenyan society has to grapple with problems for 50 million citizens while Nigeria has to grapple with problems for about 200million very diverse populace. Where's the comparison to even start with? Yet Kenya is struggling against Nigeria here.

We've done comparisons on so many facts here, from hdi to meat and fish consumption, to number of doctors to 1000 citizens, to road network, to banking, to education, to foreign Remmitances, personal computers to 1000 people, to number of vehicles to 1000 citizens, etc. Even slums. Kenya is not doing well and in most cases is worse.

But I know people like you who feed fat on digging out Nigeria's bad side and never seeing anything good in Nigeria. We used to have a couple of your type here, one suffering and smiling guy and one obikeno-something liar of a guy. They kind of fizzled out.

I am already talking too much.
You posted a picture of some children under a tree studying, you didn't see the pictures of those in proper classes in government schools across Nigeria. Kontinue. Like I said, we know your type.

Meanwhile, the attached pictures are from Kenya. Show me such deprivations in Nigeria and I'll let you be.

Note: I am not mocking the poor Kenyans in the picture, Osaremein or whatever your name is, I just want you to see that picture and thank God for your blessings. If you are an economic refugee like you said, at least your old folks are still in rural Nigeria and I don't think they're anything like the people in those pictures.

Karura forest is mostly within westland district. Ngong forest in Karen-Lagata.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ESKShJwZ3Q

Nairobi boast the world only national park. It also host one city biggest forest of any city.

This is Karura forest in middle of nairobi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq5hztSPjDQ

Just40:
we said parks and you're already mentioning forest that have nothing recreational...

See Kumasi Rattary Park it has a lot of fun activities for kids every weekend.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajcqSqcbjC8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgYtTNOCd_8